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Question Rage Face Meme | WHEN DID WANTING OUR IMIGRATION LAWS ENFORCED BECOME AN EXTREME POSITION? | image tagged in memes,question rage face | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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13 ups, 1 reply
Matrix Morpheus Meme | WHAT IF I TOLD YOU THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LEGAL AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION | image tagged in memes,matrix morpheus | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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7 ups, 1 reply
Have have a feeling a lot of people would just ignore you
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5 ups
That's the problem.
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10 ups, 1 reply
SHOPPERS IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE, OR THE ANALOGY, IT'S JUST BECAUSE YOUR BRAIN IS RETARDED LEGAL ILLEGAL | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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7 ups, 2 replies
Well if we would just give everyone food for free, people wouldn't have to steal it and there wouldn't be any illegal shoppers... Duh... </sarcasm>
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6 ups
X All The Y Meme | LEGALISE ALL THE ILLEGALISMS #NEWSOCIALISM | image tagged in memes,x all the y | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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2 ups, 1 reply
Well the problem with that is that we live on a planet with limited resources, a me they are running low fast...
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1 up, 1 reply
I agree, I was being sarcastic. I'm sorry to hear that resources are running low for you, I will pray for you.
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1 up
I am talking at a global level. Pray for everyone.
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8 ups
The minute the leftists realized they could get votes from illegals
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6 ups
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4 ups, 1 reply
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3 ups
Not our English grammar. But that's a lost cause honestly.
(Barely related rant: Seriously, my spell check often changes things back to the wrong thing after I fix it. It keeps changing their back to there after I changed it from there to their. I wonder if that sentence will even be right once I hit post comment. Damn cheap Android phone, anyways...)
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3 ups
Ikr
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3 ups
I found this old propaganda film from 1947 that touches on the subject. https://archive.org/details/DontBeaS1947
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4 ups, 7 replies
Theres following the law and then theres separating families as if they were in a KZ (German slang for Concentration Camps)

While I agree for contries such as the US who have borders with relatively unstable neighbours to have a border control and to inspect immigrants who come into the country.

It is quite frankly ridicules that no one be allowed to stay. And that 'Illegal Immigrants' may not get a chance to legalize their status. But perhaps you are right and perhaps 0 immigrants per year is a great idea. What about the reason why people are leaving their country and entering America Illegally. What incentive do those people have for doing that.

Perhaps combating the incentive to leave their homeland and travel illegally to America for a better life would be a better way to deal with it than harsher immigration laws, which are already quite frankly ridiculously difficult.
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5 ups, 1 reply
U.S. children are separated from there parents regularly for things like "not having a proper bed" even though they have a safe place to sleep. But being homeless and dragging your child through the dessert, "how dare you separate them!"
And no one is suggesting harsher laws.They are recommending enforcement of existing laws I, personally, am in favor of more lenient immigration laws (but not open borders) but only when I have faith that the laws will actually be enforced. There is no point in changing the laws if they are just going to be ignored by those responsible for seeing they are enforced.
And no one is suggesting 0 immigrants.
Two of the arguements you are arguing against (harsher laws and zero imigrants) were never made. Do you know what it's called when instead countering the arguement that was made (enforcement of existing laws) you make up a different arguement (harsher laws and zero immigrants) and argue against it? That is the very definition of a straw man arguement.
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Huh, interesting... However that zero immigrant was just meant as an extreme example. Also, I'm not saying open your borders, I'm trying to point out why people would rather travel to the US illegally than go through the immigration process. But that was probably miscommunicated.
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6 ups, 1 reply
WHY aren't they doing it LEGALLY??? There are millions of LEGAL immigrants coming into the USA annually and they are following the process and gaining their citizenship. If it were easy... criminals and undesirable people would be able to hide their identity and get legal papers and avoid law enforcement, so the immigration laws have to be stringent in order to weed out the criminals. Ergo that's probably the main reason these illegals are crossing the border ILLEGALLY because they are criminals or have something in their background that would prevent them for legally obtaining papers in the first place sooo... we don't want them!

