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10 ups, 1mo
Biden-Harris Administration..........DEMOCRATS

They can't stop ruining America.
8 ups, 1mo
The Dems are always unburden by what was. They are also unburden by what evil things they do now and in the future as well.
7 ups, 1mo
Also look at the types that took potshots at presidents(sometimes pulling off the attempts) that reflect the modern democrat- anarchist, big government types, hardcore democrat, commie wannabe/CIA/pissed off wife(. . .just pick one of these), wackjobs, useful idiots.
6 ups, 1mo,
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Opposed 19th amendment: Democrats.
3 ups, 1mo,
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[image deleted] That goes for the 19th Amendment as well.
But you already knew that.
2 ups, 1mo,
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1 up, 1mo,
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1 up, 1mo
0 ups, 1mo,
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Yeah, those racist southerners happened to be democrats.
1 up, 1mo
Some were. Some were Republicans. Lily-Hhite Movement Republicans. Google
0 ups, 1mo
You look them up yet?

tbf, the only reason why slavery was ended was because the North wanted to break the South economically, as that was quite literally their only economic engine. As you can see, to this day they're still flat-out broke, unable to recover from the ending of slavery 150 years later.

Sure, reconstruction made some strides. Initially. But that was soon abandoned once the point was made and the back was broken and for nearly a century the South continued with segregation and lynchings and that quickie substitute for slavery, chain gang prisoner labor, which incentivized the arresting of former slaves and their descendants, a practice which continued to this very day. The justice system didn't get lopsided on a whim.
4 ups, 1mo,
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2 ups, 1mo
2 ups, 1mo,
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No true. There is a myth perpetuated by Democrats of today that all of the racist elements of the Democrat party became Republicans. Why would they do that? When this alleged shift happened none of the Democrats who stayed Democrats (which is most of them) hadn't stopped mistreating blacks.

Up until MLK Jr there were not black Democrats, they were all Republican. So logically if these alleged racists were fleeing a non-existent anti-racist shift in the Democrat party then why would the run to the party that was full of blacks?

But your liberal overlords won't tell you that. They just keep perpetuating the lie to justify your continued racism.

IF ANYONE left the Democrat party in the 50's and 60's it was because the Democrat party is the Marxist party. We were living in the cold war and people wanted nothing to do with Marxism because of the USSR. The threat of "the bomb" was far greater than the threat of a black man moving next door. AND THAT is why people left the Democrat party. It is why Reagan left, it is why my dad left, it is why everyone left.

The problem is racism stayed in the Democrat party but you refuse to acknowledge it.
3 ups, 1mo,
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"Up until MLK Jr there were not black Democrats, they were all Republican."

Prove it.

"So logically if these alleged racists were fleeing a non-existent anti-racist shift in the Democrat party then why would the run to the party that was full of blacks?"

You assume the shift happened over night. It took decades. It wasn’t until the late 90s that the party that preached “States Rights” and “Religious Freedoms” started looking a little more red than blue.

These two main ideas were exactly how Southern Democrats tried, in vain, to keep Slavery legal.

You claim it’s a myth yet the facts just don’t add up.
0 ups, 1mo,
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"'Up until MLK Jr there were not black Democrats, they were all Republican.'

Prove it."

You're just as capable of looking this up as I am. But let me ask you this. If you were black and living in this country from 1865 and later, would you join a political party that was pro-slavery or would you join a political party that was form for the specific purpose of freeing slaves? It's kind of a no-brainer, so even a Democrat should be able to figure that one out.

BTW MLK Sr was a Republican. I had heard the MLK Jr was a Republican but JFK talked him into joining the Democrat Party but I can't find anything to substantiate that. Not a surprise there, all of the search engines are hiding anything that doesn't fit the liberal narrative.

I didn't say it happened overnight, I'm saying that it never happened the way the left is portraying it. Which BTW is almost overnight. I don't know where you get the idea that it lasted into the 90's.

What's wrong with states rights and religious freedom? Are you one of those insane people who think states rights means the same thing as slavery? Slavery had to go and states rights protected slavery from the Federal Government. But automation would have ended slavery eventually. Just like automation has been taking jobs ever since. States rights was created and is what the 10th amendment is about because at the beginning of this country each state thought of themselves as a separate country. Under the Article of Confederation, they were. When the founders wrote the Constitution the states still wanted to maintain that autonomy. It had zero to do with slavery.

