Ok, so… Consistency is not their Strong Suit

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F Peace! They are resolved to fight to the last Ukranian or the last American dollar whichever comes first.

Oh and they have the trans pride flag right,... oops, I mean over it.

Good luck trying to negotiate peace during an actual invasion.

Weapons are a leveraging tool, not a means to an end. They don’t make lasting peace but they’re a good tools to hold your own until negotiation is back on the table.

The problem is the right continues to conflate gun regulation as a ban on all guns.

We do ban types of guns, a thoroughly unremarkable compromise to not regulating gun sales like one might a car or a house. Arguably two things more important than a gun unless you’re a hunter who needs to live on the land or you live in a crime invested neighborhood. Still would rather have a car than a gun for the latter but I digress.

We wouldn’t need to ban any type of guns or have regulations to manufacturers beyond guns being functional rather than minimizing how many people they can kill, if we regulated them.

Maybe not to the point where you have to renew your license at the DMV-like DFA… I get not wanting to go through that personal hell. I really do. I wouldn’t want to with my guns.

But then again, I do support arming a country under invasion. I’m totally disgusted that there are people who think Ukraine, and the US, should be kowtowing to Russia at all. They have no defensible reason to be in Ukraine. None! Zip! Nada!

And if you support Ukraine laying down and rolling over than that slippery slope will continue to carry when either Russia, or China, or any other country thinking they could do that to us.

Or are we the only country deserving of help when we desired Independence?

Without France, Spain, and the Dutch Republic we’d still be a UK territory. We would likely be a set of proxy territories by European nations. And while they did it for their own personal agendas, in the long run, independence is almost always a more economic and cultural beneficial conclusion!

Especially when a superpower spreads itself out too thin. That’s why the UK lost the American Revolution. That’s why Germany lost the Second World War. That’s why we lost all our proxy wars. That’s why the Soviet Union lost the Cold War. It grew too big to hold onto what became eventually independent countries.

The only reason why Russia wants unification it thinks it will be an economic boon! And because they can’t buy off it’s neighbors anymore without violent repercussions from the local population.

👍yeah, children aren't reading that...

😂 no one’s reading all that

Glad you’ve given up arguing against my facts. Your persistent ad homenims and strawman were weak responses anyway. Assuming you had anything of merit to say, which usually you didn’t.

Your leftist narrative propaganda isn’t exactly facts and obviously it’s tiresome to interact with a blowhard that thinks if you type more words you win.

If they aren’t facts, then prove me wrong with facts.

You can’t because I am stating facts.

Your opinion is not fact lefty. That’s the mistake you always make. Like men can’t be women, that’s a fact.

Of course my opinions aren’t facts. That would be ludicrous for anyone to think so.

But I rarely ever state my opinions.

Not sure what that fact has to do with my on topic statements.

What I actually stated was:

The right tends to conflate gun control and gun bans, fact.

Weapons aren’t for peace, as the OP states, but necessary for holding out until peace is an option.

The US ban types of guns, fact.

We wouldn’t need to if there were more regulation. This is an opinion but an objective one. Would the left do this? Skeptical. Too many have stated that getting rid of all guns is the way to go. What the Democrats have opted for is pushing for regulation rather than an outright ban because not only do they not have the political means to do it but the legislation would be immediately challenged as unconstitutional by the courts and rightly so!

I do support arming Ukraine is an opinion.

Russia having no defensible reason to be there is a fact.

Believing independent nations should not be invaded by warmongerers is an opinion.

Objectively tho, invading a country that doesn’t want you to “liberate” them has been historically bad. I listed a few.

I also said the United States wouldn’t exist without Allie’s during the American Revolution. This is a fact.

As is superpowers spreading themselves our too thin results in loss of power not gain going by history.

I also gave some reasons why Russia would want to reunify, even by force, with Ukraine. This is neither fact nor opinion but this is mere speculation as Russia hasn’t really given a good reason beyond they want less NATO influence and Nazis. I’m not convinced this is their true objective.

But please, Bluessol. Enlighten me, and be sure to tell me where my facts are wrong.

Keep writing your soliloquies Plato. I’ll get around to reading it later.

You unwittingly complimented me. Thank you. Though, I’m sure you’re being extremely sarcastic on two fronts, I’ll go ahead and take the compliment since you’re not bothering to read my messages anyway.

You take the laughs where you can get them. Enjoy

They want guns only on the bad people

We had no war with the Soviet Union.

As is China. But we are not sending troops to die there.

check the people in both my comments above my friend,and you will understand i am honoring you.

