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7 ups, 3y,
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The 2020 presidential election would have you believe that there are 81,268,924 but we all know that's complete BS. In actuality there are only about 1,000 of them left. There used to be more but they keep killing their babies and their numbers just keep dropping.
6 ups, 3y
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1 up, 3y,
1 reply
So you think only 1,000 people voted for Joe Biden? Your math is way off
1 up, 3y,
1 reply
Nah. I don't believe 1,000 people were that stupid. It was more like 30.
1 up, 3y,
1 reply
Whatever you need to tell yourself to feel better
1 up, 3y,
1 reply
Now that I have you permission, I feel much better now. In fact I feel great because truth is on my side.
1 up, 3y
"Only 30 people voted for Biden"
"Truth is on my side"

Okay
7 ups, 3y,
2 replies
These idiots will be totally destroyed (for good) on 8 November 2022. Can’t wait!
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
wait rly
2 ups, 3y,
1 reply
No, we didn't fix the voting so its not going to happen.
0 ups, 3y
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
2 ups, 3y
Like they were totally destroyed for good November 8, 2016? November 6, 2018? November 3, 2020?

Maybe elections don’t destroy people.

Maybe they’re just majorities deciding representation.
5 ups, 3y,
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5 ups, 3y,
1 reply
2 ups, 3y,
2 replies
Not all trans are born biological male. That’s why.

Less than 5% of transwomen even ask about a uterine transplant when considering surgical transitioning. And only 25% of transwomen even get gender reassignment surgery (not just breast implants). So about 1.25% of less than a million Americans. Or about 12,500 people.

But! Of the million trangender Americans living in the country, at least half of them were born biologically women.

So roughly 500,000 transmen are either capable of giving birth; and are very interested in the abortion debate since they are very unlikely to want to purposely get pregnant. And are most likely victims of rape when they do.
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0 ups, 3y,
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1 up, 3y,
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You missed my point entirely.

Your question is invalid because it is based on a strawman.

The issue is about transmen getting abortion access, not transwomen.
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
Abortion is murder even in women who think they are men. But what is happening is some men who think they are women want to have a uterus transplant so they can get pregnant and that was who I was always talking about. Who knows if they can even get pregnant? I think at this point it is only a theory.
1 up, 3y,
1 reply
Yeah, as I said a couple dozen thousand transwomen have voiced an interest.

What is your point?

Why would they want that? Who cares. It’s not possible, legal, nor is anyone demanding it.

Transmen and women who are victims of rape absolutely should have the option to abort. Otherwise, forcing them to have an unwanted child is government abuse.

And when the government abuses it’s people…

Well… it doesn’t stay a government for long.
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
The government is not abusing people with this specific mental illness. The government only abuses conservatives.
1 up, 3y,
1 reply
By all means, list legislation the government has passed in the last ten years that specifically targets conservatives.

I’ll wait.
0 ups, 3y,
4 replies
After you list the legislation that targets trans people in a negative way.

There is legislation that allows trans people (and perverts who are faking it) to use the public restrooms, locker rooms and showers of their choice. Some states have legislation that prevents anyone from trying to verify if the person is actually trans or if it just some random pervert who wants to sneak a peak in a public shower, or some pedophile who's following a kid into a restroom.

Oh and by the way, who do you think Biden's Ministry of Truth is targeting? It ain't you guys.

Obama tried (and failed) 3 times to create a system where you can rat your conservative neighbor, friend or co-worker out for saying something bad about Obama.
1 up, 3y
“After you list the legislation that targets trans people in a negative way.”

https://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Bills/billsdetail.aspx?BillId=76545

Preventing teachers (not just trans teachers, all) from speaking of their personal lives who may only have an intent to connect with their students.

Also prevents trans students from seeking emotional support outside of the classroom from their councilors who are also designated as school personnel who may be abused for being trans (and even protects parents whom indoctrinate their kids to be trans, even if they want to be from seeking help from school personnel.)

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3964535-Trump-Transgender-Military-Memo

Bans transpeople from serving in the military.

“Oh and by the way, who do you think Biden's Ministry of Truth is targeting? It ain't you guys.”

You guys? I’m an American and anything that hurts one of us, hurts all of us. Including these discriminatory trans bills. The disinformation board will primarily target the press (you know, “the enemy of the people”) and social media platforms (the platforms that supposedly banned conservatives, like myself. It didn’t.)
1 up, 3y
Further, if you want me to simplify how the legislation affects people negatively, look no further than why some Republicans, not conservatives, are weary about expanding civil rights and protections. They claim these very bills will negatively impact those whom are not lgbtq. Ergo, any bill that designates orientation and gender as protected, harm everyone. Therefore, so does these very bills introduced by Republican state legislators that have an anti-lgbt agenda.
1 up, 3y
"Some states have legislation that prevents anyone from trying to verify if the person is actually trans"

In other words, states have passed laws that prevent people from looking at other people's genitals before they can use the bathroom. That's just common sense.
0 ups, 3y
"Some states have legislation that prevents anyone from trying to verify if the person is actually trans"

First, not a good idea to allow government to target a specific group of people to verify things.

