CDC reported NO COVID-19 deaths of women (ages 30-39) in OR in 2020 or 2021

The answer is to file criminal charges against the governor for violating the emergency authorization act which specifically states that the covid shot cannot be mandated.
Then start a recall election because the governor cannot issue an executive order overriding the constitution "...may not be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law" which is described as a jury of their peers.

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Temporarily move to Idaho until this movement can make Oregon great again. https://www.greateridaho.org/

Get vaccinated like a f**king adult.

Let us know when they develop a working vaxx. Enjoy your boosters every 5 months. Baaaaaaaaaa

Better than no vaccine. Don't you get a flu shot every year?

HAHAHAHHA no. Never got one and haven't been sick in 15 years. But I guess if you get a flu shot every year, you've already been well conditioned to jump at a rushed through 'vaxx' with no long term testing.

Okay. I've never taken a Flu shot and I haven't gotten sick, but this is COVID. You could die drom it. Sure it's not common, but it can spread pretty damn quickly.

I don't buy that the common flu just ended yet muh covid is somehow immune. The same people pushing for this 'vaxx' also had no problem with mandating that people diagnosed with covid be forced into carehomes. I don't trust that they force these masks, that are about ten percent effective, on us and shut down the economy but won't purchase N-95 masks, which at least would be effective.

Now, if you're 70 plus and have other conditions, do what you can. Or have serious health conditions. I get wanting to protect yourself but there are serious questions regarding these vaxxs that don't get addressed by those that told us they were 100% safe so don't be mystified if people are hesitant.

Oh, that's right, because 4 million people die from the flue every year worldwide, 500,000 in the USA.

Since any possible adverse effects the vaccine may have on pregancies (specfically, the fetus) are not yet known, it might be something of a risk for her to take it.

You know what? You actually have a good point there.

Yes, know (haha, couldn't resist)

While it hasn't been proven, there seems to be a possible link between mothers who had the flu during pregnancy and those children developing schizophrenia later in life.
There may also be a link with people who develop OCD and having had caught strep throat when younger but not having used antibiotics to treat it. Even later in life they have a abnormally high count of strep antibodies in their system.
Not sure if flu antibodies are also the case with schizophrenia, but it could be that an excess of antibodies causes the body's immune system to attack itself, leading to these conditions. This is all still theoretical, mind you.

So while this is just supposition on my part, antibodies created in reaction to the Covid vaccine (as they are designed to do) might theoretically have an adverse effect later in life. Again, this is just a big "what if" hypothetical, but we won't be able to rule it out the possibility for several years.

While it hasn't been proven, there seems to be a possible link between mothers who had the flu during pregnancy and their children developing schizophrenia later in life.
There may also be a link with people who develop OCD and catching strep throat when younger but didn't use antibiotics to treat it. Even later in life they have a abnormally high number of strep antibodies in their system.
Not sure if flu antibodies are also the case with schizophrenia, but it could be that an excess of antibodies causes the body to attack itself, leading to these conditions. This is all still theoretical, mind you.

So while this is just supposition on my part, antibodies created in reaction to the Covid vaccine (as they are designed to do) might theoretically have an adverse effect later in life. Again, this is just a big "what if" hypothetical, but we won't be able to rule it out for several years.

A child contracting strep throat isn't thought to lead to OCD, it's thought to cause a condition called PANDAS (pediatric autoimmune neuropsychiatric disorders), unlike OCD the symptoms appear suddenly, are extreme and also come and go.

You realize that antibodies will also be created if someone contracts Covid while pregnant?

The impact on the fetus will be much greater if the mother contracts covid and develops ARDS than if the Mother is vaccinated and creates antibodies.

It's safer for the fetus if the Mother is vaccinated.

I suggest you look up the possible connection between OCD and strep.

No kidding.

You don't know that, because no one does yet.

If you'd looked it up you'd know that PANDAS and OCD are not the same thing, PANDAS causes OCD symptoms but is not OCD.

"It's safer if the Mother is vaccinated"

"You don't know that, because no one does yet."

My point was that if an unvaccinated, pregnant woman contracts Covid 19 she is at greater risk of developing ARDS and ending up on a ventilator. Even in the event she does not develop ARDS, her body will still have a more severe reaction to the virus; This will clearly have a detrimental affect on the fetus.

If a vaccinated pregnant woman contracts Covid 19 (which she is less likely to do), her immune system is already prepared for it, if she experiences any symptoms at all, they will be mild, putting less strain on both her body and the body of the fetus.

It's odd that you are comparing the detrimental effect of one virus with a vaccination for a virus rather than comparing one virus with another.

No need to look up anything up when you're verifying what I said, albeit making a big to-do about the newest term for what had previously been identified early onset pre-OCD - or rather, Neurosis, as OCD turned out to be afterall after that name change.

Your 'point,' like what I had previously stated, is conjecture, a hypothetical.
Except in my case, I stuck a BIG ''big "what if" hypothetical,'' yet one ''we won't be able to rule it out for several years'' as well.

You exaggerated yours, taking one possible and rare symptom only exhibited by the most severe cases, trying to make that scenario seem like it's practically inevitable.

