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This is obviously not my meme. I took it from another source (in this case, Facebook) and wanted to share it here. | KNOW YOUR HISTORY | image tagged in memes,william harvey carney,civil war,union,medal of honor,african american | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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6 ups, 1 reply
Wow-this gave me goosebumps!!!
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Trump Hugging Flag | MEANWHILE MR. BABY BONE SPURS | image tagged in trump hugging flag | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Trump in the dark,,, | DON'T YOU RIDICULE ME OR I'LL TWEETER YOU! | image tagged in trump in the dark | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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5 ups, 2 replies
well but the democrats were for the war
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2 ups, 1 reply
TNK, I recently read several histories on Gen. George Custer, a Democrat, who supported slavery, but fought on the Union side in order to improve his chances at winning the presidency as the Democrat candidate, and he had a strong chance at the upcoming convention, but Little Big Horn did not propel him to office. I was surprised to read it but it was documented in several different histories.
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Leonardo Dicaprio Cheers Meme | I HAD NO IDEA | image tagged in memes,leonardo dicaprio cheers | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
"But Little Big Horn did not propel him to office"
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6 ups
But he forever voted Democrat in Chicago after that ;)
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3 ups, 1 reply
Modern day Democrats?
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1 up, 1 reply
no
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2 ups
Exactly. Modern day Democrats are not Civil War-era Democrats
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4 ups, 1 reply
lol facebook is a good place to steal memes from it has better memes than that weird person called 4chan lol
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0 ups
I get them randomly. It just depends on what my family and few friends post.
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4 ups, 1 reply
Thanks for putting this up, I had forgotten this gem. A true American.
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4 ups, 2 replies
No problem. I enjoy these types of stories.
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3 ups
Agreed. Everytime I see someone disrespecting the flag, I tend to think of the people who died to protect the flag and what it represents.
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2 ups
Very nice
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4 ups, 4 replies
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5 ups, 4 replies
It's about what you're kneeling for. Kaepernick isn't respecting anything.
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2 ups, 1 reply
no respect... that must be why he went from sitting in protest to kneeling in protest.
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6 ups, 1 reply
He respects himself only. Signing a million dollar deal with Nike proved he doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself.
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1 up, 2 replies
respects himself only.. that must be why he donated a million dollars to charity.
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4 ups, 1 reply
Great, he gave to charity....
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2 ups, 1 reply
how did Al Capone get in the mix?? and which charities did he give to?
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4 ups, 1 reply
Al Capone was very generous with his blood money. My point is giving to charity doesn't always mean much.
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2 ups, 2 replies
did i miss an issue of the National Enquirer? which one of Kaepernick's knees killed someone?
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3 ups, 1 reply
It has nothing to do with whether he killed someone or not. That wasn't the original point.
2 ups
So giving to charity and changing your protest from sitting to taking a knee (in compromise with someone else) both don't say anything as far as him being selfish.. but taking a deal offered by Nike proves it? How does that prove it anyway?
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3 ups, 1 reply
Even murderers and criminals give to charity, therefore giving to a charity is not proof of respect or respectability.
2 ups
Nobody here mentioned respect(?).. The topic here was selfishness.
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3 ups
Tax deductable, natch.

And to what charity, and to what end, other than publicizing it to pat himself on the back?
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2 ups
Kneeling to highlight your concern over perceived racial bias in the legal enforcement system is somehow disrespectful? You do know that he chose kneeling in order to continue to show respect to the flag while doing something noticeably different, right?
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The comparison between kneeling NFL players and war-fighters is a strawman. The claim that kneeling before flag or during anthem is also strawman. Address the claim of social injustice, argue against that claim and defeat that. Otherwise you're using strawman arguments to defeat a cause for social justice and equal treatment, which is, by definition, racist.
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1 up, 1 reply
How about kneeling in water to fake your viewers out for shock value? i.imgflip.com/2i91nu.jpg (click to show)
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1 up
Man, the lengths these guys go to just to improve the "wow" factor. I'm a firm believer that a lot of the ills of our society started with the 24-hour news cycle. Instead of getting solid reporting once or twice a day, we now have a non-ending stream of "latest" and "breaking news" reports that are in competition with each other for alarmism.
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0 ups, 1 reply
Since Kaepernick.
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2 ups, 2 replies
Nope, don't buy it. He chose kneeling as a sign of respect. Also, unless you're a dictator, one person doesn't have the power to change the meaning of something for an entire country. That's a ludicrous notion in and of itself.

