Blue states are fighting this tooth and nail but, unfortunately for them, they no longer have any legal standing.

Not having any reference to what Trump said or any context, I can only say that this is taken out of context. The left is notorious for selective editing to make conservatives, Republicans and especially Donald Trump look bad. The left doesn't care about facts or the truth, just making Trump look bad.

If Trump actually said this then it was way back when Trump was a Democrat. Because it is clear that the Democrats work their butts off trying to figure out ways to circumvent the Constitution.

The Constitution was written from the point of view of We The People, not the politicians. It is a document that tells the government what we will allow them to do, it was never a document to tell the people what to do. That is why the constitution is the law of the land, because it was designed to put limits on an organization that always grow corrupt. There is just no way to stop governments from going corrupt and many of them start off corrupt.

Trump was never a Democrat. Trump was never Reform Party. Trump was never a Republican. Andrew Cuomo was a Democrat, now he's an Independent. Mayor Adams was a Republican then he was a Democrat then he was an Independent now he is no more. Bloomberg was a Republican, then he was a Democrat for a few weeks.

In New York City, party isn't such a big deal. It's not even much of a descriptive label. It's just a word. A silly word. It's a word used for an organization, nay, a corporation. Politicians latch on to one when they're running for office so they can utilize its machinery and funding.

It's like Hitler with the National Socialist something something Party. What's in a name, eh? Hitler was so broke he could barely fund himself, let alone come up with funds to start a new party. So he found himself an established one, gave a whopping entire two whole speeches in support of its platform, and then proceeded to hijack and disembowel it, retrofitting it to suit his own goals and agenda. After all was said and done, the actual real Socialist party members were either dead or in concentration camps awaiting death.

Not to sound like the spoiled elitist, but we have too much to do here, too many hobbies to pick from, so things like political parties aren't really needed it to fill that void wrought by sheer boredom. My high school couldn't even get us to go to the homecoming game if they paid us. They'd have an actual rally every year right before, begging us to go. A handful did, but I'm not sure how many of those weren't on the team or in the marching band.

I have relatives in Fort Worth, and one of the daughters was in the hs marching band. One time here visiting, they showed a video on a cell of it, and the football field was a stadium. I mean, the high school football field was an actual stadium. And it was packed. A stadium. And it's always packed when they have a game. And everybody's yelling like crazy. I mean, I'm not sure you can get that many people for the Rolling Stones 125th Annual Final Farewell Reunion Tour. A stadium.

These are the people that make a basic political party an actual part of their identity. It is totally incomprehensible to them that that's just a shrug of the shoulders here. I mean, everyone I know who registered as a Republican said they did it just so they can pay lower taxes. That's it. Lower taxes. They weren't about saving the unborn fetuses of the world so we can nuke them later. They just wanted to pay less taxes.

Sorry but he was. Using Debbie Wasserman Schultz is not going to help your meme make any point. Every single time she opens her mouth nothing but lies come out. I would trust her with anything. She is as sleazy as they come

Yes, Trump was all those. And more.

Those are my words, not hers.

"Because my mother came from way further south, namely, Puerto Rico? And her and her family busting their backs as poor dirt farmers growing sugar cane and corn"

My dad was born in a log cabin with dirt floors in Alabama. He grew up on a small farm and if they didn't grow it they didn't eat. When my dad was a teenager my grandfather got the idea that he could earn more money as a migrant share cropper so he sold the farm and took my dad with him work the cotton fields.

When my dad graduated from high school it was during the Great Depression. He hated farming and set out to find a job. In the city he moved to he walked the streets going from business to business asking if anyone needed any help. At some point he got lucky and walked into a plumbing shop and they hired him. He remained a plumber the rest of his life.

I don't know why you are so desperate to condemn me because of where I was born? I have never criticized you, your mom, or Puerto Rico. I criticize ideologies but if they're wrong they deserve to be criticized.

I wouldn't even know where to begin even if I wanted to criticize your ancestry or Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico is a tropical island, it's probably really pretty there. I haven't been there but I lived in Hawaii just under a year and I imagine the two places are somewhat similar.

I made fun of New York City but that's because it's just a big city with far too many people, making it very crowded. I hate big cities for that reason. That's why we left the LA area. As it is I live too close to Salt Lake City. When I retire I'm moving to the country and away from any big city.

I cannot help what some of my ancestors did. It does not make me automatically approve of everything they did. The same is true of your ancestors. Everyone has someone in their lineage who has done truly awful things. It also does not automatically make them evil people. They were just people of their time.

Today there are a whole lot of people who have no problem murdering their unborn babies. They think nothing of it. Are you going to tell me that slavery is more evil than infanticide? And you probably support infanticide. We've ended the lives of more innocent human beings than all of our wars. Far more than people brought here from Africa and their descendants who were slaves.

Oh and by the way, LBJ was a racists. His welfare program was designed, as he said, "to have those [n words] voting Democrat for the next 100 years".

"Oh, I would say there's a lot more. It's called the South"

DUDE!!!!! You went there didn't you. You should go for an extended visit in any part of the deep South and observe people, talk to people, get to know people.

