just something to think about

When did a US President mandate companies do something or face persecution and penalties if they didn't comply? And for what products?

Besides Joe Biden and the vaccine mandate he placed on companies by executive order (which is leading like a dictator according to Joe Biden)

The stopped enforcing mask wear in the Spanish flu after the politicians were found not to be following their own mandates.

I haven't read that. Not surprisingi suppose.

“The Hippodrome was at capacity all day, and both the Alcazar and the Curran opened to similarly full houses. At the Civic Auditorium, the boxing crowd gathered to watch Fred Fulton win an easy decision over Willie Meehan. In attendance were several notable sporting men of the city, including several supervisors, a congressman, a justice, a Navy rear-admiral, Mayor Rolph, and Health Officer Hassler. The men were so easily identified because none was wearing a mask, as still required by law. All were caught on film by a police photographer, who sent copies of the prints to his chief for further action. Hassler paid a $5 fine on the spot, admitting that his mask may have dropped a bit while he was smoking a cigar. Several days later, Mayor Rolph was shown a photograph of his unmasked visage and fined $50 by his own police chief.
At noon on November 21, San Franciscans simultaneously removed their masks as a whistle-blow sounded across the city, the result of Mayor Rolph’s annulment of the ordinance the previous day.“

https://www.influenzaarchive.org/cities/city-sanfrancisco.html#

Not sure what the point is. They didn't wear masks, the ordnance was canceled, and numbers went up. We don't know whether fewer people would have died if the mayor had stuck to his guns and not been a giant hypocrite.

The point is it became a national scandal and led to cancellation of mask mandates. Then as now masks were of negligible value. The virus came and went I. Waves as most flu type viruses do. That’s why we haven’t worn them against the flu for the last 100 years.

We haven't had a flu like this for 100 years. We've had deadlier strains, but they weren't as contagious. Also the spread by pre-symptomatic people is very high.

That's like saying we've had Winters and didn't wear jackets because they don't work. This is worse. As far as effectiveness - it isn't a huge deterrent, but even we are talking exponential growth, every little bit counts.

I've had doctors offices ask symptomatic people to wear a 😷 during flu season while in the waiting room pre COVID.

Not true, not just federal employees. It also has rules for anyone who contracts with the federal Governemnt, healthcare workers and he is working on a requirement for all
Companies with over 100 employees

Contractors who work for the federal government, yes.

100+ workers is in the works via an OSHA emergency temporary standard. By law they are limited to 6 months. They will allow weekly testing in lieu of getting the vaccine as well.

The healthcare workers were also an ETS. I forgot about that one.

Asking and mandating are two different things. The never ending masking is ridiculous. We are not going to control or eradicate it. It is part of life now. Take off the mask and quit poo pooing any kind of treatment that may work against it. I have never seen such a group of tyrants who demand masks and refute any treatment whatsoever. The Vaccine is not effective in preventing spread and the need is for treatments. I repeat, it is not going away anymore than AIDS or the flu.

There are no mask mandates at the federal level unless you are on a plane or are a federal worker. There are treatments and the vaccine is effective.

Additionally, while studies were lacking in the efficacy of masks, there has been no lack of interest and recent studies have shown that are effective.

Also this is not what this post was about. It was meant to call out the inconsistency of Democrat politicans telling us to wear masks when they don't always wear them themselves.

Don't worry about it. If liberals can't debate anything with facts they turn to false equivalencies.

When i would argue against masks on the basis that they didn't necessarily work, people would tell me that they completely stopped the spread. My problem was always that they didn't eliminate the probability altogether. I'm statistical, so if i seriously wanted protection, I'd get something like a scuba tank. But now those same people are saying they never said what they said. Idk if you specifically said that, which I doubt highly, but it is very amusing and depressing to me how both the media and people seem to think you can't remember their own stances from six months ago or less.

With the car accident thing, yes that can happen, but my point was that surviving there will be far less common than surviving with no mask. If you want to take it a step further, you could compare it to motorcycle riding without a helmet, which will almost certainly jack you up if you crash. It's an example of how precautions save lives, but is horrible because the consequences for ignoring them are almost certain death, whereas this is not the case with covid. I know people (myself included) that will not go into stores that require mask mandates. Most of them have not gotten covid (a lot of ppl ik have gotten it by now, but not those people). And I had covid once, but for a reason that had nothing to do with masks. It was from visiting the doctor where there was a covid patient nearby. So my point is that the effects of masks are not set in stone like a car accident or a motorcycle accident would be.

 it's "masks reduce the spread of the virus, so wear one" is that what reads in the box... you know the box that the masks are oacked in?

"It really depends on the specific situation" ROFL no it dosent. What a lame argument.