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California | AT LEAST CALIFORNIA WILL PROTECT YOUR RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHETHER OR NOT YOU GET A STRAW | image tagged in california,straw,aids,laws,stupid liberals,you can't fix stupid | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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15 ups, 3 replies
California caters to people like Jim Carey. Assholes that pretend to be good.

They give people stds, hire prostitutes, treat the people closest to them like shit, and do illegal drugs BUT they care about their carbon footprint and people they'll never have to meet. Fantastic fellas.
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"Do as I say, not as I do"
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4 ups, 1 reply
California sounds lit.
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So lit it's burning.
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Just glad no conservatives would ever do anything like that. Nope, no conservatives are ever hypocrites. Thank goodness.
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THE OTHER SIDE DOES THE SAME THING SEE? DOESN'T MAGICALLY MAKE IT RIGHT | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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True, but I do point out hypocrisy on both sides.
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Our AIDS won’t kill us nearly as fast as our meth & we feel no pain on the way!
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And yes, it is a felony where I live. If you want to know where that is, you can do the research and figure out where that is.
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8 ups
Holy crap that place is getting messed up :-O
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I knew California was WAY over rated!
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I posted the full article below in the "low rated comments area to settle the disagreement. It's a good read for anyone interested.
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The freeways are jammed up (probably because illegals can get drivers licence) yet caltrans doesn't care and installs toll lanes to let the rich escape the traffic. It's disgusting we even let this happen.
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5 ups, 2 replies
No. If California does that, then all the car lobbyists will be doomed. Think of what would happen to the economy if public transportation were spread to America as if it were Japan!
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5 ups, 1 reply
US is too large, with to many distinct city styles, for a Uniform Public Transit System to take off nation wide
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I have to agree with Tijuana_Slim there, the United States is too big. Installing high speed rail is a safety hazard as our tracks are not made to accommodate high speed rail. It could hurt already established farmland.
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Upgrade tracks?
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Is your entire existence being envious of other nations and wishing we had what they did? Have you ever considered what we have that they don't? I don't think I've ever heard you post something that seemed "content" with your home.
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"Is your entire existence being envious of other nations and wishing we had what they did?"

Not entirely.. some of Europe doesn't allow gay marriage, particularly Russia.

"Have you ever considered what we have that they don't?"

...fake cheese sauce?

"I don't think I've ever heard you post something that seemed "content" with your home."

I don't think you have read all of my memes or comments.
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3 ups, 1 reply
Umm... gun rights, lots of space (that isn't frigid like Russia's), freedom of speech and freedom of expression. I get where you're coming from, an I like you, Myrian, but we actually have a lot of good things that other nations don't. Of course, we also have a lot of bad things like religious fundamentalist nutcases and fake cheese sauce, but we're still better off than about half of the world, and better off than all of the world if you're counting every good thing we have that they don't but aren't counting every good thing they have that we don't (although in a lot of the world, like Europe and some parts of Asia and Africa (not Aussie 'cos everything's trying to kill you there), it would even out if we used the first method).

I understand that you're dissatisfied with a lot of aspects of American life and want to make it a better place, but, well, we have awesome stuff too!
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Fair enough. We do have lots of space and freedom of speech; I'll give you that. I'm also glad that America doesn't have Brexit (not that it will ever have a Brexit because A: it's not Britain, and B: America is not part of the EU; the closest we have to a Brexit is a Calexit).
I just find myself skeptical when people think America is great without realizing how good other countries are too. Particularly I strike at America's Public Transportation system (its weakness) because of how America desperately need it, particularly because a lot of issues involving poverty could be solved with public transportation.
While it does sound difficult to have high speed rail in America, it's still possible. In California, Florida, Texas, and between Washington DC and Boston, projects are being done to create high speed rail between the major cities. If we can create networks between major cities, then have networks between networks, then America would truly have a high speed rail system.

And yes, while I am dissatisfied with some American life, I will admit: dank memes don't reach as far as Europe often. ;)
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Haha. My comment was hidden, then visible, now it's hidden again :)
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Oh wow...
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lol, I noticed, I almost couldn't find it again :)
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And ppl on here defend this sick crap. smh
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I've been to California and the towns I went were a little weird. Not that I'm into any occult thing but I noticed lots of esoteric symbolism. But im sure not all of CA is like that :) (sorry, a bit off topic)
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Legitimately curious. Like what?

