Follow the money... every time...

Then I've got to deal with the twits at work who worship 'balance'. Balance is everything, over truth. They don't want to even hear truth or facts if it comes from Fox or a similar conservative outlet. And then they'll say "Well Republican... Democrat.... They're really all the same". And I'm like, "No, you dummies. You're obviously not paying attention because if you paid attention at all to what the parties stand for you would know they're worlds apart.

Exactly. They are like getting a choice between being shot in the leg or the head.

Whose son fights thier wars for them?

https://youtu.be/ZWijx_AgPiA

Look out..you spelled "their" wrong. Look out, a certian memer is going to giggle at you.

How about the hysterical laughter that I just can't stop

And yet i left "CERTAIN" on the CARVING BOARD for you, and you chose the all you can eat salad!!!

So what exactly are you laughing at, oh one who has ever really not said anything?

They are laughing at the state of modern education

I find TDS uproariously funny

Ues laugh at your own illness. Laughter is the best meds.

Your mentioning trump or tds was the first of the thread.....FYI....

Unless of course you are agreeing with the mentioning of NFTs as a means to fraud.

Pleasedontcrybaby is nothing but a provocateur...no real value....just harrasment.

You are mentiong....not quite right bucko.

Your, as it is your mention. IT IS His mentioning. He has possesion of the mentioning....brain surgeon.

Now, take your harrasment and kindly ....

Have a good day. Stay in school bucko.

OK. So why should Russia get to take it over?

Why did 0bama orchestrate a coup there?

Didn't. Thanks for playing.

LOL.. IKR

Lies.

If you trust those "fact checkers", then you are blind. I'm not saying they're wrong in this case, but as a general rule PL, it's best to check the fact checkers, IF you really want the truth.

Some people don't know where the funding for those "fact checkers" comes from...

The funding is one aspect of it. No doubt about that. The mere fact that nobody fact checks the fact checkers, who are usually rabid, frothing, liberals, is enough for me to ignore them completely.

"House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s son Paul Pelosi Jr. visited Ukraine in 2017 to meet with government officials in connection to a business initiative. Now, unearthed records reveal that Paul Pelosi Jr. was an executive of a gas industry company that did business in Ukraine – and his mother Nancy Pelosi was featured in one of the company’s promotional videos.

Nancy Pelosi's son Paul Pelosi Jr. (who went to Ukraine in 2017) was a board member of Viscoil and executive at its related company NRGLab, which DID ENERGY Business in UKRAINE!

And Nancy Pelosi appeared in a promotional video for the company!"

yup lies... LOL

He often posts lies. He doesn't care about what's true

Ironic...

It’s almost as if they can’t remember what they post from one hour to the next

Yeah, that's how it is when folks see issues through the prism of expedience instead basing their viewpoints on philosophical beliefs founded out of a strong set of values.

Good one, yolo!

Eh... It was lazy. I was debating between that meme and something relating to "the emperor wears no clothes". I think in that story they said if you don't see it (the clothing), you're dumb or something to that effect though. Idk.

We are giving them a bunch of money .. but that sh*t about the people on boards of directors..... Idk about that. They must be secretly on the boards? and I must be blind.

I think in that story, the people are afraid to say anything bc it's the emperor. Maybe those who wanted to keep them silent said they were dumb or something like that. It's been a long time since I had any contact with that story. Anyway, I don't know if you're blind or not on this issue. If what the meme says is true, then we're all blind. But usually every time somebody posts something like that, there are multiple people saying it's not true, or that it's been 'fact checked'. Hell, I'd trust the people here on imgflip more than I would actual 'fact checkers'! And I'm not interested enough in the issue to do any digging myself. So for me, I'll roll with blissfully ignorant (for now at least.)

I would definitely not trust anyone nor any meme here more than actual fact checkers........or even basic news articles. But that's just me. I understand there have been many news articles disproven... but considering how many different news articles there are daily nationwide , the amount of fake news I have seen does not seem like a very high percentage.. at least compared to the amount of BS I see here on a day to day basis. And the OP meme is no exception.

Far as I can tell there is only 1 out of the 4 sons that even halfway checks out and that is Hunter Biden. Yes, he was on an energy company board of directors (Burisma). Yes, they were doing business in Ukraine. but.... Keyword being: "WAS"...... Far as I know he hasn't been on that board for years. So the strongest (only?) link of the 4 doesn't even seem to have a timeline that matches up.

So ya .... IF Ukraine Aid money currently being sent is being funneled to Hunter Biden (or any of the other sons mentioned), it isn't through the board of directors of energy companies doing business in Ukraine.