You really need to stop stereotyping people who were born in a certain location. I suppose up in New York City, stereotyping Southerners is pretty common. People talk about a few Southerners who are waiting for the South to rise again but no one talk about the grudge the North still holds against the South and always will.

"You know you don't need Trump tariffs to not buy Chinese products."

You are mostly right. There are products that are still made in America. But the medium we are talking on is entirely Chinese made. You cannot buy an American made cellphone or computer. No one in America makes the components that make up a computer.

Even if something says Made in America, it is very likely made with Chinese parts. All automobiles are full of Chinese made parts.

"American manufacturing will not compete with China much on account of there's tens of thousands of jobs that have become available in manufacturing since Obama and many go unfilled."

Obama and Biden didn't create private sector jobs. The only jobs Democrat create are government jobs. Many of these jobs are for people to come into the office and play video games all day long. I have witnessed this first hand.

Government jobs do not benefit the economy, only private sector jobs will.

If a person wants to start a business in America making widgets they have to check their competition to see how much they are selling for. Then they need to decide if they can sell those widget at the same price and still make a profit. If they can't then the idea for that business gets canned.

"Given the choice of standing and working hard or just pressing a button on a machine endlessly all day is slightly less appealing to some than sitting in an air conditioned cubicle playing on social media at a job people don't look down on as much for whatever reason."

It sounds like you've never worked in a manufacturing plant before. They don't hire people to push a button all day long. They hire people to write logistic software to make machines push that button for them.

Private businesses cannot possibly afford to pay people to play on social media all day long only the government can do that. If a business does not produce a product then they go out of business.

Yes, the Jim Crow segregationist South totally dropped the racism because LBJ told them to stop.

You said the same thing to me a week ago, about mischaracterizing you based on your history, and by your history, I mean your specific family history, not a regional or racial or cultural or heritage or historical one, but an actual genealogical history.

Mere minutes before that, you actually said that this history that is literally your own personal history was actually my fault, my responsibility, my doing, something I wanted to bring back. Because, um, why again? Because my mother came from way further south, namely, Puerto Rico? And her and her family busting their backs as poor dirt farmers growing sugar cane and corn was just a pocket full of change away from slavery almost, right? Is that how you look at it? It was almost like slave labor, and actually was work also done by slaves way back, so therefore because my mother's family did that labor themselves they were practically like slaves in the Southern United States?

Nor was that the only time you said it.

Here's how it works, I'm very petty and vindictive. I try not to be, but I am. You put it on me, I lob it back on you. You lay out the parameters, I stick to them. It's your game, and it's every intention of mine to make sure you win. You want to lay blame? I want to give credit where credit is due. It's your heritage, not mine. So you want to go there, you know I can take you there. People ask for something, I do what I can to provide to them. Because I aim to please. Don't like it? Don't do it.

Why should the North hold a grudge against the South? The South lost. What, are they holding a grudge against them for losing?

Wasn't it actually the Republicans versus the Democrats anyways? Isn't that the narrative now? The Republican race inhabited the Northern States, and the Democratic race lived in the Southern States. Then after the Republicans elected Kennedy, they all migrated south because Nixon's Southern Strategy, pushing the Democrats north, right? So my mother traded her home for yours. This is good to know.

Correct, Obama and Biden did not create any private sector jobs. The private sector created private sector jobs. That's why private sector jobs are called private sector jobs, because they're created by the private sector.

False, it's actually a Republican trick, to create federal jobs in order to hire our way out of recessions which they have a knack for creating.

It's not as severe but it would be the similar to using a picture of Hitler with the words of Ghandi.

There may be 2 people alive right now who want to revive slavery but 99.99999999% of ALL Americans, right or left, do not want to revive slavery in any way shape or form. In fact Trump putting tariffs on China will go a long way in stopping us from supporting Chinese slavery. It will cause the cost of Chinese goods to go up but it will allow American manufacturing to complete with China. I for one am ecstatic that I won't have to buy from China. Not because I hate Chinese people but because I hate slavery.

As far as segregation, the Democrats have already brought that back. Now they package it as protecting black from those evil white racists. The end result is the same. They've created segregates dorms in college. Now racist white libs don't have to associate with blacks in college. And blacks feel protected from a non-existent threat.

Oh, I would say there's a lot more. It's called the South.

You know you don't need Trump tariffs to not buy Chinese products.

American manufacturing will not compete with China much on account of there's tens of thousands of jobs that have become available in manufacturing since Obama and many go unfilled. Given the choice of standing and working hard or just pressing a button on a machine endlessly all day is slightly less appealing to some than sitting in an air conditioned cubicle playing on social media at a job people don't look down on as much for whatever reason.

Democrats bought segregation back? Really? Democrats run college dorms?
I find that very offensive that you think Republicans don't seek higher education. There are actually some that do.
Probably.

"Democrats bought segregation back?"
Yes. What do you call it when blacks are given special "white free" housing at colleges. Isn't that segregation?

"Democrats run college dorms?"