Makes me think of the old movie The Lost Boys. Or the Tom Petty lyric "Vampires living in the valley... "
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Define "knowingly exposing others to HIV". Perhaps the way the law was originally worded was problematic. For example, if someone with HIV gets a cut and doesn't immediately tell everyone within earshot that they have it, does that qualify as "knowingly exposing others"? Should they be charged with a felony?

I don't know anyone who thinks it's okay for someone with HIV/AIDS to knowingly expose a sexual partner to the disease. I'm sure the law is mainly focused on those people. But how exactly is it worded?

Use your brain. Think about these things. Don't just read a headline and think that that's the entire story.
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What the f**k do you mean define it? It's plain f**king English. While you're at it, try to throw people of by asking them to define what "is" is B.J. Clinton. And if you were to lazy to actually read the article, the law downgraded already illegal acts such as having unprotected sex while knowingly being infected without disclosing it, or donating blood and lying about being HIV positive from felonies to misdemeanors.
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"What the f**k do you mean define it? It's plain f**king English."

The whole point of writing laws is to clearly outline what is illegal and what is not. You can't say something is illegal without defining what you're talking about. Not everything is "plain f**king English". That's why there are different laws for different things. Murder versus manslaughter. Auto theft versus joyriding, etc. you can't just say "killing is illegal", because that would include things like self defense. Why is it so hard for you to understand that terms need to be defined?

Having unprotected sex without disclosing HIV positive status and donating blood without revealing the same should be felonies, in my opinion. If someone says they should be downgraded to misdemeanors, I would disagree with that.
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I found this for you, Personally I'd have left a comment or snippet in the comments of the meme for others, but its easily searched. Pretty f'd up of them imho.
Gov. Jerry Brown signed a bill Friday that lowers from a felony to a misdemeanor the crime of knowingly exposing a sexual partner to HIV without disclosing the infection.
The measure also applies to those who give blood without telling the blood bank that they are HIV-positive.
Modern medicine allows those with HIV to live longer lives and nearly eliminates the possibility of transmission, according to state Sen. Scott Wiener (D-San Francisco) and Assemblyman Todd Gloria (D-San Diego), authors of the bill.

“Today California took a major step toward treating HIV as a public health issue, instead of treating people living with HIV as criminals,” Wiener said in a statement. “HIV should be treated like all other serious infectious diseases, and that’s what SB 239 does.”
Supporters of the change said the current law requires an intent to transmit HIV to justify a felony, but others noted cases have been prosecuted where there was no physical contact, so there was an argument intent was lacking.
Brown declined to comment on his action.
HIV has been the only communicable disease for which exposure is a felony under California law. The current law, Wiener argued, may convince people not to be tested for HIV, because without a test they cannot be charged with a felony if they expose a partner to the infection.
“We are going to end new HIV infections, and we will do so not by threatening people with state prison time, but rather by getting people to test and providing them access to care,” Wiener said.
Supporters of the bill said women engaging in prostitution are disproportionately targeted with criminal charges, even in cases where the infection is not transmitted.
Republican lawmakers including Sen. Joel Anderson of Alpine voted against the bill, arguing it puts the public at risk.
“I’m of the mind that if you purposefully inflict another with a disease that alters their lifestyle the rest of their life, puts them on a regimen of medications to maintain any kind of normalcy, it should be a felony,” Anderson said during the floor debate. “It’s absolutely crazy to me that we should go light on this.”
Anderson said the answer could be to extend tougher penalties to those who expose others to other infectious diseases
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Thank you for posting this.

"Pretty f'd up of them imho."

I absolutely agree. Scott Wiener has it totally wrong. People with HIV are not being treated as criminals. People with HIV who knowingly and callously put the health and safety of others at risk are criminals. The claim that people won't get tested because they don't want to be charged with a felony if they knowingly expose others to the disease is asinine. That's like saying "I don't want to spend a lot of money on car repairs, so I'll just ignore the red engine light on my dash". I don't know anyone so stupid, they're more worried about a potential criminal charge than finding out whether or not they have HIV.
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What I find interesting is the law is only for hiv and not like aids or hep c
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5 ups, 1 reply
No, I don't
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"But HIV is a virus, and syphilis and gonorrhea are spread by bacteria. Also, hasn't AIDS been traced to a similar simian virus from Africa?"

