The minimum S/S payment is $849/mo. The average for a person retiring at 70 is $1,649.

You're probably right, but Republicans tried to privatize it and Democrats called them greedy and said they "hate old people". If you had paid in the same amount of money to a 401k over your career, you would have several times the income in retirement. But for Democrats it's never about doing what's right, it's about having control over you.

No, you would have been neck deep down shit's creek in 2008 and most likely now dead because old people don't last as long living out of refrigerator boxes.

No, it’s about giving money to those who need it. If you’re making thousands of dollars per day, you don’t need it, versus if you’re making just a hundred a day, you need it.

Maybe not. But it often seems that way.

But for Democrats it's never about doing what's right, it's about having control over you."

That's not true, says the fool controlled by Democrats.

At least the fools does not disagree that they are stealing money from him, yet the fool goes at and defends the people he knows are stealing money from him by pointing fingers at the other party. ROFL.

Controlled by Democrats? Hah, as if. We don’t blindly follow what Biden says without question. You guys do that with trump.

Really? Most of the things Trump says is censored anyway. It's called common sense, which most Democrats don't have.

Yes it is.

My step mom literally was in her last week of work, died at gas station checking tire pressure on the way to her job (literally days from full retirement - had filed paperwork).

They tossed my dad 300 I think? For her SS payments. She would have had two payments a month of 700. Paid her whole life - worked fully - and Government gave my retired Army Veteran Dad 300 bucks.

Geez, I’m sorry....

Thanks - Government is going to government.

People need to wake up. The moment you are born on this soil & recorded - or migrate & given a SSN, you're signed up to forced labor to the United States Government. Any wages you get - anything at all, you owe Uncle Sam.

This entire country is enslaved to the government & everyone is just fine with that,

Maybe neither should be happening

Republicans do, as they've been illegally pulling money out of Social Security to make up for wasteful spending in other areas.

Social security and pensions are what's wrong with this economy, literally. When ever someone mentions the national debt, they think "China", but 70% of American debt is owed to .......Americans, for retirement. Even the majority of bailouts are for pensions. And ss is a massive scam , put in place after the depression, in the "new deal". They were going to vote all the politicians out for poor mismanagement, so they bought them off with retirement paid for by future generations. (6% a year for 40 years is still only about 2 1/2 years wages, even with interest). The retirement concept is flawed.
The retired and infirm should stay with relatives or friends. Like in so many other countries. Instead we give a golden year delusion of independent living.
Socialism starts at home

I got my retirement - screw everyone else!

Typical armchair opponents of helping people who can't find a job.

I think that raising the minimum wage to $15 will do quite the opposite, make jobs harder to find.

You are correct sir.

History shows that this is never the case. Quite the opposite. People think only one step into the process. I have to pay more, so I have to hire less. However, laws of supply and demand answer this.

If it were only a few companies required to pay higher wages, then it would destroy jobs. However, with higher minimum wage you will have more money in the hands of the people who are then more likely to be able to spend that money. Non essentials will have a higher demand. With people spending more, there will be an increase in demand for workers. 15 dollars an hour was chosen with calculated reasoning, too, as 15 dollars an hour is around where this effect starts to curve towards a downward trend (paying too much with not enough non-luxury non-essentials to compensate for the increase in pay).

This is what trickle down economy is supposed to look like. People having enough money available to them to make purchases. If money is flowing in a circle, quality of life increases.

Do you think that the collective boards of directors and shareholders will lower their profits just to pay their employees $15 an hour OR do you think that they'll just raise prices and keep their bottom line the same?

I think the latter and, in that scenario, the middle class will get screwed more than anyone else. The poor will be OK because they're used to being poor, yes, they're income went up but so did prices, so it's a wash. The rich will be OK because they're rich. The middle class, however, will see double digit inflation with no pay increase. I know my boss won't give me a raise just because minimum wage workers got a raise.

Neither. If prices stay the same, supply will increase to accommodate.

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Totally agree. Currently a basic recruit in the military make only $1,680.90 per month. Raise the minimum wage to $15 then you'd damn well raise military wages across the board. Otherwise, no one will volunteer for Biden's wars when they can make way more flipping burgers. What happens then? Welcome to the draft.

They need $15 an hour. And $1400 stimulus. Because the f**ker jacked up gas prices and increased food cost will be an inevitable consequence.

And then the business need more money. Then a domino that has already started will destroy the economy

Good question

Answering your question: because 2+2 *******could******* equal 5, you bigot!

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There are people and families in other countries that barely make a few bucks an hour let alone in one day. And here people are complaining that we need minimum wage and to raise payments for flipping burgers. How about minimum wage payments to impoverish people in other countries? I thought democrats loved giving money to those who really need it.

Because it's not the government that's paying it. Government wants to force private businesses to pay more to their employees, and acts shocked when businesses close and/or reduce their workforce because of the extra expenses (like krogers in the cities that mandated an extra 4$ an hour above what workers were already being paid, which was probably minimum wage for most).

"which was probably minimum wage for most" - actually not. I can't speak for California, but in Colorado all of the grocery store workers are union, making way more than minimum.

The workers in california are unionized, but they barely (like 10¢) make more than minimum wage. However, the minimum wage in California is rather high to begin with, and many cities have set even higher minimums. A change in federal to $15 would have no effect in most of California.

businesses pay low wages and no benefits so the people making $7 an hour and working 40 hours a week are on Federal Food stamps and Medicaid- guess who pays that?

When they raised the minimum wage in Washington, a lot of workers asked their employers to give them less hours because their income would be too high and they would no longer be eligible for welfare checks.

Considering that many businesses don't pay a decent wage and leave the employee to rely on tips...

And they make more money from tips than if they made a “decent” wage without tips.

And they don't pay taxes on the cash tips if they can get away with it.

But, if they make less than what the IRS assumes they get (it used to be around 9% of the bill, but I think it's around 15% now), it doesn't matter. They pay taxes on it anyway.

Only if they have to. That’s why I always pay with a CC and include the tip on the card so they can’t “forget” to declare it.

Not on average.

That’s not what I’ve heard from people in the service industries. Of course they’d like to get a decent wage with tips but if they had to choose between a set, “decent” wage without tips vs a lower wage with tips, most of them would choose tips.

Aren't we already giving them millions in foreign aid?

Because people in other countries can't vote for benefactors, yet.

I started at 4.25/hrs worked my way up to get better pay. My wages don't go up when they increase minimum wage. They go up when I prove myself for better pay. There are going to be people who worked their way up to above 15 in a difficult field of work, like construction, and leave to flip burgers.

I got paid less than minimum wage at my first job (something to do with it being a family owned business). But I wasn’t planning to make a career from that job. Just needed the experience so I could move on to a better job.

People whining about only being paid minimum wage need to look at their career choice. If your employer can fill your position for minimum wage, it means you can be easily replaced.

I smell social darwinism. How disgusting

No, we live in an oligarchy with welfare for the rich.

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If I read that correctly as $4.25 an hour, that's slave labour.

Yes, back in the 1900s lol
1994

Yup