Change My Mind

1,481 views • 63 upvotes • Made by NOTMEMEGURU 2 years ago in politics
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ToneDef
8 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Modda
3 ups, 2y
AmericanViking
8 ups, 2y, 2 replies
FACT
wblogan
4 ups, 2y
Can I quote you?
a35mmlife
7 ups, 2y, 3 replies
actually its not a fact. the fact is more REPUBLICANS have been found guilty of voter fraud than democrats... but hey, if you write the word FACT than it must be a fact right!? 



...and it's intentional. 



https://www.economist.com/united-states/2023/03/09/three-republican-states-pull-out-of-voter-fraud-prevention-scheme
RightWired
8 ups, 2y, 6 replies
The Heritage Foundation’s Election Fraud Database now has 1,302 cases of proven democrat election fraud from across the United States 



https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud/search
Gumshoe
7 ups, 2y, 1 reply
https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud/search?combine=&state=All&year=2020&case_type=All&fraud_type=All&page=1



Funny, I only count 18 for 2020.



Nor does heritage reveal whom these people voted for.



I guess by your logic if there can be 18 counts of voter fraud in 2020 then there must be at least  7 million counts as well.



Sounds unlikely to me, tho.



Yeah, voter fraud can happen but not at the magnitude you’re claiming that it can successfully tip a presidential election.
ToneDef
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
well, if you look at electoral maps from the 2020 election by county, you can see that it doesn't have to be a large scale fraud.  There's actually just 5 key counties that would need to be fixed to effect the outcome of 5 key states.  It's certainly plausible, but of course, it would take an enormous concerted effort.
Gumshoe
1 up, 2y
Or you know, they just thought Trump was an incompetent fraud.  An easy assumption to make even when the media wasn’t blasting that narrative 24/7 for four years.  Especially during a global crisis.
TheFree-man
0 ups, 2y
SIR. did you really forget Nixon???
a35mmlife
3 ups, 2y
The heritage foundation is trash.
wblogan
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Heritage Foundation is a far right wing goon squad.
Gumshoe
1 up, 2y, 1 reply
While the Heritage Foundation has shifted more towards the far-right agenda, it didn’t start out that way, nor does the website linked appear to be geared toward the usual far-right influence. The site linked inadvertently proves that there is no massive fraud and to deliberately ignore that fact is detrimental to your overall argument rather than serving to validate it.



You can’t argue against just the source to invalidate an argument.   



That is a not a wining strategy but one based on fallacy like most maga republicans rely on.



And as you can see from just the political climate, it is one that cannot be employed successfully beyond short term cheap shot political points.
wblogan
1 up, 2y, 1 reply
Just out here returning fire bro. It's a fantasy to expect to convert any of these maggats by force of reason.  Nazi conversion therapy has not been shown to be effective. I'm old, I need some comic relief so that I am not tempted to break something.
Gumshoe
1 up, 2y, 1 reply
I’m young.



I can’t afford to break anything.
wblogan
1 up, 2y
I used to be young too. I wish you well, it's a fraught trail you are on. Don't let the bastards wear you down.
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BedfordGuy
3 ups, 2y
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a35mmlife
5 ups, 2y, 1 reply
BufordUlyssesMuckenstern
6 ups, 2y, 1 reply
a35mmlife
5 ups, 2y, 1 reply
dont believe it. must not be true.
a35mmlife
5 ups, 2y
im gonna guess that you didnt go to the link huh?
AmericanViking
7 ups, 2y, 4 replies
Actually, it was science that proved it... so...
NOTMEMEGURU
3 ups, 2y
They don't believe in science. They believe whatever bullshit someone makes up to make them look like they are right.
wblogan
3 ups, 2y
BedfordGuy
4 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Yeah, crap TrumpTard science....
AmericanViking
3 ups, 2y, 4 replies
Yes... the same science used to go after Jan 6 peaceful protesters...
TheFree-man
3 ups, 2y
ok.. peaceful? allright, so you say breaking into a government building, and assaulting guards is "peaceful". please, be rational.
Octavia_Melody
5 ups, 2y
No science, just their faces on camera kicking and punching cops
BedfordGuy
4 ups, 2y
Nonsense.  The insurrectionists deserved what they got.
wblogan
2 ups, 2y
TheFree-man
1 up, 2y, 1 reply
hey, remember nixon?
wblogan
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Short guy, sweaty upper lip?
TheFree-man
1 up, 2y
somehow winned a election due to the electoral college in almost all 50 states. yet i love for the fact that for all of american history, we were divided based on what side to vote for. seems off to me atleast...
a35mmlife
4 ups, 2y, 1 reply
https://www.brennancenter.org/issues/ensure-every-american-can-vote/vote-suppression/myth-voter-fraud
AmericanViking
7 ups, 2y, 1 reply
LMAO... Bennan?  You do know he lied... and a lot??
wblogan
3 ups, 2y
The Orange Traitor is famous for telling a dozen lies before he clears his throat... that's a lot?!?
Gumshoe
5 ups, 2y
jdatesta
3 ups, 2y
TheFree-man
6 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Alright. You go take a look into the topics yourself. If anything, trump committed voter fraud. (Guess what, they found supporting info) please do some deeper research. Plus I am surprised trump even became pres because of his bad track record of r***
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3 ups, 2y, 2 replies
TheFree-man
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
it has? please continue. i want to understand where you are coming from. technically, I am not an idiot, neither are you. we both just have different points of view. btw, going to roasting people without giving a real argument is just making it look like you know your losing, just try to be upfront with your claims, with good evidence, or its just automatically untrustworthy. thanks, and please respond and tell me were you are coming from so i can try to understand, and tell you were i come from, so you can. that is how arguments are supposed to work, both sides learn something new.
TheFree-man
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
BTW, in the deleted comment i was called an idiot. just for context, and yes, i am waiting for a response still. why did he just nope out of this? what is so scary about hearing another's point of view??? i am confused...
Gumshoe
0 ups, 2y
I’ll explain.



