Liberals are so enamored with brainwashing, I guess finger painting and making funny hats in kindergarten is out?

They want their personal torment inflicted on others. So ya typical alphabet mafia

That was pretty unhinged comment from Stacy, there. Jeez 😬

My in-laws live in a blue state, and their kid and her friends are perfectly happy, healthy and normal. I think you might be making mountains out of molehills here.

I live in a red state. I am hearing that kids in school today are so confused about their identity.

I heard from one guy I ride the train to work with that there's a kid in his college who changes his name and his gender about every other month or so. He gets angry if you don't read his mind to know his new name and gender. The names he picks are not normal names.

My friend thinks this guy is insane.

I am hearing this about high school kids in my city as well.

This isn't a mountain or a molehill, this is insanity. These kids won't be able to fit in the real world.

So...you know a guy who knows a guy who has a kid.

And what that guy said about a guy who knows a guy who has a kid is...factual?

How do you know?

Because I grew up in rural Illinois in the 80s. There was a lot of "those kids are satanists because they play D&D."

Like a lot of it.

Do you know how many were actually Satanists? 0.

Just because you know a guy who knows a guy who has a kid with all kinds of weird habits, doesn't mean that the guy actually has a kid with weird habits.

"So...you know a guy who knows a guy who has a kid.
And what that guy said about a guy who knows a guy who has a kid is...factual?"

Either I didn't express myself correctly or you misunderstood what I said. I ride the train to work with a guy who is in college. His college is right around the corner from where I work. He goes to school with a guy who changes his name and gender all of the time. He knows this guy directly, not through someone else.

The guy I ride the train with seems like a decent guy. I don't think he would be lying about this. He expressed frustration because the guy he told me about, verbally attacked him for not knowing his new gender and name. The guy I ride the train with said that there are others like this guy in his college.

People like this have to exist somewhere. I keep hearing about them.

I attended an online Microsoft Conference last year and one of the speakers was clearly a dude in woman's clothing. He introduced himself by telling us his pronouns and what he was wearing. I thought, what do I care. I will never ever meet this guy, so why do I need to know his pronouns? I could clearly see what he was wearing and why did I need to know that? None of the other speakers did anything like that.

Right after that I saw some TV talk show where one of the women on the show (she was clearly a woman) also had to tell us her pronouns (she/her) and what she was wearing. Again, if I am not meeting this person in person, then why do I need to know their pronouns. And why wouldn't I call a woman she/her? That is what mankind has been calling each other since the beginning.

I'm not going to play make believe with anyone. There are only 2 genders and that is a scientific fact that the entire world has always known since the beginning of mankind. But now liberals want us to all to live in this fantasy world by force. I won't do it. I live in the real world.

The reason why we started talking is because he is going to school to learn to get a degree in the same profession that I have been doing for several years.

"Because I grew up in rural Illinois in the 80s. There was a lot of 'those kids are satanists because they play D&D.'"

What does D&D have to do with anything? It is just a role playing game for nerds. I even went to church with people who played D&D. They were just as Christian as everyone else.

What does the DnD story have to do with anything? It's a point that people say a lot of shit they're convinced is true that isn't true in the slightest.

You know a guy who knows a guy. That's what you know to be true. Anything that dude on the train tells you is suspect and until you can verify it, baseless rumor. You don't know if its even real.

Same thing about "hearing about high schools" that's nothing but nonsense. Those people who are telling you these things also probably believe their putting litter boxes on the bathrooms for "kids who identify as furries."

And that's the point of the DND story. People will say a lot of things, and usually it's hysterical nonsense they've made up in their own heads.

People tell you their preferred pronouns ahead of time to help you. Just like how a speaker tells you their name ahead of time. That way you be a decent human and have some respect for people.

Gender is a social construct composed of performative actions & gestures. Here's a great book to read about it: https://www.amazon.com/Doing-Gender-Difference-Inequality-Institutional/dp/0415931797

And if you're "I meant their 2 biological sexes!" you're also well behind the science. Here's some science for you: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/sex-redefined-the-idea-of-2-sexes-is-overly-simplistic1/

I never thought the D&D was anything other that a game for nerds. You're comment has nothing to do with me, however, you felt the need to blame me for stuff other people say. That is malicious.

My friend I ride the train with was speaking the truth. Just because it messes with your worldview does not mean it's false or suspicious. There are lots of people who have done far stranger things and will always be people who do bizarre stuff. We are living in a society, created and promoted by the left, that encourages bizarre behavior.