I'm not saying you have to like or agree with Kaepernick. Personally, I think many of his examples of supposed racial prejudice in our legal enforcement system is]]are blatantly incorrect (although I'd also admit that occasionally the inexcusable does happen). Also, he's clearly not a very good QB (which I thought before he even started kneeling), so it makes sense to me that he's no longer in the NFL. Finally, I hate it when corporations get political, so the Nike thing irks me. But even so, THIS is a dumb thing to roast the man over, because he went out of his way to choose something that did respect the flag. Let's crucify people of crimes they're actually guilty of, shall we? Or is that too reasonable of a request?
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3 ups, 2 replies
And what exactly is he protesting? White cops killing black kids? Maybe all cops who kill black kids?

Maybe before he sold out to Nike, he should have looked into Nike's practice of use underage children to work their factories overseas being paid slave wages so he could be paid millions all based on a lie.

Perhaps he should be protesting black on black crime in the inner cities of Chicago and Detroit and every other large city in this country. If he truly cared enough about unjust killings he'd be protesting not only the bad cops (which in his twisted mind are all cops, especially whitey), but all the bigger issues like kids as young as 10 murdering each other in the ghettos because they want to be in a gang.

I don't buy your opinion that Kaepernick is protesting anything of worth. He's doing it for the publicity because he failed as a QB and his cop hating girlfriend filled his head with a bunch of bullshit.
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Of course violence of any type is deplorable. You could pick "white" on "white" killings, serial killings, or a whole host of others. But what is the point of protesting those?

Seriously, answer that question in your head. Because, in the end, it's a pointless endeavor. No one in authority is instigating, endorsing, or otherwise perpetuating those evils. And in that critical difference lies the point of his actions.

Again, many of the cited situations are justified on the part of the officer shooting. However, there are several instances where someone loses their life in an unjustified manner, and it we would be morally remiss to treat that as inconsequential.

Is there plenty of crime in this world? Yes, there is. Does it matter when someone loses their life when they don't deserve to? Of course. The distinction he is making is when it happens by the hand of those who swore to serve and protect, then that something needs to be noticed.
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5 ups, 3 replies
White supremacist who 'shot a police officer' is believed to be on the run with a woman on 'most wanted list' - you are an ass... a real ass. tell it to the hundreds of families.
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4 ups, 3 replies
So you don't care about black kids killing each other in the hoods? Just about "racist" cops killing unarmed black men? Is that what you're telling me? Are you telling me you don't care about Kaepernick selling out to a company that forces children to work as slaves in their factories as he gets paid by said company millions? That doesn't matter to you, but me pointing it out does?

You want to claim that I don't give a shit about the civilians being shot down for no reason at all by cops because I care about bringing out the fact black on black crime is at an all time high in this country?

Whatever makes you sleep better at night.
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0 ups
Strawman again. Wanted, social justice.
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3 ups
What happened, they made fun of your plaid socks back in school?
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4 ups, 1 reply
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4 ups, 2 replies
He does stand for nothing. And his selling out to Nike is proof of it. He doesn't give a shit about anyone. If he did, he wouldn't have taken the Nike deal....asshole.
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2 ups, 1 reply
I don't give a shit. I wear Nike. And I'll continue buying their shoes. But don't act all high and mighty and be a hypocrite at the same time. You don't seem to understand the issue I have with it so I'll stop talking to you.
1 up
Another strawman. It isn't about his Nike deal. The original issue is social justice and how brown, black, white, red people want it.
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2 ups
Moron
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3 ups, 1 reply
Oh, and by the way, I didn't say that cops killing unarmed civilians is bullshit. I said that I believe Kaepernick is full of bullshit and that he is only protesting for himself.
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Maybe not a strawman, but you still need to argue that there is nothing to be gained in the realm of social justice. And the available data overwhelming show that social injustice is rampant. The unavailable data is the data of police involved shootings that do not get reported anywhere and often get scrubbed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaD84DTGULo
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You are 100% correct about learning respect. Maybe if their guardians or aunties would have taught them to respect authority, some of them might still be alive. In prison no doubt, but still alive. Typical rhetoric though, "I don't have to listen to no police, I knows my rights", "they just be profiling", "he was such a good boy, getting his life together, planning on going to school to take care of his eleventeen kids" blah, blah effing blah.
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1 up, 1 reply
I understand and respect your point of view regarding the need to consider a person's intent, but I don't think it is accurate in this case. If the symbol is disrespectful and offensive to others, it is a hard sell that you are using it as a sign of respect. Another example might be the Confederate flag - to many it is a symbol of slavery and oppression, and to others a symbol of heritage and common suffering (Reconstruction). But worst of all, if K's kneeling was truly intended as a respectful dissent, he would not have continued this form of protest when he was accused of being disrespectful.
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It is the right of others to say what they think I do/say means. However, it is not their right to supplant what I actually meant with what they think.

