Wonka After Florida Shooting

So, a liberal was sitting in a cafe when a man with an assault rifle walked in. The man pointed the rifle at the liberal's head and was about to blow his brains out, when the liberal yelled, "STOP, DON'T SHOOT THAT RIFLE THAT'S ILLEGAL!" The man then said, "You don't say" and blew his brains out.

Love this. Only contradiction to it is, you implied a Liberal had brains. Isn't it all cotton fluff?

LOL

Probably was just blood + skull fragment.

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Murders NYC 2017: Only 270 in a city of 8.5 million.

Truth.

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This is a good counter point that I didn't consider before you mentioned it, so thanks. However, I'd say it's because guns are by far the easiest deadly weapon to obtain whether legally or in the black market. Simply stated, there aren't many grenades in the world compared to guns. It would take someone an hour to buy a gun legally or illegally...but it's a much different story for someone trying to find a grenade.

Dip an M80 in glue and roll it in BB's. Not exactly a grenade, but close. I think its kind of funny that some folks think violence will end just by increasing gun control. We might start finding out how hard or easy it is to come by a hand grenade, but I doubt they'll say,
"Oh poo! They ruined our fun. Guess we'll just go home...."

Even easier to make (come by) is a molotov cocktail...where there's a will there's a way.

I get the feeling if I really wanted one and had the cash, a fair bet would be 24hrs, would be about all I needed. Google gangsters and guns, they seem to have a pretty good supply of AK47s and UZIs.

I agree. You can probably get free shipping and a kilo of fentanyl as your free gift, too.

But wait, if I act now I get free Jarts.

And a Twinkie

No thanks...I already refuted your grenade point and you said you'd explain my original meme after I did that. No need to move on to your second counter until you've done what you said you would do...

I like how you argue. There are very few that I see, that are mature about the argument. Props to you!

Do I sound like a criminal to you?

Guns are one of the harder deadly weapons to obtain. How about a knife? Apparently you can't kill a person with a knife according to anti gun people. A knife is found in kitchens, stores, scissors, anywhere. BUT knifes can't kill people, and guns are everywhere!

And guess what? Japan has outlawed guns, and they'll tell you that it doesn't stop mass killings.

Provide stats, please, You can never stop mass killing completely, but it would be a great success if the numbers would go down by a considerable percentage in the US, such as in Australia). The rest of the world just shakes their head about the US and questions themselves if America has gone totally crazy now.

So, if your argument is that less killing is better, while at the same time acknowledging that we cannot completely stop it, you get to decide who gets killed. Which schools get attacked? Which people still must die to satisfy your argument?

They don't care as long as they get to keep playing with their guns. What are the stats of people who have defended themselves against an armed assailant successfully? And do those numbers legitimize allowing people to keep guns when so many are being killed by them?

Yes, they do. Because I choose to protect myself, my family, and whoever may be in the vicinity of me, including you, should you be there.

I don't think anyone is trying to say banning guns will completely stop mass attacks. But the homicide rate is lower overall and statistically speaking, less guns = less homicides.

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Ask them. You know, in THE market central for Planet Earth.

Hell I can find a seller in an alley and get one after I hand the money over.

Yet harsher laws won't help either.

Tell that to the people in Mexico, Guatemala and El Salvador..who have the highest murder rates in the world...mostly by illegal guns.

If somebody can make background checks better while not making it more difficult for me to buy guns I would be all for it. The problems is that everyone will be regulated, even people who have never committed a crime.

Meth has never been legal, and that is not that difficult to get. How is something that there are already millions of going to be harder to get by changing legislation?

The only people legislation will effect are those who follow the law. That is the definition of a criminal, and that is who will begin to thrive, the criminals.

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Whereas in Sweden where it is more difficult to get firearms there have been 139 Hand Grenade attacks in the last three years.

So supporting a firearms ban is actually supporting hand grenade violence..

