It Doesn't Even Take A Rocket Scientist To Understand Plandemic 101. . .

You and Mark Twain are correct, jdatesta.

Fool Me Once, Shame on You, Fool Me Twice, Shame on Me, Fool Me Thrice, I'm Stuck on Stupid...

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As long as libtards in America don’t want to hold China accountable they will get away with it.

Up-voted. The fanatically pro-vaxxing (mostly liberal) never thinking but panic-porn stroking sheeple fell for it while obediently bleating "Follow the bought and paid for science!" Thinking people (mostly conservatives), however, smelled a rat from the get-go.

The pro-vaxx have become a cult.

everyone should stop calling it the COVID vaccine, because it's not a vaccine. It's a shot, like the flu shot. It's like calling a T-bone steak a veggie sandwich.

The definition of what constitutes a vaccine has been changed just in order to sell this loser drug. That says a lot.

by them changing the definition of a word, it's almost like they're trying to hide something.

Dang I like this guy

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Libs: there's no flu because people are wearing masks and distancing

Also libs: there's COVID because people aren't wearing masks or social distancing

Isn't that the road where you can sell your soul to the devil for the ability to play the guitar "real good"?

You have to be a minority to qualify for that kind of help

Lol 😂 right, what makes them uniquely unable to see the stupidity of arguing both sides of a point.

Sheep going to be sheep...

I know right?

It’s like people forgot we had a pandemic or something.

I know... affordable healthcare no longer applies for those who do not comply with the totalitarian state... LOL

Oh, I didn't realize you were in China.

So sorry for you.

We still have something of a clusterf**k in terms of affordability. But doctors are quite happy to give you the medicine you need rather than whatever the f**k you want.

Yup... like I said... you sheep going to be sheep... LOL

Sheep don't spout facts.

Like the fact we saw a national increase of 17%, when the highest it's ever increased in 10 years was 3%.

That unusual increase seems to correlate with the Covid deaths. You can keep looking at the cold and flu statistics and ignore everything else.

I wouldn't call you sheep for that. Just willfully ignorant.

No... that's a parrot parroting the misleadia... LOL

No, that's facts compiled from data of scientists, data analysts, doctors, morticians, and basically not easily mislead without a significant significant investigation proving otherwise.

LOL...

I accept your forfeit.

Of course, that's all you got... troll... LOL

You're right, sheep don't spout facts, they spout whatever propaganda they are told.
Here you are bleating whatever you are told.

You didn't list a single fact, just babbled about percentages that have no context.

a national increase of 17%, of what? gullibility?
the highest it's ever increased in 10 years was 3%. of what ignorance?

That unusual decrease seems to correlate with the drop in Flu deaths. A fact you are willfully ignoring.

You can keep ignoring the cold and flu statistics as you push the Covid narrative.

Not only are you a sheep, you are willfully complicit in spreading propaganda

I’m not ignoring any facts but providing additional facts for context. As well as three reasonable interpretations of those facts of cold and flu decrease.

1. Cold and flu could not spread to covid patients who were already infections.

2. The symptoms were too similar to discern which were cold and flu or Covid.

3. Some percentage of covid may have had both.

Regardless, cold and flu in the US for the last 10 years have only killed anywhere between 12,000 to 52,000 people in a single year.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

But never in 100 years have we seen a flu-like virus kill more than 300,000 in a year.

Not only are you ignoring facts, you are spending misinformation.

1.. Cold and flu could not spread to covid patients who were already infections
Patients are infections... Got it.

2. The symptoms were too similar to discern which were cold and flu or Covid.
So all were diagnosed as Covid. Got it.

3. Some percentage of covid may have had both.
You just said Cold and flu could not spread to covid patients. Pick a lie and stick with it.

Regardless, cold and flu in the US for the last 10 years have only killed anywhere between 12,000 to 52,000 people in a single year.
You are using the word Regardless to dismiss the 12,000 to 52,000 people who die from the cold and flu every year. The numbers I posted and the numbers the OP used are from the CDC. Which medical school did you attend? Watching your TV doesn't count.

And you said you weren't a liberal, more misinformation.

What facts have I ignored?

"You just said Cold and flu could not spread to covid patients. Pick a lie and stick with it.""

The three interpretations are probable scenarios. They are all either/or... not a summary explanation. I'm sorry to have so easily confused you.

"You are using the word Regardless to dismiss"

No, to dimiss any reasonable interpretation listed above. The person who is using data to dismiss the number people who've died is you and the OP.

