EVEN IF 99.99% OF ALL AMERICANS PROTEST FIREARMS, IT STILL DOESN'T REMOVE MY RIGHT TO CARRY. | image tagged in pistol | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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i.imgflip.com/2aw6aj.jpg (click to show) Well we would not need this sign if it was only you
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i.imgflip.com/2bnn1o.jpg (click to show) Tools are tools.
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Public opinion cannot change the rights of an individual
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NOT SURE WHAT COUNTRY YOU LIVE IN. YOU CANT HAVE SLAVES ANYMORE EITHER IN CASE YOU WERE WONDERING. | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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All people have always had the God-given right to life, liberty, and property (except when forfeited through contract or crime), regardless of whether or not society or the government acknowledged that right. I thank God that women have enjoyed the recognition of these rights in America for many years now. As for slave ownership, the slaves traded in America did not voluntarily sell their freedom, nor did they receive forced labor as just punishment for some crime, but were instead stolen and enslaved unjustly. The slave trade was a vile refusal to acknowledge human rights, and I am glad that I took no part in it.
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ALL PEOPLE EVERYWHERE ALWAYS HAVE AND HAVE HAD RIGHTS? YOU LIVE ON A DIFFERENT PLANET THAN I DO | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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I live on earth, where rights are not something given to you by government, but something that governments need to recognize since you already have them as intrinsic qualities endowed to you by God. We do not live on different planets, we just have different understandings of what rights are.
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If those or any other so-called rights are truly inalienable (on account of dieties or whatever), governments, laws, courts, etc, wouldn't be needed to establish and secure those rights.

The irony of your stance is that guns were invented and are used to TAKE those very rights away from others.

Locke's "life, liberty, and property" or Jefferson's "life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness" are just nice words, as Jefferson's 200 slaves can attest. As well as can any properly functioning firearm.
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Rights being inalienable does not mean that they can never be violated, but rather that anyone who does violate them is wrong to do so.

As for guns, they serve to defend rights far more often than they do to impose upon rights (statistically, that is)
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Read the Bible for comparison with yesteryear's God given rights to today's. Just like then, anyone with a bigger weapon or aim can abridge said 'inalienable' imaginary rights.

No.
Guns serve to shoot bullets at whatever the shooter shoots at.
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I do read the Bible on a regular basis (about three chapters on most days). It affirms rights to life, liberty, and property by strictly and thoroughly forbidding murder, man-stealing, and theft.

As for guns shooting bullets at whatever the shooter shoots at, that is very much true. The great thing about guns is that they, unlike almost any other weapon, do not rely on personal strength. A paralyzed man can use a gun to defend himself, even if the person attacking him is in great physical condition. Guns level the playing field, and create conditions where fewer people are willing to initiate an attack. They are the greatest defense against crime, foreign invasion, and government tyranny.
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I have no idea what chapters you've been reading, but there are no such rights, unless you consider the obligations layed out for Hebrew men to supplicate themselves to Yahweh or Elohim, and that women and children within their families are their chattel of which they must protect in exchange for servitude and economic gain to somehow be rights. There are no 'liberties' cited for women or children. Men may sell their daughters into marriage or even as slaves. Slaves have no liberties either, shocker, huh? Nor for foreigners and non-Jews. The punishment for **pe is death - that is, to the victim, unless she is a virgin daughter who must then be forced to marry the rapist or be put to death lest she sully the father's reputation. Likewise for wives and concubines, the death part, that is.

But you know this already.

Guns are for those who feel weak.
Strength, dexterity, aiming ability, etc, improve shooting skills as any regular NRA'erist or senior citizen who are not trained soldiers can attest.

