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This man knew Rush Limbaugh for decades. He would know Rush better than the angry twitter trolls.

This man knew Rush Limbaugh for decades. He would know Rush better than the angry twitter trolls. | BO SNERDLEY AKA JAMES GOLDEN; FRIEND, PRODUCER, & ENGINEER OF RUSH LIMBAUGH SAYS THAT RUSH WASN'T RACIST. LIAR! THAT'S NOT WHAT TWITTER TELLS ME! | image tagged in angry sjw,rush limbaugh,bo snerdley,memes,not racist,twitter trolls | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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14 ups, 4y
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2 ups, 4y
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0 ups, 4y
Y'know, maybe its the word 'Nerd' in his name, but all this time when ever Rush cited/referenced "Snerdley' I always visualized a 'Niles Crane' looking dude...
0 ups, 4y
If black people can also be racist then having a black friend doesn’t absolve you of racism either.
0 ups, 4y
This meme doesn't mention race at all. It mentions this person's name and it describes him as a man in the title.

It describes two friends and co-workers and how one friend knew his recently deceased friend well and knew him far better than would angry internet trolls who get off on lying about and destroying people's reputations online.

If you saw this photo of two friends at one of the friend's wedding not as two people happily celebrating an occasion, but as one white man and one black man, then you are an a-hole who needlessly brought race into the conversation to be divisive. You are also an a-hole for perpetuating, if not purposely creating more division between the races.

Falsely accusing other people's fathers for thinking/saying racist comments is also abhorrent.

With your comments, some of you have proven yourselves to be human pieces of garbage. I'm so happy for you that you get off on spreading a bunch of crap about others online, whether it's on Twitter or on a meme site. At least you have that going for you.
5 ups, 4y,
3 replies
Bro this is THE EXACT COROLLARY of I have black friends so I can't be racist. Pls try again
10 ups, 4y,
1 reply
No its an exactation of information that directly contradicts the narrative of systematic racism. This dude called the shots on Rush Limbaugh. That's what producers do.

The MSM and BLM would have you believe that systematic racism is a thing. If it was a thing, we wouldnt have this guy calling the shots for Rush Limbaugh. We wouldn't have black millionaires. Black President - mixed Vice President, black Governors , black Mayors, black cops, black IT people, and we wouldn't have mote black CEOs per capita than any other country in the world.
7 ups, 4y
To point out that systematic racism doesn't exist - also, is not saying that Black Lives Don't Matter either. Any poor or homeless person in this country feels the same struggles. I understand that black lives do matter. As do Irish & Mexican & French & Chinese & Vietnamese. & yes - white lives matter too.

The issue isn't systematic racism - it's massive financial inequality. Its corps making Billions while employees make barely enough to get by. Its the elite 1% controlling 99% of the money. That isn't a racial issue. Even if it does impact Black Lives.
7 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Yes it does. If systematic racism was a thing, we wouldn't have Snoop Dog on Nickelodeon, Nick Carter hosting shows, R Kelly taking leaks on people & still being relevant, we wouldn't have Kayne West interrupting award ceremonies. We wouldn't have Obama as a President. Harris as VP. Kids every day wouldn't be wearing Jordan shoes. We wouldn't have seen Tiger Woods rise to fame and domination - nor Serena & Venus Williams dominate Tennis. We wouldn't see Atheletes on Wheaties boxes. We wouldnt be able to go grab Music thst talks about the gang life & hardships. We wouldn't see Mayors & Congress & Police that are black.

To say systematic racism is a thing - with all of those examples of people who were allotted equal opportunity & made the most of it -- it is to discredit their accomplishments. And its a discredit to all of the history of change in America that made all of those examples a reality.

The only systematic factor affecting people is financial. That spans all races equally & is the real problem.
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0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
3 ups, 4y
Its not inequalities, its less repeat offenders, less violence associated with various crimes. The only discrepancy in the courts is who can afford the best lawyers. Which is rich people, not white people.
2 ups, 4y
If you think black people have it bad now , just wait until after the immigrant deluge over the next 3 years. The black community didnt fair so well in 2nd place, 4th place is going to be brutal. They're going from about 14% to about 9% .......
4 ups, 4y
Except it's the 'black friend' giving the opinion.
2 ups, 4y,
1 reply
People say Biden is racist for saying things lkke "you ain't black" in regard to whether or not black people would vote for him. People say Biden is racist because of his voting record on public policy. They also move back to his early career where he said desegregation would lead to a jungle.

