You'd think this would be obvious.

Many families have been separated when they have come here legally through a checkpoint and claimed asylum.

Nice job highlighting the very thing most Americans should be able to agree upon. Trying to shake it up/lie, doesn't cut it. Most people on the left do not want people crossing the border. Most decent people realize government sanctioned orphaning, used as a deterrent is poor policy and a sad state of affairs for a country like America. If this is making America great again, I will sure hate to see this place when he's succeeded!

Taking kids from parents is NOT an Obama policy.

Why would you ask that I go to the border? This is Trumps mess, not mine!

Why don't you go, or did you when it did NOT happen under Obama?

You are simply wrong.
Obama never took children away from people who crossed the border legally.
In fact, you didn't even know it was happening till I TOLD YOU!

You are so dumb you make me laugh.

Go to the top.
Carefully read the meme again.

The meme is incorrect. That is why I'm posting here.

Trump is taking children from people who have come here LEGALLY.

You really need to get that into your thick skull.

Where is your proof?
Where is your link to state that no children have been separated from parents who have come here legally?
I've given you a link that they HAVE!

He never offers proof, unless it comes from his prefabricated cue cards.
Yeah, a quick dismissal, perhaps a grand quote from some long dead man's tome typically used to impress at cocktail parties sponsored by the history dept at school at the beginning of the semester.

I see the party hack bot known as Timby#1972 is at it again.

See how he offers zero proof on his side and discounts all proof that he's wrong? Hard to believe this guy can make it through life with such poor reflective skills.

Oh, "who cares what Jeff Sessions thinks". Oh, only part of the admin who created the rules we're talking about here so yeah,..... guess that doesn't matter in the least.

I've given you two links. You've given none. The show of proof is in your court.

Jeff Sessions himself admitted the reason for doing this is for deterrence!

How can you be so ill informed?
Must be that whole living under a rock thing.

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/07/13/immigrant-families-separated-kids-custody-despite-end-zero-tolerance/

Hey I just found this 2014 videos of people protesting Trumps massive deportations separating millions children from their families. Check them out:

https://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-mayday-protests-20140501-story.html

https://www.wbez.org/shows/wbez-news/protesters-want-obama-to-end-mass-deportations/a3cee9a0-84cc-4a30-b718-de9768724cce

Glad that there are people like you who care about the children. I bet you go to Honduras, not Mexico since that's the second wealthiest country in the whole Americas, to build homes and donate you personal time and wealth for those kids wellness. I want to be like you when I grow up.

Funny the man that was voted in to stop illegal entry, is doing nothing but increasing illegal entry. And is at best, half as good at deporting as Obama.

Hm, you’d think that getting here legally is as simple as crossing the border illegally, rather than being a process that can literally take decades while they rot in outside-the-border camps.

Do you really think that any other government welcomes illegal immigration? Are you that naive? or just 13?

I don’t think that, I’m saying our legal process to get in takes decades, so their desperation is more than understandable, since people have died or suffered immensely waiting for the supposedly great United States of America to listen to their application for three seconds about their situation.

Not true. I have a Korean friend that got a visa to stay and she barely spoke English. That was in 1994-95. Still there. Japanese friend and his wife also got visas and job there in LA. Been there 25 years now. Not much effort at all. Just stayed legal.

Getting inside in the first place is what I’m referring to, that’s a difficult process through legal avenues, many of them wait decades.

Seeking asylum is legal

Visiting my friend is legal. Breaking into his house is not.

It is, but crossing the border illegally is still illegal. The right way to seek asylum is to apply at a legal port of entry. Getting caught while trying to sneak in and then claiming asylum is cheating the law and is still illegal.

When you attempt to enter through a Valid Checkpoint...

Remember the dude from El Salvador? who got his toddler (and himself ) Killed attempting to cross the Rio Grande...

EVERY bleeding heart story showed their bodies in the water and cited them as 'Asylum seekers'... NEWSFLASH: Swimming the Rio Grande is not a valid Method of Entry

Excellent points, especially how the catastrophes are twisted into bleeding heart stories..

How many children of asylum seeking parents who did so via legal channels have been separated from their parents?

Your comment is like like saying “shopping is legal” when the topic is about shoplifting.

No one knows that number because this admin isn't releasing it. It is not zero. It is many.

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/immigration-border-crisis/they-came-seeking-asylum-now-they-want-their-children-back-n886781

I would think someone as intelligent as you proclaim to be would know the basic difference between entering legally and breaking in.
Car shopping is legal. Grand theft auto, be it for a joy ride or to keep, is illegal.

For the record, Americans who commit crimes get separated from their children when they get arrested and go to jail. I don't hear any of you bleeding hearts complaining about that..?

Democrats say they are not terrorists or criminals and they will assimilate just fine.
Well how is anyone to believe that when they are already entering illegally?!
They are already breaking the rules!
Even Mr. Obama said similar things about boarder security when he was president!
But because the media wasn't trying to paint him as a monster, no one cared about his policy.