Police, armies, and public opinion are the greatest defense againt crime, invasion, tyranny because the nuclear silo your yard and the tank in your garage require expensive upkeep.
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Love how your reply referenced President Wilson, who was an outspoken racist who resegregated the federal government and set race relations back decades
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Yes, often shapes our government in ways that protect or violate natural rights. As such, public opinion is very important, even if it does not create or destroy rights
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Well, your not allowed to own slaves and women are allowed to vote, so yea, public opinion can change your rights. It's called history, I would suggest reading up on it. You might learn a thing or two.
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No need for childish insults, rights are not laws. I have seen what happens when only one side is armed. I wouldn't wish that on an enemy. Disagree all you want, I will always carry a firearm.
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And I do not have a problem with that. In fact, the notion that all guns should be taken away is bullshit. I was just simply pointing out the fact that enough people wanted it to happen, it would most likely happen.
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I disagree, I do think there will be attempts but so far, every buy back, turn in and bans have failed. The numbers of weapons seized, turned in and bought were small. With 350 million firearms in the hands of citizens, there is no possibility to disarm. The hard truth is anyone with an understanding of simple tools can build a firearm in a few hours. Heck, I would make them for barter items if every single one disappeared over night and I doubt I would be alone.
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True, and I doubt enough people will ever say they don't wan't guns for them to be banned. But technically, it would turn into a black market.
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i.imgflip.com/2bnn1o.jpg (click to show) It is a tool
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Wouldn't matter, no one will turn them in and no army on the planet can fight 60 million armed citizens scattered across every city, road and waterway.
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I am sure that few citizens would not turn them in and then resist police or armies. I am for firearms because people need to defend themselves against others, but I think that the original purpose, to be able to over though a rouge government is not realistic as the government has tanks and bombs. Taking away guns does not necessarily reduce violent crime.
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If guns are banned and you refuse to give yours up, guess what? You're a criminal. Hope you have a good lawyer.
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You'll need more than a good lawyer ????
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The what if game is an old one, I played it while in the military, I have yet to meet anyone that would follow an order to disarm America. The hard truth is our country has been fighting goat farmers for 15 years and losing, planes tanks etc work only in areas that people are packed rightly. The same military that trained me would quickly lose control of is soldiers if each had to choose between securing their own homes or some politicians home. Everyone I ever served with had the same answer to an order to disarm and it was switch sides. Our oath was to the people, not a president, not a congress and not a PC cause that would cause a collapse of the nation. In the end, there is only one solution and the politicians play it all the time: pretend to care, pretend firearms are the issue, change nothing and ask for votes because they tried. I have seen a few things in my life that scare me, one was some idiot on TV claiming that gun owners will disarm if ordered, they will not. I have seen (as have many soldiers) what happens when only one side is armed, it doesn't end well.
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You and I disagree about how many people will turn in guns, and I am sure there will not be a militia if guns are banned. I do think it will be hard to take them from people who don't turn them in, because you would need a search warrant. But it does not really matter, does it, as guns are enshrined in the Constitution and won't go away anytime soon.
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In areas bans might play a part but the further from a large city you are the less compliant. It doesn't matter much as long as the dems do not have power, no control will happen under Trump.
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Sorry if not is in the top line
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no, but you will elect people who want to
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at this point im more outraged at nra payoffs than your rights
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I get that but the nra also doesn't control my rights.
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Have know clue what kind of gun that is but I want it.
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Smith and Wesson shield
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Cool, thanks
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That's how the democratic process works guys.
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We got to be careful. Politicians just pass laws without public opinion these days.
If we ban abortion what will happen. You know?
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Fair point about politicians passing laws without public opinion.
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It still doesn't remove your right to keep prayin'
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Cowardice. It's in your blood.
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I object.

Not to the gun rights stuff. I agree that we should have the right to bear arms.

I object to your rather ignorant and biased view of the French as cowards. If you had any knowledge of history (other than a rather biased and slightly revisionist - almost psuedohistorical - understanding of WW2 history), you'd know that the French most definitely were not cowards, and if they are now (which is a matter of opinion, and even if factual, is most definitely a sweeping generalization with very many exceptions), it is most certainly a very recent development.

