ALL Lives Matter, Including Hillary's & Nancy's

I'd save my breath and get back to land!

I would sit there and sympathize with them and promise to bring it up in a committee meeting Monday morning.

Committee members are currently out on recess. The hearing can’t be scheduled for two weeks.

I have two hands and these ladies are rather old and frail even if they were a bit waterlogged. So, both.

Because I’m a good Christian. and I wouldn’t let hate enter my heart in a moment that someone needed my help.

Let God judge them.

It’s not my job.

But it is my soul.

Sounds like white guilt to me... /Sarcasm

Neither one and save America

ALL Lives Matter, Including Hillary's & Nancy's

not really

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I would sit there, and tell em' that if they give me all their political secrets and resign from their positions I will save them.

We don't say only Black Lives Matter, we say Black Lives Matter because they are treated like they don't.

Don't bother, the meme is inherently racist.

it is.

Too bad you can't tell that to the poor lady who said, "All Lives Matter" and the BLM supporter KILLED her....

Source?

Sigh... GOOGLE IT. WHY AM I ALWAYS THE ONE TO TELL YOU THIS?! If you do find it, and it's bullshit, you can throw it back in the commenters face... you know... rather than looking like an idiot.

Here's an article on it... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8522933/BLM-supporters-post-hateful-messages-Facebook-mom-shot-dead-saying-lives-matter.html

The story is a bit of a rabbit hole to verify but it seems genuine from what I've seen so far.

SoulRiven was kind enough to do your legwork for you since you don't follow the real news. I think a "thank you" is owed to him or her for taking the time YOU should have taken in the first place. I don't have trouble deciphering fact from fiction but you surely do as a liberal, John.

For once you actually got something right. Doesn't excuse this stream's shit though.

My dude... it's everyone's stream. Make a meme! Come with some solid Uguay memes for that asshat Mitch McConnell; change the tone of stream. If it's thought provoking or sarcastic, I'll likely upvote it; if it's funny, everyone will upvote it! Doesn't matter what or who your poking fun at... just gotta craft it well. The only thing that true Memers care about is quality.

Source?

Will Smith, Barack Obama, Marvin Gaye, Prince, Michael Jackson, Candace Owens, Martin Lawerence, Dave Chappelle. I could go and on about black people who we are treating like their lives don’t matter.

how am I wrong?

I was also wondering who said "only black lives matter"..

Come on, darko...BLM says it ad nauseum along with droves of white apologists! I got so angry at the FACT that one is prohibited in America to even say 'All' Lives Matter that I made this meme a couple of months ago. Fantheory, this is also for you as you feign ignorance in this subject as well.

All Lives Matter. If One Discriminates Against ANY Racial Group, One Is Supporting Racism.
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Nobody says all lives matter and means it. It is only ever an anti-black lives matter statement. They were very clear on the reasoning. I find it sad that all lives matter isn’t a rallying cry. It should have been.

Half true, as far as I can tell.

It's like if a child speaks a half-truth as an assertion (e.g. "Squares are rectangles."), the explanation of the how the half-truth isn't the complete picture is meant to counter and improve the child's grasp of reality... and fundamentally help improve their geometry grades.

When someone makes an assertion grounded in ignorance or malicious deceit (if they KNOW they're only giving a portion of the truth), it needs to be correctly identified as wrong and the factual truth needs to be explained. Even if true, - some square are rectangles, after all - no one gains from only hearing half of reality. It can only hurt and diminish. In the case of "Black Lives Matter", it hurts and diminishes by dividing everyone who buys into that half truth from everyone who believes that All Lives Matter.

Which is what politicians, journalists and multinational companies/corporations seem to want for money and power... but that last part is merely based on observation.

A lot of words to say nothing. Could BLM have come up with a better way of saying “police are killing black People in greater % than over races, and in many cases it is treated as a forgone conclusion that they deserved it and we would really like it to stop”? Maybe, but based on “I can’t breathe”, kneeling, and over peaceful protests, the same people ignoring BLM would have found justification to ignore or vilify any name associated too.