Thankfully he didn't kill anyone with them

Well, guns are easier to use, and are cheaper. I don't know this from the type of experience that you are thinking of, but think about it, there are gun stores everywhere. Also, all that you have to do is buy one gun that is re-usable, and just buy a ton of bullets. With a hand grenade, every time you use it, you have to get a new one, which is pretty expensive. So now you know why guns are used more often that hand grenades. P.S Liberal stations would rather report a gun shooting than an attack with a hand-grenade because they want to get rid of guns, so that is another reason why you don't hear about hand grenade shootings.

I just realized I said HAND GRENADE shootings. HAHAHA! I meant to say killings.

We enacted restrictions before hand grenades were widely produced in America. If we had restrictions on semi-auto guns fairly soon after they were invented, not very many people would have them.

Ever heard of the black market? Also, one other point: a hand grenade is really loud, bright, and kicks up a lot of debris, so people will spot the murderer easier. With a gun, you can buy a silencer, which will make the gun shot almost noticeable. Also, a gun is easier less noticeable. Also, hand grenades are not restricted, but are just strictly regulated. Next, one does not require a hand grenade when they go hunting, and when they are defending their home, that would just be quite ridiculous. The government has made a lot of different drugs illeagal, but people still get them. Have you heard about when the government made alcohol illegal? Well, if you haven't, alcohol usage was at it's highest peak during that period of time. People can bribe politicians, smuggle, and use the black market in order to get stuff that is illegal. Next, criminals WILL NOT OBEY THE LAW! That is quite obvious. So even if America successfully makes guns illegal, criminals will not obey the law. Last, but certainly not least, even if America successfully exterminates the usage of guns throughout the USA, criminals will find other ways to kill. They can use complicated weapons that technically are not illegal, use bombs (if, in this alternate universe, the USA does not successfully exterminate the usage of bombs), knives (which are in almost every American home), chemicals, psychology, their own body, fires, and other such things. They will always find a way to kill. Guns have not been around for all of recorded history, but before that, people killed just as many other people using swords, singing cities,

Sorry, I accidentally pressed post comment when I was not finished: using stones, fires, their bodies, sticks, throwing them off cliffs, burning them alive, stretching their body apart, trampling their body, you get the idea. The american people need guns in order to defend themselves. Hitler himself tried to make guns illegal, and do you know why? So the Jews would not be able to defend themselves.

Silencers do almost nothing to silence a gun. That's all I'm going to say because that's all I currently have time for.

Grenades are a lot louder though, you can't ignore that fact.

They are, but there's a reason every school shooter is accounted for.

What do you mean by "accounted for"?

We know who they are.

Oh, you mean every school shooter gets punished by the government. Thank you captain obvious! Of course it is illegal to shoot up a school, or kill someone, but you can't make guns illegal so people can protect themselves.

My point is, they were noticed, even without using a hand grenade.

Yes thank you again Captain Obvious! Of course anybody that kills people inside of a school, and affects dozens of families would, and should get noticed, but, that does not mean guns should be banned. Your point at the beginning was that you wanted guns to be banned, now you are just saying that people who kill other people will be noticed. That is quite obvious. It is easier to get away with killing someone with a gun, then a hand grenade, because of the points I stated earlier. Also, like I stated earlier, CRIMINALS WILL NOT OBEY THE LAW AND PEOPLE NEED TO DEFEND THEMSELVES AGAINST CRIMINALS WHO DO NOT OBEY THE LAW GET THAT INTO THAT THICK SKULL OF YOURS!

I'm confused. I thought YOU wanted to ban guns. The point I was trying to make at the top was it's too late to enact restrictions.

What, you thought I wanted to ban guns? The way you were arguing earlier, it sounded like YOU wanted to ban guns. Sorry for the confusion. Well, at least we both agree that we want to keep our guns.

But they are easier to DIY.

That's true, but making a DIY hand grenade would be difficult to get instructions for. Try typing into Google "how to make an explosive device capable of killing more than freaking mustard gas" and see how it turns out.

A hand grenade is an explosive charge inside a metal surround. When the charge is detonated, the explosive force creates shrapnel. That's oversimplified, but as long as you're not expecting to look like something on pinterest, an effective, basic device is not difficult to construct. You don't need instructions.

True.