But I agree with you - using the logic of being second fiddle to Obama should awake people that he isn't racist. Same as how people shouldn't call white people racist - when white people have worked for black People.

But you know - systematic racism right?
1 up, 4y
0 ups, 4y
They're both racists. Biden's legislative legacy is heinously racist. Rush is the foaming mouth of false white victimhood. Both trash people.
0 ups, 4y
On the one hand you have evidence that he hired a friend for a job and presumably did not violate equal employment opportunity laws while doing so

On the other hand you have Rush telling a black female caller to “take that bone out of your nose and call me back”

Amongst other things

https://newsone.com/16051/top-10-racist-limbaugh-quotes/
3 ups, 4y,
2 replies
The old “he is friends with a black person, how could he be racist” trope.

Let me explain it a little for you? You know how your dad has one black friend and he describes this black friend as “one of the good ones”... well your daddy is a racist.
3 ups, 4y,
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That daddy - yes, pretty racist. That example represents less than 1% of Caucasians in the United States.

Most white people aren't like that. We don't look at who we hang out with & think, man Brian sure is one of the good Asians. Susan is one of the good African Americans. Mike is one of the good white people....

You providing that example - to represent white people is highly inaccurate to the vast majority of white people. Your providing this example - to represent white people is one of the most racist things I've read this year.
0 ups, 4y,
2 replies
I highly doubt it’s as low as 1%. I live in NJ and have heard this sentiment multiple times. Decent people say these things, They just don’t know how indecent that certain action is.

That sentiment presents itself enough for me to notice that phrase and single it out. I graduated in a small high school class that had a very small representation of POC. I’ve been to the parties and stood around the kegs, listened as kids repeat this shit their parents say until they believe it. Me expressing this evident truth about people of my own skin tone is CERTAINLY not racist. I’m merely pointing out that it DOES exist heavily in white communities.
3 ups, 4y
Please show me the proof of this. I'm white, grew up in the 80s. We didn't have racial issues. When parents acted that way - we ignored them. I've only heard that kind of statement from people from my dads generation. I'm Gen X - him a Boomer.

It isn't the mass majority of white ppl like you say it is. I can agree I've heard it in my lifetime, but I barely see it in action anymore. That's bc kkk only make up maybe 15k ppl nation wide.
1 up, 4y,
1 reply
Give me money now because you’re racist and white and I’m Mexican. Whites oppressed Mexicans robbed them of their money. They took the Mexicans money and kept it for themselves. So pay me now all that you have robbed me of because you’re racist bigot and you want to oppress people like Jews blacks and others. You’re a bad person so give me money now repay me! Racist bigot
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
What? I don’t know what you’re talking about.
1 up, 4y
You’re white so your racist. You say minorities should get reparations so I’m coming to collect
1 up, 4y,
1 reply
You're exemplifying exactly what you were just accused of.
3 ups, 4y,
1 reply
I wasn't accused of anything in this comment. It was a response to a highly racist statement. You feeling ok?
1 up, 4y,
1 reply
Ur delusional bud
2 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Categorizing a group of people into a generalization is the epitome of racism. Which is what the person who commented did. So - it is you, who have again - a weak argument.
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Racism involves Dynamics of power. Keep ignoring that bud
0 ups, 4y
I'm the only one actually talking about it bud. Its 1% of the U.S. controlling 99% of the money. The only dynamics of power that are affecting people are monitary in nature. It doesn't mean black people aren't suffering - but its not because of their skin color. Its because of their financial status. Same as you or me.
4 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Funny you categorize your friends by skin color. That’s racism.
3 ups, 4y,
1 reply
I think he means as an example
1 up, 4y
Bluessol is intentionally misrepresenting what I said, he knows it, but the dregs will come in an upvote whatever he says because I’m speaking out against this silly conservative meme.
2 ups, 4y
He said plenty about white people with that statement. Which is a disturbingly inaccurate representation of what people actually do and are like.
5 ups, 4y,
2 replies
No but when a black man is PRODUCING your show, meaning he was the guy MAKING the product of a Rush Limbaugh show...it speaks volumes on whether or not the person who hosts the show is or isn't racist.

Are you saying James Golden was a racist too? Against black people ? Because he was in charge of the show... He called the shots. So is he an Uncle Tom?
0 ups, 4y
Not really?

While today, producers are more than willing to pull the plug over a difference of politics, opinions, values, or even mistakes; doesn't mean all producers don't willingly stick to a product (or in this case a person) who is making them a profit. That exchange has nothing to do with racism any more than him being black absolves anyone of racism.