Second, I suspect such legislation does not prevent transpeople from seeking medical evaluation to determine if they should go through any medical procedure.

The reason why I suspect that is that I'm having a hard time verifying your claim outside of anti-discriminatory bills for transpeople. Such as drafting legislation that would allow bathroom door security to inspect if a person really is the gender they are before using a public restroom.

Such ridiculous nonsense that does more harm than good.

I wouldn't want some f**ker at McDonald's stopping my daughter, who is not trans, just to see her genitals; so she can use the restroom.

In no way were those bills a good idea even when you put aside the obvious discrimination.

It is already illegal for people to rape people in bathrooms; regardless of gender. Women raping women, men raping men; and all the potential dickheaded possibilities people do to each other.
0 ups, 3y,
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"So roughly 500,000 transmen are either capable of giving birth;"

So then, they are not men, they are women with a mental disorder.

"And are most likely victims of rape when they do."

There's a statistic you just pulled out of your rear end.
1 up, 3y,
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It’s not a mental disorder to desire to be something. Nor is it wrong to be respectful of their choices.

Given the fact a transman has gone to the trouble to appear and identify as male; it is natural to assume most of these people have no interest in ever carrying a baby. And while they may even have sexual attraction to men, it isn’t unheard of, it is also rare for them to want to be the one being penetrated. Therefore, based on their series of desires; it’s very unlikely transmen want to give birth.

We could grab the statistic, sure, but it simply doesn’t exist yet.

And it’s very reasonable to conclude that MOST, but not all, would be a victim of rape given the circumstances if one takes the time to think about it.

Which is why I don’t condone discrimination if any kind.

It rarely involves logical thinking.

But please, if you can find anything wrong with my reasons; or even statistics that refute my argument; by all means.

Otherwise the only thing I see is a deflection being pulled out of your ass.
1 up, 3y,
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"We could grab the statistic, sure, but it simply doesn’t exist yet."

Which is the same thing as saying you pulled that out of your rear end, right? But making up statistics that do not exist is perfectly in keeping with the whole make-believe theme you got going here.

The rest of what you said it just a bunch of circular reasoning that goes nowhere, which makes how you ended it all the more hilarious.

It is a mental disorder to *believe* you are something you are not. "Believe" vs "desire" pose a considerable difference in what is real and what is not.

However, as the saying generally goes, "Repeat a lie often enough, and loud enough, and people will believe it to be true." Keep up the "good" work.

p.s. "And it’s very reasonable to conclude that MOST, but not all, would be a victim of rape given the circumstances if one takes the time to think about it."

That is outright insane . . .

p.p.s. "Which is why I don’t condone discrimination if any kind."

It is not discrimination to tell someone the truth . . . You, however, clearly discriminate against the truth.

p.p.s.s. You might as well be Octavia- you think and sound very much the same . . .
0 ups, 3y
I haven’t made up any statistics. “Most” is an indicator of an estimation, not a statistic.

A statistic could prove my estimate right or wrong. Since it doesn’t exist, I’ll go with my estimate.

Especially if you have nothing to object to other than calling it an estimate.

Circular reasoning implies if A = B, then B = A; my reasoning is closer to inductive or abductive reasoning.

Transgenderism is no longer recognized as a mental disorder.

https://nicic.gov/being-transgender-no-longer-mental-disorder-apa-2012

And even if it were, it’s not harming anyone but themselves so I don’t really see the point in discriminating against them.

How is it insane to think that a person who wants to be a man ends up pregnant, must have most likely been pregnant.

Please, explain your logic.
0 ups, 3y,
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"So then, they are not men, they are women with a mental disorder"

No, they are men
1 up, 3y,
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"No, they are men"

Obviously, they are not men, else you wouldn't have to try and sell it so hard.

Men have male genitalia and a Y chromosome.
Women have female genitalia and no Y chromosome.
This is true for 99.999% of the total human population, stretching back to our first parents.
Mutations do not qualify as legitimate examples to refute these simple, straightforward facts of life.
0 ups, 3y,
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"Obviously, they are not men, else you wouldn't have to try and sell it so hard"

No one is trying to "sell" anything. Just stating facts.

"Men have male genitalia and a Y chromosome.
Women have female genitalia and no Y chromosome"

Most do

"Mutations do not qualify as legitimate examples to refute these simple, straightforward facts of life"

Mutations prove that not everyone fits into either of those two categories. Nature doesn't care about labels.
1 up, 3y
You know you are in serious trouble when liberal reprobate Bill Maher is turning on your narrative: https://tinyurl.com/2dma5b6r
0 ups, 3y,
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"Mutations prove that not everyone fits into either of those two categories. Nature doesn't care about labels."

Then why are you insisting on labeling women as men, and men as women?