Religious freedom is the very first clause of the 1st amendment and it was put 1st for a reason. It was the most important right that the Constitution protects.

If you think that having the right to believe or not to believe in a Supreme Being is not important then you'll just believe whatever the TV tells you to believe. Which is why you're a Democrat.

Religious liberty, once again, had zero to do with slavery. You live in a really twisted and sick world if you equate states right and religion to slavery. Yes, there were people who used the Bible to justify slavery. I am aware of that. But did you know there have always been people who used the same Bible to condemn slavery.
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"Religious freedom is the very first clause of the 1st amendment"

No. Religious protections from government. No centralized religion. No law that can enforce religion.

Except the people who argue for Religious Freedoms are actually arguing for religious exemptions. And, in some cases, supporting laws that create a state religion. Which is exactly what the 1st amendment stands against!

"Which is why you're a Democrat."

I’m a Southern Republican.

"You live in a really twisted and sick world if you equate states right and religion to slavery."

That’s what Lincoln’s Republicans said.

"I am aware of that. But did you know there have always been people who used the same Bible to condemn slavery?"

Yes, just as there are people who use the Bible to condemn anti-immigration laws, Muslim travel bans, and discrimination against homosexuals.
0 ups, 1mo,
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"Except the people who argue for Religious Freedoms are actually arguing for religious exemptions."

You could not be more wrong. You need to understand that our founding fathers were all very devout Christians. It is because of that, not in spite of that, that they gave us the freest nation to have ever existed. It was based on the liberty that was spoken of in the Bible. They saw that combining church and government leads to corruption in the church and THAT is the reason why the opposed state religions. After that churches had as much freedom as everyone else. Why? Because religion are made up of the people.

"I’m a Southern Republican."

I'm a Southern Constitution Party member. Although I was raised in the West. I used to be a Republican because Republican does not equal conservative. And you are proof of that.

"That’s what Lincoln’s Republicans said."

If what you are telling me is true, then "Lincoln's Republicans" were wrong, weren't they? The founding fathers knew exactly what states rights meant. And just so you know that the majority of our founders vehemently opposed slavery. Even Washington and Jefferson opposed slavery. They both were citizens of the state of Virginia. Virginia had passed a law that slave owners could not free their slave. Jefferson was as state legislator and tried several times to get a bill passed to reverse that law so that he and Washington could free their slaves.

"Yes, just as there are people who use the Bible to condemn anti-immigration laws, Muslim travel bans, and discrimination against homosexuals."

Once again people will try to use the Bible to justify a lot of things but the Bible is what it is. You cannot justify pro- or anti-immigration or Muslim travel bans with the Bible because the Bible says nothing about those issues. Muslims did not exist at the time of the Bible. The Bible is very specific on declaring homosexual behavior as sin. But that does not justify discrimination because Jesus said that the first and greatest commandment is to love God and the second is like it and that is to love your neighbor as yourself. There are no special conditions in either of those commandments. But humans are weak and they will do things without realizing the consequences of their action. And when I say humans, I am saying Christians and atheists and everyone in between are weak and do things without realizing the consequences of their actions.
0 ups, 1mo,
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Except the people who argue for Religious Freedoms are actually arguing for religious exemptions.

“You could not be more wrong.”

How?

“Republican does not equal conservative. And you are proof of that.”

Me choosing to vote Democrat in this election or the previous does not make me any less of a Republican. Nor a conservative.

My existence does not justify your frustrations with a political party.

Neither of us dictate such policy. Our peers do.

“Once again people will try to use the Bible to justify a lot of things”

Agreed. But States Rights and Religious Freedoms were used to justify Slavery and Segregation. It is just as egregious as utilizing it to justify discrimination then at it is now.

The only thing that’s changed is the target.

That doesn’t improve the justification.

The government should not allow people to be exempt in their discriminatory practices to groups of people when race, and unfortunately to a lesser degree… sex, are already considered protected from such things. Religion and orientation must be protected, but in a way that discourages, rather than encourage, discrimination.

Christian’s, like you and I, should know better.
0 ups, 1mo
"Except the people who argue for Religious Freedoms are actually arguing for religious exemptions."

Exemptions from what? From taxes? That would not be an exemption, they would be arguing to uphold the 1st amendment. The part that says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"

Religion has always been exempt from any law that Congress might pass. Religion is the only organization that cannot have laws regulating or controlling it.