I'm saying anyone can be racist. Including James Golden. I wouldn't call him an Uncle Tom; as naturally, that would be a racist view as well. If we were to strictly apply that term politically, one could easily argue any black person who doesn't vote Republican as Uncle Tom as well. That doesn't make it true, but it does make it racist.
1 up, 4y,
2 replies
"I have black employee, I can't be racist.".
3 ups, 4y
"Black people can have employees... How systematically racist of America." - soychad
3 ups, 4y,
1 reply
noooooo..... "Black Man have White Employee & helps guide White Man show." - to be more precise.
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Oh look a lazy strawman
3 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Oh look - another lazy straw man... Inaccurately representing your argument & then calling the other side straw man lol.
0 ups, 4y,
4 replies
2 ups, 4y,
1 reply
I hope you at least appreciate the accent based wording to make it sound like him in my response,
0 ups, 4y,
4 replies
Rush was a racist ass master as was most of his fan base. His staff having a black producer means nothing. Clarence Thomas is on the supreme court, that doesn't make the supreme court not racist. You really should try using your brain.
1 up, 4y
No - anti racism laws & such do that for the supreme court. Same as for you and me. Its illegal to discriminate based on sex age skin color religion and other factors.

We have laws in place for that.

Being a conservative doesn't make one a racist. Being a KKK member? Yes. But most of them put their suppott behind Biden this last election - an inconvient truth, but a truth.

Rush Limbaugh had white, black, chinese, Mexican, Irish, scotish, mixed races, Vietnamese, Russian, and native American audience. If most of his base is racist, which ones?
1 up, 4y
If he was racsit he wouldn't have a black staff member
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Clarence Thomas is black, therefore he isn’t racist
0 ups, 4y
And yet wealth and health disparities persist, laws be damned. Y'all are a caricature of the right.
0 ups, 4y
Wait, i thought couldn’t be racist.
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Blacks can’t be racist. Calling blacks racist is being racist
0 ups, 4y,
4 replies
It's always big brain time with conservatives
0 ups, 4y
I’m all for conversation on race. State your premise
0 ups, 4y
You didn’t answer my question. Do you agree blacks can’t be racist?
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Leftists said that. I’m merely using the same argument
0 ups, 4y
I agree that you aren't interested in a serious conversation on race.
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Don’t you agree blacks can’t be racist.
0 ups, 4y
The US is a settler colonial state and systemically and in policy a white supremacist neoimperial hegemony.
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0 ups, 4y,
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If James Golden was offended by what Rush said then wouldn't he have left early on instead of sticking around for 30+ years?

What you must get passed is all of the selectively edited clips that the left produced over the years to make Rush look bad. I wish I could tell you to actually listen to his show, the full 3 hours, for a couple of weeks but he's dead now.

I haven't listened to Rush with any regularity in over 20 years but never once has he ever said a racist thing in anything I have heard from him. Instead what he does is find quotes from liberals and re-uses them to make fun of liberal hypocrisy. Like when the Los Angles Times (perhaps one of the most leftist news paper that is still considered mainstream news) called Barack Obama, "The magic negro", Rush picked up on that and used it, not to insult blacks but to call out the L.A. Times for being racist and getting a pass for it just because they are liberal.

Rush wasn't a racist or a sexist or a homophobe, or any of the few other standard insults liberals only know. What Rush was was a man who made fun of liberals because of the insane ideas they so firmly believe in. And the fact that the left has spun themselves as the "normal" people and the "intelligent" people when they are just the "insane" people. Liberalism is based entirely on feeling and not intellect. It feels good to push for a $15 per hour minimum wage. But when you do the actual math is kills jobs and when a conservative tells you the facts then you just call them racist or one of the other standard insults. It used to shut us up 30 years ago but we just laugh at you or feel bad for you now.

Calling someone a racist just means, "I cannot refute your argument and I don't like you." It stopped being having anything with race decades ago.

Leftists are NOT "normal". They hate freedom and love to control others. That is what "cancel culture" is all about. You are just no happy unless you are controlling or being controlled. That is what that "make a difference" phrase was always all about. The leftist New Wave band, summed it up when they sang "And I want the world to change for me" in their song "Channel Z". You want to force others to be like how you want them to be.