Hence the antibiotic resistance. Antibiotics don't work on viruses, that and a lack of a cellular wall is why some scientists don't regard them as living creatures. But they feed and replicate, so, um......

The notion goes is that that bacterium congregates around the central nervous system, and is this hard to detect unless specifically sought and with much effort, so just gets misdiagnosed.
That theory seems a bit flimsy tho.

The similar simian virus doesn't have the same symptoms, is not deadly. Doesn't mean it can't be with humans, but doesn't mean it's the right pathogen either.

Another thing was with the Sacroma, it was not just chiefly seen with men of a homosexual nature, but on their upper arms and face, and might actually be the result of spray from poppers...
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Viruses are very interesting because they're basically on the borderline between living and nonliving. They have their own genetic material, but they don't metabolize and they can't reproduce on their own. They have to use the machinery of other microbes in order to make copies of themselves.

Similar diseases with very different symptoms is not unheard of. Take cowpox and smallpox for example. They are similar, and in fact the first smallpox vaccine came from cowpox (that's where the word vaccine comes from = vaca meams cow), yet smallpox is deadly and cowpox isn't.
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Interesting, I learned some new stuff. Sadly, I'm so brain dead I'll likely forget. I've made copies of things in the past, but never look at them again, so...

Then there's prions.... all I can recall is that they only have RNA, but otherwise make viruses look positively bubbly.

There's other things that seem like life, but have no genetic material or whatever else that we know life to have. A slime that forms on some rocks out in the Utah desert is the only one I heard of. No known chemical reaction can explain it, but while it seems like possibly a function of life or living material itself, nothing can identify it as such in terms of accepted understandings of...
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That's neat, I'll have to look into prions.
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You can't get AIDS without having HIV first. Getting AIDS is like the tipping point when you can't do anything about it anymore, it's when the HIV virus has taken over too much of your body. HIV can't be cured (with the exception of "The Berlin Patient", but people take medication to keep it in check, so that it doesn't become AIDS.
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Actually you can, or rather, there are people diagnosed with AIDS who consistently test negative for HIV - not just the antibodies, but HIV itself.
Granted, the tech improves and who knows how accurate that curiosity still is, but it's the only pathogen recognized by the CDC to cause a disease without it being found in all stricken ill by it or with no direct evidence of how it causes it.

Curiously, apparantly all with AIDS do all have herpes, which is believed to be a vector through which HIV is contracted (ie through herpes sores). It has also been suggested that herpes in conjunction with another disease is the real cause of AIDS.
There was some germ discovered by French scientists in the early 90s that all with AIDS also have, but it seemed too harmless to cause damage, so was dismissed. Then again, HIV is also exceedingly weak itself.

There is also a rush to diagnose as AIDS what may be just an umbrella of unrelated illnesses lumped together. AIDS in Africa manifests itself differently from here, with some types, such as sleepy and skinny sicknesses, old diseases known long before AIDS yet now classed as a symptom of it.
In addition, in the early days when it was the so-called 'gay disease' it was known for a severe type of pneumonia and Sarcoma cancer, yet those afflications are uncommon with others, incl women and heterosexual males.
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Oh, I didn't know that! Thank you for clarifying!
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Sorry, I get long winded sometimes.

There was also an antibiotic resistant form of gonorrhea (or as it syphilis?) infecting prostitutes around American Army bases in the Phillippines in the early 80s. There were worries of it being brought to the US. But then AIDS took off, and the disease wasn't heard of again.
Some say THAT is AIDS, resistant to meds, and patients exibiting similar symptoms.
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Oh ok
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But HIV is a virus, and syphilis and gonorrhea are spread by bacteria. Also, hasn't AIDS been traced to a similar simian virus from Africa?
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You're such a pleasant person.
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Props.
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Octavia is a pothead from Cali, of course he is going to play dumb. Can't teach a rock to think.
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Show me a screenshot of a comment where I've said I smoke pot, otherwise shut the f**k up. You're a pathetic little troll who goes around saying I'm a pothead with no evidence whatsoever, and despite my constant correction of your false statements. Grow some balls and get a life, you loser.
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"Fauscovai
But aint all europeans also Africant descendants? Doesn't the origins of humanity (home erectus) traces to Africa?"

You can't even spell. And think? Not exactly happening. Idiot.
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