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2 ups, 3y
4 ups, 3y,
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maybe it should've targeted matt gaetz instead lmfao
3 ups, 3y,
1 reply
Or maybe the numerous PedoCRATS and their leader?

3 ups, 3y,
1 reply
Are you sure about your claim?

I’ve known Pedo Joe was shît for 30+ years.

His own party once called him “the bottom of the barrel” when it came to him running for president.
0 ups, 3y
That picture I shared is over 30 years old, so I’ve had photographic evidence for that long too.

PedoCRATS are sure pushing for MAPs to be the next letter adding to the LGBT group.

Even their SCOTUS pick is soft on those possessing child porn.
3 ups, 3y,
1 reply
He should be in prison just like the rest of them.
0 ups, 3y
^^most based comment i've seen from you in a while
5 ups, 3y,
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Grooming is already against the law, so obviously the bill is about something else. The author of the bill originally added a provision that would have required school principals to out gay and bi kids to their parents once the school learns of their sexuality. It was an anti-gay bill from the beginning.
4 ups, 3y,
1 reply
Have you read it?
4 ups, 3y
No, he hasn't. And even if he has, he would claim it's still not about grooming 6 year olds.
4 ups, 3y,
2 replies
I think that should be required so the parents can prepare themselves and the child for what happens next (i.e. the heightened STD, depression, poverty, suicide, etc...etc... rates associated with homosexuals and bi people).
2 ups, 3y,
1 reply
No one should be forcibly outed. What is wrong with you?
3 ups, 3y,
2 replies
Yeah, the family needs to prepare for all the bad stuff that comes with it. The individual should be educated too. Why are you against education?
Btw if they are under 18, the parents should definitely be notified because statutory rape could be happening.
1 up, 3y,
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"Yeah, the family needs to prepare for all the bad stuff that comes with it."

Nothing bad automatically comes with it

"The individual should be educated too. Why are you against education?"

You're not talking about education, you're talking about misinformation.

"Btw if they are under 18, the parents should definitely be notified because statutory rape could be happening"

Based on what?
3 ups, 3y,
1 reply
Bad stuff does come with it including: huge suicide rates, depression, mental illness, STDs, poverty etc...etc...
1 up, 3y,
1 reply
Again, not automatically
2 ups, 3y
The only way to avoid it is to be aware of it and then avoid it. I'm sure there's someone somewhere that completely avoided it by pure random chance just to prove the rule by exception.
2 ups, 3y,
2 replies
Are you an insane person?
3 ups, 3y,
1 reply
No I just keep up with the science and studies.
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
Show me a single study that says kids should be forcibly outed to their parents.
0 ups, 3y,
2 replies
There's no force required. The law states that the child is the parents property, with a few caveats about child abuse. So the parents should already know.
1 up, 3y,
1 reply
"The law states that the child is the parents property"

False.
What eon do you think this is?
0 ups, 3y
You need to familiarize yourself with the law in the US.
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
1. Nobody is anyone's property.
2. That still doesn't suggest at all that it's the right thing to do to out kids to their parents.
0 ups, 3y
1. According to the law they are treated as the parent/guardian's property.
2. The parent is supposed to be privy to all information regarding their children.
2 ups, 3y
He really is
1 up, 3y,
1 reply
"I think that should be required so the parents can prepare themselves and the child for what happens next (i.e. the heightened STD, depression, poverty, suicide, etc...etc... rates associated with homosexuals and bi people)"

Don't forget to tell people that same sex marriage causes tornadoes and hurricanes. You probably believe that too.
1 up, 3y
Ad absurdum.
4 ups, 3y
"Grooming is already against the law, so obviously the bill is about something else."

Tell that to the leftist agenda and the public schools who want to push the grooming crap on kindergartners.
3 ups, 3y
Actually, what has liberals in a tizzy is the massive shift of power away from them to the parents.

Essentially, the law flips the script where almost everything becomes opt-in instead of opt-out. There could also be criminal penalties for not seeking parental permission in advance. Only pedophiles could possibly be against this state of affairs.

To become outraged and attempt to defeat the law on a anti-parental rights basis would be political suicide in an election year, so liberals had to invent a pithy lie to get the useful idiots to carry the water. Hence, "don't say gay" was born.

