We need to stop doing business with the Chinese

Good for them. It sets a good example. We shall see if anyone follows. It would have been appropriate for the United States to lead on this (human rights) issue. Upvoted.

Makes sense.

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This is a suprise to see you on politics

Im always in polics

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like what (looking or actual memes here or both)

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I know but she deleted yesterday

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/2/22/china-rejects-uighurs-genocide-charge-invites-uns-rights-chief

what we need to do is stop using products that support any sort of camp

how about stop supporting China altogether

That's the only reason they are still alive

because China isn't doing it on its own, it's supported by our institutions. And the Chinese also shouldn't just take a back seat and watch, their government is responsible

You might need a $15 minimum wage if you want to live without China

Maybe you could explain how raising our wage make us more competitive with a country that uses forced labor to manufacture its goods...for us. We support China because they make things cheaper due to cheap labor. Raising our wages will make our products even more expensive, causing more companies to go elsewhere for manufacturing...China for instance.

You see all the problems but you’re afraid of all the solutions. Do you just want Americans to work dirt wages?

Americans have the highest standard of living than any other country in the world. I've been to Europe I've seen the middle class living in what we would call ghettos. I've been to Central America and seen no evidence of a middle class. And I've been to China where the great vast majority are dirt poor. And you didn't answer the question as to how making our factories less profitable having to charge higher prices makes them more competitive with China. The whole reason China is a success today is because manufacturers from across the planet have been moving there taking advantage of the low wages. That has created a problem worldwide. Raising our wages creates inflation across the board for products, services, you name it. That's not how you stop people from buying Chinese products that are cheaper. Your solution, isn't a solution. Maybe you can also address why there is an estimated 1.4 million jobs that will be lost if the minimum wage goes up to $15 versus only 1 million people getting a better standard of living. Those numbers come from the cfo. our own government is warning our government not to do this.

A 2x4 shouldn’t cost an hour of minimum wage labor. And you will never convince me otherwise. If you’ve convinced yourself that math all works, congrats your a wage slave.

"The costs of lumber have soared 3x their average costs because demand has skyrocketed and supply cant keep up."

That and this little thing called a global pandemic coupled with tariffs on lumber (much of which we get from foreign suppliers.

"How could you possibly pay more to a good employee when the materials you put in his hands costs $0.15 more every week?"

I don't know...Mr. "I want to everyone to make 15 dollars more so that the cost of goods go up making that impossible." Paying someone more means that the services or goods the employer provides because of that employee must go up to cover the additional cost...which when spread out over the entire nation and all industries, means that everyone is now paying more for goods and can't afford to pay the higher wage. My employees start at 25 an hour. They are already figuring it out, that if people working for them start making 15 an hour, then they are suddenly worth more...and they're not wrong. So now, when contracts come up, I have to adjust my costs to deal with the new wages, passing the cost on to my client, who then passes it on to the government, whom I ultimately provide services for.

"Small businesses need to be subsidized to be able to pay competitive rates or we will lose all the competent help to big box stores (who can easily pay $15 and most already do)."

Small business just need the government to get out of the way and lower the corporate tax rate. One number many didn't pay attention to when Trump passed the tax cuts, was the "average earnings" of individuals. It went up faster than ever before, with the poor benefitting the most from a percentage basis. They don't need subsidizing; but less obstructions for startups and loans. My company was technically, a small business, before the tax cuts, and grew over 60% during the last three years. Everyone's pay and bonuses have jumped accordingly....with no help from the government other than taking less money from us.

" And if minimum wage hasn't increased in 10 years... according to your logic all the prices should still be fixed to their 2011 level."

Prices aren't tied to minimum wage but overall wages. Wages have been going up faster than the minimum wage, with less percent of people making minimum wage than before, hence the inflation. The rate is steady, which keeps items affordable. It's a delicate balancing act which can be throw off by a sudden loss of money to the business sector.