Now as far as the separations are concerned what do you propose? I know that if I were doing something ILLEGAL I wouldn't put my child in harms way in the first place and I sure wouldn't want to bring them with me to jail when caught either sooo separations are a necessity no?

"come on little miguel let's go somewhere where things may be better for us but if we're caught we will go to jail. Oh no we're caught so let's all live in one jail cell together till they send us home month's from now"

Doesn't sound to me like awesome parenting and the greatest upbringing to me!

If people did things the right way there wouldn't be a need to separate anyone and they'd be welcomed with open arms!

By the way I am a child of immigrants who went and did things the right way.
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1 up, 4 replies
Look, I'm not gonna lie, I don't really know my way around the American Immigration system. I don't even live on the same bloody Continent! I even live in a country where there is ni such thing as a 'Border Patrol' because of the European Union wide free travel treaty or whatever its called. Borders are literally imaginary lines whuch anyone can cross no nothing needed.

Anyway, What I mean to say is that you should have a border (Especially if you have a neighbour like Mexico) and it should be patroled. Immigrants should try to get into the US legally, but (As my Uncle can testify) it can take years before one completes the first steps of immigration to the US. And in the meantime Amigo Mafia aint waiting for that extortion money. The reason why peopel cross illegally is because that they'd rather spend a month in an American prison and be able to try again later than Staying in Towno Escablo with your not so friendly neighbourhood drug dealer waiting for his money. People just think its worth it.

As for family separation: Just don't. Its cruel and inhumane. Just keep the family together in the same prison atleast. And if I'd cross the border illegally I would bring my child with me rather than leave them alone... in mexico... with the criminals I'm trying to escape.

However, I wouldn't bring them with me if I were robbing a bank.

Hey, we too have people we dont want *Caugh* Neo-Nazis *Cough* and they're not even immigrants! But to outright refuse to help anyone fleeing conflicts and entering illegally is just inhumane. I say give em' a chance. If they f**k up, back to syria. If they dont, well "hallo Nachbara Wie gehts!"

You know what, I'm too tired and I just cant. Not even my problem since I live in Europe. So never see ya!
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5 ups, 1 reply
Trust me here in the states we see what all that open border free reign trouble that’s going on over there is causing! Here’s the whole problem in nut shell and it’s what the left refuses to address that it even exsists, for too long the USA has had too soft a stance on immigration and government assistance and that is what makes it so a appealing to immigrants. Statistically more illegals try crossing the border from other counties than Mexico and why because they get free handouts on the tax payers dime. I don’t fault anyone for trying to escape war or tyranny I would do the same but why would I traverse 4 or 5 countries and risk life and limb and my families life and limb when logically I can stop at the first country that would grant me asylum but that’s not the case they try to come here. I was born and raised in the state I live in, I’ve had to work hard for everything I have and I’ve never received a handout from this government even when I was down on my luck and jobless many years ago I tried to get assistance but because I was living with a relative they flat out told me that I was making too much money for help... I was jobless how does that compute? But had I been an illegal I would have gotten healthcare and benefits and free college. I’m not gonna sit here and cry foul or whine about fairness that the lefts job. Lol but to my understanding a country and it’s govenment at least a democratic one is supposed to take care of its citizens first above all others and so now the USA is doing that and it’s unpopular... to enforce the laws that have been on the books for decades shouldn’t be causing this much strife! The illegals want the handouts, the left wants their votes for giving them the handouts, the tax payers want relief and the laws enforced, the media wants a juicy controversial story to spin out of control and in the end the only one that gets screwed is the American citizen.
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1 up, 3 replies
Look lad, I'm not suggesting that your government bend over backwards for illegal immigrants. However you must realize that you are not on equal footing with illegal immigrants. It is common sense that a person who can't speak english very well nor has a very good education form where they come from that they be glossed over in favour if a Native. Essentially, they're coming out of a swimming pool and need a little help in standing up.

However I agree that an American citizen would be disgruntled that tge taxes they pay may go wasted on something they don't need, but if you talk about something you dont need then you should get your Military, I'm pretty sure that money could be better spent elswhere.

