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24 ups, 4 replies
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15 ups, 7 replies
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17 ups, 2 replies
Yo, Skippy, Judeo-Christianity came first. The Mussies came along later on, and stole a few pieces of Judeo-Christianity to sugarcoat their own worship of a cruel deity that they named "God." Abraham would be completely disgusted with what the Middle-east is today.
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13 ups, 1 reply
"cruel deity"? Have you even read the Bible?
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8 ups, 1 reply
having been raised in and escaped from a christian cult, I know that christians who actually read the bible do so with rose colored glasses. Many hardcore christians believe they will fight a holy war with jesus and slaughter armies of people to take over the world when the time comes. Not really different than radical Islam. Hundreds of years ago in England, the Puritan Christians tried to overthrown the king but were chased to north America. The Catholic Church and Heretic christians fought for centuries, with mass beheadings, torture, villages full of trapped women and children being burnt down... Anyone who tries to tell me christians and muslims are different is a delusional patsy. Christian history is overflowing with blood and horrible acts, yet most pretend the radical christians don't exist... believe me they do, they're just waiting for their fight again.
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8 ups, 1 reply
Johnny, it was Christians who created the United States in the first place. Mother Theresa...Christian. We don't believe in fighting a holy war. When Jesus comes, He'll cleanse the earth Himself. We just have to make sure we're worthy to survive the cleansing. Through missionaries, we reach out to other people, encouraging them to prepare for that great and terrible day.
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6 ups, 1 reply
The United States of America was built on a secular foundation where all men were free to practice all religions, as long as they didn't break the laws of the land. women were not people. Just like there are 1001 different christian groups around the world that have different interpretations of the bible, there are many differing Muslim Groups.

While you may believe that Jesus will come and cleanse the earth himself, there exists hardcore christian factions in the US that interpret prophecy in a much more literal sense, where it will be war first, then cleaning up all the human remains for years after as the "kingdom" is established. And you cannot erase history. Blood spilled in the name of Christianity runs just as deep as Islam, and just as scary. Just thinking about the many so called Christians who voted for Trump is a testament to how decayed christian morals are in America. Go back and read all of the things Trump said, and he is about as anti-christ as you can get. Hillary was no better.

If Christians are people of love, they will show love to people in need, like the good Samaritan, and love their enemies. The trump following extremists on the Right are not christian, nor do they even represent christian values. Trump represents the love of money, just like all the people in washington that are eagerly bombing any country that is standing in the way of profit and resource expansion. No, America is not a country built by Christians or for Christians. christians wouldn't wipe out millions of natives or bully them for centuries.
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7 ups
In the spirit of equality and tolerance, the United States doesn't have a state-sponsored church. Not even atheism can be the state religion (like it has been in the Soviet Union, China, and North Vietnam).

A system of law requires a unity of consistent principles. In the absence of a state church, the vacuum is filled by a national philosophy. One that's laid out in our philosophical charter: The Declaration of Independence, the certificate of our identity as a nation. A philosophy built upon Judeo-Christian VALUES, with liberty and justice for all peaceful religions. It is Judeo-Christianity that acknowledges God's sovereignty and lays out all Ten Commandments to civilization. America has a rich Christian heritage of calling upon God for aid, and thanking Him for this great land of liberty. The colonists came here to seek freedom to worship God, not to hand political power over to atheism. It's too bad the third verse of the national anthem isn't sung at events too.
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0 ups
All those Jew dudes were always disgusted with what was happening in the middle east. Besides, if Isaac hadn't elbowed Ishmael out of his birthright we'd all be chanting "allahu".
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4 ups, 1 reply
I don't mind people who Believe in god or whatever, but as far as I'm concerned History has shown that almost every Religion is nothing more than a death cult that either kills, punishes, or publicly humiliates anyone who isn't part of their "Club".
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4 ups, 2 replies
Pretty generalized statement, considering that it was Judeo-Christians who wrote the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution.
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1 up, 1 reply
I did say "Almost", I do recognize that there are certain instances where a religion hasn't caused bad times, but one cannot deny that a majority of the religions in the past and present have far more negative impacts on society than positive ones.
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1 up, 2 replies
You think atheism has positive effects? The Soviet Union, China, and North Vietnam have shown us what happens when religion is no longer around to restrain man's worst impulses.
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1 up
That is a good point, but those countries are somewhat totalitarian in nature, and I speak of a perfect world where we don't have to be forced to not have religion and rather choose to not worship a god, but again you have a point.
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2 ups
As would, a look at OUR various APOSTATE Regimes here.

Do you WANT a "religious government"? Seems problematic, to me.

And please note that the Ends shouldn't be used to justify the MEANS...but I'm guessing you're overlooking ANY positives that have come from those Governments.

There's a REASON that the CZARS fell in Russia - and it isn't because THINGS WERE GREAT under a Religious Government.
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2 ups, 2 replies
Thomas Jefferson was an Animist....certainly a HERETIC by "Judeo-Christian" standards.

And those ideas and sentiments go back farther in the mists of time, than even Judaism...

There is NOTHING new...under the sun.
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2 ups, 1 reply
Jefferson was agnostic, functionally an atheist. NOT a animist AKA pagan,,,
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2 ups
Depends on whom you believe in Historians I guess. I"'be heard it both ways....clearly not in line with the folks of his day....he kept mist things on the QT.

Even when you try and be all nit-picky and NEEDLESSLY arguementative...you kinda fail.

I'm fairly certain that he believed in a Creator. What you call it...where it IS...who knows.
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3 ups, 1 reply
What about Ben Franklin, John Adams, and the other 53 signers of the Declaration of Independence? And George Washington, James Madison, and the other attendees of the Constitutional Convention? You're not really going to try to rationalize each one into a non-Christian, are you?
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2 ups
Benjamin Franklin belonged to something called "the HELLFIRE CLUB". It Doesn't SOUND very Devout to me....

I'm sure that there was enough diversity amongst them that they weren't as ALL UP in each others business....as folks these days want to be...
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4 ups, 1 reply
Anybody who is reading this will have no idea who I replied to.
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1 up, 1 reply
I have no idea what's goin g on here. And who are all these users???
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1 up, 1 reply
Rage Gods.
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1 up
Bizarre.
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9 ups, 1 reply
They are cults at least :)
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9 ups, 3 replies
Maybe some Muslim should hack your clitoris off, then you'll finally appreciate the subtle charms of Islam treating women worse than animals. Maybe then you won't be so quick to lump all religions in with that barbaric 8th century death cult of Islam.
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13 ups, 6 replies
1. Men don't have clitorises. That's basic human anatomy.

2. Yes, Christianity fits the definition of a cult. Sorry to burst your bubble, mate

3. I have been circumcised per Biblical guidelines, so yes, Judaism and Christianity engage in genital mutilation as well.

4. Islam does do barbaric things. So do Judaism and Christianity. Read the Bible. Women were seen as less than men, less deserving of respect and equal treatment. A man could have multiple wives and concubines. Abraham did. Jacob did. Esau did. Solomon REALLY did.

5. If your religion treats women so well, why does the Bible say that giving birth to a male makes a woman unclean for one week, but giving birth to a female makes her unclean for two weeks? (Lev 12:2-5)
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7 ups, 2 replies
All religions fit the definition of a "cult". But not all are Satanic which is what the original comment said. Islam may not worship Satan but the radical Islamic extremists are most certainly under his influence.
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5 ups, 1 reply
And that's the truth. I don't support Islam, but that doesn't mean that every Muslim is a bad person. I happen to know a few very kindhearted Muslims, and they don't deserve to be judged by the radical actions of others within their religion. But if I may point something out that I saw farther up in the thread, Allah is most certainly not the same as Jehova, and it is true that Islam was created after Christianity and Judaism. It's kind of like WalMart brand vs the original brand of food. It took some general concepts but didn't follow it very closely, so you come out with two products that taste completely different.
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4 ups, 3 replies
Untrue. Mohammed had great respect for "people of the book".

EL is the first name of G-D in Genesis. Yahweh comes later. AL-LAH is a detect translation. 1 God. Monotheism.

Names €the word) are less important than Sentiments (Spirit). On that front they match up well.
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4 ups, 1 reply
It's great how you try to be neutral and someone comes in spouting unfounded banter. Ask a group of Christians and a group of Muslims if they worship the same God, and your answer will be a resounding "no". Though they may appear the same on the surface, Jehova and Allah are separate concepts. Religion cannot be viewed from a scientific standpoint because science simply cannot explain the spirit.
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3 ups, 3 replies
The educated ones (both Muslim AND Christian would disagree strenuously about that.

The God of Old testament mellows with age in the later books....right? And the divinity of Jesus wasn't always a completed debate - see Arian Heresy.
2 ups
I'm guessing that your take on the Bible is a religious fundamentalist approach.

