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Gaslighting, aka lying, is the mainstay of the liberal/progressive/Democrat

Gaslighting, aka lying, is the mainstay of the liberal/progressive/Democrat | He's right, you know. | image tagged in liar liar,democrat party,free speech,transparent,twitter | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
788 views 46 upvotes Made by DTuck 2 years ago in politics
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7 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Gee... I know a stream here that's like that... lefties just can't handle anything outside their bubble... LOL
0 ups, 2y
Real_Politics
Bans opposition from even commenting
1 up, 2y
Scream point 2 at the top of your lungs
2 ups, 2y
Wikipedia's Bias
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiRgJYMw6YA
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3 ups, 2y,
2 replies
Why is everyone so pissed off over this... It's a stupid social media app. Who f**king cares if he bought Twitter?
7 ups, 2y,
3 replies
The collective Left is intent on controlling free speech . . . just as their ideological predecessors did in the old Soviet Union. In contrast Conservatives are intent on preserving the Constitution. The Left currently controls one of the most important communications system in the nation. Now that comes to an end . . . and the Constitution and thus the nation . . . wins.
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2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Again. It's a stupid social media app. Get over it.
6 ups, 2y,
1 reply
You asked and I told you . . . basic stuff that ANY student of history and politics should easily comprehend. Sorry if it all went over your head.
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2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
But what does any of this have to do with Twitter?
5 ups, 2y,
1 reply
If you can ask that then either you are trolling or you literally have absolutely no business whatsoever discussing politics with anyone. So . . . bye!
4 ups, 2y
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3 ups, 2y
Musta struck a chord there. So that would be a yes.
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Are people actually pissed off over this?
6 ups, 2y,
3 replies
Reports are that Twitter employees are having hysterics over freedom of speech for conservatives being restarted at their company. So they are upset as that goes against their ideology.
6 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Suddenly their homogenized world was gone...
4 ups, 2y
Conflicting viewpoints NOT adhering to SJW WOKE Political Correctness would be allowed expressions. The horror!
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2 ups, 2y
Here's an idea. Just don't use Twitter instead of making it a huge deal.
3 ups, 2y,
1 reply
If their job is censorship or adding those Covid-19 warnings or whatever and they will be losing their job ya I imagine they would be pissed.
5 ups, 2y,
2 replies
There are some jobs that a person with integrity will not do . . . but there are always openings to support Fake News™ at many of the main "news" outlets. Maybe they could apply to work at CNN+?

Too soon?
4 ups, 2y
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Integrity seems to depend on a topic and what side you're on. Promoting "horse medication" as a Covid treatment (in lieu of the vaccines) would seem to be one relatively tame example.
3 ups, 2y,
1 reply
While I am sure it happened, I think most only wanted to try Ivermectin, especially given that many doctors around the world had prescribed it, and saw great success using it.

The issue was never truly about whether or not it was even effective- the issue was that our would-be masters deemed it beyond our reach to even give it a try, and overstepped their boundaries as our elected *servants*.

And then there is you. Intentionally calling it "horse medication" is either ignorant, or lying, given that it has specific human application, and comes in pill form vs. the paste typically used on horses. Even here we see the reach of the stifling of information, as it has made you either ignorant, or comfortable being ignorant.
2 ups, 2y,
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Yes. Here we see it. This is my point. Both of us (or I am assuming both of us) think we have integrity.

You noticed I put it in quotations, right? I'm quoting someone else (CNN) and I am aware there are human versions as well as various animal versions of ivermectin. There were many facets to this one.

I can't speak for anyone else but for me... That was the issue. It was not a proven treatment. But antivaxxers wanted to take it instead of the vaccine regardless and who knows how many died and continue to die because of it.

And while it is true that calling all versions of it "horse paste" or whatever is deceptive, it is also true that ivermectin has been shown in large scale double blind placebo controlled peer reviewed studies to not work against Covid... Time to thank our "would-be masters" for not promoting unproven sh*t? or just berate them for trying to steer people away from something which turned out to be snake oil? Idk
3 ups, 2y,
3 replies
"But antivaxxers wanted to take it instead of the vaccine regardless and who knows how many died and continue to die because of it."

You are aware that many people have had serious adverse reactions, including death, to these vaccines, right?

"it is also true that ivermectin has been shown in large scale double blind placebo controlled peer reviewed studies to not work against Covid"

Because they weren't already guilty of using deception to justify their actions? I will take the real-world examples of it working over your "pal reviewed" studies. Here we see it- people willing to believe anything so long as it supports their decisions.

"Time to thank our "would-be masters" for not promoting unproven sh*t? or just berate them for trying to steer people away from something which turned out to be snake oil?"