Thus, despite agreeing with you on gun rights, I find your ignorance offensive, and thus had to say something in a (probably futile) attempt to correct it.
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You need a gun to defend yourself and you call me a coward. B**ch please
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If you think you can defend yourself from multiple armed people without one, you are a f**king fool. B**ch please yourself.
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Who are you talking about? Which armed people? I leave in France, the population is not armed, it is illegal. So I walk the street peacefully.
How many school shooting SO FAR this year? Is it 23? Who were the shooters? ISIS? Illegal Mexican? Ni**ers? Muslims? No just some kids who got there un legally or took it from their parents.
So keep your gun, keep proving you are wrong by simply doing nothing, keep mocking anyone who tries to change things, keep supporting Trump who say “Give guns to teachers”.
Or you could just keep your gun shut the f**k up and stop bragging on the web.
Do it in respect of all the innocent kids who died because of your paranoia.
Think of them when you go to sleep, cause they think of you overtime they enter their school wondering if they will be alive at the end of the day.
God bless

PS: if your next argument is terrorist attacks, well even trained cops gets killed by terrorists and if a terrorist want to make a mass murder in the US it is not harder than in France #LasVegas. But only international terrorist groups do that, not our regular folks.

B**ch please again
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Asteroïd can keep millions, but in your problem is mass shooting isnt it?
Focus, you are dripping
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Asteroids keep millions of what?
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*kill
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You have no idea how french you are do you.
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I didn't really even consider it, but that does explain a lot, doesn't it?
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just shoot at the asteroid while we surrender to it. and at the end of it let see who got the most school shooting. hey you win again
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Are the people in france allowed to own knives? If three men with knives break into your house, you are going to be capable of defending yourself against them? b**ch please you'll follow the french way and surrender your wife to them
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WTF. What world do you live in? Stop being paranoïac about everything and every scenario. Did this happened to you? Did you save your wife in your bedroom? My house is made of concrete, I got anti breaking windows and I got good quality locks on my doors. Try to **pe my wife or do a school mass shooting with that.
But ok have you son kill his sister with daddy's gun. Thats not fantaisy that is your country's news
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Um, why? If it's so safe there, then, why the fortress strength house?

Not your regular folks you said above. So le Arabique are not regular folks STILL, after how many years of French liberte rule ala de lu roights du hommes and all that other shuck n jive that Algerians, Morroccans, Tunisians, etc... had to shed blood rebeling against? And now you're stuck with those loyal to your cause? Did you forget the bombings in Le Metro and whatnot during the 1990s, when your police would stop, search and take into custody French Arabs just because they did not lOOk like you regular folks? (Here, in America, you need to have a reason to arrest someone, unlike over there, where cops can arrest people because they don't like the color of their shirt if they want).

Just a few years ago, no school shootings, but a fad amongst students in schoolss there, no? Involving knives? Mostly stabbing teachers? Yes? Did y'all finally get that situation under control? (We used to have a French news hour on Ch 25 WNYE till a few years ago in NYC, so I used to watch sometimes).

Anyways, before you go off on me about gunz, no, I don't have one, don't need one, don't see the fascination. But next time before you go "stfu b**ch please" away on people, just make sure it ain't about crap that you aren't exactly immune to yourselves.
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the fortress = painless peace of mind.
It seems from what I hear that american gun owner live in the fear of agression in there house. Their strategy is to defend their bedroom with a gun. That sounds like 1930's French military defence strategy (and we agree it sucked).

About the "regular folks", I don't make deference between people, not even between you and me. But I hear the reactions of Donald Trump who speak of mad man when it is a white shooter and of pure evil whne it is a muslim. Gun fans are mostly Trump fans, So I adapt my laguage ;)

You talk about some stabbing, a few years ago... 23 shooting in amercan school and we the year isn't half gone. You are comparing an insolated incident with a recurent problem.

Horible things happen in France like in every countries. It can happen to me to my family. You have proved to the entire world that putting guns in the hand of the population make the situation worse. This is not my french point of view.

