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The greatest danger to this country is not putting Biden under the same microscope.

The greatest danger to this country is putting Biden under a microscope while ignoring that which doesn't need one - Trump.

Why not both?

The thing is, that's what happens in a democracy. So it's really not a danger to democracy. We are a Constitutional Republic, which is to be a check on democracy. This shit isn't supposed to happen when the Constitution is followed properly. The real danger to the Republic is when public servants shit on our Constitution.

Well said . . . and true.

You mean the one trump wanted to rip up?

Have we crossed the Rubicon yet? This will be a defining moment in American history. If Trump is prosecuted and found guilty on these flimsy charges, all those who want to overthrow American democracy will have won. Both Democrats and Republicans need to stand up to this tyranny.

At some point you're really just going to have to accept that you've thrown your lot in with a stupid criminal - both Democrats and Republicans should be standing up for the rule of law, but for some reason, a sizeable percentage of the latter are so enamored with their cult of personality that they'll happily piss on the constitution to put the idiot in power to attack those they see as their enemies.

“As president, I could have declassified, but now I can’t,”

“Secret. This is secret information. Look, look at this, this was done by the military and given to me.”

“Well, with Milley – uh, let me see that, I’ll show you an example. He said that I wanted to attack Iran. Isn’t that amazing? I have a big pile of papers, this thing just came up. Look. This was him, they presented me this – this is off the record, but – they presented me this. This was him. This was the Defense Department and him. We looked at some. This was him. This wasn’t done by me, this was him.”

“All sorts of stuff – pages long, look. Wait a minute, let’s see here. I just found, isn’t that amazing? This totally wins my case, you know. Except it is like, highly confidential. Secret. This is secret information. Look, look at this.”

You are mistaken. I would never vote for Trump. Those in power are the ones threatening Democracy. I want to have the right to vote against Trump. DOJ should not be weaponized to do the bidding of the political elite. I am a Democrat and I'm voting for Kennedy in the primary. Maybe he will be able to take back the Democratic Party for the people.

Holding a stupid criminal accountable for his crimes is not the threat to democracy - abandoning the rule of law because the stupid criminal has been president and wants to be again is however a clear and present danger.

How many times have they tried to "get" Trump so far? I'm losing count. I see the corruption within my own party. Why can't you see it? Sure, the Republicans are corrupt too, but they are not in power.

So you are saying the US justice system doesn't work or that it does work? You can't have it both ways. A two-tiered justice system is no justice system at all.

First image is as question asked by the right. Second panel is people correcting the question

"They" (the prosecutors) have never tried to "get" Trump - they've just done their jobs in providing the copious amounts of evidence of his wrongdoing to grand juries who in turn did their jobs indicting the dumb criminal.

You see, this isn't about parties at all, just the rule of law.

So you are OK with impeaching Biden if he is found guilty of corruption? Correct? It's about the rule of law?

Impeach all you like.

I'll let the Senate decide if what he's done is worthy of indictment.
Just like it did with Trump :D

Complete non-sequitur, but yeah - if Biden committed high crimes and misdemeanors, impeach away and throw his ass out of office.

Moreover, if he was found to have committed actual crimes, as has been the case with Trump all along, he should be tried in court criminally as well - president or not.

Trump was never convicted. Impeachment, sexual harrasment, Bragg Investigation, etc. all turned up nothing. Trump is a liar and an a-hole, but he's not a criminal. The classified document charge is very small even if he is guilty.

Impeachment is congressional approval to begin the judicial proceedings to hold him up for trial. Trump was impeached twice, but acquitted both times with all democrats voting yes and some republicans voting yes every time. Needs to be a 2/3rds vote to indict....

Good luck getting 16% of Democrats to agree to indicting Biden.
Then again, Republicans wanted to indict Clinton for getting a bl***ob in the oval office, but after two separate impeachements, one about inciting an attack on the capitol, and one about extortion to another country... nope, those are all offenses not worthy of impeachment, evidence be damned.

Outside of impeachment which is a legislative, not judicial process, he'd never been indicted until two months ago.

His organization, it's CFO, his personal fixer, and dozens of his henchmen have been convicted in courts of law - he was even a known party to Cohen's crime (remember Individual #1?), and they've all acted on his orders, so yeah - he's a criminal.

Using the law to persecute a political rival is dangerous. This could be the end of the American experiment with democracy. When the bar is lowered there is nothing stopping the Republicans from doing the same thing. Violence will follow just like in the 3rd world.

So what is he being indicted for? Mishandling classified documents? Exactly what did he do?

If that were what's happening, you might have a point, but prosecution for lawlessness is not political persecution - it's just being held accountable by the law.

31 counts of willful retention of classified documents
1 count of conspiracy to obstruct justice
1 count of withholding a document or record
1 count of corruptly concealing a document or record
1 count of concealing a document in a federal investigation
1 count of scheme to conceal
1 count of making false statements and representations.