Not promoting something is entirely different from suppressing something. If anything, their odd actions and reactions to dissenting information only solidified many against what the "experts" were telling us. And given how ineffective these vaccines have proven to be, I am not sure that I am interested in your snake oil either. So yes, they deserve to be berated. Both Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin are essentially harmless, and had already been prescribed millions of times prior to Covid, so preventing someone from using it before the vaccines were developed, and then still before they were truly tested, is worse than ignorant- it may well have cost people their lives, your "double-blind placebo controlled peer review studies" notwithstanding. btw- Using all of those "the experts know more than you" words are meaningless in real life.

I have had Covid twice now, allegedly. I had it the first time before tests were developed, so I can only work from the symptoms I had, though 80%+ of Covid symptoms are shared by many other diseases. The second time, I was tested in a medical facility. Both times were essentially non-events; I have had colds that were worse to deal with.

I'm kind of surprised that you're not all in a tizzy over this Twitter issue- you seem the type that likes to be protected from information that is not approved by your liberal masters.
2 ups, 2y
"your.. willingness to accept whatever comes from the government "

Unless you believe the government is controlling Joe Rogan and/or the doctors and nurses I have spoken with, it seems the only part of my comment connected to me believing something from the government is regarding the FDA full approval of the vaccine.

"..touting the vaccines as being safe because they are "FDA Approved"? Seriously?"

All I'm saying is between ivermectin and the vaccines, only one has been proven effective (and approved) to fight covid. I understand Oxford is still doing a pretty large study on it though. Maybe it will yield different results than the Brazil study published in the New England Journal of Medicine and you can cite that as opposition. In any case, you seem to kind of be talking about vaccine deaths without any real specifics.

"That a number of people have died after taking the vaccine does not mean the vaccine is not generally a success. These are not, but they are not unsuccessful because a small % of people died from them."

???.... What?

"When younger athletes suddenly drop over from heart conditions after taking these vaccines, I don't know, we might want to take a closer look at it.

Ok there is a somewhat specific example. Yes. Let's take a closer look at it. Who keeled over and what is your source?
2 ups, 2y,
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To be clear... I disagreed with Rogan (a democrat/liberal?) in many ways regarding Covid... But being healthy is common sense. If you're unhealthy and vitamin deficient you're more likely to die or get sick from a multitude of things. If you think the government should tell people that I mean ok but idk. America is generally not healthy as a society....that's why Covid is a problem.

Trying to single out masks as the sole factor for the decline of the Flu is like singling out ivermectin in the Rogan example. Or "physicians who successfully treated their patients using HCQ and/or Ivermectin". There was a whole list of other factors there that should not be ignored and in any case Covid ≠ the flu.

I'm in favor of twitter including a disclaimer on fake news regarding a virus that's killed ~ a million people and FDA approved vaccines vs unproven treatments. Not necessarily saying the government should step in on that but ya... I've spoken with doctors, nurses, etc and even the republican ones I've spoken with agree with me. But to be fair doctors can (and do) make mistakes just like anyone else. They could be wrong.... As could whatever ones you are claiming were suppressed.(?)

Ah yes the old "died with covid vs from Covid" argument.... A classic. Does that possibility also apply to vaccines or do you get to pick and choose how/ when that logic is applied?

Idk. You seem to distrust a little bit more than just Covid deaths!
3 ups, 2y
"Idk. You seem to distrust a little bit more than just Covid deaths!"

Yes, I do distrust a lot more than just Covid deaths. Your comments are rife with irrational logic, and an apparent willingness to accept whatever comes from the government- most likely, so long as the government is currently being run by liberals.

Is there some special initiation ceremony that people go through before entering into public office that makes them 100% trustworthy? I know of no such process.

Are you really touting the vaccines as being safe because they are "FDA Approved"? Seriously? They may turn out to be just that, despite the inevitable fact that not everyone can tolerate a certain treatment. That a number of people have died after taking the vaccine does not mean the vaccine is not generally a success. These are not, but they are not unsuccessful because a small % of people died from them.

I do not know what the exact status of this issue is today, but given that there was a real attempt to suppress the information that went into this "FDA Approval" for 75 years speaks volumes.

You have an extremely selective approach to the information you disseminate, and a clear double standard, in spite of your attempt to pin that double standard on me. When younger athletes suddenly drop over from heart conditions after taking these vaccines, I don't know, we might want to take a closer look at it. This is a new phenomenon, and for all we know, it could be from the vaccines, or it could be from exposure to the virus, or being exposed to a variety of viruses in conjunction with Covid, or it could be that after taking the vaccine, exposure to the virus becomes somehow more harmful.

There are a lot of unknowns surrounding this, which goes to my original point- the suppression of legit doctors and scientists, who put forth what you referred to as "snake oil", is insane. That you posit this position means you have aligned with said insanity.
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
In the US there have been ~81million cases of Covid and it has killed ~1million people.

Meanwhile there's been ~220million people fully vaccinated and the vaccine has killed ........ ? ....."Many"..? Not sure.