Your probable scenario is not a rational explanation. It's your fault you are easily confused about what a fact is. Probable is not fact. Probable is not a rational explanation.

Keep pretending you are the intellectual giant you think you are, what you think isn't fact.

Lying... Again. You were the one who used the word regardless, in an attempt to dismiss actual facts to spread misinformation and propaganda.

“a national increase of 17%, of what? gullibility?
the highest it's ever increased in 10 years was 3%. of what ignorance?”

Total deaths in the US per year have also climbed exponentially.

2010, total deaths 2,468,435
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr61/nvsr61_04.pdf

2011, total deaths 2,515,458 (1.9% increase from last year)https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr63/nvsr63_03.pdf

2012, total deaths 2,543,279 (1.1% increase from last year)https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr63/nvsr63_09.pdf

2013, total deaths 2,596,993 (2.1% increase from last year)https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

2014, totals deaths 2,626,418 (1.1% increase from last year)https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr65/nvsr65_04.pdf

2015, total deaths 2,712,630 (3.3% increase from last year)https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr66/nvsr66_06.pdf

2016, total deaths 2,744,248 (1.2% increase from last year)https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr67/nvsr67_05.pdf

2017, total deaths 2,813,503 (2.5% increase from last year)https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr68/nvsr68_09-508.pdf

2018, total deaths 2,839,205 (0.9% increase from last year)https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr69/nvsr69-13-508.pdf

2019, total deaths 2,854,838 (0.6% increase from last year)https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db395-H.pdf

2020, total deaths 3,358,814 (17.7% increase from last year)https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm

2020 saw the highest death rate increase in ten years by 17.7% The highest percentage before that was 3.3%... if we were to take the previous years total deaths (2,854,838) and subtract that by the second highest average increase of 3.3% (94,210), that means we're left with a significant increase in deaths by 409,766 deaths!

According to the CDC, we had about 375,000 deaths attributed to Covid in 2020.

I find it very unlikely that 409,766 died from uncured illnesses...

Unless, again, that uncured illness was Covid.

You're going to have to account for more than just 20,000 OD, and 350,000 people afraid to go to hospital. That just isn't going to cut it.

You have 400,000 odd deaths attributed to a new disease and an unusual increase of 400,000, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to spot the correlation.

Total deaths in the US per year have also climbed exponentially.

Total deaths in the US per year have also climbed exponentially, before anyone knew Covid existed, and the Total deaths in the US will continue to climb long after people no longer remember the Covid Plandemic. Your point is moot.

According to the CDC, we had about 375,000 deaths attributed to Covid in 2020.

According to the SAME CDC There is Unknown number of deaths, Zero cold and flu deaths listed, All previous years cold and flu deaths were listed.

I find it very unlikely that 409,766 died from uncured illnesses...
I find it very suspicious when you renamed the cold and the flu Uncured illnesses, to avoid attributing any deaths to the cold and flu.

Unless, again, that uncured illness was Covid.
Or you rename the cold and flu uncured illnesses to avoid attributing deaths to the cold and flu.

You're going to have to account for more than just 20,000 OD, and 350,000 people afraid to go to hospital. That just isn't going to cut it.
I posted actual data from the CDC, You're the one saying they all died from Covid, the burden of proof is on you.
If 350,000 people were afraid to go to hospital... how were they diagnosed with Covid if they didn't go to hospital?
You claiming they died from Covid without being diagnosed because they were afraid to go to hospital just isn't going to cut it.

You have 400,000 odd deaths attributed to a new disease and an unusual increase of 400,000, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to spot the correlation.
Zero deaths attributed to the cold or flu, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to spot the correlation.
Keep pretending you're a rocket scientist.

"Total deaths in the US per year have also climbed exponentially."

They've climbed, but not as significantly between 2019 and 2020. Reason: Covid.

I already covered this in my reply to you here: imgflip.com/i/62ru13#com17015226

"I find it very suspicious when you renamed the cold and the flu Uncured illnesses, to avoid attributing any deaths to the cold and flu."

That would be because others have claimed that other uncured illnesses (not cold, flu, covid, etc.) were responsible for the uptick and deaths. Not covid. Which is in errror. It was covid the numbers correlate.

"I posted actual data from the CDC, You're the one saying they all died from Covid, the burden of proof is on you."

And I provided it. See previous reply here: imgflip.com/i/62ru13#com17015226

The CDC's preliminary total deaths in the US attributes about 375,000 to Covid.