No point arguing about matters of FAITH ... Generally. But there are ETERNAL TRUTHS...and Ancient Wisdom (the "perennial philosophy" as a teacher of mine liked to put it) hidden within each of the 'Greater Lights'.

Commercial Law for instance, which predates ALL modern religions is woven through all three "Books".

You want to look for Differences - they are there. But there are common elements that I guess you're missing.

Not the same religion (belief structure), to be sure... but the same point of Origin.

If you want to check the handwritting...God is the theoretically the Author...but s/he clearly has ghost writers.

As such you have the human instrument trying to channel the Divine...and from what I've seen, they all fall short in places.
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Look, the problem is that everyone is either just hitting the surface or digging too deep. The point is, if you truly know enough about either God, it is very easy to find key differences that make Jehovah and Allah very distinguishable from the other. If I also may point out, God does not change with the passing of time. He simply alters his approach to humans as we change in order to be understood.
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2 ups, 1 reply
"Be friend to neither Christian nor Jew"

He also admonished his followers to kill them.
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3 ups
Taking passages out of Context is Wonderful - isn't it.

Shall we checkt he Bible for SSkeevy passages too, now?

My favorites....too to good to share with you. Besides LITERALISM in the word, is aalways a DANGER....particularly with a Cypher Text.
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1 up, 2 replies
Elohim was the God of the Israelites
Yawheh is the God of the Judeans
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3 ups, 2 replies
Elohim is PLURAL. I doubt you know much, based on that alone.
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0 ups, 1 reply
Eloheim is God the Father. His name literally means "the Head One of the Gods." His Beloved Son is Jehovah, the Great I AM of the Old Testament, named Jesus in mortality.
0 ups
Elohim was the God of the Israelites
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2 ups
As are their HANDLERS IN LANGLEY, Virginia....I guess.
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7 ups, 1 reply
All you are doing is attacking others instead of giving reasons to bring more Islamic (possible) terrorists into our country.
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9 ups, 4 replies
You're more likely to get shot by an aspergersy republican than a common muslim. You're more likely to see TWO muslims GET SHOT AND KILLED by an aspergersy republican than you are to get shot by any common muslims at all.
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4 ups, 1 reply
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2 ups, 1 reply
No. It's like refusing to rescue a dog who's dying of cold in the winter because it might nip you, whilst owning a cat who scratches you on a regular basis.
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5 ups, 1 reply
Who might be the cat in this scenario?
4 ups
Stupid insecure white guys.

https://youtu.be/sJzXrr2DM-A?t=2s
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2 ups
Twice as more likely to be shot by a leftist on food stamps, actually.
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4 ups, 1 reply
Your argument would only be valid if there were the same amount of Muslims and Republicans in the US.
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4 ups, 2 replies
Your argument would be valid....if the stats weren't' Orders of Magnitude apart...and comparable relative to scale. I'm scoring that round for brick buster.
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2 ups, 1 reply
Regarding your comment below that isn't able to be replied to:

Don't you actually have to kill someone in order to be called a murderer? Slander does nothing to advance your position.
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Not trying to be rude or Slanderous....Peace and ALL that (also...nice to see you.... my man - looks like your "back" from your travails)....

But within the context of the discussion of WHOM in our lives (each of us here in the USA) would be more likely to be the one shoot one of us (or blow us up, run us over [road rage] or stab etc..., white boys Don't KNOW bout Machetes or Nasty martial arts weapons - seemingly)... it isn't a Syrian or SouthWestAsian/N.African. It's a Scott ROEDER or the aspergery guy @ work.

Numbers are just oriented that way. Motive may be more prevalent (and frankly..more justified) - for the former group, than the latter... But MEANS and OPPORTUNITY lean the other way....
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5 ups, 1 reply
Besides, Muslim killers use other weapons too, like machetes and vehicles to do their killings as well.

Too bad the facts are on my side.
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Well you can point to individual instances of violence by MEMBERS of ALL faiths....But the broad brush seems reserved for the CURRENT outgroup.

And yes each instance of whatever is a fact (tho there are plenty lined up on the other side...against you) is a possible cite....do the math


Did a Muslim just go shoot up a Church? Or did a bigoted Christian Xenophobe just kill a butch of INNOCENT Muslim civilians, in Michigan?

That story was reported...but doesn''t captivate the News cycle - because it UNDERMINES the hegemonic paradigm of today - where the. Machete wielding British ISIS supporters (attacking SOLDIERS NOT CIVILIANS) reinforces it. And in an apparent inversion of the usual Booze formula - 'if it bleeds it leads'. From there you divide the number of victims....by the distance from the newsroom in Miles. From there you get a score and a way to rank tragedies....

So why all the coverage of an attack in S. London.
... While a MUCH larger homegrown massacre receives so little coverage?

Because it would interfere with the distorted picture of reality that must be Very reassuring to you.
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7 ups, 1 reply
You clearly know no muslims.
4 ups
You're clearly a dumb grunt, refusing to actually put any effort into anything and just screaming "NO, YOU'RE WRONG!!".
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6 ups, 1 reply
Good Lord, THANK YOU for being one of the only ones in this comment section to have common sense. You give me hope for the world.
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11 ups
:) you're welcome
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9 ups, 3 replies
Why don't you pull your head out of your ass and quit using examples from 1000 years ago or more? I'm talking about what happens in 2017, every week, in every corner of the globe under the banner of Islam. Or does knowing about systemic [email protected] of Yazidi females turn you on? Honor killings, stoning and acid attacks are your thing? I bet it's the kidnappings that are a power trip in your sick world. You're a real humanitarian, defending the plague of barbarism under Islam.
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13 ups, 3 replies
"...quit using examples from 1000 years ago or more?" right after you said "that barbaric 8th century death cult of Islam." I'm pretty sure the 8th century was over 1000 years ago.

I notice how you didn't refute any of the misogynistic stuff in the Bible that I mentioned.

I never defended atrocities committed by Muslims. If you have a quote from me where I defended **pe or honor killings or stoning (all of which are in the Bible as well, btw), please present it. If not, I will kindly ask you to stop accusing me of saying things which I never said. In fact, in my previous comment, I agreed with you that Muslims do barbaric things.
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8 ups
I don't mean to barge in on an important discussion, but you need to chill out for a bit. Politics brings out the worst in all of us. Sometimes you need to know when to just accept someone else's opinion the way it is.
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13 ups, 1 reply
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9 ups, 2 replies
I'm going to assume you consider yourself a Christian, yes? Do you believe the Bible is the authoritative word of God?
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4 ups, 4 replies
If you actually understood Christianity, you would know that the Law of Moses was replaced by the higher Law of Christ (outlined in the Sermon on the Mount).
7 ups
Matthew 5:17-19King James Version (KJV)

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Here Jesus specifically says that the entire law of Moses is still fully in force and denounces those who would seek to say that parts of the law are invalid. What part of that passage am I misunderstanding?
5 ups
Jesus fulfilled the Law of Moses by expanding its moral aspects. "Don't kill" and "Don't commit adultery" were advanced to "Don't get angry" and "Don't harbor lust." The higher Law of Christ places the moral imperatives of the Law of Moses in the context of broader gospel principles that require a change of heart. Likewise, the civil government's strict enforcement of God's commandments was replaced; an individual's spiritual standing was now just between them and God. Jesus demonstrated this when He saved the life of a woman caught committing adultery.
The ritual and symbolic aspects of the Law of Moses pointed forward to Christ's Atonement, death, and Resurrection. So after those occurred, there was no longer a future event to point to, and thus the Law of Moses was fulfilled and could be done away with.
3 ups
Skippy, when Jesus said that, He hadn't yet undergone the Atonement in Gethsemane and the Resurrection. That was when every last jot and tittle of the law was fulfilled.
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@skippopotamus et al, the translations of Mat 5-18 vary.. that should be a hint. However, the issue is in the the phrase "Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law..." Jesus was a Jew and he clearly states that the OT laws are in effect until heaven and earth pass.. the "till all be fulfilled" is clearly referring to the previous statement. Other versions are clearer on this. The KJV is widely known by textual critics as the least accurate "version" of the bible having been translated from the oldest greek and some fill in work in latin. Simply, Jesus defends the laws you find in Ex and Lev. Contort all you want about Jesus changing the rules, he simply did not. According to multiple references in scripture, god is unchanging and eternal. Both can't be right.
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9 ups, 1 reply
Skippy, you got owned. You don't know shot about the bible.
5 ups
Your statements make me question whether you've ever read it either...

Certainly doesn't seem like you've taken much of it to heart....

If you supporting TRUMP and his anti-refugee ban (which.actually affects Christians, too) - then you are NO 'good Samaritan'.Rather, just another lawless murderer...and a small bump on the road to the peace of G-D.
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7 ups, 1 reply
That was a descriptive term of a group perform atrocities in 2017, which is MUCH different than quoting the Old Testament as though people still do that and haven't moved on.

