What some guys won't do.

The liberal solution to everything . . . Remove freedom

Nice try MnMinPhx. Appears at least one didn't quite get it. LOL

Yes, especially when they are looking for an argument.

Because both are common things.knife he bought is either for cooking or fruit cutting. That are common everywhere you go. And pepper spray is a protective item that can be used to get opportunity to run and it's not soo fatal for body. And here someone ask why they are available to public.

Are you sure he ask why they are available to public?
Ingredients to make certain bombs, that are common everywhere you go.

I was being sarcastic but since you brought it up:
Guns are also common things. They can be used for hunting or signaling. They are also protective items and some are not fatal for body (taser, paint ball).

Oh, sry. I'm kind of dense with sarcasm :p

And here I thought you also supports gun ban. Lel I'm kinda dense with sarcasm that are perfect like that. I thought you mean it

Believe it or not, pepper spray is illegal in many countries in Europe, because "Otherwise the bad guys would just buy it and use it against their victims!" Same goes for anything bigger than a Swiss Army knife.

(Of course the bad guys still have knives, guns, pepper spray, etc...)

Did she do it with an ar15 with a bump stock and modified magazinne?

Careful! Don't be getting arthritis in your trigger finger!
:)

Thanks man.

It doesn't matter what she used.

If she did, that guy's not gettin' up.

Never hide in fear!

I think Pepper spray would be more lethal

Strawman much?

No.

Then how come he thinks that gun control advocates want to ban guns?

Because that's what they want?

If you disagree with him, say so. Don't make a blanket accusation about "strawman".

I agree that gun control isn't the right solution, but I think that to accuse gun control advocates of all wanting to take away every citizen's guns and abolish the 2nd Amendment is a strawman argument.

There are people like laonsite that actually do seem to want to abolish the 2nd Amendment, but most of them want what they call "reasonable restrictions" on gun purchases. While these are restrictive and may infringe on our 2nd Amendment constitutional rights, they don't actively abolish it or take away every honest citizen's guns.

In the end, I find that strawman arguments tend to alienate the other side and convince them of their intellectual and moral superiority when we should be discussing the issue reasonably and without logical fallacies like reasonable, responsible adults.

Criminals don't follow "reasonable restrictions."
Only law abiding citizens would be affected by them.

Did you even read my comment? I explicitly stated I DO NOT SUPPORT GUN CONTROL. I completely 100% agree with that statement, thus the quotation marks on "reasonable restrictions".

Great. Since you don't support gun control, you are one of us that knows the Left will chip away at our rights over time with their ultimate intent being to "abolish or take away every honest citizen's guns" with all their "reasonable restrictions" (most of which are already in place).

XD

Where'd you get that meme from?

Stopping child molesters, one bullet a time!

and for American freedom, 30,000 Americans get the ultimate freedom every year, death by guns shots. Go USA!

There are 325 MILLION Americans...

that is .001 % of the Population

and 20,000 of those 30,000 were Suicide, many not remotely their 1st attempt

Medical Malpractice Kills over 200,000 people a Year
Drunk Driving kills 11,000 a Year
Distracted driving Kills 3,200

But guns are the topic in the meme and the left love to bring up the "at-the-surface" scary number of 30,000 gun deaths per year, ignoring the fact that 20-22 thousand of those deaths were not murders by guns. Take away suicides, then take away cops killing criminals and you get a more realistic number or about 5,000 to 8,000 per year.

In Chicago alone, the number of homicides where guns are involved is 500-700 per year. And Chicago has some of the most strict gun laws in the country.

Another misdirection by the left on gun deaths is that Texas (being one of the most gun-friendly states in the country), with a high death rate where guns are involved is due mainly to the fact that Texas has a high suicide rate, state-wide.

"More than 100,000 people in America are shot in murders, assaults, suicides & suicide attempts, accidents, or by police intervention. 31,537 people die from gun violence: 11,583 people are murdered. 18,783 people kill themselves."

This was taken from the FBI statistics website. These numbers are the average and 2016 was the worst year.

60% of all gun deaths are from suicides.
37% are murdered.

In 2016 there were 762 homicides using guns.

Oops, that was supposed to be 762 homicides in Chicago alone in 2016 using guns.

https://imgflip.com/i/2d8q5f

Just thought I'd leave this here... lol

You're not supposed to make sense of it, your supposed to be relieved at the figures and ignore mass shootings in schools and work places because it happens in every developed country. (It doesn't)

Where no one has a gun.

I didn't realise that Chicago was its own separate country, with its own borders and checks on every vehicle entering the city. No way anyone could bring guns into that City, Trump's new border polices sure are working!

That's a stupid argument as to why Chicago has so many homicides using guns. No one who obeys the laws, whether they're good laws or bad laws, are going to break those laws. Only the bad guys disregard the laws. So the bad guys get the guns and the good guys are left shitting their pants when confronted by them because they have no way of protecting themselves.

It's sad you live in a country where you need guns to protect yourself and people die in the crossfire, or from an unhappy student, or a disgruntled employee or just going to a movie theatre or a concert in Las Vegas or.....

If you need guns to protect yourself, then there is something wrong with your society.

If there's something wrong with your society, you need guns to protect yourself.

Ftfy. Welcome to planet earth. We have bad people here, and we believe the good people have a right to be on equal ground if they ever have to defend themselves.

No... the Topic at Hand is THINGS That Kill people... If You are Really arguing that Lives must be Saved... Then you start with the THING that kills the most people... but 'the left' isn't talking about Saving lives, they are talking about Saving guns...

Taking Guns away from Law Abiding Citizens will save no more lives than castrating gay men to prevent the rape of Women (They never had any intent to use the 'weapon' in that manner in the first place.)

I said no such thing...

If Doctor X Kills someone due to incompetence what good is Taking Away Doctor Y's Medical License?

If Billy hits a Pedestrian driving home from the Bar, what good is putting a Breathalyzer on Susie's steering column?

Again, by your logic...

Again, by your logic ... licenses are useless*

Where are you Getting that, and why are you repeating yourself...

I clearly Posit that if Person A F**ks up; Person B should Not be Punished? at No Point have I said word one about 'paper work' being USELESS

Prevention is not punishement

- unless you know you're going to do something wrong.

Billy is the Criminal, Susie is a Car Owner... To make Susie blow a Breathalyzer Every time she wants to Drive is Presuming that she has a Drinking Problem... How is presumption of Guilt, when she has yet to do anything wrong, NOT 'punishment'...

Lets say ImgFlip decides they have a Troll Problem... We try to log in tomorrow and are greeted with a 10 question 'Psych Eval' to determine if we fit the 'Troll Profile' (Trollfile?)

Should Everyone have to take the test every time we log in?

or should it be reserved for people who've generated Legitimate complaints?

or is such a Test an a straight up invasion of privacy and an barrier to enjoyment that we all come here to engage in?

K, so go practice medicine and drive a car without a license *shrugs shoulders*

About 20-22 thousand. You're welcome.