Proving otherwise is on you, not me.

"If 350,000 people were afraid to go to hospital... how were they diagnosed with Covid if they didn't go to hospital?"

If they died. Hospital determined covid on death certificate. Whether they were afraid or not is irrelevant. They died from covid. The fear could be considered a "comorbidity" but they still died because of covid.

Just like a man bleeding to death refused hospital aid doesn't mean he didn't die from refusing hospital aid. He died from bleeding out.

1,822 deaths isn't zero. It's the confirmed amount.

And there may have been even more deaths than what has been reported, but certainly not less in both cases of covid and the flu. Again, these numbers only reflect the confirmed estimate. The actual estimate will likely be much larger.

Babbling about Covid and spewing misinformation is not a rational explanation.
Posting information from the CDC about Covid is not a rational explanation for why
the number of flu illnesses dropped from 39 to 56 million to only 1,675, why the number of flu hospitalizations dropped from 410,000 to 740,000 to just 224, for why the number of flu deaths dropped from 24,000 to 62,000 to an unknown number of deaths, for why the number of pediatric deaths dropped from 195 to one single death.

Now you'll babble about Covid again, you'll lie again, and in the end you won't provide a rational explanation, and of course you'll claim you did.

People like you are the ones spreading misinformation and fear.

Yep, liberal and leftist sheep never mention Covid when they blame Orangemanbad for the collapse of the economy and the rise of unemployment in 2020.

Selective amnesia is a side effect of TDS.

I didn’t know sheep could vote.

Those dirty darn demon rats!

Hey, people are joining the TDS bandwagon now that Jan 6 rioters and their supporters felt alienated by his remarks.

Maybe Trump’s promise to pardon them will bring much unity in that loud minority.

The final national data on flu season is released annually in April by the CDC .

Between October 1, 2019 and April 4, 2020, the flu resulted in:

39 to 56 million illnesses
410,000 to 740,000 hospitalizations
24,000 to 62,000 deaths
195 pediatric deaths

Between October 1, 2020 and April 1, 2021, the flu resulted in:

1,675 illnesses
224 hospitalizations
Unknown number of deaths
One pediatric death

Number of liberals that have a rational explanation: 0

Biden administration be like: can we distract you with inflation? no? how about a border crisis? no, well how about Russia & Ukraine or maybe China and Taiwan?

How about me. I’m not a liberal.

The explanation is we had a pandemic with a more deadly and contagious virus.

You are a liberal.

Just because I may disagree with you on some things does not make me a liberal.

And even if a person is a liberal... and they're arguing with facts, that doesn't make them wrong in this particular case.

Keep licking the backs of Xi and Bill’s boots.

Keep making random insults and thinking you scored points that matter.

No, just similar viruses like cold and flu, took a backseat to the corona. Either making it harder to identify flu and covid or those who may have even had both. Pneumonia, for example, which is often counted WITH the flu deaths due to the fact it's a common comorbidity - soared far past it's annual average of contagion rates during covid.

Covid, the first virus in history to make all other diseases take a back seat.
Covid, the first virus in history that makes it so hard to diagnose the cause of death, every death is diagnosed as Covid.

It makes perfect sense to people with zero common sense.

If Pneumonia is counted with flu deaths, why does the CDC have different categories for Pneumonia deaths and Flu deaths?

No, most Cold and Flu.

But as for this the first time cold/flu took a backseat to another virus, yes. But I can only collaborate with it being known to happen in the last ten years.

I honestly don’t have the data to support it one way or another. The closest is perhaps the 2009 H1N1 pandemic. Then cold and flu number fatalities were recorded as 12,469 deaths. Or rather they were tallied with the usual seasonal flu.

Still, that doesn’t mean there was no H1N1 or no covid in their respective cases just because we were unable to discern the difference between the two at the time.

But make no mistake, covid is not the flu.

"No, just similar viruses[,] like cold and flu, took a backseat to the corona."

That is true, but not likely in the way you mean it (?). They took a 'backseat' because of a liberal/progressive political agenda, NOT because one virus was actually suppressing another one from taking hold in a host.

The MAIN reason that the cold and flu 'took a backseat' is because they were both misdiagnosed as Covid, either unintentionally thanks to useless testing equipment, or intentionally in order to bring in "desperately" needed funds for "struggling" hospital budgets.

What if, just what if, all of those millions of Covid cases the world over were not actually Covid? How would knowing that at the beginning have changed the outcome we have today? I have come to realize that this narrative has even wrongly affected my perception of the situation, but I can assure you, I am correcting this with more and more information.

