Might be the case for some of you.

And on the front page again which means more people agree with me than you.

You realize the science says the Vaccines are trash right?

You keep using the word science, Lokiare. It doesn't mean what you think it means.

The actual science says you have a very high chance of side effects with the vaccine. To the point that it's more deadly to take the vaccine than to get covid. You should look it up. The CDC documents coming out in court show this.

Oh, it's more deadly to take the vaccine than to get covid?

There are currently just under 1 million deaths due to covid in the United States.

How many deaths due to the vaccine? 1,000,001? Show me the science, Lokiare.

Show me the actual. Real. Science. Links to the scientific studies.

You making a claim isn't science. You need to have evidence.

Yep, look up the statistics. You die more often of vaccine side effects than covid for age groups under 80.

Come on. Think about it. Just simple observation of the world tells you that can't be true.

But let's take a look at some info. According to VAERs, which is a self-reporting system and not a verified or confirmed count- there have been 5,000ish cases of "vaccines causing death."

99% of them aren't true BUT for the sake of this, let's pretend that they are.

Now, you have roughly a 2% chance of death if you're under the age of 65, averaged across all the ages. But let's take that 2%. Now we're going to use the confirmed numbers from https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#datatracker-home.

There has been 80,000,000+ cases of covid. There have been just under 1,000,000 covid deaths. 2% of 80 million is 1.6 million. So, that tracks.

How many fully vaccinated people in the US? 220.3M. What percentage of 220,000,000 is 5,000?

5000 is 0.0022727272727273% of 220,000,000.

You are orders of magnatude greater chance of dying to covid than you are from any sideeffect of the vaccine.

But simple observation tells you that the vaccine isn't deadly. For it to "be more" than the covid death rate, it has to exceed 2%. Let's go 2.1%. What's 2.1% of 220,000,000?

2.1% of 220000000=4,620,000.

We would have noticed if there were 4.6 million dead vaccinted people around. Simple observations of the world tells you that your claim is wrong.

70% of VAERS reports are from medical professionals. Your numbers are way off. We know vaccine numbers are over reported and we know covid deaths were also over reported.

So the medical professionals reporting to VAERS are telling the truth, BUT the same medical professionals reporting the vaccination are suddenly lying?

And this seems like logic to you?

Two different groups of people. The ones running the show are politicians that are invested in the vaccine companies. The people reporting to VAERS are doctors across the country working with people that have the vaccine.

https://republicbroadcasting.org/news/new-uk-government-data-shows-the-covid-vaccines-kill-more-people-tha

Look, Lokiare, if I asked you to share a link that shows that you 1) didn't read it and 2) the writer clearly has no idea what they're talking about this is the perfect link to share.

This guy claims that in the UK for ever 16 people who got the vaccine, 15 died. To quote him exactl: What this means is that if you are 25 years old, the vaccine kills 15 people for every person it saves from dying from COVID.

How the f**k does that make sense? To anyone?!? I pulled the spreadsheet he linked. he copies the table, but he forgets to add that table is pulled from the summary tab. Which, in turn, is a compilation of other tables.

He adds his own definition there. No where does it define deaths like that. He's literally making it up.

There are currently 50 million fully vaxxed people in the UK. 50,000,000. For that 1:15 ratio to be true, there would be 15 dead people for every one of those 50,000,000. That's 750,000,000 dead people. Even if it was the other way, out of those 50 million, only 1 in 15 survived, the death rate would be in the 10s of millions.

The current death toll for COVID is 193,713 in the UK.

We would notice if millions of people in the UK just dropped dead.

This isn't science. This is deliberate and calculated misreading of data.

Failure to read. Please go back and read it again. Also take a statistical course. 15 to 1 ratio.

Oh, I'm going to regret this. What Walgreens data? You'll need to provide a link.

https://lorphicweb.com/walgreens-covid-19-testing-data-shows-the-vaccinated-are-more-likely-to-test-positive-highwire/
Check the video at the top.

quote: Its statistics. The vaccine saves X number of people in a 1000. It kills Y people in 1000. You gotta read the document and if you don't believe it, he gives the source of the information so you can do the math yourself.

I did. I even read the source spreadsheet. And no where - NO WHERE- does it say that 1: 15 is a life/death ratio.

He just decided it was 1 person lives, 15 die. No supporting evidence. No documentation. Nothing. Just declares it.

