MS13 deportables

Enemies of the nation screaming death to America, don't get due process.

Tell me what legal people are getting deported.

😂 😂 😂 Killmore Garcia is in his own country where he belongs.

He’s a criminal punk with a long rap sheet who beats his wife among other things. We don’t need or want him here.

What 3 people?

😂 yeah sure, but he doesn’t have a rap sheet as long as that punk from MS13 Killmore

I do

Why do you care about people caring for the safety of their country?

Wha?

Not according to the DOJ

Life is like that, sometimes you agree sometimes you don’t.

You'll need to provide sources because the last guy the left claimed wasn't a criminal beat his wife and stabbed a police officer and was let out of jail 3 times.

I thought the constitution was to protect it's citizens, not visitors. If I go to Canada I have to follow the countries laws, but I'm protected by the United States if anything were to happen abroad... So if a illegal alien or someone who has outstayed on their visa is breaking the law, they are not a citizen, and therefore not entitled to the protections under the US constitution. For the love of law in the USA many citizens have lost legal battles against the definition of constitutional rights and law. The government has written many different laws that don't hold up in court when a citizen someone little is defending their rights against corporations, or those who wronged them. Plus court is not free and is very expensive. It's a citizens right to be protected by the constitution as a shield, that doesn't mean it will hold up in court.

People in the country illegally do not have the same due process protections as citizens.

What you have said is anti-American. No where in the Constitution does it say that due process only applies to citizens. In fact, in the specific passages and amendments covering due process it says things like "no person". Never does it say 'citizens'.

And we have an entire section of our judicial system setup to deal with questions of immigration. Guess what happens in that system? The government STILL has to prove their case. They still have to provide evidence. The defendant is STILL innocent until proven guilty. And they STILL have the right to legal representation.

So, you are provably wrong. And I know that you'll never admit that you are wrong, not even to yourself. You'll either go through some mental gymnastics to convince yourself you were right or you'll just do the MAGA thing and just double down on being wrong.

But deep inside, you'll still know it. You are wrong and what you have said is anti-American.

“The Supreme Court has established that while all individuals within U.S. territory are entitled to due process, the specific protections afforded to non-citizens, including undocumented immigrants, can vary depending on factors like their legal status and the specific legal context. “

“The extent of due process protections can also be limited in certain cases, such as when undocumented immigrants are found to be criminals or when they have engaged in certain types of criminal activity. “

Especially the part after 'undocumented immigrants' and before "or when."

Because what would that entail? How would that happen?

What does it matter? They do not have the same rights as citizens. You are wrong again.

Because if they can snatch a dude off the street, claim he's a violent murderer who also beats his wife, ship him out to another country, then shrug their shoulders when told to bring him back, they can absolutely do that to you.

So...it does matter. A lot.

No they can’t, I am a citizen so they can’t deport me to another country chicken little.

Oh? What's to stop them? You have an invisible force field that will prevent them from grabbing you off the street? Then you have some magical power that prevents them from accusing you of being a criminal without evidence or a trial? And on top of that, you have a mystical ability that won't let them ship you off to some other country?

And then, when your family says "hey, he was a citizen" they won't say "oops, sorry, But he's in another country and we have no ability to bring him back."

You have those magical powers? Because the thing that lays out all the rights you have is the same one that gives those rights to immigrants (documented or undocumented).

“And then, when your family says "hey, he was a citizen" they won't say "oops, sorry, But he's in another country and we have no ability to bring him back."”

Has that happened? No it hasn’t chicken little. What has happened is a criminal illegal alien was deported as he should have been. Boo hoo.

Lol I guess birth certificates and social security cards and passports and state IDs insurance records, are all pretty easy to forge but if our government was as stupid as whistlelock claims they are then I assume the papertrail and address history will stand up in court if someone really was innocently accused as being illegal.

To put it this way the constitution only applies to you in the court of law when you are in need of defending your constitutional rights that has been violated. Your constitutional rights are probably being violated on a daily basis from people in space, or through your phone. Unless you can prove something is unconstitutional in the court of law starting in your state and working your way up to the federal court who still might throw it out or send it to your state supreme court, your constitutional rights is a belief and standard of protection from the government operating within the law. The constitution has been re written before, and weather you abide by the state constitution or the federal constitution depends on the situation. Still trying to get a judge to protect your constitutional rights depends on the enemy your going up against, and how much money your willing to spend. We don't live in the 13 colonies anymore.