I feel safe knowing that the chance that the people walking next to me have extremly low chances to own a gun. Not only I feel safe but for the last 36 years I have been.

I can argue with my neiboor, I know he won't come back at me drunk with his gun pointing at me. This is feeling safe.

Finally what piss the world of is that dispite the obvious gun problem in the US, some gun owner will need to brag on the net with memes like the original one of this discussion. To me this is just insulting to the victims. If you want to keep you gun, at least be quiet about it.
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^ That's one of my templates.

"Anyways, before you go off on me about gunz, no, I don't have one, don't need one, don't see the fascination."

Hit the Google Translate switch and GO!

Don't do that, don't put words in my big assed mouth, and don't try to put me in a position where I have to defend the right to vote for Trump, defend gun rights, and defend the right of anyone HERE to say whatever OUR American Freedom of Speech that the rest of the ungratious little ingrates hiding in our shadow from themselves pretend applies to them instead.

Me Yankee, me say what I want.

Me buy gun if I want.

Me vote for whomever I want.

Also while your at it, try not to lie, cuz you already know I know the facts about stabbingSSSSSSSSS in French schools. Weren't just one, was a FAD indulged in by many a student - elementary, no less, yes - erm - oui?

And skip le brotherhood Francaise, you guys are as racist as they come. Reluctantly taking in Muslims from YOUR enslaved colonies after they FOUGHT for you, then shoving them into the suburbs of gay Paris which ain't quite what suburbs are in Yankeeland, are they? We call them slum buildings, "projects," here.
How many of them Arabs are there 2, 3, 4? generations born without being granted French citizenship? You got what, 500 Viet Namese from YOUR Indochine and we got 10s of thousands because you wouldn't take them. So spare me your white vs Arab claptrap. Over here, EGADS! Arabs ARE whites also.

BANG! BANG!
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Kids dies in schools cause gun are easy access. Guy says "blah blah blah keep my gunz"
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"DudeKiller
Can you find me an article aout the stabs?"

Google it, or do you need le Americane to do everything for your hapless French ass?

Again,

READ

WHAT

I

SAID
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" DudeKiller
Kids dies in schools cause gun are easy access. Guy says "blah blah blah keep my gunz" "

You still at it, not even reading what I posted, you dense little creampuff?

Why don't you address the two gun owners who replied to your cuckold wimp shit? Or do their bullets scare your teeny French testes?
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I'm talking about 2018 problems, you talk about Colonies that ended 50 years ago.
I'm talking about your kids dying today, you speak of citizenship???

So yeah blah blah blah

Focus on the subject.

You and I are here and alive in 2018, we can influence the future not the past.

So what is the point of saying your country did this or that. All countries have a bloodshed history.

In the present guns are an issue in your country, a big issue, a 10000 dead a year issue.

This original post says I don't give a crap about it even if 99% of your citizen would want to solve that issue. Who care if you own a gun saying that.

I'm sorry but this is retarded. And I see a lot of those meme on the net.

Your future is already bloody

Keep prying
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"DudeKiller

I'm talking about 2018 problems, you talk about Colonies that ended 50 years ago.
I'm talking about your kids dying today, you speak of citizenship???

So yeah blah blah blah

Focus on the subject.

You and I are here and alive in 2018, we can influence the future not the past.

So what is the point of saying your country did this or that. All countries have a bloodshed history.

In the present guns are an issue in your country, a big issue, a 10000 dead a year issue.

This original post says I don't give a crap about it even if 99% of your citizen would want to solve that issue. Who care if you own a gun saying that.

I'm sorry but this is retarded. And I see a lot of those meme on the net.

Your future is already bloody

Keep prying"

tl;dr

READ

WHAT

I

SAID,

You sniveling gutless little escargot sucking garcon.

And mind your own cowardly country's racist business.
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country's racist business????
The post is about guns in the US.