Muslims still live in the 8th Century, Christians do not.
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8 ups, 1 reply
Modern day flat earth Christians and young earth creationists put paid to that claim.
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3 ups, 1 reply
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10 ups, 1 reply
Nibba only 10% of the world's Muslims are radical. (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/22/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/) It is amazingly close-minded of you to assume that all Muslims do that kind of thing. Yeah, some Muslims do crazy shit. They take their holy words too seriously. But most of them don't, and if you can't see that, then you don't have the right to accuse them of such things, you uneducated bigot.
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11 ups, 1 reply
That's like half of America's population being radical Muslims.

Also, the majority of Muslims believe in sharia law which is a barbaric set of laws that violate human rights, especially the rights of women.

pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/
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3 ups, 1 reply
As with RADICAL FUNDAMENTALIST Christians ... Not ALL radical fundi Muslims are an Actual threat to anybody....even in Malaysia, the Phillipines and Indo....where quite a few of those 120 million must live.

Not a big fan of Pew.....anyways...our concerns on Human Rights rarely follow issues as much as political concerns these day, it seems. Is the bible belt known for it's tolerance for women's reproductive freedom? Not that I know of. Look first to the mote in your OWN eye.
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2 ups, 1 reply
3 ups
Like BRAKES give your car "locomotive freedom" - In combination With the engine/tranny.
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7 ups, 1 reply
Islam is a lingering relic of the Dark Ages. Modern Christianity is a return to the enlightenment of the New Testament era.
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6 ups, 1 reply
And you may have a male's anatomy (hard to fathom, with your girly posts), but you are not a man. Not even a beta male.
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12 ups, 1 reply
I would have replied sooner, but that comeback left me a quivering heap of shattered defeat on the floor, and it took some time to recover. I think I'm going to be okay... Where's my coloring book?!

"girly posts" lol :)
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5 ups
Octavia's a guy
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4 ups
Buddisim sounds nice don't it?
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12 ups, 2 replies
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4 ups, 1 reply
And for the RECORD....paedophilia was QUITE popular amongst Christians in Europe...far more recently than the life of Muhammad.

So is there some reason that you folks like to cling to that old chestnut?
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2 ups, 2 replies
Jesus taught us to judge false prophets by their fruits. Moe's fruit: A culture which to this day has been a source of terror against the free world; where women's rights and free speech don't exist; and where capital punishment, in cruel and unusual manners, is dolled out at the drop of a hat.
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5 ups
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Sounds a bit Like Texas or Mississippi.

It also brought forth Rumi and ALGEBRA..

I think y'all overrate yourselves and downgrade others thoughtlessly...and habitually. Are the French still 'Surrender Monkeys' for opposing W's DISASTROUS misadventure in Iraq? Sure they dislike us....but, the way we act...who WOULDN'T? The Australians are THROUGH with our crap apparently. Mexico isn't interested in fostering XENOPHOBIA and Ultra NEO -Nativism.

And I trace both Islamic Fundamentalism AND the TERROR problem back to Langley. Or Falls Church...or wheArabiait was that the Bin Laden clan caughtt their UNIQUE and unprecedented 9/11/2001 flight back to Saudi Arabia.

Judge not...let he who is WITHOUT SIN.....TURN THE OTHER CHEEK....etc.
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2 ups
Your falsehood is Anpthers Truth. Frankly I think y'all are ALL a bit nuts...and like mirror opposites to each other.

Are you so wise and learned that you.need to speak down to the top-plurality of the World's population?
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8 ups, 2 replies
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8 ups
Sarcasm... just in case anyone thinks I'm serious.
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3 ups, 1 reply
Not exactly the best pic to make your case,,,
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3 ups, 1 reply
hello modda long time no see
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0 ups
I know you?
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4 ups, 2 replies
Huh? No. clearly you know nothing about religion. They're different religions. Read the Bible, Talmud, and the Quran..
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6 ups
:o
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6 ups, 1 reply
Skippy was just parroting Charles Schumer's speech, in between sobs of fake crocodile tears. Otherwise, he wouldn't know the God of Abraham from Elvis Presley.
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2 ups, 2 replies
Basic accommodations are all any minority religion, would usually ask for. Why do The HAWAIIAN CANNABIS CHURCH, and Native American peyote shaman "want to change our laws". Because they're CODES - not laws - often NOT LAW as well. And they too deserve the free exercise of their beliefs. Should they stay HOME (and kick US out!) - or seek religious freedom - in a REALLY free country.

Sikhs are required to carry a ceremonial sword. Not a threat to anybody.

To the extent that HALAL is becoming more common - it has economic - NOT political drivers.

Please show me where SHARIA has been adopted, ANYWHERE in the West.
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2 ups, 1 reply
A Sikh real estate agent says he is "shocked" and "insulted" after being barred from entering a Cosmopolitan Club for lunch this week with colleagues because he was wearing a turban.

Gurpreet Singh, 30, who works at Ray White Papatoetoe, is taking his complaint against the Manurewa Cosmopolitan Club for religious discrimination to the Human Rights Commission.

"I tried to explain that the turban is part of my faith and it is not a headgear that I can take off, but the reception just refused to accept that," Mr Singh said.

"I don't know whether it's being racist or ignorance, but what they did left me shocked and insulted."

This is not the first time the club has been embroiled in controversy. The Herald reported another turban-wearing Sikh being denied entry in 2010 when the club said his turban breached its no-headwear policy.

A year before that incident, another complaint was lodged against the club after it refused to allow a Muslim international student to dine there because she was wearing a hijab, or religious headscarf.

Mr Singh said he was not aware of the earlier complaints, but had lodged complaints with the commission and the police because he wanted the club to change its "discriminatory" policy.

A commission spokeswoman said it had received Mr Singh's complaint and was now in " confidential mediation".

Club manager Patricia Rangi would not comment yesterday except to say the matter was going through the processes before the commission.

The club's policy banned entry to all people with headgear, including those wearing them for religious reasons.Veer Khar, president of the Manukau Indian Association, said the club's rules were archaic and had no place in modern New Zealand.

"The rules can also be seen as very discriminatory when it is used to keep some people out of the club," he said.

"On the club's part, it's a bit of ignorance, and I'd say they need to get more educated."

Mr Khar said about a third of the association's membership were Sikh. They were prepared to meet club officials to explain the turban's religious significance.

Sikh Centre chairman Verpal Singh said his group had asked members of the local Sikh community to stay away from the club since the 2010 case to avoid a repetition of the incident.

"Our purpose was to defuse the situation and not let those who shout 'go back to where you came from' or 'our country our rules' [have] any platform to spew their venom."

Professor Andrew Geddis of Otago University law school
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2 ups, 1 reply
IT's CALLED a PRIVATE institution.

But if you Ask NICELY....I'll JUST BET that THEY would make adequate accommodations for YOUR KOOKY brand of RELIGION.
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1 up, 1 reply
the cosi club is not a religion dickhead. you are showing typical signs of an islamic sympathiser . you should open your mind. if you want to practice your hate religion and terrorism , do it in your own country. If your country and religion is soooo great stay there
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2 ups, 1 reply
NOT a religion you SAY? Well then let me inform - It Don't matter.

Religions AND Private Clubs (FREE ASSOCIATION) are EQUALLY protected under the first amendment. Within the walls of YOUR church, you can expect BROAD DISCRETION. sacrifice a HUMAN (even a willing victim)....and we WILL INTERVENE. A REDUCTIO ad absurdam, true...but I was HOPING that you'd have gotten the point already.
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1 up, 4 replies
what first amendment idiot im not a Trump countryman we live in paradise
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Sure, bubba.
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anotherworldview you are entitled to your opinion and so am i . but if you even read any of what i wrote, you would see i am in New Zealand. The clue was in the newspaper article i pasted. you numpty knumbnut inbred goat shagger
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YOU speak to me like you do....and then wonder why I Don't FOLLOW you every Word with Rapt Attention?.....Manners.....

SAD. Make that a WHOLE BAG FULL.
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First OFF....Back to LAW SCHOOL - for YOU, my friend. JIM CROW laws were of EQUAL validity

Personally, I oppose ALL extensions of the COMMERCE clause, unto the private conduct of "FREEMEN" (in as much as they cause NO TRAVERSE or injury towards others). Which is how you GET helmet laws, inthe first place. So that's a pretty tenuous argument - right there.

The Rules of a PRIVATE club, are no more a matter of law...than the menu @ McDonalds.

You Don't like a DULL sword or
Knife? Are you AGAINST the open carry of handguns and AR15's? Cause I fail to see ANY difference...except in the ACTUAL threat, posed by each - and WHO, is INTO what.

SO, Some Muslims oppose bikinis and showy clothing....so do plenty of Christians and Jews. And @ LEAST in this country it has ALWAYS been Judeo-Christians who've passed our "rulemaking" for appropriate beach attiire.