Laws break the constitution all the time. It's a legal scholar nightmare to try and win a case using the constitution, against state laws, that break federal laws. It is a huge monster. I understand the innocence behind innocent until proven guilty. Many people sit in jail waiting for the day they are proven innocent. Many people harmed by individuals or corporations wait years for restitution just to have a law throw out the case. Deportation is not a death sentence. Due process takes time. It's not pretty. People get hurt. Eventually due process painfully works it's way through court and the justice is blind.

yes. And what you have described is the due process. That process of the government having to prove that someone has broken that law. Then there are a series of appeals. Cases can be proven to be constitutional or unconstitutional.

And every single person that was sent to that prison was denied that process. The Trump administration rounded them up, declared them criminals and shipped them off to El Salvador.

All without a trial, evidence, or a conviction. That flies directly in the face of our Constitution.

The passport or ID or social security number is the due process. Even a cop uses due process when they pull someone over and if their name is flagged with a warrant out for the arrest, the process continues. I have faith in the system. We cannot continue to harbor people who are not supposed to be in America illegally. It is bad for resources, and the supply/demand chain Which effects the cost of goods. We're still living lives like everything is endless. We have our own citizens riddled in debt, and poverty. American citizen college students that were devalued compared to their foreign adversary. I do not stand for someone foreign finding more privileges than a countries own citizens. And if someone is illegal in the country, deport them. Just make sure the identity is correct, and the paperwork is true.

The government still has to prove that they have no right to be here. They have to present the evidence. A judge has to consider that evidence and make a determination on whether or not it's accurate.

They took those 100+ people, accused them of a crime, and then deported them.

There was no trial to prove that those 100+ were actually undocumented immigrants who had come here illegally.

Imagine that for yourself. You get arrested. They put you on a plane to El Salvador.

You're a citizen. But when and where did you get to show that? When and where did the government prove that you weren't a citizen?

That’s not how they got in. So expedited processes to get them out. Perfectly legal when dealing with criminal aliens. If they crossed the border illegally or under false pretenses they are law breakers and ergo criminals. Deport everyone that the Biden admin let in. They weren’t vetted properly coming in so they get expedited out.

Like I said, you're wrong and you know it. You're putting yourself through some mental gymnastics to justify your position.

These people were accused of a crime. They were denied the due process as mandated by the Constitution. They were sent to a prison in another country. And, if the reporting is accurate, we're still paying El Salvador to keep them in that prison.

That's not deportation. That's imprisoning someone. In another country.

What you have said and continue to support is anti-American. You're free to continue to do so, but just be aware of what you're doing.

Nope criminal aliens are allowed to be deported. If their home country jails them in their sovereign right to control gang activity in their country. So be it.

If you took your us passport, to Europe, visited UK for 90 days, and stayed 1 extra day you would be considered a illegal alien, and would be deported back to the USA. That's how traveling to another country works without using the proper channels.

And that's how it works here too. However- the government needs to be able to prove that. There's a whole process where they go with you in front of a judge and present some documents to show you overstayed and need to be sent back home.

That's not what happened here. All of those people were accused of a crime and then promptly sent to a prison in another country. Because according to El Salvadorian officials, we're paying that country to keep those men in that jail.

Crime history from a database, and being tracked till the arrests I assume took place. Military operations happen every day on a federal level. The moment your passport is scanned the clock starts. The proof is in the pudding. If you have no documentation then you probably shouldn't be here in America. It puts homeless people in a gray area who loose their identification, but still the government has ways to find your identity. It might even get to the point where our government needs to place a blood test or DNA test to a individuals social security number, if they get to the point of what you say they are. But that also violates the constitution. Court is costly and very expensive to do on 40+ million people at the who are living in America illegally. If someone illegal applies for Medicaid in their state, it gets reported to ICE. the nightmare is that this has only happened once in history starting with the white man.