I feel like you don't want to talk about the suject of this post.
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"DudeKiller

country's racist business????
The post is about guns in the US.

I feel like you don't want to talk about the suject of this post."

Yes, it is.
And I already did.
And you have not read what I said about it.
And YOU brought up YOUR country and inserted it into the dialogue.
So now you get to here about that cesspool from ME.
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Can you find me an article aout the stabs?
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Figures you'd live in a bunker. We don't need to here. Our criminals have to worry about lethal consequences for breaking and entering or robbery, so we get to build our houses for space and comfort. Though I suppose being European the bunker house might not be such a bad idea for the next time your continent decides to slaughter each other by the millions for the most ridiculous of reasons
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"Figures you'd live in a bunker"
See, you are exagerating again.

Do you have robbers in the US? yes.
Do we have robbers in France? yes.
Are your guns making a difference concerning robberies? No.
Are your guns making a difference concerning mass shootings? yes.

Concerning the "protection" that those guns provide to the US:
- Iraq War (2003-2010) 4,491 US soldiers deaths. Around 640 deaths a year
- Vietnam War (1955-1975) 58,318 US soldiers deaths. Around 3070 deaths a year
- World War 2 (1941-1945) 407,316 US soldiers deaths. Around 101,829 deaths a year
- US in 2016, 11,004 only gun homicides
- US in 2014, 8,124 only gun homicides
- US in 2010, 8,775 only gun homicides
- US in 2001, 8,890 only gun homicides
- France in 2016, 862 not only guns homicides (equivalent of 4318 for the US population)

So in 2016 you got the gun casualties the equivalent to
- 17 Irak war years
- 3.6 Vietnam war years
- 10% WW2 years
- 2.5 french homicides year

So when you say
"next time your continent decides to slaughter each other"
do you even realize what is going on in your country?
Yes ther might be a "next time" for us. But in your case you are at it forever

Do you understand why we feel sorry for you, and why we hope you make a change
Even if you don't like it, we care about you like any human on this planet.
:(

my sources for the numbers, this ain't fake news:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States#Statistics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War#Coalition_military_casualties
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Military_casualties_by_branch_of_service
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Figure I found for combined total European deaths in both world wars is approaching 60-100 million. I'll ignore the other countless rediculous European wars that preceded WW1, just so I don't have to humiliate you any farther than I already will. If the US loses 10,000 people per year to gun violence(which is actually being generous to your argument, as the average of the numbers you gave me is lower than that), it will still take us SIX TO TEN THOUSAND YEARS to catch up with you barbaric f**ks in terms of killing each other. How's that for putting your bullshit into perspective with some numbers that aren't fake news? Your supposed moral superiority over the USA is a f**king joke. Get back to me in ten millenia without another european war and maybe I'll have any interest in you telling us how to reduce violence. However, knowing your country, that won't happen. Europe will have another huge war, probably with Russia, and they will once again drag the USA into a huge war that isn't ours to fight.
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My numbers are accurate and I gave the sources.
They show that at "peace" your country gets more casulties than at war.
For us war on french soil and casulties ended in 1945.
Appart from terrorist attack that every country has to face, we are no longer killing each other in Europe since 73 years. your young country is 237 and you are still slaughtering each other. So for the last 3rd of your history you are backyard compare to europe.

I'm not talking moral, I'm giving you facts. 23 Shooting in schools so far this year.

What do YOU plan to do about it. Pray as always?
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Even if you are making some valid points your profanity renders your argument obsolete.
Tell me, if politicians truly care about saving lives why do they not do something about the drinking problem? I know people who died in car wrecks but I know of no one killed by a gun.
Speaking of car wrecks maybe we should do something to lower speed limits. In my state a particular road had the speed increased from 55 to 65 mph because everyone was driving over the 55 speed limit.

There are many changes that can be made to save lives. But all that aside, is it moot to point out that these mass shootings happen in gun free zones? And it is against the law to kill, correct? But because of the actions of a few the rest of us must suffer the consequences?