Why I can't surf NAKED like the Polynesians of OLD?

ASSHOLE missionaries.

Which is why we needed French people to teach us how to wear Clothing that looks nice...and won't ACTUALLY drown you...if you get in over your head.

These sound like "SHARIA WATCH" talking points. You aren't actually LISTENING to that BUFFOON - Pam Geller - are you?!?
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you really are an ANGRY NEEDLE DICKED MUSLIM. don't get angry because you don't get islam everywhere you go. stay in your angry war torn country and don't go spreading anger and hate and terror , dont go to other countries and try to change them. you cant have it both ways, you cant go to a christian country and change them, because a christian cant walk in a bikini in a muslim country or drink alcohol on a beach or on a public area. calm down and look at the coin both sides. like i said if your country and religion is sooooo great go back.
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Show ME some Muslims trying to ban BIKINIS - and I will MEME you an UPVOTE.

In the meantime....I think you better check and SEE for us if your speedos or MINE are legal for a surf in PALM BEACH, Fla. No G-STRINGS. CREEPING SHARIA?

If ONLY. (Cause they wouldn't have the LEGS for that lift, I'm guessing).

No - that's CHRISTO-FASCISTS. Burn a Koran on the internet.while you're at it.
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anyone else in my country would be arrested and charged for carrying that same sword, blunt instrument, knife sword or what ever, so why are you allowed to break the law here. if i start a religion where i carry an axe and thought i can do it because it is my doctrine is that okay? No. because i know the laws of that country and decide i will not weld my axe or i wont migrate there.... open your mind you egg
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Come arrest ME. I have One. Sometimes I carry it. Before you come @ me on a felony (Cal. Penal Code - DANGEROUS WEAPONS)....please look and observe that there are EXCEPTIONS to EVERY good rule.

And I QUALIFY. How far you really WANT to take this? Check with OUR Sheriff if you like.

Anyways....a SIKH's SYMBOLIC (Incapable of effective use. - dull AND weak) Sword or Dirk or DAGGER, is a GREATER THREAT TO ISLAM - than your XENOPHOBIC - ass... So I guess you should be CAREFUL what YOU wish for.

Oh, and unless you can take away a foot (life and LIMB - MAYHEM. MAGNA CHARTA), we all have 2 of them with us. The GROUND is MY Cudgel. That WALL...
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LIKE I Told you...come get me. You want to carry something like that?

Go AHEAD and 1) QUALIFY. 2) Check -in with your Sheriff (Optional).

As for the "Comment" above....what can be said about and INCORRECT Ad Hominem? Nothing constructive - usually; unless you're VERY GOOD. ARE YOU? I Haven't seen it.

Have I been RUDE to you? I think FRANK AND HONEST more....but I can see how you might Take it that way. My hope is.... once we're all up to speed with the BRIGHT'S (at LEAST the one's that wish you NO harm) we'll be able to apologize to each other for our trespasses - even - the MUTUAL ones.

If NOT.... well, I tried.

UPVOTING you. Don't know if you've noticed....WHY? Because like my "DISCUSSION" with MODDA - I don't feel Shame OR Guilt about what I said, to either of you.

So, I Hope that we can DISAGREE (even strenuously) - agreeably.

If NOT? I tried.
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Who are YOU, calling an EXTREMIST?

People are entitled to their OWN beliefs, and their own Heresies.

If the FLDS want 10 wives.....where is that a PROBLEM for YOU?

And if we ELIMINATE all the extreme elements....who could argue with ANYTHING that brings "man" closer to his best/highest self. Fundi Christianity INCLUDED.
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Say.... Have you ever met a "Phineas Priest"? I've heard they EXIST like "the ORDER" and others peripheral to the story in BLOOD OATH - (coughs) FURHMAN. What do YOU think?

I'm always interested in a proper discussion...once we can stipulate on the FACTS.

Calm DOWN?!? How about WAKE Up? And yes...QUITE conscious thank-you.

I AGREE with you PILGRIM. But DON'T put your wack-ass CODES on my CASTLE or COURT. Or you WILL find YOURSELF - OVER-RULED.

DO I want them CHANGING the LAW? NO. DO I trust YOU, to make or "change" (/rule upon) a LAW? Not YET.

Do I want them OPPRESSING or ABUSING the OWN wives, mothers, sisters or daughters...
NO! The Widow or Orphan EITHER.

Will I STAND BY and SAY NOTHING, while YOU and yours try to....Hell NO!

Sorry - you folks are just a BIT paranoid @ present...by OTHER people getting the same kind of preferential treatment - that y'all have BEEN giving to yourselves SINCE it seems like ...Colonial Massachusetts.
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How many people have they burned to death in cages and put it on YouTube? Because that's what your precious Moslem horde has done in the name of their pedophile prophet.
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And I can show YOU ... some COLLATERAL MURDER. Wikileaks aired that....Because unlike ISIS....our guys PRETEND to be embatassed - about ALL of the AWFUL things that THEY DO.

I can't show you Video of the KELLOGG, BROWN AND ROOT - built TIGER CAGES within which.... our people mistreated, tortured and MURDERED "...some folks..." . Back issues of Covert Action Quarterly might help you, here and ELSEWHERE.... (Originally - Covert Action Information Bulletin - CAIB).
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Congratulations. That is the most ignorant thing I have read in 2017. You must really dazzle them with your brilliant opinions down at the bowling alley.
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You literally went from "every religion is a satanic death cult" to defending ISIS.

Who are you?
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Factual information is not a "Defense" of ISIS.
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Factual information is not a "Defense" of ISIS.
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Many Muslim majority countries have Christians and hindus etc. Only extremists are intolerant of non Muslims.
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Until it's safe and legal for a Christian or Buddhist missionary to openly proselyte in those countries, what's your point?
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They are tolerant of other religions. Now you are changing the rules. Tolerance ALLOWS them to live there unhindered by the overwhelming majority religion. Theocracies are what they are. It's not what we are. If they are not being persecuted, they are being tolerated.
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Then don't you think it's hypocritical of Islam to expect freedom of speech over here, when it doesn't extend that privilege to any other religion over there?
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No- because we are not a Theocracy and we have freedom of speech.
You respect the locals' customs and traditions. Ours is Freedom of speech. They (foreigner muslims) respect that in our country
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Have you ever read the UN's 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights? When is the UN going to start enforcing it? If we improved life in other countries, then maybe the United States wouldn't be so crowded. If we expanded the free world, with its freedom of speech and the free exchange of ideas, then evil organizations like ISIS wouldn't get off the ground so easily.
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I don't know. It's a UN initiative not a US one. So are you clear on hiw we have free speech for EVERYONE in this country and we can't dictate what freedoms are in other countries?
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Saudi Arabia is head of the counsel of human rights. Meanwhile practicing sharia law, oppressing woman, molesting children and killing non-moslems.
Don't get me started on the legitimacy of the "U.N."
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Actually proselytizing used to be legal in those countries till at least prior to WWII in some, some later.
Rising nationalism, initially a tool to foment against The Ottaman Empire then later to curtail the spread of Nasserism and socialism, brought that to an end.

I'm not saying this to dispute the validity of what you say, just adding some background to it.
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It doesn't have a "none of my business line!" WHAT IS THIS????
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Nope. But it's Kermit sipping a beverage while slamming the world's evil.
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Their mission is to force non Muslim countries to becoming Muslim countries. The United States is the last real stronghold against Islamic reign.
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Isn't every NATO nation like that?
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r/dankcrusadememes
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Speak English ... I don't speak reddit.
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Maybe they come to this country to escape that? I don't know, I have learned so much in my life I know not to generalize everyone.
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Haha funny!
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it may be because of culture
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I like the meme - just not all the sentiments...but I do respect ya dude.
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Is it hypocritical for muslims to be tolerant of the west when we keep bombing innocent civilians?
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Quotation marks purposeful.
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You pretty much justified 9/11. If a nation's civilians aren't off limits, then how was 9/11 a bad thing?
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The enemy, by definition, are civilians. They aren't a military force fighting for their country and don't wear uniforms. And the people they hide among, while they may not all participate, generally support them. So we don't know who is truly innocent and who is not.
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Where are you Talking About exactly?... Cause ISIS thinks itself a STATE.

In Afghanistan we UNLAWFULLY OCCUPIED Their Country....deposed THEIR State Institutions, and replaced them with ones amenable to US. So technically - Civilians resisting an occupying power and THE US' kleptocratic puppet Government.

YOUR arguments here, sounded better inThe Original German....when the Nazis went after the "Terrorists" in the Warsaw Ghetto. And Crocodile Tears were probably spent there too...over Civilian (Jewish) casualties and "Collateral Damage".
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Iraq was the illegal invasion, not Afganistan.
Afganistan was perfectly justifiable, and instead of leaving the place even worse off than it was since 1979, we have been trying to rebuild a country that barely ever was one to be begin with in its 250 year history,,,
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Actually both were. Can Cuba invade Florida looking for TERRORISTS? Cause I can ID a few living there under OUR protection. Hell, Posada-Carriles admitted to an illegal entry to the US (all while still being WANTED by Cuba, Venezuela AND Panama.....for GOOD CAUSE).

