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White people were slaves too. | When the descendants of black slaves are given million dollar checks; and the descendants of white slaves are given nothing; That is systemic racism | image tagged in memes | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
1,402 views 82 upvotes Made by McKennzo 2 years ago in politics
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12 ups, 2y,
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Not to mention that money is coming from white people... who never owned slaves.
2 ups, 2y,
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I have a question. Are you aware of how time works?

No? Let me explain then.

Slavery of blacks existed in this country from 1619-1865 (it's impossible to know how long native Americans had been enslaving each other for). The longest someone has been confirmed to have lived was 122 years old. Right now it is 2023. That means slavery ended over 158 years ago. The same people who were around at the time of the Civil War- are all long dead. The last Civil War vet, a drummer boy, died in 1955. So no, the same people that "didn't do anything" have been dead for decades. Oh, and they DID do something. Perhaps you are not aware of the 5 year long Civil War (started by Democrats, BTW) that cost over 620,000 lives?
0 ups, 2y,
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I AM aware of how time works, and yes, I know about the civil war. I'm saying THOSE WHO DIDN'T DO ANYTHING against it should make reparations. So those who fought and died in the civil war shouldn't need to do anything. Those that stood by and let it all happen, should do something, and if they are all dead (which they are) then their descendants should take up the responsibility. I know this is not how it's being done now, but this is my view.

As for white slavery, the reason why the United States is not gathering reparations to give to the descendants of the white slaves is as follows:

No.1, The majority of the white slavery happened in places other than america, in places like Algeria and the Ottoman Empire, and some europe too. It's not the United States fault that they were enslaved, nor did they benefit from it, but in the case of black slaves, yes, they built fortunes on them too, so reparations is justified here.

No.2, Reparations are expensive. Would you be willing to vote for Biden if he charged reparations from more people for white slaves' descendants? Maybe not, and probably not a lot of others too. So you see, governments aren't so much motivated by racism (if they were, i'ts more likely to be the other way around), more by what can enable them to stay in office longer. They have to be careful of what they do to get as much public support as they can.

In conclusion, there's a balance. Some people might vote for whoever's in office if they made reparations, but more might not vote for them if the president raised taxes or charged more for those reparations.

I rest my case.

(P.S: I have a question too: Is it that you just don't want to have to pay the reparations?)
1 up, 2y,
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Correct. Those people are LONG dead. But why should anyone alive today have to take the punishment for something that was:
a) was widely considered acceptable in the society of the day, especially in the South
b) happened decades (or in the case of anyone born after 1965, more than a century) before they were born
c) already paid for! 620,000 died, even more fought

And that argument leads to absurd results. When should we draw the line? Should the descendants of Native American tribes that enslaved other tribes pa reparations to the descendants of those tribes (i.e., should descendants of, let's say, the Aztecs, pay reparations to, say, a descendant of any of the tribes they conquered)? Should we go even farther, to the Scandinavians, who imprisoned Englishmen? And that brings up another point.

Yes. Many people did own profitable plantations that used slave labor. Again, we had a bloody Civil War over that.

I wouldn't vote for Biden either way, so I don't know what you're getting at. And I don't see how "reparations being expensive" is an argument for them.

So those politicians are essentially buying the black vote? yeah, that's kind of the point of the meme.

You rest your case? Please do us all a favor and never become a lawyer.

Yes, I don't want to pay reparations. Because I never owned slaves, nobody alive today ever was a slave (except in the Middle East, China, and some parts of Africa, but we're talking about the US), and we (white Americans) had already paid for the sin of slavery- in blood.
0 ups, 2y,
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Those are all very good points. I could continue this on, but I think i'll just do everyone a favour and stop it here. Slavery has been a topic that has been debated many times, i'm sure, so so long as you agree that slavery is fundamentally wrong, you're fine in my books.

(P.S: Sorry to disappoint, but law is something i'm casually studying in my spare time ;) )
0 ups, 2y
Okay with me. Thanks for civility!

(If you're studying law, you might want to look into A1S9C3 of the Constitution, as well as debt inheritance, which is with rare exception illegal)
0 ups, 2y
What exactly is your case. We would have to do a thorough historical analysis of every individuals family tree to determine who's ancestors were on who's side to determine who owes, and also who is owed reparations. Due to the multiple generations, many people will have ancestry on both sides.
And as you said "Reparations are expensive" that's true regardless of who you give them to. The current reparation package in California is valued in the trillions, and I'm not sure that money even exists in California's budget.
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12 ups, 2y,
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The thing is, they aren't even going to base it on whether or not ones ancestors were slaves. They are going to base it entirely on skin color.