Democrats, socialists and other Marxist dominate all levels of academia. The run the schools, decide the curricula, hire the professors and make college policies. This all includes running the dorms. Many colleges have "white free" dorms for black students so that they can feel safe. From what I have no idea.

"I find that very offensive that you think Republicans don't seek higher education. There are actually some that do.
Probably."

And that comment is not offensive?

Up until the last 10 or more years conservatives always tried to push their kids through college. There is a trend on the right to stop that. Colleges have stopped educating and now only indoctrinate.

It is very sad when mom and dad send precious little Johnny off to college only for him to return full of all kinds of crap that mom and dad taught him to stay away from. Now little Johnny has parked his butt out on a street corner in Portland, Oregon throwing Antifa supplied brick at ICE officers.

Mom and dad didn't radicalize little Johnny. It was the college they sent him to. Now little Johnny has no chance at all of ever getting a job and making a life for himself. Johnny will not bow to the colonists who run businesses and exploit and oppress their employees while earning trillions of dollars.

Now all of the little Johnny's are out there freeloading in the style of Bernie Sanders and Karl Marx. And because of that nothing is being produced and the whole country suffers and then the economy collapses. All of the little Johnny's are now cheering for about a week and then reality sets in that there's no food, no internet, no money, no anything. Then a small handful of little Johnny's realize they had been duped, that they were complete and total idiots. The rest are just too stupid to realize that they caused the very problems they are crying about.

No, they did not.

What you call that is 'Blacks' and whomever else requesting their own separate housing and the school catering to them.

But you can provide me the connection to the Democratic Party if you wish.

Same with the school curriculum.

No, in terms of Conservatives pushing their kids to get education. Some do, but...

Let's just say stereotypes don't come out of nowhere. The reputation for a certain area/belt/ideological sector/politically identified region of the United States traditionally being backwards and quite profoundly uneducated isn't exactly just a punchline for movies.

True, the upper class in that region always pushed their children into higher education, but having a rather stratified social hierarchy, that's been a bit of a small percentage there. Now I'm not saying the caricatures are completely accurate, but they are based on something.

Reactionary anti-intellectualism is a major reason the Conservative Movement came into being. Basically conservatism was born as a reaction against the Civil Rights Movement, the Women's Rights Movement, and the Scopes Monkey Trial, with abortion added later. That's it. That's what it is. Fairytales over knowledge and science.

And those that registered as Democrats did it because they don't want to be associated with the Ku Klux Klan and the move to revive segregation and slavery in the South. It's of no benefit to them, and the baggage that comes with the label of those people, well, it isn't quite worth it in their eyes.

I often see YouTube comments from people in Europe and their totally dumbfounded that Americans are so completely obsessed with religion. It's probably along those same lines

I used to frequent an Alternative Rock site's forum before joining here, and being UK-based, most of the posters were British (at the time). When religion got brought up, you could practically hear them spit as they typed, it was rather surprising how much ire would be in their reaction. I mean the notion just seemed to irritate them harshly. There are other Europeans on the site, Aussies, Canadians.... and they would be dismissive to just plain old casual at most in approaching it.

It was also part of their negative stereotyping of an Americans, another symptom of our profound ignorance and backwardness.

Wow haha

https://youtu.be/F6X-xCXJYCU?si=7QlMJCb2L9GSgkXO

Watch it for yourself. Maybe you'll find some excuse to say it's fake or something

Why would he have said it back when he was a democrat? Who would have asked him if he was supposed to uphold the constitution before he was president?

He's talking about illegal aliens. Illegal aliens are not protected by the constitution. The rights mentioned in the constitution are inalienable but the constitution does not impower the government to extend those protections to non-citizens.

We do not have the right to extend the 5th amendment to people from other countries any more than we have the right to extend the 2nd amendment to people from other countries.

The only type of investigation that needs to be performed is if they documentation allowing them to be in our country. If they don't then out the door they go. End of story. We have enough of our own problems to worry about, we don't need the rest of the world coming here illegally and bringing their problems with them.

We used to only allow people to legally immigrate to America if they had a skill and the education that we needed to help build our economy. We should go back to that model. Letting just anyone come across the border without knowing anything about who they are and why they came here is extremely dangerous. We estimate that about 100 thousand Muslims illegally entered this country during Biden. We don't know if any of them are terrorists. Plus this makes it extremely easy for child abductions for the intent of sex slavery. Just in case you don't know there are more child sex slaves in the world than all of the African slaves that ever lived in the US. Left is so concerned about slavery that no longer exists but pays absolutely no attention to the slavery that does exist. Why is that? Is slavery only bad if they were African slaves? Many of the girl abducted are from Africa and some are African-American. Does that matter now?

No that is not exactly what he said. He was asked about due process for citizens and non-citizens and he said, "I don't know, I'm not a lawyer", which is political speak for "I don't want to get backed into a corner" politically speaking or for "I am getting tired of this interview and I just don't care about answering your questions"

The 5th amendment is not the entirety of the constitution. I don't know why he deferred to lawyers and it really doesn't matter.

It is a huge stretch to say that based on what he said in this interview that he does not understand the constitution. Especially when everything he has done as president has been completely within the confines of the constitution.