Sidenote- Hunter Biden would have to have an enormous set of balls, be cracked out of his mind, or both to be doing what the OP is implying while already being currently under investigation by the Feds for tax stuff and gun purchases. I guess to be fair, his dad has the power of presidential pardon.

And to circle back to Emperor/Clothes... I think I actually have an old copy of a kid version of that book somewhere. Maybe I'll try to dig it up.

"I would definitely not trust anyone nor any meme here more than actual fact checkers."

Here's the thing about that, yolo; the people here on imgflip, while not indoctrinated into liberal ideology by obtaining a journalism degree, are just as qualified (and some are probably more qualified, assuming they have a reasonable intellect and can be objective) than almost all of the 'fact checkers' that work for rags like the NY Times or the WA Post, because in reality all the fact checkers do is decide whether or not what they're checking fits their narrative. If it does, it's 'fact checked' as true, and if it doesn't, it's labeled false. In cases when they're 'fact checking' anything related to politics, it's that simple.

As for basic news articles, I've read enough of them in my lifetime to know the code-speak for when they're telling us something that is not verified. When you see "it's been reported that...", or "according to reports", or "sources have confirmed", and that last one is my favorite, because when they don't let us know their source, it could be their pet dog for all we know. When you learn to spot these things, I think you'll discover there's a lot more fake news than you thought.

So for now, journalism is dead in this country. Well, not completely dead. A guy like Taibi, who I respected long before the Twitter files came out, in spite of fundamental political differences, is still a respectable journalist, imo.

Getting back to the meme, I only know about Hunter, not the others. And we all need to ask ourselves, why was he on the board of Burisma? What did he do to earn the huge $$ they paid him? It certainly had nothing to do with his wealth of knowledge of the business they're in. It doesn't take a journalism degree to know when something smells rotten. And when the left and the govt suppresses a story like they did about the laptop, things smell more than rotten. What happened to the left in this country that they now not only tolerate censorship, they're all for it?

Hunter is a drug addict, so by definition he's out of his mind. If not on drugs, would he have left that laptop at a repair shop? He probably has no memory of dropping it off.

Your average user#Xyz-27 here may or may not be qualified for anything. With the technology we have now, it seems possible that some of the users here are not even human (let alone American). This is an anonymous meme website. And there is no monetary or real world consequences for constantly posting absolute bullsh*t here. If Rachel Maddow constantly reported easily verifiable blatant falsehoods and never bothered even trying to correct them, there would eventually be monetary consequences for her. Her name and face being public have some degree of accountability that go along with it. They (or their network anyway) could be fined/fired/sued.... and assuming their viewers care, they would eventually begin tuning out.

This website clearly has none of that. You could go on and on proclaiming the vaccine is magnetizing people, or is 98% Graphene Oxide, or whatever you want all day. Nothing will happen. I don't think that works for journalists.

The things you consider red flags ("it has been reported that" and such) also don't really exist here. There is no labeling "Opinion", "Editorial", etc either .... Because this is all basically opinion here. Without any news sources backing you up, you're memeing and commenting your opinion. And it might not even be "yours" considering content here often is literally copied from Twitter.

There is a difference between saying something "smells rotten" with Hunter Biden/his past connection to Burisma..... and implying that Hunter Biden (and 3 other politician's sons) is/are currently being funnelled US aid money intended to help Ukraine. The first thing is not necessarily evidence of the second.

In any case, you clearly do believe the media (or some of it anyway.. I guess Tiabi for one) because without them, you would not be talking about any Hunter Biden laptop story. I'm pretty sure I've already discussed that story with you though and I'm not exactly surprised various news organizations and the govt initially questioned it's legitimacy.

"Hunter is a drug addict...If not on drugs, would he have left that laptop at a repair shop?"

The laptop was dropped off ~3 years ago. That is not necessarily evidence that he is still currently addicted to drugs.

"Your average user#Xyz-27 here may or may not be qualified for anything."

100% correct. We finally found something we can agree on!

"With the technology we have now, it seems possible that some of the users here are not even human (let alone American)."

Were I a lefty snowflake, I might take offense to the tone of the "let alone American" part of this. But on the whole, you're likely correct about the human part.

"This is an anonymous meme website. And there is no monetary or real world consequences for constantly posting absolute bullsh*t here."

But there are monetary benefits for some. Check out slobama, for instance. He's admitted to being a paid shill.

"f Rachel Maddow constantly reported easily verifiable blatant falsehoods and never bothered even trying to correct them, there would eventually be monetary consequences for her."