If we can go into Afghanistan - looking for the Guy who Couldn't have turned off the SAMs @ the WH and Pentagon, or scheduled the 7 or more secret "Wargame" exercises...which blunted a standard miiitary response (except for the "LETS ROLL" flight WHICH WAS ACTUALLY SHOT DOWN, over W.Pennsylvania) - then why can't Cuba overthrow the Government of Florida? Seems fair to me....

Sorry if that seems "Tin-Foil-Hat" to you. I am also a respected researcher on that subject. I can direct you to better information (suppressed information - but readily avaiable) if you'd like.

Anyway...'send Osama OUT, or we come IN' is not a lawful extradition. And deposing a Government...even one we Don't like, is an international CRIME. "War of Aggression" is the Charge...

And if you go read "the Grand Chessboard" you will see that our entry there was predicted, forecast, and planned for - right down to the 'New Pearl Harbor' scenario.
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Or because they PAY ATTENTION to what we're DOING to them, their neighbors and the region more generally.

Look ..I think we know each other. I Don't want start a flame war....and despite my opinion on your take....I didn't even Downvote the sentiment.

You smart. So dig a little deeper. Sure ALL religion is Crowd/Mind Control....and mobs are EASILY misled.

But Christians are Jews are the Exact same kind of mob - when led in that direction.

It is a SAD fact that the NEWS has been canceled in our country....or underwritten by Lockheed.

So get outside your comfort zone and see the world from the perspective of the OTHER - particularly because you and they are in conflict. It is the first step on the road to nonviolence, compassion and a fuller humanity.

Also realize that Islam is 1000years younger than Christianity....and it compares favorably to the Christianity practiced @ the time of the crusades (a similar age range for the religion). And theocracy here at home is a Real Danger....how can we blame them for the Jackasses whom we install and maintain over them. And additionally - please study comparative religions...even "ISLAM" has several variants. Shiites believe in a Religious STATE (like most Jews, Catholics and Mississippans) - while Sunnis believe in a Secular STATE (but a highly religious society). Wahabi Salafi-ist Islam is the most EXTREME(ist) variant of Sunny....and MUCH worse that what passes for Sunni in Baathist Regimes like Assad's and Sadaam's.

But PLEASE. Check the poetry of Rum...and the philosophy of the Sufi sheiks and whirling the Darvishes. It's highly mystical...and shares much with Judaism and Christianity.

I am reaching out with a helping hand, sincerely, here. I hope the comment is received in the same spirit that it was offered. May Peace be upon you....because the harm we wish upon others - we really wish upon ourselves...
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I'm triggered but I like you.
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Right back at ya. Peace is the way....
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Islam is 500 years younger than Christianity, not 1000.
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GOOD POINT. I didn't go back to my 8th grade HISTORY notes to confirm...the point is - it's younger than OUR religion - and the past 500 years hasn't been what we should lead with....if we want to talk about how ENLIGHTENED Christians are comparatively....

Also Cause most of those TEXTS (and "eyewitness accounts" were only 100 years old @ that point (@ least in the final, roughly synched-up "modern" version of the New Testament. Council of Nicea 400 AD.)

And a popular view amongst Christians in the area was the 'Arian Heresy' - which posits among other things the humanity of Jesus. So not far from the Islam's take on him.

So. Perhaps the folks in the region were less willing to be pushed into an ORTHODOX BOX...with the folks under Rome and Byzantium.
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Google is just a click away...

Council of Nicea...? Oh, right! That whole atheist attempt to discredit Christianity... Keep reading Dan Brown and not those pesky historical documents that tell a different story.
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Never Read Dan Brown. Saw movie or two....But from what I KNOW...and what I think I understand.... Pretty close to the truth in @ least Several Areas.

I prefer a more scholarly work "Holy Blood Holy Grail" ..(though one which gave me just a Bit of pause ... initially,[email protected] least because of an obscure caution in the Forward.

Nonetheless there Are FOOTNOTES.

So if you claim to speak with some ACTUAL knowledge...I'll ALSO just assume that you'll know how to spill... WHATEVER it is that you think that you know to me, 'quietly'.
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"Holy Blood Holy Grail"? HOLY SHIT! I read it and it was nothing but " suppose [this]" and "what if [that]" with the flimsiest of reasoning, and based on a "historical" document that was proven in a court of law to be a forgery.
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Exactly the area that gave me pause. A "court of law" found OJ NOT Guilty too...what's your point.

It sounds like you'd rather stick your fingers in your ears... Than follow-up on some VERY Scholarly footnotes. Are THEY all forgeries too?

So how familiar are you with the Apocrypha? The Dead Sea Scrolls? Cause I DOUBT that you would speak so flippantly....if you had a better a understanding of things.

And JUST soes U know....the tile I gave you was an OPEN SOURCE. I could probably offer some areas to expand your horizons....but some books just aren't kept in public libraries.

Please, do Go On...

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Regardless of the footnotes, the ACTUAL TEXT OF THE BOOK was nothing but supposition.

The Dead Sea Scrolls were dated up to about 400 B.C., so they have no Christian texts, just Old Testament.

The "Apocrypha" is riddled with inaccuracies that contradict the New Testament texts that are PROVEN to be older.

I've also read the Qu'ran and the Book of Mormon.
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Firstly....bully. I always liked ya'. It amazes me, just how many people can be kept in the DARK... if you hides things in books. That you've made such a diverse study, is a lamentably rare, feather in your cap.

So, I hope that you could agree that all of the Greater Lights have some passages that are 'Questionable'....perhaps even a bit 'troubling'... Am I correct?

It seems from your words, that you may have a fairly 'fundamentalist' view on your own culture's Scripture; so if you're on a LITERAL, DIRECTLY from G-D, ENTIRELY UNQUESTIONABLE kind of footing....maybe just ignore that question (with my apologies. Because I Don't seek to Profane anybody's Religion) and as much as you'd like to ---of what follows below. You may notice that I Don't try to argue with other peoples FAITH or BELIEFs.
Because, how Could or Would I do that. I just ask folks for their more Academic...'straight' takes on things. What I get (usually) is All around us, on the field. So anyway...nice to have dignified airing of views.

How could books ... that were DISCARDED (MOSTLY DESTROYED) in AD400, be conclusively PROVED to be Younger - than ones that come from roughly the same era....And whose Older versions were LIkely ALSO Destroyed, as well, for the most part?

Seems like a tenuous ASSERTION - based upon the INCOMPLETE nature of the evidence - alone.

I also sense a bit of CONFIRMATION BIAS in your take against 'Holy Blood'....

Because I found quite a bit in that book that Didn't rely so much upon supposition, as it did Historical Analysis...I'd suggest you give it ANOTHER look. If you disagree with the sources (many, fairly mainstream , on the Historical front) you should investigate further - PLEASE bring the parts you argue with, to my attention. General Denials aren't particularly helpful on this stuff...and come off as a little lazy (to me, sorry).

Are you familiar with the Arian Heresy? Cause that got nixed at Nicea - at the latest. And it seemed to me to be well covered.

So as always I do want your (scholarly) take . Both on Your stuff, AND My stuff.

No need to take the kind of deep dive, that I might attempt. Just say something like - "they Misquoted Josephus - on page 210. I looked up the footer.' Or they took X out of Context.... this source is a bad'mistranslaton....they got this Cypher WRONG, etc..

Or I may still find it useful in some areas - @ least As an accessible text.

The meme is Gabriel from an apocryphally-themed film.
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Yeah... It's more of the idea that I read all those things from the mindset of "what is actually being said here?" I have a high level of reading comprehension. I don't, of course, memorize everything I read. But I come away with a general impression of the overall.

Of all the versions of the Bible, I prefer the NIV, because I read in the introduction (yes, I do read things like that, too) that it was translated by a committee of about a hundred translators from all denominations, which to my way of thinking means it is the most accurate version.

I began doing "Bible studies", but quit when I realized "doctrinal studies" would be a more accurate term. What particularly irked me was one that said something like "When Paul wrote [this], he meant [that]." I was all like "No, Paul was a smart enough guy that if he'd meant [that], he'd have written [that]. I'm pretty sure he did, indeed mean [this]."

I was once accused of being too smart to be a Christian. What it boils down to is, since I believe there is more to Life, The Universe, And Everything, then which religion makes the most sense? Christianity fits that bill for me.

