if it worked with drugs, then it will work with guns. NOT

if it worked with drugs, then it will work with guns. NOT | WHY DON'T WE JUST MAKE GUNS ILLEGAL SO THEN NOBODY WILL USE THEM? YOU MEAN LIKE WHAT WE DID WITH DRUGS? | image tagged in guns,captain obvious,black guy confused | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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WE SPENT TOO MUCH MONEY ENFORCING GUN LAWS WE SHOULD JUST LEGALIZE IT LIKE MARIJUANA | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Why make gun laws if criminals don't follow them?
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6 ups, 1 reply
really? because its fully logical
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Laws dissuade criminals from committing that crime. But laws also shouldn't put innocent people in danger.
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YO WHAT'S WITH ALL THE GRENADES? | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Black Panthers
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KKK
Mafia

The Communist Party
The Anarchist Party
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the Republi/Democans

Absinthe
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Moonshine

The Gov't is surprisingly good at curtailing things for real real when it so chooses.
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Notice how no one is arguing against you right now? This is the truth they're trying so hard to deny. Because I think they know it, too, they just don't want to admit it. That's why I'm saying they don't care about kids dying if it means they have to give up their toys.
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Thank you. Weird stuff isn't it. Here's some food for thought. The subject isn't easy. But in this modern day and age, having toys at a gunclub or gunrange is ok, but for self protecting? C'mon we don't live in the middle ages anymore. If we want to move forward, things have to change. It all comes down to trust, trusting yourself and your neighbour, police and government. (don't hit me with conspiracy shit, have some trust and think for yourself)

If we turn it around, there is something that needs to change, several things actually. It's not a single problem. The thing that baffles me is why no one is asking why he shot up the school, because there lies the real problem. Bullying, exclusion? If we want to change it, you also need to change the envoirnment we live in. We people are a weird kind, we don't want to change and wanting to protect it and habits whatever the costs.

Argument for having guns: to protect yourself- ok, then why are crazy gunmen never shot by people that have a gun to protect themself.

have guns because we don't trust the government, well that is a problem in itself. Why is that, old thing from the wild west when the settlers came from Europe?

We'll never stop illegal guns, that's a non-argument, but we sure can minize the wrong people having them. Having a firearm permit, Phyc checks, background checks, only semi-automatic guns, gunclub registration for beeing skilled owning one, police checking your gun and ammo storage. You can't stop the people that snap and go nuts. There are more nutsjobs on the streets, then that are locked up.