"Me choosing to vote Democrat in this election or the previous does not make me any less of a Republican."

I agree with that. There are a lot of Republicans are Democrats who changed parties just to skew votes.

By conservative I mean pro-Constitution, pro-liberty, pro- everything this nation was founded on with the exception of slavery. People on the left always talk about change and the lemmings that follow them have no clue that that change is away from liberty into tyranny.

"My existence does not justify your frustrations with a political party."

My frustrations with the Republican Party were alleviated when I joined the Constitution Party.

"But States Rights and Religious Freedoms were used to justify Slavery and Segregation."

How does that make State Rights and Religious Freedom bad? Democrats have gone atheist and yet they are back at arguing for segregation. They have just framed it different. Now segregation is framed as protecting blacks from whites. In the past Democrats framed it as protecting whites from black.

So that means predominantly atheists have also found a way to justify segregation. Religion has nothing to do with this segregation.

Religious Freedom was never used to justify slavery or segregation. Religious freedom is keeping the government from creating a state religion AND telling religions what they can or cannot believe. In fact it is a total and complete hands off approach the government must take when it comes to religion.

It was a few people who looked to twist the Bible to justify slavery and segregation. That is not what religious liberty was solely based on.

After religious liberty, the 1st amendment protects free speech. Do you have a problem with that also? In the history of this nation freedom of speech was also used to support slavery and segregation. Do you want to abolish or regulate free speech. What about freedom of the press. That too was used to support slavery and segregation
1 up, 1mo,
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"You're just as capable of looking this up as I am."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Wergs_Mitchell.

Arthur Wergs Mitchell. First Black Democrat elected in 1935. True, MLK Jr was 5 years old. But surely you’re not being that pedantic…

In fact, if you meant Democratic voter, oof. Then you’re even more wrong.

Why would a blacks person choose a party that once defended or at best was indifferent to pro-slavery?

Easy answer. Unhappy with the specific Republican candidate. That’s how politics works. We still get to choose. Even if it’s against our best interests. Like any middle-class citizens who are going to vote for Trump, for example.

I know, I know… they have their reasons but you still get to choose.

"I had heard the MLK Jr was a Republican but JFK talked him into joining the Democrat Party but I can't find anything to substantiate that. "

He didn’t. They weren’t partisan hacks. They both understood that anti-civil rights factions weren’t as clear cut among party lines. They needed to change BOTH parties from within.

Bill Clinton was the last Southern Democrat elected to the office of President. He hailed from Arkansas. It’s been bright Republican red ever since. That is my basic timeline on when the switch was finalized. He, and his wife, had a significant hand in keeping the South nice and Republican.

You missed my point on states rights and religious freedoms. These were 19th century Southern Democrat defenses to slavery. Now they are 21st century Republican defenses to be anti-civil rights. Second verse same as the first.

However, I’m glad you admit the parties switched on policies but the regional support of those policies remains largely the same. People doomed to repeat history, it seems.
0 ups, 1mo,
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"Arthur Wergs Mitchell. First Black Democrat elected in 1935"

That is not what I asked. I wasn't asking you to find me 1 black Democrat prior to the 50's and 60's. I was explaining to you that blacks were all Republicans before LBJ's Great Society. As a "Southern Republican" I would have thought you would have known that. Now I did say "all" which does sound like no exceptions. But when it comes to the history of mankind there are always exceptions. Like how there were at one time up to 30,000 black slave owners in America.

"In fact, if you meant Democratic voter, oof. Then you’re even more wrong."

Have you done you're research or are you just saying I am wrong because you want me to be wrong?

"Easy answer. Unhappy with the specific Republican candidate."

Did I say they were mindlessly Republican? I said they were Republican because that was the party that freed the slaves. People should vote their conscience and if their political rep. is not representing them then they should vote for someone else.

Bill Clinton is a spineless serial rapist who was controlled by his wife. Bill and Hillary are both miserable human beings. When Hilary first found out that Bill had raped a girl, her political ambition took over and she decided to use that as blackmail to control him and push him all the way to the White House. And anyone that got in the way of her ambition was mysteriously found dead.