I can even admit that I can see the possibility that it's all hokum. Peter is perhaps the most impulsive man in the history of forever. He never gives thought to ANY word or action. A few examples (paraphrasing, of course):

--"Don't wash my feet, Jesus! Oh, I have to let you? Then give me a full bath, dude!" (I can picture Jesus doing a facepalm here.)
--"I don't know that guy! Are you frackin' nuts?"
--["Hey, Matt."/"Yeah, Andy?"/"The boat's full of fish, so let's head to shore."/"Right-o!"/*SPLOOSH!*/"Where's Peter going?"] (More facepalms.)
--etc.

The point of that, besides hopefully getting a chuckle out of ya, is that Peter wrote that these weren't just stories made up by clever men. The thing is, because PETER wrote that, I can see it being precisely that, and it was his dumbass move to write a denial that didn't need to be written.

Please note that I DO believe the testimony therein, but with an asterisk. I'm even able to answer "unanswerable" questions like "Where did Cain's wife come from?" As I said, Christianity makes the most sense to me.

As for the accuracy of the texts, well, many scholars claim that they CAN determine if they are more or less seeing a true rendering of the original, but then it becomes a case of their personal belief as to whether or not it's accurate. This is another reason why I like NIV, because i
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DAD-BLAMED TEXT LIMIT!!!

As I was saying, it doesn't hold back, it let's you know that there are discrepancies in the available manuscripts.
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Sorry so long.
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1stly - Never apologize (to ME anyway, lol) for going long or taking a VDEEP DIVE. I AVOID the shallow end.

THAT is a GREAT insight into.your take. And again - it seems that We DO have quite a bit in common. To me the issue with ANY human attempt to channel the divine is the quality of our antennae. Quite few of God's concerns - as expressed in the BOOKS seem a bit MORE like man's - @ least to me.

The Ethnic Cleansing seems problematic to me, in Cannan and Philistina - though I can also see the Actual driver being a pragmatic one - kill em Off - or they Will come back, with reinforcements...So, no humanitarian exiles were possible, I guess. And yes I chuckled with you....

Sorry if The Janus meme that I posted was a bit HARSH OR UNWARRANTED. I see quite bit going on right now.

The Historical reason for salutes and handshakes is to show that we aren't concealing weapons - so when I see people moving in my peripherals...sometimes the training takes over and I start moving instinctually like Jason Bourne.

Glad that we are still talking, friend.

Personally I think that Man (the STATE particularly) NEEDS God - more than God needs man. And the subtle overlap of political and religious matters in the Bible and Q'uran tells me that ALL religions are tools of Social and Cultural control - as opposed to the ACTUAL Spiritual and personal development, which comes from
from a more meditative, spiritual and philosophical practice.

It's like George Carlin's take on crowds, versus the people you meet Individually .... Now they have an AGENDA....And are therefore DANGEROUS. So... short of human sacrifice I tend to give people religions and societies

Which is where
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"Which is where" - disregard.

...broad latitude to go with what is Right for THEM. From MY "TRUE RELIGIN"....to YOUR - as they say "SATANIC DEATH CULT ". Yoor RIGHT - to Be RIGHT, is My right to be Wrong....
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"Christians AND Jews" - "Poetry of Rumi..."
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islam is 1400 years old, not 1000.
Attempting to equate it's current stage of development with Christianity during the Crusades is fallacious and counterproductive, since that was over 700 years ago.
All over Planet Earth, regardless of religion, it is 2017. You're on a computer, not in a cave.

isil/wahhabism/al queda/taliban/caliphate are sunnis moslems.
Shiite Iran, on the other hand is a democracy.
President Assad of Syria is an Allowite, which is a Shiite sect, NOT sunni.

As an sunni moslem arab trying to put things in perspective, perhaps a little learning about your own culture before attempting to preach the merits of it are in order,,,
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Ok more recent than Crusades....how about 1492 - 1865....and then the Jim Crow era.... All Atrocities committed by "Christianists" who enslaved, **ped, deprived and Murdered Millions. Shall we continue with the COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT that you endorse? Shall we paint everyone in our country with the Broad Brush that you reserve for OTHERS?
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Are you always this deliberately obtuse?
You aren't reading a single word I said.

PS: For your future embittered lame trolling efforts, when you bungle basic history, you don't repair your earned image of ignorance by suddenly pasting irrelevent word saladed Wiki factoids.
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Wow...you really Nailed me THERE. IT's not like I'm just responding to ALL YOUR TRIPE.

TRY FOLLOWING a link...you JUST MIGHT LEARN SOMETHING.
And allow me to Apologize for Getting ONE date wrong....it TOTALLY invalidates EVERYTHING ELSE I might say....EVER. RIGHT?

And positioning yourself as some aggrieved victim....weak.
Like those "Brave" Settlers being tormented, without cause, by those horrible Palestinians.....RIGHT!

Dude...do you read this crap back, before you send it?
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Quit writing stupid shit....I Don't NEED respond to your comments when they're just backwards and retarded. But when you stray into the DANGEROUS area of fascist apologist....I feel compelled to correct you - for the benefit of NON-Zika babies.
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Who said anything about Palestinians or Israel?

Did you even look at the meme?
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In the past You were a BIG Zionist Hawk/Honk....

Has something changed? Don't YOU too feign injury....to justify your aggressive behaviour?

Not everything I say is a DIRECT and immediate response to you....sometimes it becomes "BOOK" or "FILE" - for later replies.
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FINALLY! Thank you, I've been wanting the link for that, but scrawling through endless pages of comments, it was easier - and a sure heck lot more fun - prompting you to do it. There's someone I needed to get to from there.

Course you were so thick, it took this long. You been here all day?
I had tings to do, was gone for a few hours.

Anyhowzers, when you gonna post the secret answer to the birthplace of my parents? And the name of the State I live in?
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Boy aren't YOU clever. Getting me to do your Zionist agit-prop homework for you....

Took 2 seconds...
Big whoop.

I Wasn't feeling well..
But you WERE quite busy over night....

And it would have easier to respond more quickly if the downvote Orc army wasn't so busy helping you..

Glad SOMETHING could staunch the flow of your verbal diahrrea.

In fact I was also speaking to some PLEASANT INTELLIGENT people as well. So slapping you back down into your little "spider hole"... was just a bonus.
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Past? Fella, I've only been active on meme threads since November.

Zionist? Thanks for letting me know.
Although they are an ally, the only true ally we have between Greece and India.
So yeah, they're cool with me.

However, for a moslem arab like you, I take it the butthurt runs deep,,,
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So I guess I JUST got LUCKY....
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PS: Remember this one:

You may think that donning your super duper keyboard troll cape may be saving some imaginary toy soldiers, but, um, no.

People are dying. Not Palestinians, not Jews, not dead Jews 7 decades ago, not half of Iran a century ago so the Brits can use their food and rail for their own purposes, not the Arab, etc, proxies that died for Britain and France against Turkey in WWI or today, BUT PEOPLE.

If you really cared about you pretend to care about rather than some checker pieces on a board, you'd be over there doing something.

You can troll me all you want. To me THAT'S the game, but it won't change the fact that you do not give a crap about anybody.

Innocent civilians, Arabs (did you now there are Christian Palestinians too as well as Moslems, sorry, Muuuuuuuuuuslims - wouldn't want to offend ya?) , Israeli, foreign tourists, whatever, getting killed by anyone for no reason is wrong. I don't give a crap whose balls you lick.

Me? I say the hell with them all. Let them kill each other, there's too many people in this world anyways. Call it culling the herd.

You? You're a maggot feeding on carcasses in a blood sport game.
People like YOU are the enemy, on both sides.

PS: You would never guess what blood runs in my viens. Hint, you're closer than you think. A LOT closer. Let's put it this way, my original God is the father of your God - Jew, Christian, Moslem. Y'all aswipes need to grow the fuhck up.

You did it to my forefathers 1400 years ago, and you're still doing it now, and all you got to show for it is a pile of sand with a few olive trees sticking out,,,
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Who Could forget ALL of your nonsensical and SPECIOUS, non-sequitors.

Still not sure whom you thought you were talking to....

Next time you Save a Life. Or even just arrest a Criminal (bodily using ONLY lawful force...) - you.have MY.PERMISSION to speak to me, as if you were even on the same LEVEL....

In the meantime you strike me as an impertinent VILLAIN, with poor manners....
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Again II'm a Quaker. Not a Muslim. I am also certified as a "Hebrew"....from the tribe of Abraham, not Jacob/Israel..

Assad himself is Allowite....true. But Baathism, as I understood aligns more closely to the Sunni take on Church/State - good relations with Iran because of personal ties in Syria....but past problems in Iraq.

I Don't excuse the misconduct or backwardsnins of anyone. But I look to my own, to Criticize, first.

And contrary to your assumtions relativity tells us that time to is relative. Which is why some parts of the planet are heading towards the 21st century....while others seem headed for the Twelth.

It is a VERY post-modern....but so is our common condition.

