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Another failed socialist state, about to be explained away.

3,378 views 116 upvotes Made by anonymous 3 years ago in politics
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21 ups, 3y,
4 replies
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10 ups, 3y,
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Facts
8 ups, 3y,
2 replies
RIGHT BACK AT YA BIG GUY | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
Nice name :).
4 ups, 3y
Thanks!
4 ups, 3y
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I actually have that image as a template
7 ups, 3y
Jimmy Carter is a disgrace.
5 ups, 3y
True.
3 ups, 3y,
1 reply
If the challenge is to draw comparisons between Haiti and Cuba, I’d take that gambit any day.

I mean for starters, in the past 30 years, Haiti has experienced major natural disasters and heavy deforestation that has both weakened its ability to develop as well as wipe out it’s own natural resources. Also, the earthquake of 2010 was so devastating that it wiped out a vast majority of its industrial sector. As a result, Haiti’s educated have been exported ever since. So to put it into perspective, you could nuke Cuba and not set it back as hard as the natural disasters that Haiti has experienced. Cuba does not have this excuse as to why it is doing so bad.

Furthermore, Haiti has experienced great political instability with a coup as recent as the early to mid 90’s. As a result, an economist would have trouble making the case that it has been pure capitalist for the past two decades due to its constant instability. Cuba, on the other hand, has been consistently one system for the last 3 decades without the deforestation, political landscape changing, and worst recorded earthquake in the Western Hemisphere for the past 200 years… so again, what is there excuse?

And if that isn’t enough, Haiti, in the same time period, practiced periods of economic isolation. Not only is that not capitalist at all, it is also the worst possible thing a country can do economically. Cuba has not practiced this at all in the past 30 years… so once again, what is their excuse?

Lastly, economics is incredibly complex and not easily defined. Look at America. Even though they are defined as capitalist, their health care system is not capitalist at all and is in fact heavily regulated (apart from the ophthalmological field… which boasts the most advances in the past 20 years). In the same vein, China has lifted the most people out of poverty in the last two decades than any other country and the primary factor in those two decades was embracing free market policies. So all that to say, just because Wikipedia says they are capitalist doesn’t mean they are completely. In fact, for every “capitalist” Haitian policy, I can counter with one that isn’t.

So much for this being, as you put it, easy.
3 ups, 3y,
1 reply
He soo wishes this was politics too so he could delete your response.
1 up, 3y,
1 reply
Better yet, it would have been nice to get a response. That's why I don't post as much as I use to. People literally make paper thin arguments without out any depth, so you introduce a challenge with a small measure of evidence and they go radio silent. Rinse repeat.

At least when I argue with the right, I get multiple well thought out rebuttals to my arguments.

Well either way, appreciate the applause!
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0 ups, 3y,
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It's a meme site. Not like arguing on here is doing a single thing to make the world better. laugh cry get angry and then make another meme and move on. Discussion and arguments online are won by no one. These are mostly echo chambers and SOME need validation for their messed up thinking. Not me I could care less. Made another meme just now. Good to go. Enjoy your frustrated life of trying to shove your crappy opinion down someones throat. Sorry your opinions suck worse than mine. Deal with it.
0 ups, 3y,
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No- you're opinions are definitely suckier . . .
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0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
Once again your sucky opinion.
0 ups, 3y
Well, duh! Obviously my opinion is MUCH better than yours . . .
0 ups, 3y
Hahaha, I’m sorry I upset you. I’ll go make a politics three where all the winners can talk about their better arguments so you don’t have to see them.
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2 ups, 3y
Ok, Haiti is capitalist but it's collapsing cause of their religion I will not name.
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12 ups, 3y,
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Yep . . . they had a loooooooooooong history of bragging about both Venezuela and Cuba -- remember when Barack Obama nearly tongue kissed one of the Castros? That is, until their dream Utopias failed. The resultant wail of the common leftist loon? "It wasn't REAL Socialism/Communism! Just you wait! We will get it right the next time!"
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8 ups, 3y,
1 reply
Every damn time.
5 ups, 3y,
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There is nothing inherently wrong with the idea of wanting to start over. I’m sure, for them, they may think it liberating. However, I’m always weary of anyone who thinks a total social economic structure is sustainable. History has proven time and time again it is not, and is too easily exploitable by the very elite they seek to dismantle.
4 ups, 3y,
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The only system that works is those that pit greed against greed and power hungryness against power hungryness. Like the US constitution.
2 ups, 3y,
1 reply
There are other constituents that also, more or less, work.
3 ups, 3y,
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Not really, they all break down sooner than later
0 ups, 3y,
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Constitution*

All?

A lot, I grant you, but not all. And to my knowledge, none of the former countries with constitutions were truly democratic with maybe the exception of the American Confederate States. Most were empires, kingdoms, and (claimed to be) republics.

We’re not even the oldest surviving constitution. The United Kingdom’s constitution, the Magna Carter, was written in 1215. Although it has been heavily modified over the centuries, it is still technically the bedrock of it’s current iteration and, arguably, our own.

Even San Marino’s constitution, also still in effect, was established in 1600.