Anyway, this is Europe not America. You do what you Americans do best! Which is... Americaneering?
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2 ups
"It is common sense that a person who can't speak english very well nor has a very good education form where they come from that they be glossed over in favour if a Native."

Actually, in many jobs immigrants are hired preferentially. I was once denied a job (at a jack in the box across the street from the college I was going to) because I didn't speak Spanish (they told me this at the interview). At first this didn't bother me because I assumed they meant they wanted someone bilingual. Nope, week later I tried to order food there and the lady behind the counter could not speak a word of English, not even the items on the menu. (This is merely the most obvious example I have experienced. There are others)
So no, being a "native" confers no preference.
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2 ups
Yeah stay in Europe business and don't preach what you don't know. Ain't Europe already has many issues going? What's up with retirement age? What's up with Greece and Turkey? Yeah uh huh....
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0 ups
You mean the military Europe freaks out about any time we consider withdrawing? We should cut our defense budget but we still have to defend you, right? So who defends us? Germany with its 200 tanks and broken helicopters?
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3 ups, 1 reply
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1 up, 2 replies
Claps* Very nice. While I don't like it such places sadly exist. The reason for them is because Europe was nit prepared for such an amount of refugees coming and these places have been put up at the time as a half hearted temoprary messure but have sadly grown to become permanent.

Yet it begs the question. If you bring this up do you suggest that Illegal immigrants entering the US are kept in such places? Because if they are I'd support miving children to a better lication, but only temporarily.

However I highly doubt such conditions are present in US quvilants of those camps.
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"Europe was nit prepared for such an amount of refugees coming and these places have been put up at the time as a half hearted temoprary messure but have sadly grown to become permanent."
What makes you think the U.S. is any more prepared. Most of the rage about so called "children in cages" has do with hastily prepared housing with chain link around it.
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"The reason for them is because Europe was nit prepared for such an amount of refugees coming and these places have been put up at the time as a half hearted temoprary messure but have sadly grown to become permanent."

And what is ignored in regards to those "refugees" is that there were places set up for them to flee to in some neighbouring countries, but they didn't /want/ to go there to live in air-conditioned tents, they wanted to go to the wealthy countries who were giving away free money. A refugee gets more money handed to them than I as a citizen live on.
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"I even live in a country where there is ni such thing as a 'Border Patrol' because of the European Union wide free travel treaty or whatever its called. Borders are literally imaginary lines whuch anyone can cross no nothing needed."

Then why, and HOW, was Lauren Southern denied entry into the UK, which may have voted to leave the EU but is not out just yet, not until next year. And, in fact, she's a Canadian, which means she's a citizen of the commonwealth, so there's no way she should have been denied entry.
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0 ups
did you share the same thoughts way back when Clinton put the law in place ? or when obama did it in vast numbers ?. you just want to virtue signal with no alternative (that makes any sense). I couldn't imagine putting my kid in danger of any kind to try and jump the line. Laws are laws, not only if they're "comfortable". You can't pick and choose what you are going to follow, you can't just open the borders either. Anyone who thinks that's a good idea isn't smart enough to have an opinion
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3 ups
So, the position should be to change of gration laws, not ignore them.
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2 ups
In the first sentence. Ties the world record!!!
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1 up
The problem with the idiotic "zero immigrants" argument of leftists is that the term "illegal immigrant" is an oxymoron they embrace, so that they can mendaciously try to push the narrative that Trump doesn't want any immigrants.