Does the guy's behavior at the college my friend attends mean everyone who has a gender identity problem acts that way? No. Just like how people you dislike don't all think D&D is Satanic.

The problem you have and you think I have is you think very monolithic. Everyone who agrees with you is good and everyone who you dislike you assume all think and act the same.

What you need to realize is that we are not a collective, we are individuals. Regardless how much the left wants to put us into collectives by creating these fantasies about more than two genders.

When you invent myths you must be ready for how people will act with that myth. You cannot come up with terms like gender fluidity and then deny it when someone acts fluid.

Posting an article written by those who agree with the fantasy is not going to change reality.

I live in the real world. It's very sad that the left is now promoting a false fantasy. An insanity that causes people to focus their entire lives in their genitalia. This is sad because there is so much more to life than your genitals.

You live in the real world?

Really?

You accept verbatim a story from some dude on the train. You don't question it. You accept it as a rock solid fundamental truth of the world.

With 0 evidence.

You claim that "we're not a collective, we're individuals" then immediately shove everyone into 2 monolithic groups.

I'm not denying that gender is fluid. That's you, sport.

Go back and re-read what you wrote. You said there's only 2 genders. And that it's a science thing.

I provided you science that says there's more than 2. And gender is a social construct.

You don't live in the real world. You live in a fantasy land where you get mad when people expect you to treat them with respect and remember their names & pronouns.

You must be real fun to be around, with your constant questioning of everything any one tells you.

Read what I said. Those monolithic groups are YOUR groups. That is your world. The very small handful of people who agree with you and the other group is everyone you hate. I'll bet you call people like me nazis or fascists.

People are born with DNA that is in an XX or XY pattern. This determines if you are born with a p**is or a va**na. Those are the only 2 genders. That is science and that is the real world.

People who believe there are more than 2 genders either have mental problems or they have been deluded by the left.

Leftist delusion created the notion that gender is a social construct. It is not. Gender is a biological construct. You're either male or female. This is very important because this is how we continue the human population. None of the 6 gazillion fantasy genders do anything to continue the human race.

Having surgery to change genders does nothing to continue the human race.

I watched a Sci Fi show recently were people were leaving the earth to repopulate the race on another planet. They had a gay character on the show. My thought was why did they send him. He's not going to contribute anything to the continuance of the human race. He's just taking up valuable resources.

But that's the state of or entertainment industry, there must be at least 1 gay person on every show, even though A) there's just not nearly as many gay people in real life as are portrayed in TV and movies and B) even if it means absolutely nothing to the plot of the story shows must go out of their way to indicate so-in-so is gay.

And now I'll most likely get punished by ImgFlip for speaking the truth...AGAIN. BTW, ImgFlip mods, I am not disparaging gay people. Carefully read what I said. I don't hate gays and nothing I said indicates that I hate gays. I don't even hate the people who want to make believe they are some new made up gender that never existed before. I'm just speaking the truth.

But speaking the truth, these days, gets you beat up by all the social media outlets.

i could probably make an essay about this thread

Your Tag = bad ass anime TriGun is a classic.

explain this to me, i am not from the US and i don't understand

The debate is whether school is for indoctrination in liberal ideology or education

explain it to me like i'm an infant

. . .if I were to treat a full grown adult as an infant then the first thing I'd do is put them over my knee and spank them for being a spoiled brat.

what is with these people in the comments, whenever i ask a question they give me some amalgamation of words and phrases, just answer the question i ask in a dialect that isn't gibberish

Infants don’t grasp complex issues well. I’m not Kamala Harris.

why do americans take politics so seriously

We value our freedoms

It's all just culture war bullshit. Nothing you need to be concerned about.

me neither. I think it's the seemingly endless cold-war-like debate between republicans and democrats.

The debate is whether school is for indoctrination in liberal ideology or education. In America many believe school should educate not teach ideology.

ok.................... I think the schools should just educate. that's what schools are for.

We agree. Especially elementary. University may be a place to explore ideology but not K-12. Produce literate people with ability to read, write and calculate. We are not doing that consistently so there isn’t a lot of room for any other focus.

yea.

If kids are keeping secrets from their parents about their gender or sexuality, it's likely because they pose more of a threat to their children's safety than their teachers or peers. Nobody is forcing your kid to be gay, you're the one forcing them to be straight.

Wow, now this is what Fascist propaganda looks like.

What do you think people are teaching? it’s the same everywhere. It’s all the stuff with finger painting and stuff. We aren’t forcing anyone to be something they aren’t.

90% of right wing ideology is making up a scenario in your head and then getting really triggered about it.