Liberal Logic

True and it’s they only reason Biden got elected.

He went from being “terrified” when Trump won in 2016 to donating $300,000 to his 2024 campaign.

Today on Honestly, @bariweiss
speaks to @shaunmmaguire
and two other former democrats who are casting their ballot for Trump.

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Cool. I wonder why he supports obviously terrible policy.

The wall *is* border security. Just like the walls around Biden and Harris’ houses.

You mean like paying for pipelines in other countries but nixing a half completed pipeline in the U.S.?

Keeping most of the Trump tariffs plus adding more.

Driving down the value of the dollar by printing money to support wars. Upping inflation with increased minimum wages. Driving up the the cost of housing by inviting a flood of immigrants to live here indefinitely while they, supposedly, wait for their hearing. And no control of how many come in.

You realize most of your Democrat politicians “lied” about WMDs, right?

Show us anytime Democrat policies drove down debt and/or deficit. Anytime a Republican proposes legislation to reduce spending, Dems cry fowl and spew rhetoric about how they are racist and target the poor.

Face it, you have no viable arguments to support the Biden/Harris/Obama/Pelosi/AOC administration.

"The wall *is* border security."

A wall with no security is easy to pass.

If you want a more accurate analogy, imagine owning hundreds of acres of land. When do you know your fences have been crossed? Fences mean nothing without observation. Actual security.

The wall, which has been stated before, is a wasteful spending gimmick. Nothing more. It can’t pass through private property, rivers, lakes, and it does not work in any way other than as a marker. But I fully support drones, patrols, cameras, etc.

It really isn’t that hard of an argument.

That pipeline, which was an unnecessary extension, took Canadian oil from Canada to further south in US. That was Canadian oil transport, not US oil from US soil.

Keeping tariffs and utilizing them strategically versus the senseless utilization under Trump. It’s the same with the Travel Bans. Yes, they should be used when necessary. Trump just did a blanket ban. To utilize yet another primitive analogy. Instead of hammering all the holes at whack-a-mole at once, which is exhausting and fruitless, instead saving your energy to whack as needed.

Minimum wage has actually stagnated yet we’re at record inflation. It’s almost like raising minimum wage is a minor inconvenience over a completely shut down economy due to a crisis. You know what else can shut the economy down? People not being able to spend money. One is just a slow death while the other allows for the economy to actually matter on what people need and works.

Clinton left office on a balanced budget with a surplus. The economy has always stabilized slowly but surely under Democrats.

We are stabilizing RIGHT NOW, under Biden. Just as we RECOVERED from Bush’s Recession during Obama’s administration. Trump’s economy, while stable, crashed inside a couple of weeks. The tariffs and bailouts for farmers BEFOEE covid DID NOT help.

I refuse to engage in mindless ad homenims. My arguments are viable despite your opinions because they are not just rooted in fact, but RESULTS.

If you don’t want to argue anymore, just be honest and say so.

Duh, did you actually think the wall would be built without surveillance? The wall slows them down enough so the border patrol can get there before they disappear into the desert.

Without the pipeline, Canadian oil is transported to U.S. refineries by freight which is more dangerous and creates more greenhouse gasses.

You realize minimum wage increases don’t case inflation immediately, don’t you. I guess not.

Clinton inherited a good economy. The economy was already in decline before he left office.

The rate of inflation has finally slowed to a stable level - after years of hyperinflation. Wages still haven’t caught up.

If you’re dumb enough to think a Harris administration will create a good economy, it explains why you believe all her lies.

Why need a wall if you have surveillance? Is not surveillance more important than walls? Shouldn’t surveillance be prioritized over a wall?

Without surveillance, which there isn’t on areas where the wall is up, it does nothing to slow them down.

Transported by freight, by truck drivers, etc. Still cheaper and environmentally safe and reliable than pipelines which can cause far more immediate damage to the environment.

Not to mention, cheaper. More cost effective.

Plus we’re drilling more here than we’ve ever drilled under Trump. More drilling was never the issue. Where, was the issue.

Clinton inherited a recession under Bush. Automobile Industry in decline, Iraq War, etc. Bush did exactly what Republicans were afraid Biden was doing in order to quickly reduce rising inflation as the economy was in complete disaster by the time Clinton ran.

Why do you think he even won?

Wages haven’t caught up because of the fear-mongering that it CAUSES inflation!! When, at best, it minimally affects it. Yes, there will be some adjustment but the gap between wages and spending will close without economic decline. We’ve done it before. And recovered from, arguably, much worse.

Again, throw away the ad homenims.

Harris’s policies are BETTER than Trump’s.

That’s NOT opinion, it’s objective fact.

Trump wants to wastefully spend.

Trump wants prices up.

Trump wants wages down.

Trump wants trade down.

Trump wants spending up.

Trump wants taxes, for the rich, down.

Well when you can’t pay for anything because it’s too expensive for your budget; when you can’t buy even cheap canned foods because cans are made from Canadian Aluminum is now too expensive; when the government is spending money to deport or detain undesirables, on walls instead of security, and digging and supporting structure that do far more environmental damage without the same cost-effective strategies…

Trump will raise inflation, raise debt, and tank the economy in yet another Republican-led Economic Recession.

Harris’s economic policies economy are the way forward.

Until Republicans START increasing taxes, START supporting wage increases, START supporting fiscal spending… there is no reasonable argument to vote for a Republican.

And I want to, my man. I really want to. We need viable and reasonable oppositional political choices.

Republicans are running on “tank the economy.”

“ Why need a wall if you have surveillance? Is not surveillance more important than walls? Shouldn’t surveillance be prioritized over a wall?”
There is surveillance except for the parts where Biden cut funding to finish.