It goes on and on. But we have to start somewhere if we don't want our children to die unnecessarily.
I'm afraid the replies will come in now.
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Strawmen should be illegal, so then nobody will-oh.
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Thank you! I thought that this would get a shit-ton of downvotes because it disses both sides.
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I've seen people mention Chicago but I'm failing to see anything other than a no open carry law there. Unless you're talking about that ban some years back that didn't last very long because they're surrounded by red states where people from Chicago could go and buy guns anyway?
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I can give more examples. I just used Chicago because most people know the statistics.
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The Left always tries to use the argument of other european countries that have banned guns but this isn't europe. Let's talk about North America. No one mentions El Salvador, Guatemala, or even Mexico..where guns are banned or heavily restricted but they have the highest murder rates and gangs rule. Do they not count? If not, why? Is the Left not citing them? Because they are shithole countries? To not include them in the stats the Left is admitting they are shithole countries and that is racist.
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Those countries have weak and corrupt law enforcement, guerilla militias and drug cartels controlling politicians and assassinating them left and right. Our society is different. It's not an apples to apples comparison.
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We have corrupt law enforcement, or Hillary would be in Jail. We also have MS-13, bloods, Crips, Hells Angels and so many other gangs and we have the Largest drug cartel in the world. Big Pharma. ALL of the school shooters and most of the other mass shooters were on some kind of psychotropic drug like Xanax, Ritalin, or something similar. If you want to stop school killings then quit giving pills to kids.
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Hillary would be in jail for what again? (Still waiting for the axe to come down on Trump's collusion with Russia and taking bribes for treason). Corporations are different from cartels for obvious reasons. Suburban gangs are different from jungle militias for obvious reasons. You can try to draw comparisons but our country is still a lot different from those or so many people from there wouldn't be trying so hard to come here.
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4 ups, 2 replies
Let's equalize between drugs and guns. Both are legal only when used in your own home on yourself.
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And drugs have so much in common with guns...
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I could live with that.
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Yeah boiiiiiiiiii
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2 ups, 1 reply
In case of emergency, break the glass for hard drugs.
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4 ups, 2 replies
Guns aren't legal to protect you from your own government. That's still treason. They're legal for arming militias against foreign invasion. (It's like they only read the parts of the constitution they like. Kinda like the bible.)
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9 ups, 3 replies
It's only treason if you lose. That's how The USA was born. Pretty sure one of the founders of our country said it was our duty to kick our governments ass if they got out of line.
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6 ups, 2 replies
That is the concept of the Social Contract. Governments exist to serve its people; if it fails to do so, if it breaks the contract by failing to serve the people, then they have both the right and moral obligation to replace the government with one that will.
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Truth
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Like in the Civil War?
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Yup, they lost so they're a bunch of rebel scum. Nobody likes losers, especially pro slavery ones.
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Exactly. People forget why we migrated here in the first place. lol
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Well... There was a comment in another meme about armed people ready to overthrow a government which becomes tyrannical: imgflip.com/i/24r4fl?nerp=1519235113#com2134111 So which is it? Washington D.C. going nuts, or the commies invading U.S.A.? Why do we need the 2nd amend?
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They aren't invading. That's too costly. They're just helping us tear ourselves apart from within. We're literally doing the dirty work for them. All the guns in the world aren't going to change that. By the time we're done we'll probably welcome them with open arms (POTUS practically does).
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So 2nd amendment and all the AR-15's in the world won't help against the enemies of U.S? Geez, sounds almost like the 2nd amendment might be a bit outdated.
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If you're such, an expert. Tell me then, how would you solve gun control?
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4 ups, 5 replies
well sadly i'm not an expert. :( but what i do have is a brain and sense of logic. so all you have to do, is give security guards at school, guns so things like Columbine and the Florida Shootings wouldn't happen. guards at the school couldn't do anything because they didn't have any guns.
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And Columbine.
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Both school shooting you mentioned had armed guards.
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2 ups, 1 reply
Although I would agree to that they're are blowbacks with trained school resource officers already carrying guns but if the general public didn't have access to guns in the first place how many lives do you think could have been saved?
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4 ups, 2 replies
true. a very good point. although, we already have limited gun laws. ridding us of our ability to own them, makes the criminals the only ones with guns, because they are the ones that break the law anyway
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3 ups, 3 replies
This is essentially flawed though, yours and the meme creator's first one cannot simply compare drug issues and gun issues in the same sentence they are 2 different issues with 2 different solutions
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2 ups, 1 reply
the meme was showing that making something illegal, doesn't mean people will still use it. drugs are still a problem even though they are illegal. making guns illegal wont solve any problems. if the gun is responsible for me murdering people, then my pencil is the reason i failed the test. know what i mean?
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But that's assuming banning guns and making a concerted effort to eradicate them won't work and we can't say for sure that's the case because we haven't tried it.