''It's odd that you are comparing the detrimental effect of one virus with a vaccination for a virus rather than comparing one virus with another.''

That doesn't even make sense.
And for the record, whatever you claim I am doing is, as usual, false.

But here, allow me to assist in clarifying your confusion and distortion of what I said by reposting it,

''While it hasn't been proven, there seems to be a possible link between mothers who had the flu during pregnancy and their children developing schizophrenia later in life.
There may also be a link with people who develop OCD and catching strep throat when younger but didn't use antibiotics to treat it. Even later in life they have a abnormally high number of strep antibodies in their system.
Not sure if flu antibodies are also the case with schizophrenia, but it could be that an excess of antibodies causes the body to attack itself, leading to these conditions. This is all still theoretical, mind you.

So while this is just supposition on my part, antibodies created in reaction to the Covid vaccine (as they are designed to do) might theoretically have an adverse effect later in life. Again, this is just a big "what if" hypothetical, but we won't be able to rule it out for several years.''

Try to keep things straight.

I'd take the shot or look for another job. Life is too short. (pun intended)

Those are literally the two choices outlined in the original meme, how clever of you.

for her own (and the baby) safety, she should move out of Portland

I've herd, pardon the pun, first hand about indivuduals who are discussing what to do. I am very sympathetic towards those who believe their lives could be be ruined by mandatory vaccines. As for myself I don't think it would be worth trying to get out of it. I'm not hugely pacifist I'm just figuring the odds. That my life will go bad if I stand up for others with like beliefs or my life will go bad if there are side effects from the vaccine.

That's the issue with scientism: the only thing that puts you in the same boat is ending-of-Titanic based. Sure you could figure out a way for both to float on the log. But you just don't want to be a jerk cause you've already said you are devoted to sonething higher besides.

You think she should risk catching a dangerous virus whilst she's pregnant?

Do you care about fetuses or not?

I would get the shot. Protect my fellow Oregonians. Thanks for asking.

How exactly is a jab that doesn't prevent you from getting or spreading it protecting anyone?

I've been asking him/her/it that same question for months now and his pat answer is that George Washington gave his troops the small pox vaccine during the Revolutionary War even though the small pox vaccine wasn't developed until 1796.

And they talk about cult members...

Also, totally figures that Aunty Thesis is from Oregon lol! It all comes together!

Nah, I think he's just speaking hypothetically. Probably from Martha's Vineyard, mommy and daddy paid for a liberal arts degree. Now he's lecturing others on rich white men like himself, how they're evil... unlike himself

The method was to scratch folks with pus from someone else's own sores. "Omg they used vaccines back then". Literally found 3 or 4 different definitions that disprove it wasn't a vaccine by definition and they still peddle that crap.

Washington inoculated his troops during a small pox outbreak. He couldn’t have vaccinated them as there was no vaccine. The process was to take pus from a small pox wound of a sick person and place it in a fresh cut of a person who wasn’t sick. Risky strategy that was unpopular and deadly and Washington had forbidden it in 1776. There is debate whether this prevented further outbreak or the outbreak had run its course and begun to taper off on its own but generally he is credited with making the bold decision. No records were kept of how many died of the innoculation or the severity or length of sickness.

Exactly, for the crowd that screams "follow the science" there's not a lot of data, but they love to quote that urban legend. All anyone really knows about this is what they've read on the internet and the tie goes to the skeptics.

It was in the middle of a war that was a fight to the death against a tangible physical threat. He made a decision to act to keep his army from disintegrating. Probably done to ease fear as much as anything. They of course will try and same it’s the same environment as now, but it’s not and we have had 250 years of science evolution since then.

Well, I wasn't there and neither were you. It's a nice story, like when he chopped down the cherry tree or threw a dollar across the Potomac and I'll remain a skeptic.

In other words, as you alluded to, the "vaccinate at any cost even against your will" crowd is using this delightful story to try to change hearts and minds. Typical psy ops propoganda.

*propaganda - time for some ice cream and then sleepy time, I'm too tired for this

Lol, 👍good night

Well, it doesn’t 100% prevent you from getting it, but it does significantly decrease your chances. But, since they now find that fully vaccinated people can carry similar amounts of the virus in their nose as unvaccinated, it show that getting that shot doesn’t protect others.

That's what I don't get. If this is SO contagious, why do they have to go way up your nose to get an accurate test. Why not just a spit sample?

Since it’s an airborne virus, maybe that’s why they don’t use saliva.

How does it get in the air without saliva?

Good question. That’s the rationale for cloth masks. Since the virus travels in droplets, masks can provide some amount of protection.

But droplets are mostly saliva, no?

Apparently not. There’s a difference between saliva in the mouth and respiratory droplets from the lungs. They actually do have saliva tests for Covid but the nasal swabs are the preferred method. Spitting is something testers try to avoid, because it can generate aerosols. And they don’t want anyone clearing their throat or coughing first because testers are looking for saliva, not mucus or phlegm from the back of the throat.

People being tested via saliva need to avoid drinking water for at least 10 minutes and not to eat or drink anything else for about 30 minutes beforehand. This is so the samples are as clean and contaminant-free as possible. Nasal swabs don’t require such prerequisites.

He’ll never answer it because there is no answer.