FYI, I’m tired of reading your drivel.

You are neither tired nor is it drivel.

You confuse facts and reason as drivel.

And after being tired of reading my drivel, you responded too it.

I am sympathetic to your exhaustion. You’re very free to allow me the last word.

I truly wish Trump supported such things as intelligent discussion. You would’ve been better prepared. And may have had a better point than Trump Man Good.

Hopefully Republican politicians learn their lesson this time.

Trump is the most anti-Constitutional politician we’ve had in the last 150 years.

The last time we had THIS much anti-Constitutional politicians… we had not only a Civil War but we had the emergence of a great and admirable political party.

The Republican Party.

They stood against the anti-Constitutional politicians that later created the Confederacy.

They were for unity.

What does the Republican Party stand for now? They sound exactly like the Southern Democrats of old.

They stand for repealing amendment after amendment, power consultation, states rights, religious freedoms….

The Republican Party has finally become what they staunchly stood against and lead to their very foundation.

I am concerned about that.

And so should you.

If you truly love this country.

Real talk, I am a Republican voter. I found Republicans a reasonable option for MANY years.

But our political divide isn’t as simple as Capitalism vs Socialism.

It’s objectively bad polices versus objectively better policies.

Should we ONLY vote for Democratic candidates? HELL NO! Same for Republicans.

Republicans stood for civil rights, fiscal spending, immigration reform, environmental conservation, and even increasing recycling.

That use to FAR outweighed the Democratic Party’s spending on welfare, healthcare, etc. The ACA was just as much of a political stunt as Trump’s Wall. I firmly stood against it. Still do! But Republicans desire to tear down the minimum wage, social security, education, and dictating medical practices have gone far above viable political optional opposition to mere opposition to what is necessary for our country to move forward.

You want the country to be like it was.

I want the Republican Party back to where it was before the 21st century.

If you truly want to Make America Great Again, then they HAVE to realize that what people need is THAT.

We need choices, not this stupid partisan mockery.

Yes, Democratic politicians are not always a great option. But Republicans are doing everything they can to be the worst option.

They have to do better.

And YOU should want that.

That starts by saying, "Hey, Republican candidates, if you’re not going to do what’s best for the country and for me; I gotta vote for the other guy.”

Not voting in some political stunt of a candidate that pretends to be a wildcard but consistently backs the WORST aspects of the Republican Party.

That just enables Republicans to do worse, not better.

I have heard MANY Trump Supporters be rightfully frustrated with the Republican Party. And so am I. And we SHOULD be.

This isn’t the way. Trump is more than just more of the same. Trump is the last desperate attempt by the worst of Republican policies that benefit the few and not We the People. He IS the Deepstate’s answer to remain and take MORE power.

The Republicans and Democrats who stand against him are not the Deepstate.

You are right to be furious. Except you’re blaming the politicians who actually want to hold those very people accountable. And pretending it’s just political persecution.

It’s constitutional prosecution.

True, Republicans and Democrats kept moving further left. People are voting money out of the coffers. But at least Republicans are still further to the right than Democrats.

For POTUS what matters most is the type of Supreme Court justices they nominate. Leftist judges who legislate from the bench based on feelings instead of the law as written can damage the country for decades to come.

No, Republicans and Democrats didn’t move further left. Wasteful spending isn’t a left or a right solution. It’s a problem.

Republicans are neither left nor right. They are… whatever Trump tells them to be.

Trump is a parody of the leftist view of a rightwing conservative because of his liberal roots. He thinks this is how conservatives are, how they should act.

Conservatives are better than Trump. Saying things are worse because we’ve moved to the left or the right is mindless talk.

If you want to convince people, talk about the policies, their repercussions, and their flaws. And you can’t do that because all you know is “leftists bad”. And I’m saying more than just “right bad too”. I’m saying there is a fundamental need for a viable choice of candidates. Not A candidate. Not A party. We need a choice.

The Supreme Court shouldn’t legislate at all, true. But they’ve been doing quite a lot of that. Even with Trump’s Supreme Court picks. Arguably moreso than ever before. That isn’t a failure on the Supreme Court or who is POTUS.

That is a failure if Congress failing to legislate and leaving it up to the courts to fix what they’re too cowardly or stupid to legislate.

Relying on the Supreme Court to undo Roe v Wade, or anything like it, is cowardice. Granted, a long con, well executed. It is remarkable how they pulled it off. Almost admirable even if it was diabolical. But well-executed cowardice is still cowardly.

Let the people decide. And Republicans have resoundedly said…. NO! Let the States do it instead. Why?

Because they didn’t spent all this time gerrymandering and selecting key court Justices for nothing.

They have everything to lose.

And that is how you take back your country.

By not choosing Republicans. By not choosing their wildcard gambit. No matter how fun he is, no matter how much he makes you feel good.

It’s a lie if you feel like we were better off four years ago. Even five, six, seven… years ago. Because we weren’t. We were recovering then, and still recovering now.

How long do we need to recover before Republican politicians realize their policies don’t work? It’s up to you and me. Every voter.

Trump may yet win but he must lose if you care about this country.

The virus was funded by the 0bama Biden regime...

Saying dementia Donnie over and over doesn't change the fact that kamala is a drone and Trump is a force of nature

So true... even Bribem said 0bama wimped out.

Do y'all think anyone buys this stuff? People are waking up.

Wrong... they are..

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Hmm... collusion?

During a recent tv interview he refused to admit or deny it but said if he did, it would be a good thing. Something like that.

Why would we care about useless tests being sent to Russia?

You can't.

We do.

No seriously isn't Russia the enemy? Wouldn't sending them faulty tests that guve 50% wrong results be a good thing?