People are physically addicted to drugs. There are people who will get sick and turn suicidal without them (opiates) which puts them in high demand. While guns might be an addiction of sorts, you're not going to get the chills and vomit if you can't have one. And no one is going around mass OD'ing people against their will like how innocent people are getting shot. So comparing drugs to guns is not apples to apples.
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drugs should be handled with care and instead of alienating our people because of it, they should provide it in and a stable environment and ween them off it for treatment.
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Guns are totally different the government needs to start cracking down and all guns and their laws while adding many more.
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I think it would be useful for us to enforce the laws already on the books. They are currently not being enforced.
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People are also talking about arming teachers. Personally, I don't like the idea of novice gun handlers around the nation's kids.
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4 ups, 2 replies
Make it illegal to be unarmed in public.
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No. I respect every ones right to choose to own and carry a weapon. But I also have the right not to. I am borderline suicidal and worry about what I would do during one of my worse depressive episodes if there was a quick convenient means handy. There are also other reasons I don't want a gun in my house. In my personal situation, not owning a gun is a responsible choice. But I would never presume to make that decision for others.
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I can relate to that
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In Grind's America you would first be ticketed for failure to carry a firearm in public. You could either immediately talk to a judge or if you are a repeat offender you will be required to appear before a judge where you could present your 'depressed/suicidal' case. The judge would order a psychological evaluation and if you were found to be suicidal/depressed you could apply for a no-carry liscence.
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4 ups, 2 replies
That's more oppressive than banning firearms. Freedom means free to choose, not mandated.
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2 ups, 1 reply
Great leader Grind is called oppressive for forcing empowerment on his people. Oh, the irony.
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3 ups, 1 reply
Nothing that is forced upon you is empowering. The most oppressive mandate voting.
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1 up, 1 reply
False. It may be 'oppressive' but it's definitely empowering.
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what do you do when someone breaks in your house? What do you do if someone pulls a gun out at the convenience store and tells everyone to give him their wallet? I'd rather be a little bit of a dick than a big ol pussy like you.
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C'mon. Tell it to the Swiss.
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Yea, they are Number #2 in death from guns. Go figure. I would still be willing to compromise and adapt their laws. https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/society/bearing-arms_how-gun-loving-switzerland-regulates-its-firearms/43573832
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In grinds America what do you tell the parents of the children killed by accidental shootings? the deliberate ones? grind you are not right in your head. You belong in Tucson AZ in 1883
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2 ups, 3 replies
There would be way less accidental shootings in Grind's America because children would be educated about gun safety in school. Not just proper handling, but scenario training as well. Incidents of deliberate shootings would decrease also because potential shooters would know that they're going to have every one around them pointing their piece right back at them. The transition will be rough at first, but once society adapts there would be unprecedented peace in the streets.
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3 ups, 3 replies
Just like there was peace during the Cold War?
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4 ups, 1 reply
Utopian peace doesn't exist and never will. Better to be prepared than outgunned.
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2 ups, 2 replies
Being prepared is good. Saying that everyone should be legally required to carry a gun with them is absurd.
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Well with the increased ownership with guns crime has been decreasing in the past couple of decades
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Absurd or Brilliant?
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ohhhhh shit!
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it just got heated
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Neither wil you.
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Less water in the house, the less likely you'll put out the fire someone else sets. And if guns are banned, I'll just get a crossbow.
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btw, if someone were robbing a store with a gun, guess who the first people shot are? Wrong, its the ones WITH the gun, robber not worried about the others
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Wrong, it's the crook with the gun because 4 people shoot him.
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MAGA - Make America Grind's America
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Breath Control, Squeeze, don't pull the trigger.
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Tell that to Canada.
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No one is talking about gun confiscation. F**king dimwit
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Maybe YOU are not, but there are plenty of people who are.
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and the ones for defending them.
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I don't who YOU' re calling snowflake, dipshit, but muskets were the high-tech weapon of the time, just as AR's are today. I'm not interested in hunting humans, but I am willing to use whatever is necessary to defend my family and my rights. If you trust the government enough to surrender your right to defend yourself from them - in whatever manner you choose - then you are clearly part of the problem.
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Don't feed the trolls
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Ugh, just upvoting everything cuz i don't care about politics right now......
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You mean Australian did it smartly and it worked?

http://uk.businessinsider.com/australia-gun-control-shootings-2016-6?r=US&IR=T
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