We just want to be left alone. We'll change ourselves as best as we see fit and let everyone else live their lives as they see fit. We are Americans.
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Oh boo hoo did ur ideology daddy die? Whycome you are so butthurt about hearing obvious truths? Rush's grave deserved to be danced on. I'm still dancing. He was all of those things
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0 ups, 4y,
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You're a disgusting person. Every radio talk show host, conservative, liberal or non-political, owes Rush big time because he single-handedly saved the AM radio format from extinction. You don't have to agree with him to at least appreciate that he created thousands of jobs across America just because he got millions of listeners everyday on the AM radio band.

I remember when the left got bunch if morons together and created Air America to try to compete with Rush. They lasted maybe a year before their show fell apart. It turns out when liberals try to explain their ideas NO ONE LISTENS. Not even other liberals. Because their ideas make no sense. It has no foundation in reality.
0 ups, 4y
Dancin' on Rush's grave! Burn in hell you diabolical old freak.
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Also no one listens to talk radio anymore.
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0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
You don't but millions do. Maybe, just maybe, if you tried listening to one of the conservative talk shows (Hannity, Glenn Beck, Mark Levin, etc) for the full 3 hours for a few weeks you might learn a thing or two. Even if you still disagree with it at least you will understand a different point of view. And maybe, just maybe you'll stop with your prejudice and hatred.
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
I've listened to a bit of it and it's all totally interchangable false white victimhood and racist diarrhea.
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0 ups, 4y,
2 replies
What is a "bit" of it? Did you watch clips of his show on YouTube or perhaps the Huffington Post?

Did you ever listen to a full 3 hour broadcast? Did you actually listen to what he was saying?
0 ups, 4y,
2 replies
Did you ever study any critical social theory?
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0 ups, 4y,
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Uh oh. There was no reply on your explanation of critical race theory so I am replying here. I still haven't looked into it but what you have described is cultural Marxism.

Marx's theory was that there are two classes the Bourgeoisie (the business owner) and the Proletariat (the workers). Marx's goal was to drive a wedge between these groups and have "the workers of the world unite" against the business owners. Much like before him the French rebelled against the royalty and killed them all. Then when they were all dead they started killing the rich. When they were all dead they started killing each other.

To create the divide Marx played on the proletariat's greed. He told them they were being oppressed by the bourgeoisie and to rise up against them. That mentality permeates the left today. However, in addition to creating that divide they are also trying force people into groups and drive a wedge between those groups.

The claim is exactly the same, one group is oppressing another group.

This kind of mentality goes directly the opposite direction of what this nation was founded on. This nation was founded on freedom, not pitting one group against another. Yes there was slavery back in the early history of this nation and that is all over with now. Now everyone regardless of race has the same freedom as the next person.

But the cultural Marxists will always tell you that is not the case and that one group is the oppressor and all other groups are the oppressed.

The simple fact of the matter is that there is NO oppressors and there are NO oppressed. It is all a myth fabricated and perpetuated by the left. It was created because Democrats, when Lyndon Johnson was president, decided that instead of segregating blacks and taking away their rights, they would instead use them to get votes. So they told them and still tell them that unless you vote Democrat then you won't be able to succeed in this country. And after nearly 60 years of The Great Society blacks are no better off now than they were when Johnson was president.

Fortunately blacks are recognizing that and are going back to the Republican party that they used to be in before Johnson.

So CRT is not ignored by us, it is discredited by us. It is better to create harmony between races than accentuate any negativity, either real or imagined.
0 ups, 4y
Keep swilling that McCarthyist wrong juice.
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0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
I've heard of it but I have not looked into it. All I have heard about it is that it is some liberal propaganda that is designed to widen the gap between whites and blacks. But I would need to read it to be sure what it is really about.
0 ups, 4y
Critical social theory explains the dynamics of power between groups, their interactions, and their history. It is totally ignored in RW media.
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
I'm glad he is dead and never more than 5 minutes. Such hateful sewage eruptions
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0 ups, 4y,
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That is your problem. You do not understand Rush or what he was about. You only think you know. Do not let your ignorance blind you. Rush was NOT a racist. He was not anything you think he was.

Just because you only listened to about 5 minutes of Rush you cannot make a judgement call like that. Would you want me to sum up your entire life based on reading a few posts here on ImgFlip?

Just because someone does not march in lock step with the left does not automatically make them a racist. Just because you disagree with him does not make him a racist.

Think for yourself and do not listen to what other people say about Rush (and that includes me). Always, always, always go to the original source.
0 ups, 4y
He is exactly what I think he is. You have blinded yourself to the realities external to your life.
0 ups, 4y
The purpose of Rush is the purpose of RW media for all time. It's not changed in 100 years
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Maybe James Golden wasn't personally offended by what Rush said. That also doesn't mean Golden isn't, himself, racist. People who argue about the threat of White Genocide argue all the time that there are people white people who fall for a thing called White Guilt; so what if Golden is suffering from a similar affliction?