You know who does get separated from their families, in actual tragedies?

The Americans who are MURDERED by those who are in this country illegally.

I am familiar with one case in Texas. Retired grandparents. Running to the store for groceries. Turned right on a green light. Illegal alien ran a red light, doing *40 MPH* over the posted limit. T-boned the Americans.

Big deal, right?

Well, turns out the illegal had no license, no insurance, no command of the English language, AND 2 unbelted children in the car. Both Americans survived the crash, though one took three days to die. The one who died had more broken bones than Evel Knievel. The pain medication wasn't enough to help. Imagine that agony for THREE DAYS.

What did the police responding to the accident do? Gave the illegal a ride home. This was despite DUI being suspected AND listed as such in the official report.

So when you start shedding crocodile tears over these poor, poor CRIMINALS - try to shed one for the American victims of those who WERE NEVER SUPPOSED TO BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

I have no problem sending people who are illegal, back to their home countries. The dreamers? That's different.

Nearly half of fortune 500 companies were founded by American immigrants or their children.

If we've invested American money in young people, we should reap the rewards and not ship them to another country so they can compete against us. It doesn't make sense to teach people the American way, so they can go somewhere else and be successful.

Regardless, your story has no bearing on people coming to this country and legally seeking asylum, LEGALLY and having their kids taken away from them.

That is no policy America should operate.

Yes there is a difference. I'm talking about the dreamers who we have invested billions of dollars into. Shouldn't have brought it up. We're too far removed from making any kind of deal to keep them in the country and not waste the money we've spent on them.

Like I stated in the beginning of my post, "I have no problem sending people who are illegal, back to their home countries".

Dreamers, which is DACA: Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals.
Meaning......... They are kids who have been here and gone to our schools.

How do I know we've invested billions?
Your question has an obvious answer for any non-deranged individual.

I doubt that ANY of the 500 companies were created by illegals. No problem answering the question. Has no consequence on the conversation.

Two second search says 80 billion. Obviously, billions. Any person of normal intelligence would know it has to be at least in the billions.

https://www.lifezette.com/2017/09/shock-us-taxpayers-have-spent-more-than-100-billion-on-schooling-welfare-for-daca-immigrants/

Of course, you'll just say my source is leftist propaganda.

Don't like the word, "dreamers"?
Call them whatever the hell you like. I could care less.

You want to argue about the color of the sky? I say it's blue.

Look, I'm just stating what should be obvious to any normal, sane person. If you have problems with my source, like I knew you would, YOU search for the proof to prove me wrong.

You're not worth my time.

There are around 700,000 daca kids in the nation. At 15k a year, do the math. This isn't rocket science.

So.......

You don't think illegals should be here and want them out and now.....

You're arguing with me saying that the amount we've invested in DACA kids must be wrong cuz we couldn't possibly have spent that much on them...?

So, you are basically arguing FOR what I'm saying. Nice work.

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/immigration-border-crisis/they-came-seeking-asylum-now-they-want-their-children-back-n886781

Kids are being separated from parents going through LEGAL checkpoints.

Many kids have been taken away from parents who have gone to checkpoints seeking asylum legally.

Are you an idiot?

Even the gov doesn't know where half these people are. It's happening every day. Government sanctioned orphaning is happening when the kids get shipped off to a different detention center while the parent/s wait for asylum, then get deported without their kids.

It's nearly impossible to then locate parents in a 3rd world country 1000's of miles away.

What's the context?
What the hell do you think the context is?
How can you possibly even be posting on an issue you have no knowledge of?

Not for a moment, do I believe all right leaning people are idiots or, "retards". But, you are a bonafide asshat.

You don't know shit about that which you speak.

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/immigration-border-crisis/they-came-seeking-asylum-now-they-want-their-children-back-n886781

It's happening every day.

Anyone who labels an entire political arm made up of nearly half the population as all, "retards", pretty much says it all.

Now NBC is leftist news. You're an extreme, ideological fool, incapable of learning.

This entire thread, this meme, is based upon ignorance like yours. In reality, people are losing their kids when they have crossed the border legally. The meme is invalid.

You've said the law is for fools.

Have you been watching any real news with what's been happening overnight? Your comrade's manifesto will likely be posted within a week or so.

Don't you have a mall to go shoot up? Looks like you're about to blow a gasket.

You must be a joy at family reunions.

(2)Exceptions
(A)Safe third country
Paragraph (1) shall not apply to an alien if the Attorney General determines that the alien may be removed, pursuant to a bilateral or multilateral agreement, to a country (other than the country of the alien’s nationality or, in the case of an alien having no nationality, the country of the alien’s last habitual residence) in which the alien’s life or freedom would not be threatened on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion, and where the alien would have access to a full and fair procedure for determining a claim to asylum or equivalent temporary protection, unless the Attorney General finds that it is in the public interest for the alien to receive asylum in the United States.

Now you gone and done it.