If someone crosses the border illegally, they are NOT an immigrant, they are an illegal alien, or even an invader. Trump is not opposed to immigrants, in fact he's married to one. He's opposed to illegal aliens, especially ones who have committed other crimes, either before or after crossing the border illegally, crimes more serious than the illegal crossing.
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3 ups, 3 replies
:)
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4 ups, 2 replies
Cowards? Imagine you have a daughter who gets **ped and beat by gang members for simply crossing the street. For this sake of my daughter, I will gladly leave the country and be called a coward. Corruption is so high and gangs are so powerful that the people are powerless. Children are suffering.
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3 ups, 1 reply
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1 up
That's a nice car the pope has. Is it bullet proof also? Oh wait is Iaonsite! I have something for you buddy. Here is the pic you like most!
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1 up
Start a militia. Oh that's right you banned guns. So the good ppl gave them up and the bad ppl kept them and TOOK OVER THE F**KING COUNTRY.
Now you illegally immigrate to another country and support doing the same mistake here.
Gotcha
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4 ups
Go ahead, call me a snowflake. I don’t care buddy.
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2 ups
Youp....thanks Nat
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2 ups, 1 reply
'And that 'Illegal Immigrants' may not get a chance to legalize their status. '
ILLEGAL immigrants are doing something ILLEGAl and cannot LEGALISE their status because they are CRIMINALS. You are obviously very stupid. Go back to Huffpost, Salon (aka pedo weekly) or Newsweek. Your comments are retard tier. But of course you're so retarded you won't be able to grasp that concept.
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3 ups, 1 reply
Lad, walking across an imaginary line whilst trying to escape slavers, terrorists, criminals cannot be seen worse than perhaps theft. Thats the maximum Illeagly entering a place can be seen as. While yes they did it illegally, you've got to hear their story.
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2 ups
it is not an imaginary line - it's a border. I have no interest in hearing the stories of foreign criminals. Running away from ones problems never solved them.
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5 ups, 2 replies
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6 ups, 1 reply
If you’re going to comment about laws please cite your source! The only reason immigration law is currently a topic is because it’s actually being enforced! And in order to change such laws there is an entire system to go through before any changes happen and believe me the world would know about it immediately considering the current media feeding frenzy over controversial topics! So no the immigration laws have not changed and they have nothing to do ethnicity or social bias it’s about national security and this nations sovereignty.
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2 ups, 3 replies
Yes they have not changed because you say so and are too damn lazy or stupid to look it up first. smh lets talk about the Hart Celler act....
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0 ups
hahaha

Cite a source for basic law!
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0 ups
Ok so you cite a law enacted in 1965 that bolsters my initial argument? Doing away with ethnic and racial immigration quotas?? I mean seriously if you’re going to troll at least have an opposing point of view don’t try and help the person you’re trolling! Just a lil handy tip there genius! The laws haven’t changed “in recent years” (better?) not because I say so it’s because they just haven’t and maybe they should be changed, the only thing that has change is their enforcement! The media and left all want everyone to believe that they are battling racism and immigration bias but the truth is all they’re battling for are votes and all of those people they’re supposedly using their high and mighty voices for will be forgotten and dropped till the next election. Don’t believe me that’s fine, watch the thousands of walk away videos and see if you believe those people!
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0 ups
Funny you call people lazy when you're constantly posting fake news you were too lazy to verify.
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0 ups
Im going to get off the immigration thing for a second. I want say that I am so sick of you leftist bringing up past slights as if they are applicable to the here and now. Its like obama telling people to be nicer to Islamic extremists because the Crusades happened a couple 1000 years ago.
Bring up a better argument than something that happened 161 years ago or everything you say I will counter with the fact that the democrats were the party of slavery and jim crow.
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5 ups, 5 replies
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10 ups, 1 reply
Imigration is not illegal, but paperwork must be filed and there is usually a waiting period. Lowering the criteria to merely filing paperwork and passing a background check would be worth consideration. Of course, the waiting period would be the time it takes to conduct the background check (and how long this would take would depend on how backlogged the system is). This would require at the minimum, detention centers to house people while background checks are being processed.
Open borders are not an option. Terrorist still get through even with minimal background checks. Immagine how many with an establisted history of terrorist involvement would come if we didn't even bother to check.
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4 ups
Did you all forget that you are memers and have no control of any part of this issue?
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4 ups
The answer is no.
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3 ups
"Give me your Tired..." is a POEM, not Policy.
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2 ups
When the statists said so
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2 ups
Immigration has never been illegal, therefore that's a complete, boldfaced strawman.