If you.hate fundi Islam....perhaps we should stop supporting it in the Hashemite Kingdom... (And around the world through the Saudis exporting of Wahabi Islam,

Seems like we keep building tommorow's Perfect Enemy, Today. Because Endless war is.a FEATURE...under the Present Order....not a bug.And historically....that'd be exactly what we've Done.

Noriega, and Sadaam, Assad and Bin Laden....were all on the company pay roll.

And Isis....seems to be actively advancing an agenda consistent with Huntington's Clash of Civilizations Concept... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clash_of_Civilizations ....(on the path laid out by Zbig Bryzynski in "the Grand Chess Board".... And followed on by 'The Men from Jinsa" and their 'Beit Ya-known' (phonetic) plan for Israeli Domination and Ethnic Cleansing in the region. (Adopted by PNAC and the NeoCons, before the end of the last century.)

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I'd post that but your CRYING has reached the Mods it would seem. Or did you ask you Clavern for back-up?

Crying with laughter.....perhaps.

You incompetent BOOB of a TROLL....

WHY DO YOU keep talking? Oh that's right....virtual fingers are harder to break-off and take home, with me.... Cause you wouldn't talk like that to MY face....would you?

Feel to give it try. I'm Always available to see Exactly what kind Creep I'm talking to..

Venice Pier. Come giver a try if you like. You Kook, Goon, and Barney. Talk is always cheap....but your words are worthless - like the "intelligence" behind them. TU VALES NADA. PUTO.
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I have no idea what you're babbling about.

But, since you wanty to kill me, come do it.

Name
Address
House Phone Number

NYC > Bx > Pelham Bay > #6 Train, last stop.
You tell me when you get there.
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I've been replying to YOUR specious Ad Hominem arguments for long enough....

No...I have no interest in finding YOU or calling you out.

You want to talk shit to me...be a man, and lock me in the eyes while you do it. Punk.
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Really, Assad is an Allowite? So I was telling the truth? Thank you for informing me of that.

saudi arabia has oil.
unplug saudi arabia, we unplug us, then we die.

Skip the historical innacuracies, they're irrelevent anyways.
The 7 banned countries are all states in the midst of upheaval with poor relations with everybody. Kinda like throwing a big party, but not inviting a couple of pals everyone hates. Or not letting some meth heads come into your store when all they do is spend 50¢ per week on a pack of gum. Big woop.

But again, if you feel so compelled to inform people of the facts, INFORM THEM OF THE FACTS.
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Happy to inform you Iran is not how you describe. They are the target of Saudi animosity and Aggression....which we follow through on. Europe and Russia both have close ties.

Not a fan of the orders....because we have a lawful duty to care and protect the refugees from our illegal Regime Change operations in Iraq and Syria....AND on-going destabilization efforts in the region more Generally... So no. Not a fan.

Why did the First People let US in? Terrorism seems mild compared to what we did to them.
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Pal, you are hardly in a place to tell me about Iran. I can go on about them since the Aryani where still in what is now Kazakhstan 4000 years ago onto how they fathered our Abrahamic God, and how 2000 years ago Jesus was still Mithra, died in the flame, born in the flame on December 25th plus her 12 attendants n all that cute stuff,,,

US animosity stems from 1979's ayatollah & the hostages situ,,,

You ever consider downloading one of them Google apps?

PS: If you find the guilt intolerable, you can always return your property to its rightful heirs and return to from whence you came,,,
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No. Our 1979 "October Surprise" - Hostage crisis was the SECOND break-in @ the US embassy in Tehran....the first one (under the Shah) revealed to the Iranian people what WE trained the Savahk to do to them. Lots of docs recovered. Very embarrassing. The second event mostly sscrubed the first from the pages of history. And Don't forget John H. Waller and Kermit Roosevelt overthrowing Mossadeh. That Didn't make us popular in the neighborhood.

Not a fan of the Ayatollah anymore than I am all the Christo-fascists in This country.

But apparently MI -6 was....because they let his Paris exile speeches reach Iran over the BBC short wave. If this guy is an Enemy (and not an ASSET) why do that?
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Savak*
Mossadegh*

You really have a hard time connecting the dots to my flashing neon sign, there, don'tcha, troll?
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Wow spelling NAZI. Way to put it on me, there....I see Very little brightness coming from your direction... So no lights of any sort really.

Perhaps you can show me by Exposition....exactly whatever it is, that YOU are Going On and On And On about
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Also, this Quaker/Abraham Hebrew hooey is a bunch of bunk.

Besides being an islamist apologist, you also speak like one, odd for someone who so thoroughly bungles their history.

Attempting to remedy said bungling with a pile of irrelevent wiki quotes merely served to accentuate your errors, not hide them.
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Sorry bud. Quakers have opposed bellicose aggression of the sort you revel in - since there's been Quakers.

I speak on behalf of DECENT people of faith. Islamists advance the agenda of the CIA and Israel - traditionally. So NO.NOT A FAN. But I know that Sufis Don't agree with any of that Islamism bunk(that we Endorse, by supporting the Saud family). So Islam isn't the problem.

Personally as an Anti-Zionist, I can separate political and religious questions. I Wish that you could, too.

What Torah portion did you read from....at YOUR Bar Mitzvah? I can look up the Hebrew name for it if you like.
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You're trolling me because you made incorrect assumptions about my perspective and my political allegiance.
Notice how I'm not getting any upvotes?
I'm not part of this crew, fella.

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I love your meme.... Upvote!
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I Don't upvote statements of the sort you offer....really ever. But where I can ... I've refrained from downvoting your comments. Anyway...not chasing You. Just replying. Not putting anything on you (intentionally) but the philosophy and ethos which your comments seem to support.
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I'm a little confused, am I a war mongering alt-right Amercian,
Or an Israeli?

I'm a little confused as to which Modda you claim you're addressing now,,,

Aren't you the 5th generation Quaker peacenick?
A lil touchy there, ain'tcha?
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You tell me....who ARE you? Karl Rove? Jeff Gannon?

Unlike you....I try and avoid unwarranted assumptions.

Touchy?!?!

You speak to me (asinine tho your sentiments may be) and I reply.

IRL....a fool stick his fingas in my chest....he must WANT me to take those Home...with me.
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So can you kindly point out where I upset you so much? 

And what ethnographic ethnicity am I, btw? Since my parents where born 6000 miles apart, and they raised me 1000 miles away (note, miles, that be a hint right there) from the nearest. Shucky, another clue for the clueless: I'm 1.5 hrs drive from your State. And unlike cornbuskers like you, I've known em all, including moslems, since BEFORE there was an islam. I'm sure you'll eventually figure it out,,,
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None of what you.say makes much.sense to me...but even more so now. I'm in the Califoria Republic state. Cornbuskers? Don't know what that is...

Rather than make me guess whom your G-D/Messiah Complex specially focuses on (or whom you think yourself to be)...why Don't YOU...TELL ME, what motivates a professed."non-practicing" Christian to Justify Murdering Christians (and others) in Palestine?

My best guess was Jeff Gannon. If you want to do a Reveal about yourself....be my guest. But I wouldn't want to go around slandering or libeling you....in the way you've been content to do to me so far....

What makes you think you've upset me?

Again I would like to reiterate.that I Don't know YOU - just the shit you say. That there are poorly informed, immoral folks in our country is no surprise to me. So Anger Ain't the word.

Disappointment is more like it. But the good news, is that BRIGHT people might be reached by my rebuking of your foolishness.
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I'm against invading or intefering with the affairs of any country except when warranted by SELF defense, or are you really this obtuse?

You don't know what I'm thinking, even after having read it.
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Please show me a purely Self-Defense war in US history please. 1812? 1776? After that there's the STATED reason - and the actual reason for each of 'em.

Pearl Harbor? A friend of mine's mother was a Code Breaker during the 40's. We KNEW what was coming. Let it Happen on Purpose - LIHOP. Operation Rising Orange.

Avail YOURSELF of the google machine, then...if you prefer.
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A lil' low on the meds there, eh, pal?

YOU'RE the one referring to me as a bad Jew because of what I said about Afghanistan, jack.

Which reminds me, why such peace love n kumbaya for moslems but not
Jews

Christians

Yazidis

Zoroastrians

Hindus

or

Bhuddists,

etc?
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Unlike YOU...I'm NOT an ETHNO-Centric BIGOT.

So I have no hatred for those from different countries, cultures or different religions. In FACT I try to hold EVERYONE equally accountable.

But your apparent inability to differentiate between Victims and Victimizers....seems to keep you from seeing this. After all....how did I start TROLLING YOU, exactly.

I think that I just pointed out - where I think that the things that you've been saying in this thread here, were absolutely Awful, when Not just plain WRONG....

Wasn't that YOUR TRIGGER?
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^ didn't read past the first line.

PA Quaker since the 19th century isn't that what you said?

You lie too much, troll.