My point stands. Just because one black man absolves you, or a group of black people absolves you; doesn't mean you can't be racist or they, in and of themselves, cannot be racist either. It is a weak argument to say someone is innocent by association just as it is to say they are guilty by associations. That isn't always true.

Calling someone racist just means, "you have a generalist view that is racially motivated; or perhaps even one-sided." I agree that people too often use it as a dismissal. But that just means every charge of racisms is equally dismissive or deserving. That is in and of itself a generalism; which should be avoided.
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You sure are assuming a whole lot just to make your point.

What is this "White Genocide" you speak of and who is supposed to be trying to kill all white people? I haven't heard of "White Guilt" but I have heard of "liberal guilt." I am guessing they are the same thing. However "white guilt" implies all whites and I feel no guilt for what other people do. None whatsoever.

Your point doesn't stand. James Golden didn't "absolve" Rush of anything. Absolution is entirely irrelevant at this point. What is absolute relevant is your belief that all conservatives are racists and that the left are the good guys who are going to save the world. BS. Your party is NOT the party that will save the world, save blacks or save anyone. Your party is the Socialist party who are going to enslave the world and take our of our inalienable rights away.

While you are priding yourself in not being racist your fake president is talking about how blacks don't know how to use the internet to register to vote. Do you even comprehend how racist that is? I know how to use the internet to register to vote AND I also know black people who are much smarter than I am.

The fact of the matter is that there are an increasing number of blacks who are leaving your plantations altogether because they realized that your party is just using them. That started when your party decided to stop trying to kill blacks and decided to manipulate them instead. That is when Lyndon Johnson said, "I'll have these n******* voting Democrat for a 100 years".

Prior to that blacks were all Republicans, even MLK Jr was a Republican until he worked out some deal with JFK.

Conservative blacks do not hate their own race. They never have. Your party is really good at making sure that conservative blacks have no voice whatsoever. They talk like they don't even exist.

Hmm... I just noticed I have been saying "your party" a lot. I am not a Republican so this is not a
Republican vs Democrat conversation. I am a member of the Constitution Party.

Anyway, James Golden has been Rush's friend for decades. Everything that I have been learning about Rush's private life is that he was a quiet but very generous man. He treated everyone with dignity and respect.

So you can continue to spread your hate and believe what you want OR you can actually use that atrophied piece of gray matter and think for yourself. And realize that only racists are racists. Not everyone who disagrees with you.
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
What assumptions am I making?

I have only made hypothesis and drawn analogies. The only concrete thing I've said is knowing a black person or group of them, even a particular one, doesn't absolve you of racism. I have not called Limbaugh, Trump, nor Golden racist. Merely that they cannot be in any way exempt from the label of racist based on the color of Golden's skin.

"White Guilt" and "White Genocide" are typical White Supremacist jargon meant to prey on the fears of white people who either feel left out, left behind, or in some way disenfranchised by the emergence of other cultures or their general ignorance of others. It is similar to the jargon of "White Privilege" which racists also use in order to appeal to the perspective that black people don't always get the same benefit of the doubt. The difference between these two racist viewpoints is one paints a picture of the white race being completely genocide by diversity or racial mixing; while the other simply is trying to ask for sympathy. Granted, it depends on the context in which individuals use this term. For example, me simply saying them doesn't make me a white supremacist. Just as talking about race doesn't specifically make one a racist. Though, I think at some point, racist view points inevitably creep into any conversation about racism. Which is natural. The importance of any adult wishing to discuss such things is to not be so quickly to generalize and dismiss. Which is how many conservatives feel when they broach the topic of racism no matter what level.

My point absolutely does stand. The point of the OP's meme IS that because Golden is black, and was close to Limbaugh absolves him of any comment that was alleged to be racist. This is a strawman argument. Most memes, are strawman; but this one is a bit too on the nose to not point out.

"What is absolute relevant is your belief that all conservatives are racists and that the left are the good guys who are going to save the world. BS."

Now who is making assumptions? I never said any of that. I don't think all conservatives are racist. That would be generalizing. And while I might be guilty of generalizing occasionally, that doesn't mean I pride myself at not being racist.

