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The only real defense is self defense... | Israel had the 8th most powerful military in the world in 2022; All men are required to serve 2 years in the Israeli Defense Forces, yet citizens are prohibited from possessing firearms; Imagine how the outcome of the execution of over 650 Israeli citizens in one day would have been changed if Israelis were armed; Think our 2nd Amendment isn't important? | image tagged in plain black template | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
1,069 views 62 upvotes Made by sevenheart 1 year ago in politics
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16 ups, 1y
The same could have been said for the disarmed Jews in the 1940s.
14 ups, 1y,
2 replies
Just wait until all of these military-age illegals streaming over our borders start attacking...
14 ups, 1y,
2 replies
The number of military age men illegally in this country is larger than the combined armies of the world’s five largest armies.

The number of illegals is greater than the world’s ten largest armies combined.
7 ups, 1y,
1 reply
Yikes!
8 ups, 1y,
1 reply
And they say it’s not an invasion. Suppose Mexico declares war on USA, then what?
6 ups, 1y
They have 10 million people to become cannon fodder in the US right now, all they have to do is tell them we are taking away their free food and coming to kill them and it is pure anarchy.
3 ups, 1y,
1 reply
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3 ups, 1y
No doubt.
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12 ups, 1y
They already have.
11 ups, 1y
Upvoted. Well said.
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9 ups, 1y
6 ups, 1y
FAX
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5 ups, 1y,
1 reply
To be fair, Israel’s intelligence agency really had no f**king clue this was gonna happen, Israel really messed up on this one
3 ups, 1y,
2 replies
They are trying to figure that one out. Even the terrorists were surprised by the lack of response. One said they walked for 2 hours taking hostages back to the Gaza strip without a shot fired at them. They ran amok for 5 hours before an IDF response. With the first rockets, the IDF turned toward Lebanon and the north, always assuming rocket barrages in the south would be a diversion for an attack from the north. Major intelligence failure. The initial attack destroyed forward positions almost instantly so there was no one alive reporting the breach.
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3 ups, 1y
Yeah, this was a colossal failure for Israel’s intelligence agency
1 up, 1y,
1 reply
I would say, it is both Israel’s fault, but also Bidens because he practically funded it.
0 ups, 1y
Tons of blame to go around for sure. The most important thing now is shut down the international criticism that will come regarding Israel's intensive response. They have tried appeasement, they have given away land that makes it impossible to defend their citizens in situations like this, they have negotiated and tried to bargain in good faith with terrorists and terrorist nations. Now the only choice they have is to absolutely destroy everyone and everything used that are a danger to the nation of Israel to create an ultimate incentive for deterrence.
2 ups, 1y,
5 replies
Gun rights is a double edged sword. I deeply support the Second Amendment but like, we can't let guns fall in the wrong hands.
8 ups, 1y
That's why we have law, justice, and punishment.
8 ups, 1y,
1 reply
That’s why that right is for citizens not aliens.
4 ups, 1y,
1 reply
Regulating personal liberties? You are truly confused. The party that wants to tell
You what size soda you can buy and tell
You what car you’re allowed to drive. It’s not republicans.

Move goalposts? Be specific, legal aliens and illegal aliens are easily defined.
1 up, 1y,
1 reply
So you ignore the direct control by democrats of education materials and course of studies from elementary through Universities. The blatant focus on political indoctrination over education. As to attacking policies that you originated, when they are twisted into some grotesque form you have no choice but to oppose them.

The difference between the left and right is there isn’t any. Uniparty stooges looking to get rich off the graft and corruption. Both extremes of their party are failed ideologies, but the democrap party specifically hates America. So my independent vote is against them.
0 ups, 1y
No single party controls education materials. Those are different standards set by the state through the entire legislation.

The line between Indoctrination and Education has always been rather blurry. It depends entirely on the intent and content.

Omission and censorship of facts in education is just as, if not more so, destructive than introducing subjects deemed by a singular focus group minority as taboo or unfair.

Opposing things for the sake of opposing things is destructive and history will never side with you on blind opposition. Standing for something is much more constructive and likely to be viewed less harshly by history.

There are huge differences in Republican and Democratic parties now. And, to be fair, there are far more partisan politicians on both sides which make it difficult for some people to consider the candidate without considering their party, that I can at least understand. But blindly voting for a person based simply on which party they belong is just complete and utter stupidity and ignorance and only fuels the self-fulfilling prophecy or ongoing problem of the so-called uni-party on the voter’s end.

The side that continues to defend confederate ideals, and has continued to push post-proconfederate policies is rapidly apparent to be the current Republican Party rather than the Democrat Party.

Pushing for confederate ideals and then painting some starts and stripes over it, doesn’t mean they love America.

And the left calling out the shallow patriotism on the right doesn’t mean they hate America.

Hating or loving America or a specific party is a perception, not rooted in facts but based on feelings. If that is your conclusion to the perceptions of their actions, and that is enough to ignore policies or individual candidates, then you’re allowing your emotions to determine your political leanings and opens you up to the same vulnerability of nothing being done just so entertaining characters can be elected to office.

My point is…

If you ignore the policies of the individual elected officials you’re voting in, then complain that they don’t work, don’t do anything, or that their ideologies must be failed, then you’re neglectfully choosing to blame your ignorance on others.