"Most do."

And that's all that matters, especially given that MOST of those claiming to be transgender would be included in your list of "most do".
0 ups, 3y
"Then why are you insisting on labeling women as men, and men as women?"

I'm not and never have
1 up, 3y
Transmen can get pregnant. By how liberals are transitioning the need for the prefix trans… in that context, she is correct.

And considering the subject was likely about abortion rights and how they should extend to these individuals; yeah. It needs discussion in a respectful manner.

Deceitfully thinking she is saying transwomen can get pregnant is pure strawman.
1 up, 3y
I'm sure real male ballerinas don't cut their junk off
2 ups, 3y
Way, way too many.
2 ups, 3y,
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0 ups, 3y,
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"shows an astounding ignorance and purposeful deception not based on protecting anyone by continuing to persecute and willfully misrepresent their beliefs."

Says someone trying to convince us that women can be men, and men can be women, just because they have "beliefs".

Standing up for basic truth, which includes the hard science of biology, is hardly "persecution". Until such time as something is done to prevent *adults* from damaging their bodies, you can stow your false flag of persecution. Liberals overuse and misuse the concept of racism, to the point where real racism gets lost in the muddy waters; now you want to dismantle persecution.

Your beliefs, your world view, and your ideology is exceptional flawed, and somewhat perverse (I am trying to be kind here); you are in no position to render accurate commentary on any of this.
0 ups, 3y
I haven’t said women can be men, and men can be women. Not all of them certainly. Are you afraid someone will try to change your gender because that isn’t how it works.

Using science to justify discrimination, sounds too much like eugenics. You don’t want people mutilating themselves or their kids, that’s great. We don’t do that by denying everyone the opportunity to be who they want to be. And we don’t limit personal freedoms just to make you feel comfortable.

You can stow your false flag rhetoric because I am a conservative. And I said Roe v Wade would never be ovreturned. Last time I checked, we keep saying Democrats will come take our guns while Democrats keep saying we’d come for Women’s choices. Who won put on that?

And who won our on the Sanctity of Marriage bullcrap?

Republicans are no longer on the right side of history.

And I perfectly expect Republicans, who are now shouting to high Heaven about being Second Amendment supporters, are coming for the guns next. I expect gun registration soon.

Right after voter registration. It’s coming. And it isn’t coming from the Democrats.
0 ups, 3y,
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"Says someone trying to convince us that women can be men, and men can be women, just because they have "beliefs"."

It's not a belief. It's literally their brain chemistry.

"Standing up for basic truth, which includes the hard science of biology, is hardly "persecution"."

And again, biology doesn't always fit into neat little boxes

"Liberals overuse and misuse the concept of racism, to the point where real racism gets lost in the muddy waters"

And many conservatives want to minimize and downplay when it actually does happen

"Your beliefs, your world view, and your ideology is exceptional flawed, and somewhat perverse (I am trying to be kind here)"

You like to say that without providing any evidence that it's actually true
0 ups, 3y,
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"It's not a belief. It's literally their brain chemistry."

Oddly enough, the brain chemistry in a biological male is different from that of a biological female. Those who believe themselves to be the opposite sex have the same brain chemistry as their biological sex, so your point is totally wrong.

"And again, biology doesn't always fit into neat little boxes"

"Doesn't always" = doesn't apply in the vast majority of transgender cases.

"You like to say that without providing any evidence that it's actually true"

You simply have not been paying attention. Even in this reply, I have done just that. You refuse to accept the most basic of biological, scientific principles by dropping ignorant lines like, "doesn't always", and "most do". Those are not ironclad answers to the basic facts, not even close. So, you have clearly been shown to be lacking in "Your beliefs, your world view, and your ideology . . . "

It doesn't change anything when you say, "says you!".
0 ups, 3y,
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"Oddly enough, the brain chemistry in a biological male is different from that of a biological female"

And the brain chemistry of a transwoman is closer to that of a cisgender woman, not a cisgender man

"Those who believe themselves to be the opposite sex have the same brain chemistry as their biological sex, so your point is totally wrong"

They don't, and that's the whole point. Their brain chemistry is closer to that of the gender they identify as.

"You refuse to accept the most basic of biological, scientific principles by dropping ignorant lines like, "doesn't always", and "most do"."

It's ignorant to NOT make blanket statements? Interesting logic.
0 ups, 3y
You: "And the brain chemistry of a transwoman is closer to that of a cisgender woman, not a cisgender man"

Also you: "It's ignorant to NOT make blanket statements?"

And it would be impossible for a man to have that type of brain chemistry, or so I would have guessed, but since you smartly provided links to the scientific data proving your point, I stand corrected.

Oh, wait- you didn't provide any evidence beyond your petty assertions? Huh . . .
4 ups, 3y,
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81 million.
6 ups, 3y,
1 reply
It's probably more like 40 million.
5 ups, 3y
And not one of them is smart enough to know statistical analysis proved it...
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