Anyone can be racist. That's not a hateful conclusion. That is an important observation in relevance to the fact that Limbaugh knew Golden yet so many think Limbaugh to be racist.
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"The only concrete thing I've said is knowing a black person or group of them, even a particular one, doesn't absolve you of racism"

A hypothesis and an assumption are generally the same thing. The only real difference between those two words is that it is generally assumed (no pun intended) that a hypothesis is an educated assumption where an assumption is just someone's guess, educated or not.

Your assumption is that Rush was a racist. You assume that because Rush had a black friend and employee that this "absolved" him of racism. The assummption is that Rush needed absolution. If Rush wasn't a racist then he did not need absolution. I have actually listened to his show. He never once gave me any indication that he was a racist. He made fun of the left all of the time but that does not make him a racist.

But this goes back to a newer definition of racism that only the left holds. This definition is that if you disagree with anything a leftist says then you are a racist. Every liberal and leftist will disagree with that definition but actions speak much louder than words. Lefists are calling conservatives racists, Fascists, Nazis all of the time. Maybe you have or have not called us that at any point in your life. The point is as long as you support people who do say that then you are part of the problem.

You say that you haven't made the assumption that all conservatives are racist but you vote for people who do believe that and you probably associate with people who also believe that. And if you were to tell me that you even have a conservative friend at this point am I supposed to say that your conservative friend "absolves" you of that prejudice?

I can only speak for myself because I do not know what is in the hearts and minds of other people but I don't hate anyone. I look at skin color as just a feature much like hair color or eye color. So for me to hate people based on skin color then logically I should also hate people based on eye color or size of ears or noses or some other external feature.

Because those are external features I don't make a big deal out of someone being the first [fill in the blank] to do something. Why should I? You never hear of people saying that this is the first green eyed person to hold some political office do you? The most racist thing (truly systemically racist) is identity politics.
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"Your assumption is that Rush was a racist."

But I've made no such assumptions.

"...you vote for people who do believe that and you probably associate with people who also believe that."

More assumptions. I don't let any hasty generalizations limit my voting choices.

"I can only speak for myself"

And Rush Limbaugh and James Golden, and frequently myself in these last two replies.

"The most racist thing (truly systemically racist) is identity politics."

While I agree that identity politics is also a form of racism, I don't think it's the most racist thing. Denying people rights based on their race or skin color, in my opinion, is the most racist thing. Right now, that conversation continues in the form of whether law enforcement use unnecessary force in regards to people of color in order to end their right to live. And while the statistics do not support those who've voiced these concerns, it doesn't mean the conversation is over. Nor does it mean that form of racism is extinct. Nor that racism can never be addressed or rectified.
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Why, yes. Yes I did make assumptions. However, I never called you or anyone else a racist unless they were truly a racist. There is no dispute that David Dukes is a racist. He'll probably even tell you that himself.

But you insist that Rush needed absolution by James Golden. Absolution from what?

Yes, being denied rights based on anything is the worst thing but who is being denied rights today? What rights are blacks being denied?

Maybe first you should understand what a right is. While I won't make assumptions about you but to Democrat a right is whatever they declare is a right, even if it isn't a right. Health care is NOT a right, it is a privilege.

A right is a freedom that does not infringe someone else's freedom. For example we have the right to free speech because saying what we want does not infringe on someone else's right. Other people might not like what you say but you still have the right to say it. However, you do not have the right to be listened to. To make someone else listen to you infringes on their freedom.

Health care cannot possible be a right because you cannot force everyone else involved in the heath industry to take care of you. You can pay them but you cannot force them.

A college education is not a right for the same reason.

The left has defined a few "rights" that only persons that fit into certain groups certain rights. Those are privileges. Rights also have to be universal to everyone. No one can have a right that someone else does not have. They can have a privilege but not a right.

You may disagree with this definition but it is not my definition. It is the definition of what an inalienable right is. It is the definition given by our founding fathers.

So with that in mind, what rights are being denied blacks or any other race?

I know free speech and the right to bear arms have been under attack by the left for some time now. Since the Capitol Bldg riots the right to peaceably assemble and to petition the government for a redress of grievances are under attack by the left.

Social media sites have been violating free speech rights of conservatives and Christians. They can either be a platform or a publisher. If they are a publisher then they have complete control over the content but they are responsible for copyrighted content. If they are a platform the law protects them from copyright infringement but they must provide an open platform to everyone.
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A lot of what you wrote is vastly off-topic and we don't have the ability to expand on all of this. So, I'll keep my responses to everything above that was on topic.

"But you insist that Rush needed absolution by James Golden."