Nobody says “all cities matter” when people said “Boston strong” after the bombing. Happy holidays is a war on Christmas (don’t all holidays matter?), hasn’t anyone told Susan B Coleman that all cancers suck? Would you interrupt a Memorial Day parade to remind people that all lives matter?

When someone says BLM in direct response to a black person being killed and you throw out all lives matter, it’s like showing up at someone’s funeral to say a few words...about somebody else.

I think I broke my arm
All bones matter.

It’s the Fourth of July!
All countries matter!

Also, I genuinely wanted to say "thank you". You presented an argument for your opinion in a logical and thought provoking way. I hope we get to the point that everyone can do as you did. We'll not always come to an agreement but... DAMN... it's nice to hear someone defending their thoughts without whining, deflecting or sticking their fingers in their ears and screeching. You rock, Dragon!

Aw, shucks. I do try.

I used to be very quiet and tried not to rock the boat. One of the reasons I started doing this is I started to pick up this energy on my Facebook feed. You probably know what I'm talking about - the bubble. My family (mostly conservative) had been slowly going down the #fakenews bandwagon where they can pretty much just ignore anything they don't want to believe. Posting only the headlines - democrats voted against this because Silly stuff. So I decided to make sure that (whether they liked it or not) they would get exposed to more than just a straw man argument. And I wondered if maybe I was in a similar bubble. So, doing this also exposes me to arguments I might have overlooked or never heard. Plus I enjoy debate.

Most things we've disagreed with in this country for a long time are complicated. If there was an easy and clear solution, we probably would have found it. BLM has valid concerns. The people who riot over those concerns are hurting the cause (all moral issues aside).

For example: There are arguments for Medicare for all (I'm for it), but there are legitimate concerns about implementing it. The fact that we are pretty much the last major nation to not guarantee universal care kind of makes me think that's the way to go. We aren't going to be trailblazing...

One of my biggest frustrations is that honestly, there are good arguments on both sides of most issues but most people just fight with sound bites.

Full disclosure: I can only see up to "...the cause (all moral issues aside)." for reasons that probably have something to do with the intranet I'm on. That's consistent with all long-form posts for me.

However, from what I can see of your post, I agree. Far too many strawman arguments have infected civil discourse... it's an insincere, dishonest and cowardly way of forcing an argument through to suit one's political/ideological whims.

You (and everyone else) not only should but NEED(s) to rock the boat with cogent, well-thought-out argumentation! At the end of the day, there's really only two ways to enact change... discourse or physical confrontation. Though I fear we may be heading in the latter direction - we've been witnessing it now for years! - but I don't think that is the optimal solution. An upvote for you!

Sure. "Police Reform for Black Communities"? "Black Communities Against Violet Crime"? Again, you're correct but are only speaking from one side of the issue. Half of those wound up by this issue paint all Police-involved shootings as racist and unjustified while the other half at least seem to acknowledge that not all officers need to be in their uniform; that they're unfit. There are various nuances and I'll not be able to detail them in a sentence or two but what I will point out is that slogans like "I can't breathe" and "Hands up, don't shoot" are not helpful when seeking justice for legitimate cases of Police brutality or malfeasance... because those slogans are based on a lie. One should argue with facts or you one will diminish/bias what they're fighting for.

If you feel strongly about All Cities/Holidays/Diseases/Flavors of Skittles Matter(ing), it is incumbent upon you say something. However, we both know that there are already people taking umbrage with Christmas being vilified and/or breast cancer seemingly being the only variety that businesses and sporting events grind to a halt for. Also, Memorial Day has always been about ALL lives (lost)… except that it's only observed only once a year for the multiple thousands that fought (and died) for the sovereignty/interests of our nation and it's third of a billion citizens. What I do know, however, is that if someone screamed All Lives Matter during a Memorial Day parade wouldn't get that person killed... the same cannot be said about a Black Lives Matter... umm... parade.