Their opinion is their opinion, to which they are entitled. However, that doesn't change the reality of my motivation.
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2 ups, 5 replies
If find sad to glorify a guy who preferred taking care of a piece of fabric over taking care of his own life. To me idealism and heroism leads to complete idiocy...
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5 ups
You're entitled to think that.
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3 ups, 1 reply
A 3'x5' poly-cotton American flag costs $7.55 at a "low cost flag store". Each human being is only worth about $4.50 in chemical components. Thus the flag is worth more than a human body.

In other words, taking away the intangible essence that gives both things greater value than the cost of their components is utterly meaningless and "complete idiocy".
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You can break down the flag to its chemical components, the idea of America would still be intact... because it's an idea not a real thing. If you break a human being into its chemical components, you don't get a human beings...

People can break... not ideas. That's why I think we should care more about people than ideas... Heroism and terrorism are similar on this matter, they value the idea over people...
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3 ups, 1 reply
A driving license is just ink, paper/ plastic.
Money is just metal /paper/ plastic / ink / digits on a screen.
"I love you" is just noise.
You can break anything down into its base form if you want to break down its symbolism.
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0 ups, 1 reply
Sure. "I love you" is noise but the other person is a real human being, with real emotions, a person that can die... not the flag, not money...
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0 ups, 1 reply
Sorry, but I think you're still missing my point. All three are designed for human beings to interpret to mean something more than just the sum of the parts.
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0 ups, 1 reply
I do get your point. Meaning is a human thing, that does not exist in the real world, that makes things more than what they are... fair enough...

Now we've said that, it does not mean that all meaning is worthless (Worth and value are of course human-only, and do not exist in the real world).

What do we CHOOSE to value? I say "I love you" (or "I hate you") is more valuable than "I love money" (or "I hate money") because there's another person at the other end.

Most human massacres have been made in the name of something abstract like god, nation, good or evil.
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0 ups
I'm struggling to understand what you mean now.
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3 ups, 1 reply
He survived the war. He died in 1908.
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Yeah I know. I'm certainly not judging the guy. He was born a slave and a soldier at 23 year old... probably more of a man than i'll ever be. What I find sad is what we do with these stories. Every country has them, and you people are taught that doing the same is the pinnacle of what a man should be.
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1 up, 1 reply
I think the value from holding the flag off the ground in combat comes from motivating the troops and keeping up morale. In that context, holding up the flag despite injuries is patriotic because it can have positive effects on the troops while dropping it can depress morale and cause a loss. These actions are worthy of being remembered in history.
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Yeah sure. The question is what we remember them for... I wish young people were not fed with this kind of stories, telling them dying for some symbol is an example they should follow.
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6 ups, 3 replies
It has a lot to do with it. Spoiled athletes who make millions of dollars throwing and catching a ball a few months out of the year for an average of 10-12 years in their lifetime, are kneeling in front of a flag that their ancestors fought and died protecting at all costs. These spoiled athletes know nothing about sacrifice as their ancestors did.

Respecting a flag that represents a country that made so many men free during a war that set into motion of making these men free is something the majority of Americans hold dear. Something you probably don't know anything about. You have no clue about the respect of this country or its symbol, which is why you come on here and make a mockery of a comment about it. Your only goal on this meme is to try and piss me off, which it isn't doing the way you would like it to.