Anyone who uses a rationalization to promote states rights is an idiot. States rights is both a great and a bad idea. It is a great idea because the Federal government now has far too much power. They need to be relatively powerless and so insignificant that we barely know they exist. It is bad because states can and have passed laws that violate our Constitutional rights.
0 ups, 1mo
“As a "Southern Republican" I would have thought you would have known that. Now I did say "all" which does sound like no exceptions. But when it comes to the history of mankind there are always exceptions.”

Let me edit you. What you meant to say was…. “Oops! I was wrong. My bad.”

This is what happens you believe rightwing propaganda over actual history.

“Did I say they were mindlessly Republican?”

You just inferred I was less of a Southern Republican for misunderstanding you for being wrong instead of mindlessly agreeing with your immature and inaccurate generalizations. So forgive me if I’m skeptical.

“Bill Clinton is a spineless serial rapist who was controlled by his wife.”

Yes, I’m sure Hillary was in the room every time he cheated on her. <- this is sarcasm.

“Bill and Hillary are both miserable human beings.”

Agreed.

But my point was about the Shifting of the Parties. You already conceded they did this. This was not an invitation for you to rant about your popular opinions of the Clintons.

“Anyone who uses a rationalization to promote states rights is an idiot.”

That’s… surprising. That’s exactly what I’m saying. Hey kudos! Was this written in error and you just didn’t proofread? That happens to me. Mostly with the words have and gave.

You’re not using ChatGPT are you?
0 ups, 1mo,
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"I had heard the MLK Jr was a Republican"

No you haven't.
In addition, you've specifically heard that he was not a Republican. Nor a member of any party.
If you found disagreement with that you've had plenty of time over the years that you've been told this to find otherwise. But you haven't because you didn't because you can't.
0 ups, 1mo,
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I had heard that MLK Jr was a Republican. MLK Sr was a Republican.

Malcolm X turned conservative in his later years.

One day you will turn conservative if you haven't already. It is what all the cool kids are doing.
0 ups, 1mo
Seriously is this you or ChatGPT. I’ll probably not believe you but I can’t prove it. This just reads so much like a fourth grader who read some cliff notes or something…

Ooooh! Are you a fourth grader?
0 ups, 1mo,
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The Bible is a history book that records God's instructions to His people, the Jews. Slavery was just a common occurrence in all civilization throughout history. And it was practiced in many different ways. Some very poor people would voluntarily become slaves just so they would have food to eat. Some people owed people money and rather then paying there debt with money they would indenture themselves until the debt was paid.

The Bible neither condemns or promotes slavery. It just mentions it because it in such common practice. Many people today will try to interpret some passages as promoting slavery just to condemn the Bible but that's because they don't understand history.

In Roman times, just after Jesus was crucified the type of slavery practiced was not based on skin color. It was based on indenture and the people would intentionally indenture themselves.

So the passages in the Bible that tell slaves to honor their masters where not promote slavery. Those passages were no different that telling an employee to honor their employer. But employers have an equal responsibility to honor their employees.

You can hate the Bible, you can hate Christians and Jews but you cannot twist the facts to rationalize your hate. Facts are facts, they cannot be twisted because when you twist them they no longer become facts, they are just lies that you use to rationalize hatred.
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For the most parts, I agree.

"Many people today will try to interpret some passages as promoting slavery just to condemn the Bible"

I don’t think they’re condemning the Bible. So much that people are a bit selective in their scripture out of pure convenience if not compete hypocrisy.

In short, the Bible isn’t wrong.

The people who defend their blasphemous actions with it are wrong.

"You can hate the Bible"

I don’t.

"you can hate Christians and Jews"

I don’t.

"you cannot twist the facts to rationalize your hate."

I don’t, but people do that every day. In fact, I may be talking to such person but hopefully, I’m wrong.

"Facts are facts, they cannot be twisted"

I wish that were true. Yet, people still believe Trump won the 2020 election.

"when you twist them they no longer become facts"

True.

“They are just lies that you use to rationalize hatred.”

Agreed.
0 ups, 1mo,
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I agree with that who comment except for one point.

"I wish that were true. Yet, people still believe Trump won the 2020 election."

There is just far too much evidence out there. When you actually spend time looking at it, the fact is that the election was rigged. However, I will say this. While the evidence clearly points to massive election fraud it does not say that Trump won the election. For that you would have to use logic.

Despite the fact that, mostly, Democrats has decimated the economy under COVID, prior to the release of the virus, Trump's economy was excellent. Especially when compared to Obama's dismal economy.