Which is detrimental to the conservative foundation of personal responsibility.
7 ups, 1y
All it irakes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing. (Or be empty handed)
6 ups, 1y
Beware of who determines which are the "right" hands. White Christians are called domestic terrorists by this administration.
6 ups, 1y
That’s why we have federal background checks, CCWs, licenses, and laws for self defense.
0 ups, 1y,
2 replies
Yes, I still don't think it's important. I still believe that we can have peace without always dropping to using even more guns to resolve the problem.
0 ups, 1y,
1 reply
Good luck with that one. History doesn't show any promise for your belief. Communist tyrants killed over 100 million innocent people in the 20th century alone.
0 ups, 1y,
1 reply
That's just because the endless cycle of murder keeps recurring. You kill my father, I kill you, your children kill me, my children kills your children and so on. Don't you see? It has never gone away ONCE in all the entire human history. It is always somewhere, that deep feeling for revenge. We have to break it in order to change a new way of life
0 ups, 1y,
1 reply
Generally the way it breaks, is the perpetrator of genocide wins. Consider the successful implementation of deterence. Not always easy, not always tidy, but there are numerous cases where it succeeded. Example? Japan murdered Chinese (Rape of Nanking- used Chinese babies for bayonette practice) murdered Koreans. Got the living snot beat out of them and they haven't caused any problems since. Germans perhaps? Start 2 world wars, bombed into submission and they have started how many wars since? Not so long ago we had a policy of nuclear deterence, mutually assured destruction. Any nuclear wars since? Evil people and nations are only successfully brought around by the overwhelming use of force. Come on, history and logic can work together.
0 ups, 1y,
1 reply
Yes, of course, your points are all very valid. But the question is how long will it work? How long can we continue to threaten with nuclear weapons and sanctions and invasions before a country decides to test the waters? Russia decided to take a chance after years of sucking the fact that Ukraine was independent and joining NATO. Hamas got tired of exchanging a few bullets and rockets with Israel and decided to attack. When will a country decide to take a chance with nuclear weapons? When will a country decide it has a chance to change the world order? I won't deny that it is perhaps the only thing that has kept us alive until now, but i feel that in order to progress as a HUMAN SPECIES as a whole, we have to change our old ways of mistrust and differences and fighting into something new. I'm sure you've seen sci-fi movies before. Take Star Trek as an example. We can only progress into new frontiers as a unified species. How can we progress to the next level if some of us can't even look at each other without seeing a mask of deceit, always second guessing the other party's motives?
0 ups, 1y
Dude, we have in our arsenal a single bomb that will kill everything on earth no matter where it is detonated. Platitudes won't save anyone. Your "new world order" is already being implemented by the non-governmental World Economic Forum, a bunch of elites in colusion with the UN who have a stated goal of reducing world population to a "sustainable" 500 million. The cure for "climate change" is to "reduce population" to 500 million. See a pattern here? Don't be duped. The great reset is coming. They are publicly telling us so.
0 ups, 1y,
1 reply
A man comes to attack you with a pipe. How do you respond? Give him a timeout in the corner? If you could throw rocks at him from a distance to keep him from clubbing your family to death, would you throw rocks? Of course, every good self defense trainer will tell you, do what you have to do to safely escape the situation rather than escalate. But you make a mistake and find yourself in a dead end alley and he continues to pursue you. Do you pick up a piece of lumber to defend your family, or do you still believe you can have peace without resorting to more clubs to resolve the problem? Golly kids, sorry but if we are going to have peace I can't drop to using a means of self defense in repsonse to this attack. It was real and it was fun, but it wasn't real fun.
0 ups, 1y,
1 reply
Of course I would do what I can to defend my family. I can't call myself a human being if I could say no. But after he gets arrested, or sent into hospital because of the injuries I inflicted, I would make sure he gets a fair trial, and rehabilitation. Ask him why he did it. Find out his motives. See what I can do to make sure it dosen't happen again. Now imagine if he and me were countries. A possible motive might be because fundamentally, our beliefs are different and he believes that I might attack him, so he goes on the preemptive offense. But I can make peace with him by extending the hand of goodwill, to show that I mean peace and I am willing to share resources, supplies and help him in need. To stop any attack, all you have to do it take away the will and the reasons for it. Whether it's a man coming at you with a pipe or it's a global superpower coming at you with hell's arsenal, the principles are the same.
0 ups, 1y,
1 reply
Nice dodge. Kill him with kindness. Works every time.
0 ups, 1y,
1 reply
You're not much of an idealist, are you?
0 ups, 1y,
1 reply
You are correct, I am not an idealist at all. 100% pure realist, thanks for noticing.
0 ups, 1y,
1 reply
I believe the actual term is "Pragmatist". The term "Real" is subjective
0 ups, 1y
Whatever.
8 ups, 1y
But you can shoot an intruder down with a gun. That’s what they are doing as well. They go into houses and kill every civilian inside. Not just the rockets.
6 ups, 1y
I wish I could post the video of Hamas assholes outside a house breaking in, taken by a neighbor who could have picked them off instead of watching them execute their neighbors children. Get a life.
4 ups, 1y
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