So, why do you think the United States constitution is the only one that can last? Or do you think our constitution is also doomed to eventually fail as well?

And, if you do think it will fail, what would you replace it with?
1 up, 3y,
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Technically the US constitution will eventually fall too, but it will take a long time.
England's has already fallen. They are a totalitarian state now.
0 ups, 3y,
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Freedom is not the fragile thing you think it to be. It is the natural state of human beings to want and achieve freedom. Even if someone successfully takes it away, the only thing brief is not freedom but the tyranny of one, or the few. People who rule cannot live forever. But ideas can and there is no idea greater than freedom. It is bigger than inflexible communism, capitalist greed, democratic echo chambers, bureaucratic republics, and dominating empires. If you starve people of freedom, any people, even in the smallest of groups, they will always hunger for it.

Compromise is such a dirty word but to hold on to unreasonable convictions will always lead to oppression. Even if you think your convictions are good or have some moral high ground, if you cannot find a way to see people you simply disagree with as merely different and your only solution is to silence, discredit, or kill; then you are not for freedom.

A lot of people, unfortunately, find ignorance to be far more valuable than freedom. If you think just because you’re not allowed to share that ignorance that you’re somehow oppressed then you’re someone who values ignorance over freedom. You can only see the power you don’t have rather than the power that you do. You cannot change the minds of others if you cannot change yours. When that kind of frustration hits critical mass, genocide will follow. Just because you think freedom fragile and others to be wrong.

It is you. You are fragile, temporary, and your insistent on the protection of ignorance will not remain. Your ideas will not seed. Not because the land is infertile but rather your seeds are just rocks that someone else has sold to you. That someone, whoever they are, has made a fool of you. But you’d rather be angry at the ground than the merchant. Or yourself.

So you angrily declare that all inevitably will fall while you sulk in your barren fields, waiting to be saved.

The sound of freedom marching all around you as you ignore it’s call with only rocks in your hand. Ready to kill or die for your imagined slights.
0 ups, 3y,
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TL;DR freedom will be taken away if good people do nothing.
Compromise is what you do after you fail to achieve win/win. It's not something you start with.
I do deep research into everything. The only one ignorant here is you. Everything you said was said first by Hitler. Then he went further. Why do you think the corrupt murderers in power now won't go further.?
0 ups, 3y
If you read what I said, then you'd know Hitler didn't say any of that.

Compromise is a win/win.

Obviously not as you generalized that only the US's constitution to be the one that, so far, never fail. You were wrong. Followed that up with a very weak, "no u."

I'm not sure why Trump didn't lay siege to the Capitol. Maybe he doubted the loyalty of his supporters.

Or, at the very least, he didn't think they were classy enough to pull it off.

And they weren't.

Aren't.

Never will.
12 ups, 3y,
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:0)
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10 ups, 3y,
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I Upvote Thee!
5 ups, 3y
I thought I recognized that upvote lol
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8 ups, 3y,
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They're a Communist country that began as a Socialist "utopia." Cuba, pre-1960's, was a booming and economically strong country... until the Communists, disguised as Socialists, took power.
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5 ups, 3y,
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Christians go to heaven and socialist go to communism.
2 ups, 3y
Well. . .in a way Hell is like Communism. . .everyone screams the same. ..
2 ups, 3y,
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https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/comandante-pre-castro-cuba/

Booming and economically strong? Yes.

Politically repressive under a U.S.-backed dictator who murdered opponents by the thousands? Also yes.

I offer this additional context not to excuse the crimes of the Castro regime that came after Batista — but to help explain where it came from.

It is difficult if not impossible for successful communist revolutions to take place in functioning democracies. It takes brutal repression to create the groundswell of discontent that communists feed off of.
4 ups, 3y,
2 replies
Agreed. So Americans who push Communist/Socialist ideals should be vigorously opposed... lest brutal repression be enacted upon the dissidents (aka everyone who isn't on-board with a Communist/Socialist regime).

I hate to break it to you, brother... but I think we may all be running out of time in that regard. Marxism and Identitarianism have already made it in to our military and the highest reaches of our governmental institutions. We may be screwed.
2 ups, 3y
Oh sloth/Kylie fan/Commiekaze isn’t disappointed in that. He applauds the new Marxist wokeism and is a primary proponent of it.
1 up, 3y
Don't forget the Colonists started out with a bunch of barely working weapons and everything still turned out all right for them.
7 ups, 3y
Well worthy of an upvote.
7 ups, 3y,
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5 ups, 3y,
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Oddly enough... she looks better this way, somehow.
3 ups, 3y
yes she does🤭
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5 ups, 3y
So true it aches. They could not spin faster the spin machines were in heavy duty mode big time last week.
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5 ups, 3y
5 ups, 3y
Seal of Approval - Upvoted!
4 ups, 3y
Exactly! And brilliant.
4 ups, 3y
0 ups, 3y,
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Trump supporters talking about socialism as if it's fascism while openly supporting fascism.
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3 ups, 3y
Democrats calling everything they don't like "fascist" while employing fascist methodology to everything they do.
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