Also, if we're going to try and "fix" our history, when are we giving the natives thier land back and going back to Europe (which "of course" will allow us in, and not say it violates their immigration laws)
9 ups, 2y,
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12 ups, 2y,
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And not just the black and Cherokee slave owners, what about the black people who SOLD the slaves to the Europeans and Arabs, like the Dahomey tribe that was recently glorified in a movie?
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7 ups, 2y,
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Historical facts are just swept under the Democrat rug.
7 ups, 2y
Of course, they want their shameful history forgotten.

Not that their shameful present is an improvement, mind you.
4 ups, 2y
That's exactly correct. Even if the black person is a descendant of a black slave owner. There's a whole lot more of them than people realize. Liberals will never admit they even exist.
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10 ups, 2y
But, what about that White Soldier that fought for abolishism?
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9 ups, 2y
This in itself will fix every wrong that was done to anyone in history, right? It’s a proven fact that throwing good money to bad situations works miracles, so this is just an extension of that belief.

What about future blacks, do they get reparations when they are born or just the ones alive today? Is there some kind of litmus test that has to be passed before you get some money? Age, location, net worth?

Will they have to pay taxes in their windfall, or will all the money to pay this shit come from just the whites?

You think race issues are bad today, wait till the money starts flowing.

If they talk about it, then don’t pay out anything, will some see it as just another way whites are supposedly hold down the blacks?
8 ups, 2y
I am a descendant of a white man who came to America as a slave, not an indentured servant. I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for my reparations.
7 ups, 2y
Whites are 8% of the global population, if anyone is a minority it is them, we all owe um, pay up.
6 ups, 2y
A payout is unconstitutional and shouldn’t the blacks wait for the Native Americans to get theirs?
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3 ups, 2y
It sure is.
3 ups, 2y
I'm all for those who want to pay out reparations from their own pockets...
2 ups, 2y,
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We are the only species to pay to live on Earth. We are ALL slaves.
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0 ups, 2y
I'm still working for the boss today. I'll get some tips, but that's it.
0 ups, 2y
Are they fr getting checks
0 ups, 2y,
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Can you provide some sources? Where did white slavery happen and where? On what scale? Can you verify it?
1 up, 2y
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_slavery
5 ups, 2y,
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2 ups, 2y,
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Cuase it was the fkn like 60s back then and all the blacks where in the city’s I don’t think their going to migrate to a small ass town in god knows where
0 ups, 2y
Good grief. Seriously?
4 ups, 2y,
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Ah yes a small town is so focused on driving out the blacks I don’t think that’s their issue
2 ups, 2y
Sharecroppers lived outside city limits. Sundown towns of the '60's
17 ups, 2y,
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A slave is a slave.
16 ups, 2y,
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Yes white people were slaves in America and quite honestly we really don't have the clear truth of our history back then for one the history books have been so fabricated and two no one was alive 200 years ago.
1 up, 2y,
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"no one was alive 200 years ago"
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0 ups, 2y
Lots of people were alive 200 years ago, none are alive today, except Merlin, he lives backwards through time.
11 ups, 2y,
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Irish slaves were considered less valuable than black slaves, as I understand it, and so received worse treatment.
16 ups, 2y,
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You know what I meant. No one alive today was alive 200 years ago.
6 ups, 2y
Then verification of the truth is that much more difficult.
Of course that goes both ways, for omission as well as fabrication
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10 ups, 2y
most pirates were muslim pirates, and didn't care what color you were.

but carry on...
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8 ups, 2y,
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Yeah okay, Americans didn't build boats to go get some Africans. The Spanish did that, the English did that....
0 ups, 2y
Yeah, but they made their money and fortunes off of it
7 ups, 2y,
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Umm...the Irish and Hebrews?
8 ups, 2y
. . .thanks for proving one thing I've felt is true for quite a while; not all slavery is physical. It can also be mental.
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2 ups, 2y
Indentured slaves. A lot like what is going on, on the biggest slave trade border in the world.

Well see, the Hebrews walked into slavery....
5 ups, 2y
I think your wrong the amount of black slave is so small compared to Muslim Arabic etc Indian slaves and don’t forget to mention the blacks slaved by blacks
4 ups, 2y
That’s a lie, many white European were enslaved by the Arabs and Islamic armies of North Africa and the Middle East.
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