Here's where we have come to a fork in the road. How many times did she have that lying weasel Schiff on her show, and she never challenged him on his lies about having proof of Trump / Russia collusion? The answer is easy. She never did. And I bet she's making as much money now as she ever has.

"Her name and face being public have some degree of accountability that go along with it. "

Yeah, except not by MSNBC, not by other media, and not by the public who have the same political views that you do.

"They (or their network anyway) could be fined/fired/sued."

Nothing personal here yolo, but the further into this I get, the more I feel like I'm being trolled.

"The things you consider red flags ("it has been reported that" and such) also don't really exist here."

Okay, the trolling has stopped! I wasn't saying those things happened here. I was bringing that up to point out how deceitful the media are, right to our faces.

"...without them, you would not be talking about any Hunter Biden laptop story."

The media has buried this story, even after some of them have admitted they were wrong. It's as buried as the Twitter files are. Why? It makes them look bad, like 1A suppressing fascists that they are.

"The laptop was dropped off ~3 years ago. That is not necessarily evidence that he is still currently addicted to drugs."

He may not be in the depths of drug use at the moment, but he's still a drug addict, and I believe at the time it was dropped off, he was in the depths. He's not completely stupid, so what other explanation is there?

I say "let alone American" because it's hard for me to believe that some here are ...and there have definitely been foreign bots found in other websites. (Twitter, Facebook) ....Maybe this one just flies under the radar idk.

Maybe Slobama was f*ckin with you when they said that idk... I can't speak to it much because I didn't see it happen and idk context.. who knows.. it's the Internet. In any case, if true, I mean... I would tend to assume you think it IS true. They're a paid shill and therefore full of sh*t. It's kind of like you believe them (about that), therefore you don't believe them. If that makes sense.

But......... If he/they/idk is actually paid to lie or whatever you think they're doing, that would theoretically not really contribute to the overall concept of trusting people here more than fact checkers. It would seem to do the opposite. If what they said is true and you believe it is true, then who's to say there aren't more paid shills like that here (on either side) ?

Tbh I don't watch Rachel Maddow so I don't know about all the times she was talking to Schiff nor what was or wasn't said. I just know about her because one of the users here is always ranting about her. I watched her entire show once just to see what all the fuss was about. Eh.. idk. I don't really remember it, I just remember doing that.

Fired / fined /sued wasn't meant as a troll. For example Dominion is suing Fox News for over a billion dollars for voting machine claims. They might lose or win the lawsuit but I tend to imagine people on Fox News do a little bit more homework now before they say anything more about voting machines......... I'm not sure a defamation lawsuit like that would work on a meme website though so that mechanism/ motivation for making accurate claims isn't really found here.

I understand you didn't mean those red flags in that way but I thought on some level they helped my point. And speaking of which . "It makes them [the media] look bad" is kind of another one like that.... I'm not sure people here care much about looking bad (who even knows who anyone here is)... Which would make it more of a motivating factor to be truthful for the news, but maybe not so much here.

Sounds like you're saying once a drug addict, always a drug addict?

"Maybe Slobama was f*ckin with you when they said that idk... "

I thought so at first, and maybe I just fell for it, but he said it to multiple others as well. So I'm inclined to believe it. But I'm naturally skeptical, so I'm not 100% convinced. I hope that addresses the rest of what you said in that paragraph.

That next paragraph is pretty good (if convoluted, and believe me, as a writer of convolution I can spot it when I see it!) Although I tend not to project to an entire group based on one individual. I'm going to stick by my claim, which is pretty straight forward. And that is that imo, people on imgflip (and I'll throw in that I believe this, regardless of political affiliation) are just as qualified to fact check as the so-called fact checkers. I really view 'professional' fact-checkers as paid shills. They are pretty low on my credibility scale, that's for sure.

If you watched an entire Maddow show, then you've watched at least twice as much of her as I have. Please believe me yolo, I try to understand the other side, but watching her is pretty frustrating, so I had to stop after about half an hour.

"I'm not sure people here care much about looking bad"

The thing about this, imo, is that as near as I can tell, lib political leaders absolutely do not care about looking like utter hypocrites, or liars, or any of the things that sane people would be concerned about. They probably figure the public has a very short attention span, which we do. Combine that with all politicians having a severe thirst for power, and there you go. They'll say or do anything to get political power.

"Sounds like you're saying once a drug addict, always a drug addict?"

Yes, but only in the same sense as my understanding of the 'once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic' concept. By that I mean even if someone is clean (or sober) for years, they're one mistake away from being right back in that hole.

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Yes it is boring.