“ The MAIN reason that the cold and flu 'took a backseat' is because they were both misdiagnosed as Covid”

That is possible. Of the 375,000 who died and were confirmed to be diagnosed with Covid maybe 10-25% may have had just had cold and flu. Yet 281,000 to 337,000 deaths from a new virus is still significant. And proof that Covid exists.

“What if, just what if, all of those millions of Covid cases the world over were not actually Covid?”

Then the cold and flu have become four or five times more deadly than it has in almost 100 years.

You definitely are a liberal.

I asked for a liberal to provide a rational explanation for why the number of flu illnesses dropped from 39 to 56 million to only 1,675, why the number of flu hospitalizations dropped from 410,000 to 740,000 to just 224, for why the number of flu deaths dropped from 24,000 to 62,000 to an unknown number of deaths, for why the number of pediatric deaths dropped from 195 to one single death.

You being a liberal you chimed in babbling about Covid thinking what you find hard to believe makes something factual. You couldn't keep your lying narrative straight from one comment to the next.
You renamed the cold and flu uncured illnesses to deflect from the cold and flu numbers provided by the CDC...the topic of the debate, and throughout your entire argument you identified as a rocket scientist.

"You definitely are a liberal."

Irrelevant.

"..you identified as a rocket scientist."

I claimed to be as much as a "rocket scientist" as the OP. Check the title.

Other than that, I'm not sure what facts you're having trouble understanding.

Perhaps if you put your response in the form of a question I can understand your problem.

"You definitely are a liberal."
Irrelevant.
Not irrelevant, you lied about not being a liberal, you lost your credibility in your opening statement.

My initial comment that started your ongoing babble lies and propaganda was in the form of a question.
My last reply was in the form of a question. You're playing the ignorance card to avoid giving a rational explanation to the questions I posed.

Prove I’m a liberal.

Ok, but I already know the outcome. You're going to ignore all the evidence, babble about random topics, lie, deflect and refuse to provide evidence when you are asked.

Exibit A: Liberals always demand proof, when they refuse to provide proof.
I'm still waiting for your proof on multiple Memes. Your proof on this meme will suffice.
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Exibit B: A liberal usually ignores actual evidence, You'll prove that in your response.

ExibitC: They use random hypotheticals that have absolutely nothing to do with the topic, to prop up a crumbling narrative. You used a random hypothetical in the Meme listed above.

Exibit C: They lie, and when they are called out, they deflect and change the topic... Say they didn't lie, and deflect. You lied in the Meme listed above, you deflected in the Meme listed above.

Exibit:D Liberals all spout the same talking points on every Meme. You and every liberal responded with the same talking points in the Meme listed above.

Exibit:E The arguments/negative comments on conservative Memes come from liberals, the same way arguments/negative comments on liberal Memes come from conservatives. All your arguments/negative comments are on conservative Memes.

Exibit F: Liberals cherry pick and ignore anything that contradicts their narrative. You cherry picked from a source that was in the Meme listed above, while you intentionally ignored everything that contradicted your narrative.

Now that I've presented my evidence, it's your turn to do the same. Prove you are not a liberal

I suggest you look up what a liberal is before applying terms you don't understand to people you don't know.

If you would like my evidence. Here: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/liberal#h1

Start with that and now try to objectively apply that to me instead of using subjective confirmation bias that critiques my way of arguing that completely fails to objectively have any merit to my political alignments.

If it walks like a liberal, and squawks like a liberal, and thinks like a liberal, and hates America and common sense and science and life and God, ad infinitum, ad nauseam, like a liberal, it's a liberal!

Most liberals also have the trait of totally lacking self-awareness. Your confusion is understandable . . .

>>That is pretty presumptuous of you to think you know God better than anyone."

"Since I didn't say that, I believe we call what you did here, "gaslighting". "

You said: Your views do not align with the Word of God.

If I were gaslighting, I would be calling you a liberal. And I have. I apologize. However, I wouldn't so misconstrued to dismiss your opinions or the facts just because YOU may be a liberal. Can you say the very same? No, because you believe liberals do not use facts and you find their opinions corruptible because they are corrupted by liberal-thinking.

I have yet to meet anyone who is ever really one thing. After all, no matter how Christian someone may think themselves to be, at the end of the day, they are just another sinner. But a sinner with a chance at redemption.