Oh yeah mr Smarty Farts? What about people who are hired in 25 cents over the minimum wage? Will you deny this would be a common tactic with businesses? Is 25 cents over minimum enough to support a family? I myself don't have children, so my girlfriend and I live quite comfortably. But being a person with a developed sense of empathy and a varied life experience (lows and highs) I am okay with seeing prices increases on consumer goods if it can make the world a better place for my own friends, relatives, neighbors and fellow citizens. And your very lucky that your businesses is experiences modest success and I wish it to continue for you. You should be more willing to wish for blessings on other people.

I make a great wage, so I'm happy to have an agreement with my employer that affords my standard of living. That's what an education and a lifetime of good work ethic buys. I worked for 3.35 an hour, didn't like it, so I changed jobs. If you think working at mcdonalds is a career move, then you've failed in life, and it's not my job to supplement your failure.

The market drives costs. You should have paid better attention in school. But, on the bright side, once Home Depot and everyone down the chain starts paying a whole lot more to employee people, the price of everything will go down...wait, nope. That's not how math works. You don't like the price of goods now...just wait until everyone in the supply chain gets that raise and the costs trickle back to the consumer. The consumer always pays for these programs. It happens every damn time.

You sure are making a lot of assumptions about how I live my life: You assume I have no education or work ethic, you assume I think McDonald's is a "career move", you assume I have failed and you must supplement it.

You are incorrect on all of those.

The market does drive the costs.. duh.. saying that is like saying blood supplies oxygen to other organs.. yes correct.. duh. The costs of lumber have soared 3x their average costs because demand has skyrocketed and supply cant keep up. How is a someone who owns a home construction company supposed to ever raise wages on their own when the price of goods CONSTANTLY raises independent of wages. How could you possibly pay more to a good employee when the materials you put in his hands costs $0.15 more every week? Small businesses need to be subsidized to be able to pay competitive rates or we will lose all the competent help to big box stores (who can easily pay $15 and most already do). And if minimum wage hasn't increased in 10 years... according to your logic all the prices should still be fixed to their 2011 level.

"Oh yeah mr Smarty Farts? What about people who are hired in 25 cents over the minimum wage? Will you deny this would be a common tactic with businesses? Is 25 cents over minimum enough to support a family?"

How about, for starters, don't try to start a family if you're only making 8 dollars an hour and expecting everyone else to pay your bills?

Shoot why stop at 15, since it obviously doesn't effect anything. Let's just give everyone a 100 dollars and hour. We can just print it and everything will be fine....in La La Land.

Joe Biden is not controlled by China.
Trumps controlled by Russia, however.

I unironically think China might actually fall within the next 100 years, It can't keep getting away with all this censorship and human rights violations

and that's what always happens to China

You do have a point

"We need to stop doing business with the Chinese"

would be a blessing, but also impossible, since both of our political parties are more interested in shady money schemes than actually helping the american people

Those trump tax cuts resulted in billions of Chinese investments by American wealthy.

Good job Trumptards.

The funny thing is you still think conservative = Trump supporter every time. This meme should be one that everyone can agree on being that there are horrific acts being done to the Uyghurs, but you just had to bring your TDS as usual.

Trump DEFENSE Syndrome is real

I'm not defending Trump, I'm telling you to stop changing the subject.

It would require him to use his intelligence, something he may be lacking in.

mhm

Okay, sorry yall but as a South Korean - I have a strong hate against the Chinese and Japanese government.

I get the Chinese but why Japanese? I thought things weren’t too shabby freedom wise over there.

The Rape of Najing and the Japan Empire colonizing South Korea, and lying about everything about what they did to the Koreans.

Absolutely! Biden lacks the fortitude. Trump half assed tried and that drove WalMart and Amazon insane. If there is anything America stood for it was being against genocide and calling it out. Not acquiescing to it.

Moreeeee

*cough cough* the Chinese gave us kung fu, chinese food and many more *cough cough*

*cough cough* more of that stuff before they went communist *cough cough*

you do have a point there.

but if we don't have buisness with china, how are we gonna make tech and clothing?

Just with a Non-Communist China