The problem is the word "gay" appears exactly zero times in the text of the law. It doesn't limit any of those discussions from taking place, it completely bans them from taking place WITHOUT PARENTAL PERMISSION. This is what set liberals off.

What I want to know is simply this : why would you want to have discussions my children are ill-equipped to handle WITHOUT MY PERMISSION? What, exactly, are you trying to hide?
4 ups, 3y,
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How would that be illegal?
3 ups, 3y
There is nothing they are not allowed by law to disclose to parents.
3 ups, 3y,
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Doesn't matter. Parents have absolutel authority over their children legally except for things like abuse that are called out specifically in the law. It's why schools are allowed to do any of this at all because of the inparentis laws. They essentially arct in the parents stead while the child is in school.
2 ups, 3y,
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Religion is not the same as something that directly affects your body. The state supposedly has nothing to do with religion remember.
2 ups, 3y,
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Religion is out of the purview of government agencies. As in the have no jurisdiction at all. To tell or not to tell as the constitution makes clear. Totally different than this.
0 ups, 3y
If a teacher told some parents that their child converted to a different religion, that is not the teacher endorsing any religion. Which court case specifically says that?
0 ups, 3y,
1 reply
The constitution prohibits the government from endorsing religion or prohibiting the free exercise of religion. It doesn't say a teacher can't tell parents what religion their child is
2 ups, 3y
The courts have ruled that doing something like that would be considered promoting one religion over others.
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5 ups, 3y,
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Maybe if you say it a million more times, it will suddenly become true
6 ups, 3y,
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What's not true about it? That's exactly what the bill is meant for.
2 ups, 3y,
1 reply
No, that’s exactly what Ron DeSantis and the GOP say the bill is meant for.
3 ups, 3y,
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Ron Desantis isn't wrong. We don't condone teaching sex to 6 year olds.
3 ups, 3y
The bill doesn’t mention sex, only gender identity and sexual orientation. Look who really doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
3 ups, 3y
"Ron Desantis isn't wrong"

lol yes he is. being floridian is enough to be wrong on so many things
2 ups, 3y,
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Does it say the word grooming anywhere in the text?
3 ups, 3y,
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Apparently it doesn't say the words gay or homosexual anywhere in it either.
2 ups, 3y,
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So it's "don't say sex" not "don't say gay"
Uptight and puritanical, but not bigoted.
I don't agree with it. I think it is necessary to discuss sex with kids, but only enough so that they can recognize inappropriate behavior towards them and have to vocabulary to talk to another adult about it. Unfortunately to give kids the tools to protect themselves from, or avoid, evil, they must be made aware of the evil's existence.
0 ups, 3y
I agree
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3 ups, 3y
That is the favorite tactic of leftists.
3 ups, 3y,
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Or, and I know this is crazy, you could read the text of the proposed law.
3 ups, 3y
Well first you have to know what child grooming is. Then you have to know what stops it.
2 ups, 3y,
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Just like liberals cannot get "don't say gay" out of their heads.

The reality is liberals couldn't care less, and they sure don't want to hear the discussions they want are still allowed SO LONG AS THE PARENT GRANTS PERMISSION.

That's the part they hate with a burning passion. Instead of opt-out, it would be opt-in with the default being a solid hell no. That still makes the questions :

1. What are you trying to hide that you are trying to do it without permission?

2. Why do you object to seeking parental permission on ANYTHING?
4 ups, 3y,
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If that is what liberals think about parents, then I just became wildly optimistic this November is going to be a blood-bath of Biblical proportions for democrats.

Thank you for making my day, week, month and rest of the year !!
3 ups, 3y,
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Given all the mundane crap I already have to explicitly grant permission for (going to museums, participating in sports) why shouldn't they ask my permission? At the very least I should be informed of what's being discussed (i.e. what the curriculum includes) so I can have parallel conversations if necessary and be prepared for any questions they might ask?
2 ups, 3y
I know this may come as a shock - but you pretty much just summed up the proposed law in an awesome fashion.
2 ups, 3y,
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Hypocrisy, thy name is liberal.
3 ups, 3y
Well, if anyone would know crazy it would be you, right?
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