This would make Trump the first president in our history who got voted out of office when the economy was great. Just as Obama is the first president to get reelected when the economy was bad.

Biden was an idiot before he was senile. No one liked him. He was a racist and had a bad temper. He called people that asked him questions he didn't understand names like, "dog face pony soldier".

There is just no way that a man like Biden who had clearly gone senile could have ever been elected president. Bernie Sanders was vastly more popular but somehow, mysteriously, Sanders didn't win the 2020 primaries.

However, the media, since the 2016 primaries has been on a non-stop Hate Trump campaign. It would be one thing if they were explaining what was wrong with Trump's policies but instead they were fabricating nonsense. Like the Russia-Collusion and J6 Insurrection. And everything else.

They have unleashed more hatred in the Democrats than I have ever seen before. I am just shocked that the random psycho Dems haven't tried to take him out earlier. I guess they prefer gun-free zoned schools and movie theaters.

That is the only thing that could get Dems to ignore what Biden stood for and cast their vote only to keep Trump out of office. That is a dangerous game because Dems will usually just not vote.

The fact that Biden got more votes than Obama, when Obama was clearly far more popular between two. No one ever showed up at Biden rallies, while Trump was filling up venues across the country when he held rallies. And if Biden truly got such a vast number of votes then Trump could not have possibly got the second highest number of votes in history. There just aren't that many people who vote.

And that is why I think Trump actually won in a massive landslide. Biden could have only gotten 10% of what the claimed he got.
0 ups, 1mo
“When you actually spend time looking at it, the fact is that the election was rigged.”

I will admit, I stopped reading your comment after this.

When I heard that Biden had beat Trump, I admit I was ecstatic. It was an odd feeling, granted. Voting for a Democrat and being happy they won.

A sour victory further soured by doubt that the election was legitimate. I have Trump the benefit of the doubt. First when he won in 2016, and then when he lost in 2020.

I looked at all the evidence and came to a much different conclusion that was reasonable and logical.

Donald Trump and his supporters are full of shit.

If you can’t see that, then I have other people I’d rather have an intelligent discussion with than waste my time on someone who doesn’t know how logic, reason, and facts work.

There is simply no way I can have a good faith and intelligent discussion with people who believe the sugar-coated manure that pours out of Donald Trump’s mouth.

I pray you do find someone with the patience to one day steer you on the right path. Sincerely, I do.

I will pray for you.

I pity you.
1 up, 1mo,
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There are only two plausible explanations for your meme.

You either personally know each of these individuals & their children and who they've voted for the last 55 years or you're full of shit..

I'd bet my bottom dollar on the latter explanation.
2 ups, 1mo
I know all of them. Personally.
3 ups, 1mo,
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Yet… Trump’s favorite President he wants to model himself after is Andrew Jackson, a Democrat. Responsible for the Trail of Tears.

He wants to use the Alien Enemies Act, which was used for the Japanese Internment Camps.

Trump wants to eliminate the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments.

It almost sounds like he is a Democrat… but running as a Republican.

Odd, isn’t it?
1 up, 1mo,
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More made up bull shit.

Odd, isn't it?
1 up, 1mo,
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Wow.

You guys are gonna be so pissed off November 6th.
1 up, 1mo,
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Yea, I guess you're right.
We won't have Pedo Joe or the cackling hyena Harris to laugh at or to supply a never ending source for hysterical memes any longer...
2 ups, 1mo,
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Yeah, that’ll be your biggest concern. Sure.

Get use to this meme…

1 up, 1mo,
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This meme will be etched in your memory when crying into your coffee on November 6th.
1 up, 1mo,
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well he won’t be my president
0 ups, 1mo,
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I haven't seen Democrats this mad since we freed their slaves.
0 ups, 1mo
I've never seen a happy Republican.

They're either pissed off that their Presidential Candidate lost...

Or pissed off at people for not liking the President they voted for...

AND even they eventually become pissed off at the President they've voted for... when they leave office to a Democrat.

Trump will have his day... he'll be just be as reviled as W. Bush is to current Republicans. If not moreso.

Whether that takes 4-8 years of a recession free economy OR... a recession ending Republican with their bailouts.

It's only a matter of time.

Because Republican's economic policies don't work.
0 ups, 3w
You didn't free any slaves of the Democrats.
0 ups, 2w
1 up, 1mo,
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Trump has never won the popular vote.