By that logic all muslims should be deported because their religion produces terrorists. But that isn't fair to the good ones. Like wise with guns.

If you support drinking, smoking, obesity, lack of morals, etc. Don't pretend that you care about lives by wanting to hop on the popular bandwagon by wanting to ban guns. This is the result of a host of problems and you are fooling yourself to believe that banning guns will solve the problem.

And remember the 1.5 million Armenians who lost their lives due to a tyrannical government.
Remember the 20 million Russians.
Remember the 20 million Chinese.
Remember the 16 million Jews.

And never forget how it happened. They was disarmed, or never had that privilege, and the slaughter happened when the tyrannical government decided to get rid of those people.

Call me paranoid, call me a b**ch, call me what you will. Just don't call me a foolish cowardly sap willing to swap my freedoms for a perceived safe space.
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Speed limit on country road is being lowered from 90 to 80 km/h starting on July 2018.
The price of cigarettes is constently increasing, they are aiming at 20 euro for a 20 cigarettes pack.
They are putting tax on Sodas and on junk food.
And if you are concerned about tirany and world conflict don't vote for Trump next time (if you did).
About your guns, burry all citizens guns in garden fallout shelter. and forget them until the next tyrannical government occurs.
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And your ignorant mouth speaks again. Trump is a tyrant huh? Which reporter has he jailed so far? They all hate him, they all report negatively on him and everything he does. What groups has he prevented from assembling to protest? Is it common in France to speak on matters you clearly don't understand? Get your own broken mess of a nation fixed before you try telling a nation that surpassed you a century ago what they need to be doing.
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And yes he is a tyrant. He's been in office a little over a year and the country has never been in this much turmoil since the civil war. Anti-white supremacist protests have been subdued by SWAT in riot gear while nazis simultaneously get protected for spitting hate. It's definitely common in the US to speak on matters you don't understand. Trump's base is full of them. That's why he *said* he'd run as a Republican. Because you all are so stupid he knew exactly what to say to get the sheep to fall in line.

As far as France goes, we probably wouldn't have won the revolutionary war without them. Unless they never taught you about the Treaty of Paris in school?
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Damn, you really did drink the kool-aid.
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There's a video of Trump talking about how and why he'd run as a Republican after years of being a liberal. And you think he's the greatest thing since sliced white bread. You're the one drinking out of the koolaid fountain pal, if you think any part of what Trump does is ok.
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Ever think that if they ALL hate him (and yes, FOX also did prior to him winning the nomination as did the RNC), there just might be a reason for it?

It was common for France to loan us the money to fund the American Revolution, a loan never repaid since their crown fell shortly after, so in effect a grant.
If we can fix CHINA'S faltering economy and broken spyware companies as well as wiggle the same for Kim Jung-un, we can stick with those who have been OUR ALLIES since before we were independent.
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You realize we had a pseudo-war with France within 30 years of the revolution? That alliance did not last. The alliance formed with France during WW1 also did not last past the war; we were neutral at the outbreak of WW2. How stupid are you that you try to argue shit that's so easily disprovable by virtually anyone with historical knowledge? Alliances come and go as nations' interests change. We're growing farther from Europe but closer to many nations in Asia.
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How stupid are you that you can't see that Trump is Putin's puppet, alienating all the countries we've been allies with heading into present day and now aligning us with the communist countries who have been enemies of the US for decades? You'll follow that fool over if a cliff if he said so.
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Closer to brutal enemy COMMUNIST dictatorships (as BlueNinja1 pointed out), while pulling us out of the Trans-Pacific Pacific trade pact last year?

Trump told Kim Jong-un that we would stop having joint military exercises with South Korea, a total surprise to everyone except China, who may have announced it in China BEFORE the meeting even took place.