Cold War was build up but not soldier deaths

That’s a pretty whitewashed rewriting of Soviet-US relations.

Are you excluding the brush-fire wars? If so, then the US casualties in Korea and Vietnam count, as well as numerous smaller conflicts like Granada, Dominican Republic and Lebanon.

Must they be soldiers, or do Marines, Sailors and Airmen count? What about other US Government employees, like Embassy personnel, CIA, DIA, Pacific Corporation? How about surrogate forces working on the US behalf?

If you count all of them then something near 100,000.

But if we are juuust counting military personnel from Soviet-US direct conflicts, then about 382.

http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=26707&article_id=264913&view=articleBrowser

How much money was spent fighting The cold war? It's the reason why the Soviet union collapsed.

No one is Putins Lackeys but the weak Biden administration and his forever war promoters hope to profit for a long time

No one is Putin's lackeys? Do you guys make up stuff as you go?

Anyone who believes our government always tells the truth and is always right is an idiot. Since when were democrats the party of, the government is always right and you need to do what it says and believe everything it tells you? Oh yeah since the cabal worked together to ensure a proper election outcome.

Hmm, Why do you always come off like a recorded speech from 1930's Germany ?

Why is that?

Ironic that those who act the most like Nazis claim everyone else is. In Nazi Germany you weren’t allowed to disagree with the state and their final solutions either. Just like how Democraps want it now. Nothing less American than that.

Yeah, it is, innit?

You should look up what you're talking about first, starting with the exact name on their emblem in your pic for starters, as they're even closer to the origins,,,

The name means nothing if the actions and modus operandi are the same. You should look past the labels, but that would destroy your entire system of labeling in a sad attempt to discredit reality and promote identity based justification for evil.

So a gaggle of monotonal low brow goosesteppers working on behalf of a brutally oppressive racist dictator who fancies himself a messiah for the hateful
vs
A decentralized bunch of collegiate dweebs with no leaders nor any centralization whose goal is to counter Far Right neo-Fascists?

Yup, I can't tell them apart either!

Your projecting.
Can you list qualities that MAGA provide to proves otherwise without furthering projection ?

MAGA, as you call anyone who isn’t a leftist shreiker, is American values that are the antithesis of tyrants and hate mongers. Supporters of the constitution and its amendments.

So no redeeming qualities to mention

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Of course,you hate America so you wouldn’t consider loving it a quality of any kind. American Values are the only redeeming qualities necessary. Americans fought Nazis and Communists and still despise both, excepting of course the Democrap traitors and the third Obama administration.

And yet you hate bud light and I don't care

America only joined the war (WW2) after Pearl Harbour. Up until that point America didn't care about Europe and Hitler

Actually, the war profiteers are the ones that are angry. See, the US sells tons of our weapons and military vehicles to usually the highest bidder. Even at war time.

The real reason why those manufacturers and the greedy politicians in congress, mostly Republican, is because Ukraine isn’t paying for them as much as they could be purchased.

If you want the US to stop profiting off of military supplies maybe stop voting in Republicans who make sure to divert more than half our budget to that.

Or hey, maybe you understand why that actually happens, like myself, and are okay with that. Because the longer we continue to upgrade new technologies and make sure those who serve her the best tools, it’s no scratch off my nose if we sell out military supplies.

That’s why we don’t really care about leaving our shit behind in Afghanistan. They repurpose it to attack us? By then we’ll have newer and better toys to keep them down.

Trump Supporters ought to stick to conservative and Republican politics. They really sound moronic when they try to pretend to be liberals. Assuming they’re even pretending.

Sure, no one’s profiting off the war😂. That never happens🤣. Possibly one of your most ignorant statements ever and that hard to do.

It would be if I said that but I didn’t. You must’ve imagined it.

I never said they’re not profiting, I said they’re not getting as much as they would be getting if we resumed selling to the highest bidder.

You, apparently, would rather they profit not at all like some commie leftist.

A commie leftist would expect them to make no profit I’m ok with them making less profit off of civil war. Except there is no proof they are making less or taking loss just your twisted logic or some other blowhards lie.

Facts aren’t lies just because you don’t like them.

I’ll admit, it’s stretching credulity to say they’re making less of a profit. It’s more a risky investment that could see huge loses but only if Ukraine loses.

Ukraine is building debt with the US the more weapons we send. It may take decades for them to pay that off. But that will be meaningless if they lose so many are advocating to cut our loses now rather than participate in the risk.

That’s a closer assessment of the situation.

Ssshhh, you don't want to be on that list with me