"if your commitment to "understanding . . . and facts" is strong enough, then you will want to deal with the most important question we all face- what happens when we die?"

Each person believes something different. Such beliefs are so strong that they cannot be overturned. Most people believe they are right even when they are not. It isn't our place to judge them. That is His domain. And judging them will not guide them to the Lord but chase them further away. And He will reveal Himself to each of us one way or another.

"I don't follow your orders, especially when it comes to sharing the truth of the Gospel."

And you're very free to do so but if you can't make an argument without attacking the arguer, then you've failed to argue - which is my point. If you cannot argue your point without labeling people what you think they are or simply dismiss their argument entirely because what you think they are then you're not really making an argument but just "gaslighting".

"I answer to the Lord, not to you."

I do as well. And you most certainly will answer for your dismissive nature of your fellow human beings. I'll pray for you.

“Your views do not align with the Word of God.”

That is pretty presumptuous of you to think you know God better than anyone.

“So also, standing in a church does not make a person a Christian.”

You’re right. You and I could attend church every day of our lives and still not know God more than some people who may never attend church.

“I am not talking about belonging to the same political party, or having the exact same views on everything.”

But I think you are. If you think…

“…we should be on the same side”

…on everything. I know you said you didn’t but just as you doubt me, I doubt your motives. Mine are fairly simple. Understanding and a commitment to facts. I say who we are is unimportant because neither of us can prove who we are in this place. So, if you see me standing against facts, you call me out. But you cannot know if I’m a Christian, a Republican, or even a person.

And what does it matter if I am not?

I say argue your point but leave me out of it and I will, in turn, leave you out of mine.

"That is pretty presumptuous of you to think you know God better than anyone."

Since I didn't say that, I believe we call what you did here, "gaslighting". And usually, when someone makes a false accusation like this, it is because they realize that they have come across someone that DOES know God better than they do. There is nothing wrong with that, btw, not knowing God as well as someone else who has been in His Word for a lot longer.

As to this, "And what does it matter if I am not [a Christian]?", I would imagine you at least know something of the consequences of this. There is a Hell to shun, and a Heaven to gain, and if your commitment to "understanding . . . and facts" is strong enough, then you will want to deal with the most important question we all face- what happens when we die?

"I say argue your point but leave me out of it and I will, in turn, leave you out of mine."

I don't follow your orders, especially when it comes to sharing the truth of the Gospel. I answer to the Lord, not to you. You are welcome to change the channel if being faced with this reality is not something you are interested in.

Where science stopped with the Scopes Monkey Trial, and everything from the Jan 6th seditious riot to hijack the goverment for a wannabe dictator to the Confederacy they adore like it was only yesterday is their "patRiotism"

Well, I don't hate America, I argue with facts, I attend church... so I guess not a liberal by your generalizations.

Political affiliations are a little more nuanced based simply on a handful of disagreements.

But if it makes you feel better to believe that everyone who doesn't agree with you on everything well... I suppose by your own narrow definition of a liberal, you and Chosanwan are the biggest liberals of all.

In fact, I've often joked that Trump Supporters are liberals based on the fact that Trump, despite being almost a walking-talking caricature of what it means to be a Republican, has quite the liberal mindset. And having spoken with quite a few of them, many are former Democrat voters or, at the very least, the children of them.

"I attend church"

Your views do not align with the Word of God. Just as everything liberalism touches in politics, business, foreign policy, etc. turns into a complete disaster, so too, liberalism in the church destroys the Gospel.

If you are born again, which according to Jesus Himself is the only way we get into the Kingdom of Heaven, then we should be on the same side.

This does not appear to the case. And no, I am not talking about belonging to the same political party, or having the exact same views on everything. Neither of us is omnipotent, and each is a sinner still.

While I would love to know more about why you go to church, I will simply leave you with this- just because someone stands in their garage and calls themselves a car, does not mean they are a car. So also, standing in a church does not make a person a Christian.

I pray that you attend an actual bible believing church, and that eventually the Word of God better aligns your views with God. I will point out that I am being sincere in all of this out of concern for your soul. Winning/losing petty political arguments on imgflip will one day prove to be irrelevant to all of our lives.

Matthew 16:26
For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what shall a man give in return for his soul?

Shocker, you ignored all the evidence, just as I said you would. You didn't make a single attempt to refute any evidence and hid behind a dictionary

Your using a dictionary to defend yourself, laughable.

You definitely are a liberal.

Using facts to defend myself is laughable?

You definitely are a troll.

wrong, I did