You're smart, explain that little chunk of prophecy, traitor.
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When really they make large egos feel powerful, and are used to kill small animals, and they stroke them at night fantasizing about obliterating people of color with them...
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For that matter, 80 mph is fast for any road. Country roads should not exceed 55 mph. But your definition of a country road and my definition may be two different roads. Still, 80 is way too fast. Especially considering that one car out of twenty drives the speed limit.

Cigarettes have received much hate in recent years. But it is almost considered bigotry / hate talk to discuss matters of obesity.

Well Trump hasn't done anything unconstitutional yet. But if he does, why do you think we value our Second Amendment?

I am not one of those people who believe the only way to stop bad guys is with a gun. As someone who loves martial arts, I like to think of other ways to stop murderers, rapists, etc. But guns are very good equalizers. You can't expect an elderly woman to fight off a gang of hoodlums. And even the most well trained fighter can only take on so many. While I would give myself a good chance of success being unarmed against a punk with a gun. (In the right environment. Obviously inside a building will be easier for the unarmed person than an open field.) It is practically impossible to take on multiple armed opponents. Especially if they are trained CQB.

Why bury something you could potentially need? I personally do not feel comfortable packing one around in stores / public places. But that is because I am a lousy shot. Now at home, I have a few ready.

And just because one carries a gun doesn't mean they have to kill their assailant. I have heard of many stories where the homeowner yelled out they have a gun, or just the presence of a gun, de-escalated problems real fast.

Consider this, in every mass slaughter throughout history. Those atrocities were committed by armed troops against unarmed people.
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Hi sir David, You misred me I think I said 80km/h not mph :) This is a equivalent to 50 mph.

About obesity, you have to make people realize that it is wrong, for there health, not for moral reasons. Obese people need help not shame. But in the end if the person is ok with the condition well...it's his/her problem.

Why bury them?
Well if government strikes you will have time to get your guns. You did consider during the cold war that you'd had time to burry yourself in Fallout hides.
Same if another country attacks you, civilian can help the army with those hidden weapons.
If you get drunk and pissed of at your wife or neighbor or boss... it is better not to have an easy acess to it.
If you have kids, they absolutly must have no way to acess the gun, no way. Kids are smart they will find the gun.

Concerning self defense...
Well are your stats of **pe and muder better than ours, sadly not. Weapon don't have a positive impact on those stats. You get weapon, criminals gets weapons. Crime scenes are only getting messier.
In France if you get mugged by 3 guys, they will get your money without guns. In the US those 3 guys are not stupid enough to mug you without a gun. In this case what is the point of having one.

You can find any example of situation in which guns could save you. But in the end if you look at the big picture the number are there. It is much safer to live in other civilised countries than in the US.

Lat point you mentioned are atrocities. Lets take the an example that is going right now of a tiranic government who is fighting its armed people : Syria. Rebels are armed. What chance do they stand against tanks, jet fighters, bombs, gas attacks. Their only hope is the help of the army of another country.

If your prsident chooses to use the full power of the US army, what can you do?
He can nuke a few states. What can you do. If they Shut down civil power plants and communication systems. You don't stand a chance. The civil war days are over.

Conlusion is that those weapon don't help you, won't help you, and only bring thier share of tragedy.

That being resonably said. How to solve your gun situation is a huge problem.
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I dont "need" a gun to defend myself. Just having it deteres confrontation. Lol.
I'm like the fonz your basically potsie.
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HA HA, gem!
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Open carry
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LOL
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I truly can't stand Chapelle.

Truly.