This brave African-American former slave fought and suffered through so much just to keep a flag that represents the country he loved so much from touching the ground. Pure respect. Something not just black men of the day had, but most all Americans had. Something these dumb athletes have no clue of today.

Kaepernick doesn't have the slightest clue about suffering or giving up everything to stand for something. He started off as a below average QB who was paid millions, then became a protester for a cause that wasn't backed up by facts, and is now a sell out shill for Nike. Protesting what? Definitely not protesting the children being paid horrid wages to forcibly make a product under slave conditions.

That's what this meme means. It means something more than you'll ever know.
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Holding the flag up mid-battle is commitment to the force and cause you are fighting for. It is a rallying cry. Seeing the flag high reminds us that we stand for what is right. It can signal a charge. It can show advancement of allied lines of battle. This talk about "total respect for the flag" is misguided. This is not respect for the flag, this is discipline and commitment.
A country that treats some citizens worse than other citizens for characteristics they cannot change does not deserve much respect, it is broken and needs repairs. Let the corruption of our government and mistreatment of our citizens be brought to the light by any peaceful means possible.
Social injustice is being caught on camera more and more and you claim "wasn't backed up by facts." You've not been watching the videos and considering the procedures and practices that law enforcement should be following.
As members of the United States Armed forces, the flag reminds us to fight for what is right, and where our allegiance lies. Fighting for social justice is right.
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5 ups, 1 reply
tl;dr

Good Lawd, you and your racist card pulling. Do you sprinkle it on your Frosted Flakes while whirling your socks like a lasso above your head in the morning too?

That's not a "your history," you flatulating bunghole, it's OUR history. That's OUR hero, our AMERICAN hero.

Grow up and stop blubbering.
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4 ups, 1 reply
With your ignoramus comment, you proved to me you're nothing more than a worthless troll looking for an online fight and have no interest in anything that remotely has anything to do with civility in any form.

I'm done with you and your troll comments.
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5 ups, 1 reply
What civility, you racist twit?
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1 up
I ain't yer Lord, ya lil' hitler youth wannabe reject.
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1 up, 1 reply
Oh, god, he said Negroes, that's kind of charged,
what an ass,
what an ass,
GUMMI BEARS, he said gummi bears! had to laugh.
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3 ups
Spurs has a ton of racist memes and posts. According to him a cpl of months ago, darker toned folks never invented a single thing, and shouldn't use any technology if they don't like racist treatment.
He also posted a pic of the Obamas photoshopped to look like chimps last week.

Naturally the gutless nematode claims to not be racist.
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2 ups
I also managed to trigger you nicely, and yes, I did it in an utterly moronic way too,,,
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1 up, 1 reply
military and NFL ties?? hmm...
"a 2015 congressional report revealed that the Department of Defense had paid $5.4 million to NFL teams between 2011 and 2014 to stage on-field patriotic ceremonies; the National Guard shelled out $6.7 million for similar displays between 2013 and 2015." - slate.com
[apparently some of that $$ was returned back to the government after people caught on]
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2 ups, 1 reply
Caption, to your left, behind Spock. THAT was my question.
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0 ups, 1 reply
Yes, my eyes are operational. I was just looking at the bigger picture.
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The point I was making zipped right past you,,,
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1 up, 1 reply
Great meme. Great story. But come on now, can we really expect these people to get behind and learn something from such an Uncle Tom??? lol
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1 up, 1 reply
Yay, using an image of a black man while challenging the legitimacy of a protest that aims to decrease murder, decrease abuse/mistreatment of black/brown persons, and make the lives of Americans better. Racist AND insulting, nice, way to throw shade and salt at the same time.
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0 ups, 1 reply
That's because you miss the point and wouldn't admit that while Mr. Carney's actions are used as a fine human example, his brethren would dismiss him as an "Uncle Tom".
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Your context wasn't clear the first time. I did include context in my response. Indeed some of us may dismiss him, but why? He is far more deserving of a 24' statue and several plaques documenting the history than Robert E. Lee. He fought for a slave free nation and did so honorably and in the face of how he and his brethren were treated. If we dismiss him as an uncle tom, we really haven't come to a good understanding of history.

As for the racist and shade comment, understanding your post and my post makes clear that the shoe doesn't fit, your post is not deserving of that remark/conclusion.
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