In the Tri-State Area , I get 3 times the BS

NY & California my pay more taxes than any other states but that's only because there are a gazillion people living there. However, I would think that the rest of the United States pays more than NY & California.

It would have to math to be sure and I hate math. But I do it anyway, 'cause I'm a software developer and we have to math.

Red states receive 35% if their budgets from the federal government. Blue states receive 30% of their budgets from the federal government. The difference is that blue state budgets are bloated and full of pork so it works out to a smaller percentage. But New York and California are not paying for the other states. That’s ridiculous.

Sure, as an overall amount of stolen money... errr, taxes, Taxifornia gets obscene amounts of money from we the people. You're right about the population being a key factor, but it's not just the population, it's also the tax rates. We pay the highest marginal tax rate of any state, resulting in one of the states with a top tax burden, and we have the largest population of any state. So, combined, those make a pretty devastating combination, tax-wise.

Of course anyone reading this may have noticed I said tax rates, as in plural. I wasn't just talking about our outrageous tax brackets, because out here if it moves or stands still, Dims tax it. If it's yours and the money that bought it was already taxed, and you sell it, Dims tax it again. If it doesn't even actually exist, Dims try to tax it (referring to unrealized income)

If you're really wealthy, say over a million per year income, the nominal income tax rate can be as high as 14%. I'd like to be able to personally complain about that one, but I don't earn enough. Still, they rob me blind, too.

Then throw on an additional 9+ percent sales tax in many counties (certainly here in the bay area) and a plethora of other taxes, fees, surcharges, parcel taxes, a motor tax, of course excise taxes like our insane gas tax, etc. Not coincidentally, we have the highest gas prices in the country to go along with the 62.5 cents per gallon gas tax, and along with county and local gas taxes. Add it all up and we pay almost $1 per gallon in gas tax. 91 grade premium is still over $5/gallon where I live (Santa Clara county).

My favorite is the "use tax", which means, I guess, that they're taxing you for using something. For example a car. You buy the car, drive it for however long, then sell it. The money you get from the sale has already been taxed before you bought the car, but the Dims tax it again at 7.25% - 10.25% and call it a use tax.

And of course, being kind to our oldsters, Taxifornia taxes retirement income at the same rate as non-retirees' income.

And if you only earn $10 K per year, Taxifornia wants $100 from you. So much for caring about the low income folks.

All anyone needs to do to figure out what the federal govt will try to tax next is to look at Taxifornia. Because those taxes will be coming to a govt near you soon.

And they still receive far less back from those taxes despite having a gazillion people living there who also have higher living costs. We're talking about paying more per capita than they receive. People in Red States receive more proportionately than they pay.

I mean, I get it, golf is expensive. It's the sport of rich guys. So why is a dying town giving free golf lessons? Courtesy of a library?

No matter which where you slice that turkey, they sure ain't paying for it, We are. We are. They're not. Nobody on the rest of the planet is paying for it for them. We are. We are.

And the number of people living below the poverty line in New York City alone is more than the population of a lot of these states. Not more than the population of poor in a lot of those states, but the entire population of a lot of those States. So why are we doling out the bucks while we're living in ghettos while folks in other states get to drive 30 minutes each way in their SUVs just to take selfies at the Walmart to post on Facebook? Without having a job?

We're paying for that. We are. Not them. They can't afford to pay themselves to live like that. If they could, they wouldn't be poor, and therefore they wouldn't need us to pay for all their goodies then.

We are. We are.

I think the government wastes far too much money.

The state who I know always has its hand out to the government is California. I don't know about other red states and I never heard about Utah demanding money from the Federal Government. The only thing some people in Utah are concerned about is how much land the Feds have claimed. They're not supposed to have any land but they own over 60% of Utah.

The other thing Utah needs is water. We nearly ran out in some parts of Utah. A few years back, Cedar City (in southern Utah) completely ran out of water. They were having to buy it from St. George (which is very close to the Nevada and Arizona borders). St. George was complaining because they naturally have a lot less water than Cedar City. Cedar City is at a much higher elevation, which means they get snow. St. George rarely gets snow.

Snow is the only thing that gives Utah it's water. We're in the Great Basin. No water flows out of the Great Basin into the ocean like every where else. Consequently no water flows into the Great Basin unless it is snow run off.

But anyway, I diverged a lot from what you were talking about.

I'm not rich and I don't play golf.

No they dont. Blue states receive about 5% less of their budgets from the feds than red states do. They also don’t figure in the massive bail out pork that went primarily to blue states in Democrat bills.

No, actually we aren't. Please step out of your echo chamber and do some research.

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No, if anything the leftists who don't want the national guard coming to town, want our borders open, and are okay with children muitilating themselves (and help them with it) are fine with those things. Please wake up and see the facts, my friend

You want national guard troops to be law enforcement in your city? that isn't their job. No one is mutilating children.

What is the job of the national guard then? They're protecting our country from inside forces (high crime in major cities)

The job of the national guard is to help people in natural disasters and to be available to assist the military overseas, and to help law enforcement during actual emergencies like riots. That's not happening in the cities they are being sent to

Not to assist the Military overseas, that's a George W Bush corruption.

So you don't consider rampant crime an emergency? Law enforcement is overwhelmed in these cities and needs their help even though it's not riots. Do you consider high crime rates and attacks on government officials (ICE agents) a normal thing?

Crime that happens every day is the job of the local police to deal with. It's not an emergency like a riot

Right. Because as a Conservative, Trump is putting the National Guard in cities to make crime worse! Poor Trump, crime isn't getting worse, it's actually going down. Who could have seen that coming???

Good grief, does the left ever even stop to listen to themselves?

And for your civics lesson for today, cheesy, what are the Senate Democrats doing that caused the govt shut down? It's called a filibuster. No, those republicans do not control the senate. Just a simple majority. Sadly, they still need libtards to do what's right.

Abortion is a subset of murder. Read your little slogan again with "murder" instead of "abortion"

Abortin isn't murder. If you want me to replace one word with a word that isn't accurate why would I do that?

Murder is the intentional ending of an innocent human life. Abortion is the intentional ending of an innocent human life. See my conversation with Epic_Sax_Man if you don't think unborn human babies are human for some reason

Slowly... taking... the... bait. Pretty sad that you fell for it. Does anyone actually think they'll ever change anyone's mind on this issue, particularly on a web site? Keep at it though, with that insightful remark, you almost convinced me that you might succeed.