Crossing the border without permission is not "immigration". The more appropriate term for that would be "invasion".
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1 up
Answer: we we became over ran with illegal immigrants and a dieing democratic party that really really could use their votes.
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When our POTUS decided a wall was the best way...
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1 up
This is Amazing! Thank you.
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1 up, 1 reply
Around the time when Democrats began to reject their own policies by blaming them on Trump.
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2 ups, 1 reply
Sounds a lot like when you dump uneducated Republicans where shouting “Thanks Obama” after Bush left our country wounded. Hypocrite.
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1 up
So you admit that people are blaming Trump for Obama's screwups the same way people blamed Obama for Dubya's screwups. We're making progress.
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0 ups
Probably because people are wanting them enforced for the wrong reasons.
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1 up, 2 replies
I think around the same time realizing borders are fake lines on a piece of paper and not worth a single doo doo became an extreme position. Immigration law is an awesome and fun topic for memes though, huh? Great way to stoke some flames. Nice.
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6 ups, 1 reply
Except those "fake lines" determine which laws you have to follow, and what benefits you're eligible for. Also, in some cases they represent major cultural differences (like whether or not women have rights or infidels deserve to die). So if lines on a map are "meaningless" then so are laws that say it's a hate crime to kill someone just because they are gay or that **pe is actually a thing. After all, we must respect their culture even if it stands in direct opposition to our own.

In conclusion, if you truely believe open borders is a good policy, you are a complete and utter idiot.
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7 ups, 1 reply
Practice Open Borders with the front door of your home. Open it up and allow people to enter. Use your money to start caring for anyone that shows up. Feed them, educate them, and give them health care.
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1 up, 1 reply
Ho hum. Who cares?
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4 ups, 1 reply
Dude, you're such a troll and you're not even trying to hide it
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2 ups, 2 replies
Have you seen the meme you're commenting on? Have you seen your comments? Do you know what a "troll" is? (Rhetorical, but I'm sure you will answer.)
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3 ups, 1 reply
He just goes around calling everyone not toting the party line an ad homineming, straw manning, deflectioning troll. That's his only argument. Ask him to explain how exactly, no reply.
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3 ups, 1 reply
I generally only reply in certain situations. And actually, you're the only one on here so far that I've accussed of ad hominem and straw man. Oh and you forgot sarcasm, that's part of your shtick
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2 ups, 2 replies
Lemmie kno if something funny happens.
0 ups
FightingUntruth: Not bad.
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1 up, 1 reply
"I am only looking for a laugh. Capisce?"
Your words. That is why you are a troll. Not for having a different or contaversial oppinion. The word "troll" gets thrown around a lot. Most of the time you really can't be sure unless it's someone you've observed over several comment threads. Many of the people who we call trolls merely have controversial oppinions, are stuborn, or just plain stupid. What really makes a troll is that they argue with people "just for laughs", not to change minds, provoke thought, or engage in dialogue. So yes, I know what a troll is.
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Looking for a laugh on a meme site makes me a troll. But you flaming people about immigration and calling me "idiot" and "troll" makes you some kind of genius. Ok. Whatever, bro. You got it. Your right. Or do you need to keep going.
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3 ups, 1 reply
So you admit to being a troll. Got it. I an relieved to know that you are not that big of an idiot.
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1 up, 1 reply
Whatever you say, boss.
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4 ups, 1 reply
That meme was not trolling. I'm genuinely wondering when what should be considered a standard position (that laws should be enforced) came to be considered an extreme position. Trolling is no engaging in political discussion. Trolling is f**king with people to incite a response.
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1 up
Your troll meme was meant to incite and provoke people who disagree with your position on immigration. I don't care either way, I'm just lookin' for funny shish.
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2 ups, 1 reply
You realize that you could have just ignored the meme if you didn't like it. I thought the submission was funny.
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0 ups, 1 reply
I never said you couldn't think it was funny. And thank you for telling me twice how to act. Am I allowed to have thoughts, or does that make me a "troll"?
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2 ups, 1 reply
The claim that you actually "have thoughts" is a stretch.
(And this IS a troll comment, unlike the others you have accused of being troll comments. It is a mere insult. It will not and can not lead to thoughtful discussion. Provoking dialogue is not trolling. Provoking anger without thought is.)
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0 ups
whatever,brah.
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