I do like QEII tho.
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I liked dave, because in hs all my friends andI, different colors some, could sit and laugh together.
Cuz sterotypes dont have to hurt. :)
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I just never found him funny, he just talks like it's supposed to be. Plus isn't he always ranking on white folks, like incessantly and only them? You know I'm into equal oppurtunity, gotta spread that hate around and trigger everybody.
Plus his voice, ugh.
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Dunno.
I thought it was good. Liked his stand up too. Saw him in Phoenix in 2006? 7?
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Actually, someone gave me a link to a bit a few months ago, he was kinda funny. Maybe it's just what I caught in the past, like interviews on Conan that didn't work for me, and I just changed the channel when I saw him too quickly.
People seem to like him. Then again, they like Carlin too, but I don't, so....
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Theres a interview with him on that actors theater show, (with that guy will ferrel used to play on saturday night live) it's really good. He explains why he leftHollywood. Buncha weirdo pedophiles.
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Best joke ever
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99.9% percent is enough to overturn a law, so, yes. They can.
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Thank you sir you just caused another mass school shootings.
Dang these Americans are so dumb ????
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Typical, hate things you do not understand. School shootings are not my fault or any of the other 50 million armed Americans. I bet you blame death on graveyards.
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Is that a question?
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No i live in Australia were there are no mass shootings because there are no guns
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Australia had a mass shooting three weeks ago...
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Yep and that was the first mass shooting in over a year when America has a mass shooting on average every 64 days
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And that is a reason to take away my right to carry a gun?
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You see, your opinion isn't the law. It's just your opinion and I respect your right to have it, even if I disagree with it. But at the end of the day it's just that. As a matter of fact I'm currently at work and carrying a gun. It's concealed on my body and hasn't hurt anyone. I hope I won't need it, but in the event that something does happen it's just a flick of the safety.
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I have two of those. They have never killed anyone and neither have I. I have passed background checks for them.They just sit in the vault until I take them out. Your opinion does not override my right to have them.
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Haha, I don't think so.
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Public opinion IS what inspires new laws.
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And yet Auz's net violent crime is back where it used to be, and America is less net violent than the weapon-castrated UK. Nope nope nope, you don't know what you're talking about, sorry.
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But, but you just said there are no mass shootings, because there are no guns.
Yet.....
There was one 3 weeks ago.
What does this tell you?
Your violent crime rate didnt drop.
You b&es skyrocketed. **pe is higher.
You cant even protect your woman because they dont respect you as a man lol.
I really love Australia too, but it's sad what you crazy f**kers have done to yourselves.
You cant even defeat the emus.
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Get a grip - learn how to look things up - http://bigthink.com/strange-maps/mass-shooting-maps-compared
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Emus are cool tho. And they can rip intestines out, so yeah.
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The great emus war.
We lost alot ot good men out there.
-australia
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Terrible tragedy, tough birds, they.

Speaking of Oz, this New Zealander thinks he's at war with me and America, because he's jealous and is gonna put us in our place, which unfortunately for him, situates our butt over his teeny head:

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Made this one the other day. Made me laugh.
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That's amazing, you gonna submit it?

Haha, just gave that f*g a send off near the bottom of that thread. Hates America, names himself after Dunkin Donuts.

Gotta feel for them tho, like seriously. Can you imagine what it's like living in the shadow of the US? They literally have more about us in their news than they do about their own. Even Britain, which is kinda our feeble old senile ma, and so in 2nd place in the world.

That forum I used to be on, Brits and Aussies knew more about the candidates during our 2016 primaries than I did. Like is it that boring over in them places?
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Did you mention the billions of dollars we give them to keep them safe?
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Oh, yeah, I forgot, everybody's allowance from big bad Uncle 'Murica because they might starve because the blitzkrieg bombed their potato fields 75 years ago and then their one cow died.

That guy ran like the stiff upper lipped dick taking asshole he is, y'all tore him up.

I had a go at that Frenchie too, and some habids also. Busy night tending to these crybabies. "Waaa waaa, "Mamamerica not give me big enuff cookie!"
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Check this thread out, the mujas are hoping around, one even pretending to be Christian while licking muja ass:

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Get on the muj thread, I'm single handedly killing these idiots, but I'm getting bored with them all, and I still got a couple to get to.
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I upped you there. These people.
Europeans lol. They used to rule the world. Lost it. Now wanna lecture. Go figure.
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Another muja one comming up on p4 or 5
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