And the electoral vote not reflecting the popular vote has happened 1 out of 12 times.

I like my chances.
1 up, 2w
I guess your "chances" shit the bed. Roflmaoooooooooooo
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These times are different. The fear is building. voters are expressing a fear of the failing economy, fear of crime, fear of out-of-control illegal immigration and fear of a world on fire. “Fear” is now the dominant emotion.

Speaking of immigration, we have this bit of insulting double-speak from Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell blaming the massive influx of illegal immigrants for the rising unemployment rate. Said Powell: “If you’re having millions of people come into the labor force, then — and you’re creating 100,000 jobs — you’re going to see unemployment go up.”

I’ve got news for Chairman Powell: The tens of millions of “scared” voters are more than smart enough to realize those “millions of people” coming into the labor force did not let themselves into our nation. These working-class American citizens know those illegal immigrants were released into the country by the Biden-Harris administration.

Fear is real. Fear does motivate. Working-class Americans do fear that elite-enabling liberal policies beyond their control are robbing them of their quality of life now and well into their futures.

But many of these Americans have also realized that there is one way to combat that fear and regain some of that control by voting.

I predict that there is a reckoning coming in November from those tens of millions of scared voters. And I suspect that reckoning is going to produce a landslide victory for Trump.

Yep. Your chances are slim and nil..
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An interesting aspect of fear relative to the decision-making process is that it revs up the limbic system causing people to make really poor choices.

In light of that knowledge, consider the fact Trump's whole campaign model is built on instilling, exacerbating fear in anyone who makes the mistake of listening to his words rather than looking to data. The beneficial consequence for those employing such tactic? If one lies, those hearing the lie won't question it, won't engage their higher brain functions because they can't due to the limbic system's ability to shut down rational, analytical thought in favor of fight or flight. Subsequently, once a target is suitably terrorized, one may tell pretty much any lie and, regardless of its absurdity (pet-eating, prisoners being sent to the U.S., every job created in the last two years has been taken by illegal immigrants, etc.) it will be accepted.
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The Democratic Party has shifted too far left for the population as a whole.

This is exemplified in the highly flawed open borders policy of Joe Biden, for which Kamala Harris shares part of the blame.

The Far Left seems to deny what should be obvious. The US has finite resources, including finite housing and finite medical care. We can't just build new housing overnight. We can't instantly train new doctors to provide expanded medical care.

But illegal immigration of millions of poor places strains on these limited resources. The result is homeless encampments in major cities and crowded ER's where immigrants often get medical care.

Mayor Eric Adams tried to criticize these high levels indirectly be complaining about the consequences in NY City. The result has been a campaign to discredit him, since he varies from the "liberal narrative."

But Americans are smart enough to see that unlimited illegal immigration means shortages for America's own poor. This makes no sense, particularly since poverty in the third world is largely due to overpopulation and cannot be "solved" through immigration to the US, which is too small to provide the needed scale of resources.

It is this fundamental defect in liberalism, which comes down to a failure to examine the "limits to growth" inherent on living in a country with finite resources.

The mass majority has come to the same conclusion and will have no choice but to vote Trump in November.
1 up, 1mo
Okay. If you're done trying to change the subject, shall we return to discussion of the topic of fear you put on the table?
0 ups, 1mo
"Mayor Eric Adams tried to criticize these high levels indirectly be complaining about the consequences in NY City. The result has been a campaign to discredit him, since he varies from the "liberal narrative." "

Mayor Adams - the best mayor of Venezuelans ever had - has bent over beyond backwards trying to accommodate them and the rest of the illegals. That's all he did for a couple years. I'm actually shocked he threatened to sue bus companies for transporting them here. If there's a campaign to discredit him, I've yet to hear it. And I live here.
2 ups, 1mo,
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Fear is a powerful tool for fear-mongers.

Objectively speaking, the fear isn’t based on fact.

Every reasonable person knows that Democratic policies played no role in the global inflation.

Covid did.

Every reasonable person knows that there is an immigration crisis and that mass deportation, more restrictions on immigration admission, and wasteful spending on walls are not reasonable solutions.

Nor is deporting immigrants simply because neither of their parents were born here.

Every reasonable person knows that raising taxes on elite has substantial economic benefits than cutting them.

Fear is useless against reasonable people.