Didn't realize you were that OP, just figured you were one of the butthurt habibis on it,,, Although as your babbling continued, I did recall one of them went on a bit too, who'da thunk twas you?

Later troll, was a doozy.

I might pop back to poke you later, but I'm bored already, and you already gavr me the thread I needed.

Laterzzz,,,
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F**k you too. Jerk. YOU asked ME - you.Nosy miserable F**k...about HOW MANY GENS of Quaker I come from. Frankly, I'm done trying to educate or inform you. I know 19th century Pennsylvania FOR SURE....but II'm not going to do ANY more research forYOU. I know who I am. You.Don't. But I've seen ENOUGH - TO KNOW WHO YOU ARE..
TROLL they name is Modda.

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Quakers? How many gens back you go?

The only one being bellicose is you, dear pretend Hebrew Quaker.

Apparently you failed to read my bit on the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq?

Do you know what a Zorastrian is, you silly child?
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I go back to Pennsylvania @ least to the late 19th century. Luckily ALL are welcome @ meeting (silent worship) - regardless of background. So generations are unnecessary.

I am quite familiar with Zarathustra...Zoroaster....Ormuz and Airman. Why?

Glad we can agree on IRAQ. But then I suppose the "Pottery Barn Rule" would require that we take their refugees...wouldn't it?
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In addition to your fervered islamist apologist stance, your "Peace unto you" phrasings and spelling of "Savak" as "Savahk" indicate you are an moslem Arab.
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Your lack of reasoning capacity identifies you as a thoroughly Deluded a-hole.

I guess Android's spellchecker is an Islamist apologist as well then?

When you transliterate - multiple acceptable spellings are not uncommon. But as a SCHOLAR....you Must know that already.
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That and your assumption that my alleged stance is indication that I am an Israeli Jew.
You then, a self-described Hebrew (descended straight from Abraham, no less!) attempted to use such as a means to insult me.

Oh, the upvote reference was to the right wingers here you are pretending I am in (Satanic, according to you) league with. THEY are not upvoting me for a reason. *HINT HINT*
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I think you're a PROTO-Typical ZIONIST apologist. Not a Jew or an Israeli. And while that country has veered hard to the right towards fascism....many people there hold my position, and THEIR newspapers don't completely ignore and marginalize that position....so there's free speech and pluralism laid bare.
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Again II'm a Quaker. Not a Muslim. I am also certified as a "Hebrew"....from the tribe of Abraham, not Jacob/Israel.."
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Isaac Joseph Ben-Abraham - should I give you the first 2 in Hebrew?
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Why? According to you, I'm a bad Jew, yes? Why tell me that which any Jew, Christian, and Moslem already knows?

What next, Y'eshua bar Yosephus?
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You're NOT a good Jew. Hell you Don't sound like you're good for much of anything - but defending the indefensible; And dittoed-ING atrocities and violations of US and International Law.
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Yitzak Yoseph.
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Like the Allies had to in order to liberate Nazi Germany and Japan?
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Notice the liberals are the first to come defend Satan's favorite cult.
Are you finally seeing the correlation young voters ?
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Wtf you have a point but can't we be forgiving people
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Scary times....
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Isn't it hypocritical to assume that the views of my neighbor next door are the same as the views of someone 7,000 miles away?
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No offense dobbys_boggart, Islam does not expect tolerance anywere
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I guess by that logic we shouldn't tolerate christians then, since they hate all of those groups too.
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Most Christians are pretty tolerant of other beliefs, but most of us that are mature enough to have that viewpoint don't spend their time on meme sites. Maybe that's the problem with everyone here...
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5 CHRISTIAN Organizations? Tell me is WORLDVISION one of those?

Traditionally that's JUST a Good-to-Marginal Cover for Covert Operations....
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The real question is: are you Americans happy to become more like an Islamic State with religious laws?
I thought you were proud to be the land of the freedom.
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We're Already on our Way.... and it ain't SHARIA

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who said that you will follow the Islamic laws?,
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Nadie. Nadie A Todo.
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its funny how muslims wanted to stay here the whole time and then trump came and now they want to leave
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But those over here accept all these things. Their fellows over there are an ignoramus.
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Yay!! You're back!! <3
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Probably not for long. This place seems to have gone to hell since I left. The renegadesiths of the world look like they've multiplied like rabbits once Trump got elected. Must've been a green light for them to rear their ugly heads.
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Too true.. :(
If you make any meme comments sooner or later, let me know! <3
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Thanks for the link :)
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Will do. :)
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Good to know you're still in my fan club. :D
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Spot on sir. Islam is a serious problem. It is incompatible with modernity and the radicals, well they are only following the manual. If christians followed the bible literally, they would pose the same threat. However, christianity has evolved to accommodate modernity and has not been an organized threat for centuries. There are the few odd balls, but as an organization, no. Sunday schools don't teach hate like madrasas do. Btw, it should be Saturday school. The Sabbath is Saturday. There goes one of the 10 commandments that has been changed to suit modernity. Kind of a big deal. But, christianity has realized that it must keep up with it''s market to remain viable. Islam, they long for the 7th century and many are still stuck there. As an atheist, I see christianity as a challenge to progress and it's followers to lack reason and for many, they don't even know what is in the bible. They are rubes. Muslims are true believers and know the qua ran well. They represent a danger to any civilization that they invade. Comparing christianity to islam is a true false equivalence.
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I can't upvote this (cause I can't begin to unpack half of this - the WRONG PARTS jump right out at me.). But no DOWNVOTE either - cause we all to our entitled beliefs...even when badly misinformed

Madrasa = SCHOOL in Arabic. Can I find a Christian school preaching HATE? What about REGENT UNIVERSITY?

The Sabbath was changed by the Catholic church from SATURN's Day to SUNday in keeping with the HIEROPHANTIC elements of the New Religion....whose BACKSTORY sounds a just BIT, like that of Dionysus.
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Brother, I have no love for either one. The catholic church had the authority to change one of the 10 commandments? Well, that's new. I know we disagree, and no down vote for you sir. But, let's be reasonable, the Sunni madrasas are on another level when it comes to promoting hate. Not to say regent is a bastion of inclusive love. They do not promote suicide bombings and killing non believers,, and the destruction of Israel. I think they are all crazy and mental on both sides. At this time in history, Islam is more dangerous. Cheers.
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I think that I see the downsides and DANGERS posed by OUR fundis, a bit more than you do....but hey - diversity, pluralism and RESPECT....I support ALL that....for THEM and YOU, too. So cheers. Upvote.

The Commandments haven't changed....but the NEW AND OLD TESTAMENTS sure have...

Whole books - just CAST ASIDE. "The Gospel of the Youth and Infancy of Jesus" - for instance. If you know the origin story of Dionysus....you may ALREADY have the upshot and bullet points.

While Regent University Don't promote the sort of DESPERATE and ASSYMETRICAL tactics one sees at play in Suicide attacks....they sure DO support killing of the "infidel" Don't they?

IF You say , "NO"...I may have to get some Iranians, Iraqis, Syrians and Afghans to disagree with you.

And in Judaism the story of MASSADA strikes me as similar....but LESS costly for the Empire, overall.

Not ALL schools teach the same thing. In any faith or philosophical Tradition. So let us distinguish WAHABI/SALAFIST schools from the more standard Sunni ones. The SAUDIS fund the bad ones - with the support and assistance of our governments, oil companies, and Intel services (CIA - MI-5/6).

As for the destruction of the "ZIONIST ENTITY" - I can't say that I, or MANY OTHER Jews and Hebrew's don't disagree - provided it involves no BLOODSHED (I am for a SECULAR One State Solution - w/ an Internationally accessible Jerusalem).

Now DEBKA and MEMRI (the Israeli SPY fronts) likes to mistranslate that to imply wiping it off the map (with Nukes or by FORCE) - means violence - but I Don't think that is a FAIR translation or Understanding.
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Upvote for you and no down votes ever, my educated friend. For christians, it would seem the 10 commandments have changed. The Sabbath, is the 7th day or Saturday, this predates AD by a few thousand years in calendars. So, a guy gets murdered in the OT for picking up sticks on Saturday. You would be surprised how many christians think Sunday is the Sabbath. I even had a BJU grad, argue with me and come back the next day to apologize. He of course had a reason.. Sunday was the resurrection. I contend that this is nonsense. Completely made up. Nowhere in the NT is the sabbath changed even in the books Paul allegedly wrote. Your point is well taken about Wahabi being a special kind of violent. And the government black support for these Saudi lunatics is a fact. Look at Yemen today. Cheers.
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Bang! I'm Knocked Over.

Thank you.

In fact....'astral theology' seems to have a TONNE to do with that..and plenty of the symbolism, and numbers in the NT and the Religion itself (eg= Dec25th) seem to conform.
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Oh boy. I like this guy.
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WhoWAS THAT? Bow chicka bow-bow.

Giggity.
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