No, I didn't. Are you even reading what I wrote?

"What rights are blacks being denied? So with that in mind, what rights are being denied blacks or any other race?"

Due process. Sometimes their own life. If unarmed black man dies in police custody, then that man has been denied these rights. I'm not talking about people in cars, wielding knives, etc. Unarmed means unarmed.

And the people who wish to stifle this conversation by misdirecting with tangents and false dichotomies are people who you should suspect for having an agenda. It is great that you want to talk about a wide berth of political issues but if you think it's all connected or should be simplified and lumped together under two (or a handful) of political philosophies then you are ignoring the individual liberties of people who do not fit into your cookie-cutter perspective.

In short, you're guilty of generalization.

Maybe, try not to do that?
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"Nope! The meme implies he can't be racist based on a racist viewpoint."

First off, I didn't post or make this meme. Second, that is not what the meme says. All it essentially says is that James Golden says Rush isn't a racist. How is any of that "based on a racist viewpoint?"

I'm not saying this is you but why is the left so obsessed with playing spot the racist? Big deal if someone is a racist. Just ignore them and leave them alone if they truly a racist.

This game the left plays is way out of hand. They are calling people and things racist that have nothing to do with race.

And I kind of think that is what you are doing with this meme by saying it is "based on racism". Is it racist to reiterate what someone says or is it only racist if that someone is black?
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"Just because I said Golden may be racist doesn’t mean I’m arguing he is. My point was that Golden alone doesn’t absolve Limbaugh of any claims of racist remarks."

And my point is that Rush did not need "absolution". He never said anything racist. If you had listened to him for any length of time - and I don't mean 5 or 10 minute, I mean the full 3 hour radio broadcast for at least 2 weeks - then you would understand him.

His jokes were never intended for a sound bite, you had to listen to him for a while to get what he was talking about.

I never said blacks can't be racists. EVERYONE can be racists about EVERYONE else. I have seen Asians from one country act like they were superior to all other Asians (and everyone else). I have experienced racism from blacks and Hispanics. My wife is half Mexican and she has family members who have said bad things about blacks. My wife used to get harassed in Jr. High School by the Mexicans because she wasn't Mexican enough.

Racism is not a problem for just one race. And people can hate their own race. I doubt that was the case with Golden or any other black conservative. But I do not that both Karl Marx and Adolf Hitler were Jews who hated all other Jews and wanted to see them exterminated. Hitler was the only one who had any power to attempt that.

You are right. If you are a racist against X group of people and you have a friend who a member of that group then that does not absolve you of being a racist.

But FIRST and FOREMOST you have to know if the person who are accusing of being a racist is actually a racist. Rush Limbaugh was not a racist, therefore he does not need to absolution by his black friend. All Golden ever did was say that in all his years of knowing Rush he never believed Rush was a racist. That is it. That is not absolution that is an opinion. Golden never said "Rush is a racist but I forgive him." He just said Rush was not a racist and nothing Rush ever said offended him as a black man.

This meme doesn't have the quote I found and made a meme out of last week but this is what Golden said:
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Irrelevant whether you think Limbaugh was racist or not. The meme perpetuates a racist viewpoint that having a black friend absolves you of any alleged racism. This is not true.

I can keep repeating what I said too infinitum. I have no interest in discussing whether or not Limbaugh was a racist. I don’t care. You do.
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Would it make you feel better if I said if people thought Limbaugh was racist, and you liked him, that doesn’t mean you’re racist too?

Our individual actions and words determines how racist someone is. Nor is someone who was racist at one point mean they are forever racist. It is usually unlikely for people to change their racist viewpoints but it is also unlikely for racist people to have all the same degree of racist viewpoints.

I personally think everyone is racist. But that not everyone holds the same racist viewpoint or perspective. Nor are all racists dangerous or need to be shut down. There are degrees of acceptable racism. And as the cultural zeitgeist shifts; these things also shift as to what is and isn’t acceptable. It has had the unfortunate side effect of making people think their viewpoints are irrelevant. This just isn’t true.
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Yeah, sometimes I just blathering on and can't shut up. Sorry about that.

"Maybe James Golden wasn't personally offended by what Rush said. That also doesn't mean Golden isn't, himself, racist. People who argue about the threat of White Genocide argue all the time that there are people white people who fall for a thing called White Guilt; so what if Golden is suffering from a similar affliction?"

You did infer that Golden was a racist because he wasn't offended by what Rush said. So logically if what Rush said didn't offend Golden because Golden is a racist then you are saying Rush is a racist because any other black person would be offended by what Rush said. This is not an assumption, this is logic used on your exact statement.