The real question is… what are you afraid of?
1 up, 1mo,
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The Democratic Party has lost its way entirely. They mostly speak to the college educated, the urban and affluent, in their language. Their tone is condescending and paternalistic. They peddle giveaways to the college-educated like student loan forgiveness plans that disproportionately help their base, snubbing the majority of the country without a four-year degree, and then offer no tangible plans for true reform.
Well, guess what? The “majority of the country” is not stupid. In fact, to survive as a working-class and disenfranchised voter, you actually have to be quite smart. Tens of millions of these Americans not only do understand the political games being played but realize that it is they who are paying the highest price.

The “canary in the coal mine” is the International Brotherhood of Teamsters non-endorsement endorsement of Donald Trump. For the first time in over 20 years, the Teamsters did not endorse the Democratic candidate. Instead, their leadership chose to endorse no one.

Why? Because that leadership was shocked to find that almost 60 percent of its rank-and-file membership — those would be fearful working-class Americans — have indicated they are going to vote for Trump over Harris. What is noteworthy here is that when Biden was still in the race, Trump was actually trailing him, 44 percent to 36 percent. As with the 2020 Democratic presidential primary, the more Americans see of Harris, the less they like her or trust her.

MAGA Landslide 2024 - Learn To Love It
1 up, 1mo
The one thing that will determine this election is policy.

You’re right. The American People are smart. The college educated know his economic policies are disastrous.

And so do the backbone of our great economy.

Our farmers.

They struggled under Trump. They relied more on government assistance than they did under Trump.

And while many, maybe even the majority of the farmers were willing to continue to vote for Trump. Just enough of them did not.

And sure, they may have regained their independence. And sure maybe Biden didn’t continue to hold them hand long enough as the economy began to significantly recover.

And maybe they really do think they were better off four or five years ago…

But I’m willing to bet that just enough of them know, that what he’s proposing for migrants, and even legal immigrants, and those chaotic misfires of tariffs…

They know… while maybe Harris isn’t their preferred choice, they are certainly not too keen on a second term for Trump.

Harris and Democrats aren’t just relying on students and people struggling on minimum wage. They have Economists, Scientists, Doctors, Teachers, Homeowners, Small and New Business Owners, Disaster Relief Victims… riding on them. You’re right. The middle-class will determine this election.

But who do you really think they support?
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I once thought as you do. That Biden was sure to win the election IF Trump was the Republican candidate. I also kept saying ANY Republican Candidate would likely win over Biden. Making the results a forgone conclusion.

When Biden dropped out, and the publicity surrounding the first assassination attempt, I had resigned that Trump would indeed be our next President.

However, I did not consider whether any Democrat could win against Trump.

Then I thought on it some more.

While true, by votes, Trump has overshadowed both Hillary and Obama in the past, there is one distinct criticism that was true of the 2016 AND 2020 race that I did not consider for the 2024 race.

In a way, Biden NEVER actually beat Trump. While Biden did win the most votes, and the electorate unlike his Democratic predecessor; Trump actually lost to himself. People weren’t voting for Biden FOR Biden. They were voting AGAINST Trump.

We’d seen it before. Arguably what happened to Trump is the same issue that happened to Hillary in 2016. People were largely voting AGAINST Hillary. Liberals and conservatives alike.

While there has been likely voter remorse for Biden and Trump, Trump’s biggest advantages have largely diminished with each return to the election cycle.

Trump is no longer the underdog.

Trump no longer a candidate worth giving the benefit of the doubt.

Trump is no longer a wild card.

And worst of all, Trump has revealed that he is willing to illegally usurp or challenge any election he loses without a single shred of provable evidence.

And normally, I would conclude that Trump was the surefire winner of this election were it not for…

1. The Bogus Election Fraud claims
2. The bullying of governors and his Vice President that culminated to Jan 6th to overturn the election.

And 3…

3 is the biggest reason Trump will lose in 2024. Just as he did in 2020.

Trump, and Republicans in general, are favored by the rural areas of our country. Short on population but strong on electoral swinging power. With it, Republicans have every chance to win no matter how much the majority votes against them or genuinely for Democrats.

And it is THIS precise reason Trump lost in 2020.

Not because of Covid, or the Economic Crisis due to the Global Crash… not because of his impeachment or Russia.

Trump shot himself in the foot with both his Presidency and his current campaign.

3. The Tariffs.
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