This will be just another nothing burger like all the other times. This will only make Trump more popular, and I'll have to hear even more of Trump's narcissistic ramblings in the media.

👍👍👏 Trump's big mouth will prove to be his own worst enemy.

Always has been.

Even greater threat: when the political persecution is coming from a fraudulent administration.

*correction* - "Subverting the law to prosecute your political rivals"

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Yup... 2 bogus impeachments... and endless investigations...

Just to be accurate, the Senate votes on impeachments, not the House. The House presents "Articles of Impeachment", which are the accusations, while the Senate votes whether or not to impeach the President. Both attempts the Senate voted "No" on impeaching Trump, so Trump was never impeached.

Yes... the first one they based on the Clinton paid-for dossier... and the second on the Biden Ukraine bribe...

I’m beginning to read the indictment against Trump. But even three pages in, it’s clear that the leaks that preceded the indictment are far too close to what is actually being pleaded by DOJ to be a coincidence.

For example, in paragraph 6a on page 3, we hear about the recording of the Bedminster call, which the MSNBC’s of the world have been beating a dead horse about for quite a while based on such leaks.

This means that Trump's lawyers could not possibly be the source of the leaks.

Ergo, the leaks are coming from DOJ. They must be investigated and punished.

Also, this is grounds for granting a motion highlighting jury pool poisoning and dismissing the indictment before it reaches even its one-month birthday.

All of this is so outrageous; it shocks the conscience. It’s fundamentally anti-American.

Looking for your law degree....

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All those "lock her up" chants were, what?

If they weren't calling for exactly what you're condemning in this post, then what were they?

The "lock her up" crowd really can't seem to take what they dish out.

You seem to have talked a lot about "using the law to prosecute political rivals".....and "the DOJ should not be weaponized".... "He's like Hitler" .... "Tyranny".... "I see the corruption" .... and so forth.

So ok... where did/do you see it?

I mean do you know of any actual evidence of Biden being the driving force behind a single investigation into trump or that it was politically motivated?

For example.... when they investigated Benghazi/ Hillary Clinton ~10 times and Kevin McCarthy (the current Republican Speaker of the House), came out on live TV and said "Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her [polling] numbers today? Dropping.."

Does anything similar to that^ actually exist from Biden regarding trump and investigations into him ?

Or is what you are saying more based on the mere existence of investigations? or what?

Not surprised.

Me neither.

Biden isn't the driving force behind anything. He can't even read a teleprompter. Biden is just a stooge. I don't trust any new source. I watch CNN, Fox, etc., and try to put a story together with common sense. The Hill/Rising is the best news source I've found so far. Trump has constantly been under investigation since he was elected President. Investigations into Biden and Hunter Biden have been repressed. The pattern is clear.

Ok so it sounds like for you, the existence of investigations into Trump themselves are the proof of the Hitler-esque tyranny. The investigations he has been under are not legit, they have no merit, and they are essentially the "witch hunt" that he says they are, right?

So this makes me further wonder:

Do you think that his charity, the Trump Foundation, was wrongfully shut down?

Trump University? Also shut down over fake news?

Or the Trump Organization which was found guilty of criminal Tax Fraud last year.... ?Complete political fabrication?

When trump agreed to pay $750,000 to settle allegations that the trump inaugural committee overpaid for events at his own hotel and enriched his own family in the process.... Witch hunt? Totally out of character for him to do something like that?

The people around trump who have been found guilty of various crimes.... also part of the witch hunt? For example Rudy Giuliani , former mayor and the son of a man convicted of armed robbery, recently had his law license suspended for lying in court... Because Biden and/or his administration is Hitler or what?

My point is basically that you should expect a life long liar/con artist and his circle to be under investigation. Sometimes being found guilty, sometimes not, and sometimes paying people off to make the lawsuit go away. Which is what we're seeing.

Hunter Biden is no saint either and clearly has a history of drug use. You'd also expect investigations around him. Who is allegedly suppressing investigations into him if Biden isn't the driving force though? A vague group of democrats you can't name? Soros?

I'm still not convinced trump will be going to jail but that fake slates of electors scheme was wiiiild.... I mean if people can go to prison over 1 false vote, I would think someone could definitely go for an entire state's electoral votes (or conspiracy to attempt that).... The Georgia phone call of him was another interesting one. If Biden had done that people would be sh*tting bricks, flipping tables, and endlessly memeing about it.

Maybe he hasn't been the target of a 'deep state conspiracy' and he's actually a criminal?

He ran a "university" that was actually a fraud.

He is banned from running a charity in the state of New York because his charity was a fraud.

He took and concealed national defense top secret stuff AND ADMITTED IT ON TV SEVERAL TIMES.

What are the odds that he's not actually a criminal (despite all those fraud cases) and is instead the target of a 'vast deep state conspiracy'?

Repressed or found to be of little value/concern?