Politics on IMGFlip isn’t about hearing other people’s point of view. It is only about validating them. If you fail to do so, you are childishly mocked by people who pretend to be lone wolves amongst sheep so well, that they’ve gone native to the flock rather than forming a functioning pack.
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BedfordGuy
3 ups, 2y
Austrogressive
1 up, 2y
So if you're saying that there is no Democrat Voter Fraud, then Climate Change is a hoax? Likely story. 👍
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TheFree-man
1 up, 2y, 3 replies
NOTMEMEGURU
3 ups, 2y, 2 replies
What else did your television tell you to say ?
TheFree-man
0 ups, 2y
sir. i do not take this info from a television. i prefer to go over and learn from actual studies, and take a look at the results, then proceed to check with other studies, compare a result average. but here, can you please tell me were you get your info from? i just want to know.
BedfordGuy
1 up, 2y, 2 replies
How much money did you donate to Trump's pockets?
Abby_Normal
3 ups, 2y
$0 myself, but my brother did buy me a sweet hat, made in the USA BTW.
NOTMEMEGURU
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
None. Who told you I was a Trump fan ? Why would you even bring Trump into this ? The meme says NOTHING about Trump. Get help for your TDS
BedfordGuy
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
You brought up "Democratic voter fraud", which Trump has been constantly whining about, despite the fact that it remains unproven.
NOTMEMEGURU
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
I said nothing about Trump. Your TDS is still controlling your life.
Gumshoe
0 ups, 2y, 3 replies
Trump was the first to accuse Democrats of massive voter fraud in 2016, 2017, 2020 and onwards.



The 2020 Stolen Election narrative is provable propaganda that dates back to a source.  



It is reasonable to conclude you are a trump supporter by default if you believe in Trump propaganda.
NOTMEMEGURU
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
"Trump was the first to accuse Democrats of massive voter fraud in 2016, 2017, 2020 and onwards."

REALLY ?!? Did you ask every single person on the planet if just maybe they said it because of things they saw BEFORE Trump said it ? Trump was NOT the first person to say ANYTHING.
Gumshoe
1 up, 2y
There is not a single shred of evidence of massive voter fraud beyond Trump’s opinion.  Next question
NOTMEMEGURU
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
That actually is not a reasonable assumption. The assumption would be that I see what I see with my own eyes, I hear what I hear with my own ears. I look at FACTS instead of listening to the opinions of others and use my my own free thinking to reach my own conclusion.

Imagine that ! There actually is such a thing as a person who does not look to someone else to tell them what they think. Probably an impossible concept for you to grasp.



Now imagine a world where millions of people were saying the same things that Trump said when he ran for president, BUT these millions of people were saying these things YEARS BEFORE Trump said them...........................................
Gumshoe
0 ups, 2y
“I look at FACTS instead of listening to the opinions of others and use my my own free thinking to reach my own conclusion.”



Your actions are in conflict with your words.



There is a major difference in saying the election is rigged versus massive voter fraud.



One is factual based on loads of factors including but not limited to: voter suppression, survey poll manipulation, the electoral college, PACs, and SuperPACs.



There hasn’t been a single shred of evidence that supports massive voter fraud anymore than anecdotal evidence akin to evidence that the Earth is flat.



Trump was right.  It was rigged for either a Democrat or a Republican to win.  Third party candidates are locked out financially, politically, and federally.  That doesn’t mean Trump couldn’t have won in either election or the next.  Unless he stupidly runs as an independent and people stupidly vote for him.



That’ll just guarantee the Democrats win again.  In the Presidential election, anyway.
NOTMEMEGURU
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
AND NO I AM NOT A TRUMP SUPPORTER. "The Father of the Vaccine" can kiss my ass.
Gumshoe
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
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Liar liar, pants on fire.
NOTMEMEGURU
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
You just want to date me. Sorry, I'm not interested.
Gumshoe
1 up, 2y
Abby_Normal
2 ups, 2y, 1 reply
Climate change may be happening but what is not certain is a) whether or not it is man-made and b) whether or not we can actually do anything to reverse it.
TheFree-man
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
yup. but we can atleast try. and doing so will save us alot of money in the long run, like switching to green energy. (Cheaper, and more efficient when setup)
Abby_Normal
0 ups, 2y, 1 reply
So you think that you know what's better for the earth than the earth does?
TheFree-man
0 ups, 2y
well... i have no clue if the earth is sentient or not. so far, all we can assume, based on our knowledge on life, and how it works, the earth is not sentient.
AmericanViking
3 ups, 2y
It's too bad the polar ice caps melted away ten years ago.



Oh ...... Wait ......
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THERE IS MORE EVIDENCE OF DEMOCRAT VOTER FRAUD; THAN; CLIMATE CHANGE