But if we're going to parse it down, it's a RISK/BENEFIT model. Not a Benifit/Risk model. So, if it's 1 to 15. That's 1 person at risk and 15 are saved.

This guy makes up some claims. Gives you 1 table with out any context. And you're prepared to accept it as objective truth.

Because you have a pre-formed conclusion and ONLY accept points that support that conclusion. Even when those points are clearly lies.

Like I said- you keep using science, but that word doesn't mean what you think it means.

Nope. It's not just that one. The new Walgreens data shows you are 3x more likely to get covid if you have the vaccine than if you don't have it. Also insurance company numbers are coming in showing vaccinated people are dying at an increased rate.

That's not the study. That's too unqualified knuckleheads cherry picking information (at best) and straight up lying at worst. they don't link to it. Where's the actual study done by Walgreens?

He literally makes up the reason for the 1:15. He says it's 1 survivor for 15 deaths.

Why? He offers no information of rom the spreadsheet. He offers no outside data like a gigantic body count.

Its statistics. The vaccine saves X number of people in a 1000. It kills Y people in 1000. You gotta read the document and if you don't believe it, he gives the source of the information so you can do the math yourself.

Uhh, where did it say that I was a quite “fact”? You were the only one who labeled it “fact”. Now I don’t care if you get vaccinated ‘cause in the end that’s your own choice, but I do care if you try to force other people to get vaccinated. A meme is a joke and a joke doesn’t have to be true. (I.e Would you get mad if a biological female made a “deez nutz” joke?)

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No. This meme isn't a joke.

You don't get to use it as cover.

You were serious in your attack on anyone who disagrees with your politics. And so is everyone that upvoted it.

You may laugh. But it's not funny. And it's not a joke.

“You were serious in your attack on anyone who disagrees with your politics. And so is everyone that upvoted it.“

On what basis is a meme an “attack”? You leftists seriously need to understand what being “attacked” means. Only once you do that can you stop getting offended when someone calls you the wrong pronouns.

What do you think that meme is about?

It's an attack.

It claims that anyone on the left is upset that a vaccine kills unborn children before they can.

Both are obvious lies.

Jokes require a premise. they require a setup. They need a payoff.

There's no premise. There's no setup. No punchline.

Just the demonization.

Once again a woman makes a deez nutz joke. She doesn’t have testicles, but nonetheless you still just laugh at the word nutz.

No. I don't laugh at a random person saying 2 words.

Again. Jokes require a premise. They require a setup. They require a punchline.

Accusing liberals of wanting to kill babies "before a vaccine does" isn't funny. Wht's the setup? What's the premise?

It pushes anti-vaxxer nonsense & lies- the vaccine is killing babies.
It demonizes a group of people.

the best you can claim here is a "it's funny because it's true."

Because it's true. which means you really do believe those things.

Which does make it an attack. and still not a joke.

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and humor is in the ears of the listener.

Says the guy who attacks anyone who disagrees with his politics.

Actually, I don't' attack you. I attack your positions. I attack your statements. I point out your racism and authoritarianism.

Oh, and I mock you for your hypocrisy.

Hypocrisy ? Like calling someone out for doing exactly what you admit you do?

Bluessol, you have repeatedly shown that you cannot tell the difference between someone being wrong and someone lying.

It really tracks that you can't tell the difference between a personal attack and having your hypocrisy pointed out.

Hahaha. You accuse a guy of making personal attacks and you then want to change the definition. Calling me a hypocrite isn’t a personal attack? Hypocrite. Your ability to tell right from wrong and truth from fiction is more an issue than any perceived hypocrisy from me anyway.

Pointing out your hypocrisy isn't a personal attack.

But I totally understand why you feel that way.

It's because the vast majority of your worldview is based on emotions. You "feel" things are the way they are,.

You don't engage in facts.

Offended? When do I get offended? I’m not you, I can be told I’m wrong and not be offended. I may not agree but the only offensive thing to me is denying truth and hypocrisy. You either have convictions or you don’t. If it’s wrong, it’s wrong and it doesn’t matter who you are or what you believe.

Haha I don’t swallow the false facts propagated by the hive mind of the leftists or their cheerleaders. I have free will and free thought. I neither need nor beg for approval. I can factually converse or get in the alley with it. I do not fear your disapproval or your race hate.

And that is why you get so offended.

You feel that you're right. So you don't question it.

When it gets pointed out that you're not right. That you're not consistent. And that you don't really follow the things you say you do, you get offended.