"I will take the real-world examples of it working"
..One of the more publicized examples of ivermectin "working" that I know of is Joe Rogan. Only problem is dude clearly regularly exercises + regularly takes vitamins + took ivermectin + took monoclonal antibodies (which I'm pretty sure have been shown to be effective against Covid.. at least against the Delta). So it's entirely possible that the ivermectin he took was as effective against Covid as a bag of Hot Cheetos would've been and that the actual heavy lifting was done by the monoclonal antibodies.

Covid has been disproportionately killing the unvaccinated this entire pandemic and continues to do so. Coincidence?

You catching and then getting over Covid puts you right in there with the majority of other people who've had Covid including Rogan. Unfortunately I have had direct family and friends of family die, be hospitalized, and have pretty severe long term effects from Covid. (in 2020)

Me being in a "tizzy" would change literally nothing. I'm not on Twitter and I am fully aware of the danger misinformation poses to our Idiocracy. Most (all?) front page memes here about Covid and any preventative measures have been false or misleading since the beginning. But Musk seems committed to the idea of getting rid of foreign bots...so at the very least maybe I will be comforted to know that the people propagating piss-drinking as a cure for Covid are actual fellow Americans.
2 ups, 2y
"One of the more publicized examples of ivermectin "working" that I know of is Joe Rogan. Only problem is dude clearly regularly exercises + regularly takes vitamins + took ivermectin + took monoclonal antibodies "

And therein lies the problem with a liberal trying to defend what liberals did during this trumped-up crisis. At least the liberal left did not totally ban the information that came largely from the public regarding the health factors that played a much larger role than the vaccines in how each person reacted to Covid, or whatever it was they actually had. I am unaware of any serious, major campaign from either the CDC or the WHO or HHS that pushed getting healthier, and turning to things like Zinc and vitamin D. Perhaps had the liberal MSM not been so busy giving the DNC billions in free negative Trump campaign advertising, they could have turned to that. I wonder how many people that actually died *from* Covid might have been saved had CNN/MSNBC replaced their death counter with recommendations to take Vit D & Zinc?

I do not know if you are among the ignorant that believe that masks utterly stopped the common flu, but were totally unable to stop the spread of Covid. Given the numbers of deaths you cited, I guess you are.

Nonetheless, I was referring to the many stories that came from practicing physicians who successfully treated their patients using HCQ and/or Ivermectin. You refer to "the danger misinformation poses to our Idiocracy", which would seem to indicate that you would have been in favor of the suppression that these doctors did experience. Many doctors did what they did in the US, and likely around the world, for fear that not aligning with the Liberal govt's directives would cost them professionally. I can think of little else that would cause trained doctors to push experimental vaccines that had NO track record. And guess what- you continue to do so with zero knowledge concerning the long term effects.

We cannot have an intelligent conversation until you acknowledge that dying with (allegedly) Covid is not the same thing as dying from Covid. Especially given the incredible financial incentive hospitals and doctors had to code every death possible as Covid.

As to this, "Covid has been disproportionately killing the unvaccinated this entire pandemic and continues to do so. Coincidence?", I attach a meme that deals directly with data and stats. Of course, I also continue to not trust the diagnosis of a Covid death.
2 ups, 2y
‘The Five’ slams the media’s response to Musk’s Twitter takeover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EczHMdmhFAU
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3 ups, 2y,
2 replies
Censorship in libraries; good, censorship on twitter; bad. It's week but it checks out
4 ups, 2y,
1 reply
To what censorship do you refer? What books are not being allowed in public libraries, that are funded with the tax dollars that come from parents?
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3 ups, 2y,
2 replies
Hmmm, nice deflection. So sorry you cannot have it both ways.
2 ups, 2y
Deflection? He asked for examples lol
3 ups, 2y,
2 replies
Unfortunately, I don't know what you mean since you haven't answered the question. What books have been banned?
4 ups, 2y,
1 reply
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3 ups, 2y,
1 reply
No, please no. Censorship! aaaahhhhh!!!
3 ups, 2y,
1 reply
The irony,,,
3 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Eh, it's normally what I do on imgflip. I don't engage with trolls or complete idiots. I just downvote them and move on.

You could call it censorship, but it isn't really, seeing how things work on this website. Comments only get hidden after there's a considerable number of downvotes compared to upvotes. And even then, if people want to sift through the trash and read those comments, they are more than welcome to.
1 up, 2y,
1 reply
So what's the point of getting comments you don't like 'semi'-censored if that's not the point?
3 ups, 2y
There's not really any point. Again, I just downvote and move on. It's simple to just press a button and not engage with stupid people.

Anyway, I'm not the one who designed the whole upvote/downvote system buddy.
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3 ups, 2y,
1 reply
You're not a fish, dont be so coy.
1 up, 2y,
1 reply
Seven days?
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2 ups, 2y
F**k. Took you long enough.
3 ups, 2y
I'm not sure if it is ironic or not, but your willingness to overlook the well established fact that the liberal snowflakes at Twitter were using their petty "power" to suppress Conservatives is something.

Gaslighting comes to mind . . . or do you really believe what you are intimating?
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