Again, this is a distinction between how the BLM slogan is used and what it's mutated into implying, for some... as an umbrella excuse to justify bad behavior - criminal behavior, in some cases - because of one's skin color. I'm not a fan of anyone of any level of pigmentation thinking that they are above the law... since America, the constitutional republic that it is, cannot survive long if enough people behave poorly at the expense of the person to their left/right. If you would like, I'd be happy to have a conversation about criminal/demographic statistics with you, at length and in-detail, citing every source. We can also talk about the police shooting statistics and break down each event - something that is needed as every situation is different - to fully examine them and determine if the shooting was justified... much in same way that a judge has done/will do for each of them.

Of the ~25 people who have been identified as being killed in relation to BLM, which of them were killed for saying ALM?

There have been times BLM has shown up to protest and the cop has turned out to have been justified. On one hand its unfortunate. On the other, I can't blame people defaulting to the side of the victims who can't speak for themselves anymore.

People could say "they have a point, and police definitely need reform, but I don't like BLM", and I'm sure there are those who do.

But in my experience, the reaction is more like "I was going to listen after the George Floyd video, but then they rioted and I won't listen to extremists." Its like 100 students come to tell you they are experiencing harassments from a teacher. 3 of those 100 students say F-this and go break some shit. The administration then says they aren't going to listen because of those 3 students. Its insane.

Who is above the law? Have they ever marched for anyone's release? or asked that charges be dropped? It seems to me they are always asking that cops be charged.

If the shooting was justified - I'm not sure you get what the issue is. Let me try it like this:
George Floyd committed a crime while high. Derrick Chauvin restrained him and he died. Many people were present and the encounter was filmed. The DA initially said that charges against Chauvin might not be filed. Riots ensue.

Chauvin isn't the issue... Hell, maybe Chauvin wasn't the least bit racist and is just a terrible cop. The issue is the DA. We have a man murdered on video, the whole country has seen it and even police nationwide are speaking out against it (pretty much the only time I've seen that happened). So with all of this, the DA announced charges might not be filed...really? A jury doesn't need to look at the evidence? I'll even give the DA the benefit of the doubt - maybe he wasn't covering for Chauvin. Maybe he really thought chances were he wouldn't get a conviction.

To rephrase: The issue isn't George Floyd and his crime. The issue is Derrick Chauvin and his crime. The cop who killed Philando Castile was found innocent on all charges. The raid on Brionna Taylor's apartment was performed based on cops lying to the judge in the warrant request and they weren't charged - maybe they would have been found innocent, but no jury is even going to look at it. it wasn't cops, but the only reason arrests were made for Ahmaud Arbery is the DA leaked the tape and there was national attention.

Sorry this will be truncated... I don't have time for a more thorough response. To your first sentence, however: Jessica Doty Whitaker.

Overall, BLM as a statement and as a force for change is valuable. Their current methods and some of their ancillary messages, however, are a detriment to themselves, their goals and the nation (e.g., White people are racist; Black people are oppressed; Marxism). I lack time to detail these but I promise the ideas listed are tied to and voiced by BLM (a quick Google search will confirm). None of these bode well for all concerned and the only people who win are the politicians (et al) in power.

Again, I'm sorry... I'll revisit this later. Your post is appreciated!

Maybe some day one of these black people will be elected President. Or to the Supreme Court. 🙏🏻

I wouldn't save them and I wouldn't even yell "black lives matter." These two are evil and I'll let God sort it out.

I disagree with the title
NO lives matter :)

Tom MacDonald concurs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t86ClLM3ZGY

Yo
That's epik

I hate to make the comparison but he's like Eminem (the comparisons and a bit of the style is there but MacDonald definitely has his own flavor) back in the day before he slipped into an industrial-sized vat of woke. MacDonald's other songs are awesome too... give them a listen if you'd like. Enjoy, Tooka.

Chum the water and crack a beer.

I can't swim, so I'd call over two lifeguards.

They're already going to drown... you can put the pumpy down now, Tex. ;)

I'd assume they'd dissolve underwater. Or get crushed by houses.

Probably Pelosi.

Throw them both a rope made of steel.