You did not use the words "Rush is a racist" but you did say what Rush said was offensive. And if his "offensive" words did not offend a racist then his words must be racist.

You started this thread with:
"If black people can also be racist then having a black friend doesn’t absolve you of racism either."

Who is the subject matter of this thread? Once again you did not specify that you were talking about Limbaugh or Golden but they are the subject matter. Golden is Limbaugh's "black friend" and therefore, based on what you said, Golden didn't "absolve" Rush of what? Being a good friend? Being a talk show host? What else is there other than racism.

"Due process. Sometimes their own life. If unarmed black man dies in police custody, then that man has been denied these rights. I'm not talking about people in cars, wielding knives, etc. Unarmed means unarmed."

I am not saying that some very horrible things haven't happened to blacks in recent history. And a very small minority of cops are racists, about the same percentage as a general cross section of the United States.

But you can also find examples of this happening to all other races, including whites. In fact it is more likely to happen to whites just because there are more white people in this country than any other race.

So the question remains, what rights are being denied?

On the flip side of that everyone's right are being trampled on by Congress, State legislators, county legislators and city councils. Every time the Democrats gain power rights get thrown out the window. Most of the time when the Republicans get power they also throw rights out the window.

Those rights are everyone's regardless of race. Dems don't want you to focus on those rights.
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Just because I said Golden may be racist doesn’t mean I’m arguing he is. My point was that Golden alone doesn’t absolve Limbaugh of any claims of racist remarks.

What I said is what I said. Are you saying black people cannot be racist? I don’t think so, nor would I be intellectually disingenuous to argue that point. Nor am I making the claim that because Limbaugh was racist, Golden is racist by association. Just as knowing Golden doesn’t make Limbaugh not racist by assassination. The premise of the meme is that Limbaugh cannot be racist because he has a “black friend”. This is a racist viewpoint.

I also already said the statistics don’t back their argument. That doesn’t mean the debate is over.

This one, however, is.

Whether or not Limbaugh was racist, it matters not that a friend of his was black.
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"Would it make you feel better if I said if people thought Limbaugh was racist, and you liked him, that doesn’t mean you’re racist too?"

This question does not go with the statements you made after this question. The obvious answer is what you said after this question. It is your words and your actions that make you a racist. It is not the words or actions of other.

I liked Rush Limbaugh. If it wasn't for him I wouldn't have studied and learn things for myself. Rush played huge influence on shaping who I am. Even though I wasn't able to listen to him in over 20 years because of my job. Occasionally I would get to listen to him in the car if I happened to be in the car when he was on. I kind of lost favor with him during the 2016 elections because he was for Trump and I wanted Cruz to win in the primaries. I just did not like Trump back then. I still have problems with him. He spent money like Obama and Obama was the worst president in our history for spending. Biden looks like he will take that away dishonor away from Obama.

I agree with those statements. I believe everyone, regardless of race, has said and might even have done racist things at some point in their life. But that does not make them a racist.

I also do not thing that racism is the absolute worst thing a person can be in life. I think a murderer, a rapist (especially a child rapist), and a thief are much worse. I am not saying that you think the same or the opposite, I am just spouting off my opinion.

I do believe that this "cancel culture" gains even more power that the days of forgiveness for anything are gone, especially for conservatives and Christians. If a person ever said anything remotely racist they lose their jobs.

If I were king for one day, I would make a decree that all racist words be nullified. That they would cease to have any meaning or validity. If you take the power that those words seem to have over people then racism virtually dies overnight. There would still be David Dukes type people running around for all races but they are such an insignificant minority that nothing they could ever say would have any meaning. And if such a person tried to violate someone else's rights then we already have laws for that.
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"I can keep repeating what I said too infinitum. I have no interest in discussing whether or not Limbaugh was a racist. I don’t care. You do."

Then stop inferring he is a racist.

"Irrelevant whether you think Limbaugh was racist or not. The meme perpetuates a racist viewpoint that having a black friend absolves you of any alleged racism. This is not true."

Are you saying that the only reason Rush hired Golden in the first place was to absolve himself of racism?
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"Then stop inferring he is a racist."

But, I'm not inferring he is racist. The meme says he isn't racist based on a racist viewpoint.

"Are you saying that the only reason Rush hired Golden in the first place was to absolve himself of racism?"

Nope! The meme implies he can't be racist based on a racist viewpoint.
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