Change my mind.

The office loudmouth that does nothing but spread work related rumors is more trustworthy than CNN.

3 month old bread that wasn't frozen.... Still more trustworthy than CNN

The smelly drunk hobo on the corner is a more reliable news source than CNN. And, these days, I’d trust him with my kids before I’d trust a CNN employee.

What do you think make the hobo a drunk and then homeless? Hired CNN to babysit his kids...

Would a Democrat trust Trump more than CNN?

Only if they were holding on to a cliff and President Trump was right there offering to help pull them up and CNN couldn't be pulled up on a smart phone at the time.

Let's see... Current front page memes include:

-2 memes equating Joe Biden to Hitler. (Lol)

-Some poll (apparently polls are considered legit now again?)

-The vaccine does not prevent covid (misleading and sooooo typical for front page memes about anything covid/vaccine related)

-Omicron is the same as a cold (haven't heard much about deaths yet but apparently someone unvaxxed just died from it in TX)

-Dead people voted for Biden (more humorous than accurate.. although some here would have you believe millions of em voted in 2020 )

-Biden wishes you death, illness and failure (clearly ridiculous)

Somewhat recently, someone made a meme of Pelosi and other democrats in Congress portraying the (alleged) democrat stance on Peng Shuai in china.. and their actual stated source was the comment section of a news article about it.

Sooo.... Ya I would say I trust CNN more than this essentially anonymous meme website...... Although to be fair it IS clearly a low bar and they should be held to a higher standard. Also I do frequent this website wayyy more often than CNN so maybe there are fake news stories I miss from them.

Which of these is wrong? I'm pro-vacc, but the left keeps saying it doesn't prevent catching or spreading covid. MSM says their has been one person who died "with Omicron" globally, with tons of "cases." Seems pretty cold-like. You have "science" saying otherwise?

The vaccines help prevent catching (and therefore also spreading) covid and the efficacy of it generally reduces over time.... But for whatever reason people here seem to act like well it's not 100% effective so therefore it's not effective at all.

I was also initially skeptical of omicron considering I seem to hear almost nothing about deaths from it... But it occurred to me that 1. It's barely been here and generally if covid is going to kill you, it does not instantly kill you... it takes weeks. 2. I was kind of looking at it's deadliness in a vacuum / out of context. Many people have now been vaccinated (which along with helping you not catch it, also helps prevent death if you do) and our overall knowledge of it and it's treatments have also improved. Also hundreds of thousands of "high risk" older, less healthy, immunocompromised people with comorbidites have already been killed by covid.... and you clearly cannot be killed by covid twice. Many have also already had covid and survived (so they should have some level of antibodies which could help fight omicron). Pfizer also has a pill now which they say helps prevent death by 80%+ if taken soon enough.. (although that ball has barely started rolling as far as distribution).

But ya Omicron is now the dominant strain here @ 73% of cases according to the CDC and the current 7 day average for covid deaths is ~1,300 per day.. If Omicron is "like a cold", theoretically the death rate per day should decline from where it is now. It seems as if people are already assuming that it will.

(I would also point out that if the new covid pill is as effective as they seem to think and it gets widely distributed and taken soon enough, a decline in covid death numbers alone might be misleading when determining the inherent deadliness of omicron.)

Also... Beyond the claim of omicron being "cold-like" in terms of deaths, there are people here who make memes implying that covid is LITERALLY the flu..... (I.E. the flu case numbers declined and covid numbers rose... therefore covid is actually the flu..)

All of them.

That is not what the left- is saying. That is misinformation usually propagated by anti-vaxxers.

What people are saying is that the vaccines help with limiting the severity of the contagion window and the symptoms to give you a fighting chance against covid and, hopefully, it's variants. The latest variant is an unknown. In fact, Omicron's impact is still relatively unknown other than it has a higher infection rate than previous variants. One person dying is not enough to describe it as cold-like. If that were true, then one could describe covid in it's early days until it's death count exceeded 75,000 in one year to 375,000. Waiting for that data is intelligent, true, but not enough to make such a definitive conclusion. People, on both sides, basically have a problem with saying the words, "We don't know."

You don't dive into a vat of some kind of acid and say, "Hey, only the one guy is melting. It's not that big of deal for the rest of us."

Preliminary reports are that omicron, while more infectious than previous variants is milder in comparison. But these are only preliminary reports. It will take time to investigate and discern if this is true. Don't mistake caution for pessimism - or worse, conspiracy.

Yes, how easily the goalposts shift. Now the vaccinate was never suppose to vaccinate against the coronavirus hahahahaha

In order for goal posts to shift, one only needs to find where anyone ever said that vaccines are 100% effective.

No statistician would ever make that mistake.

Further, if the "left" were so confident in vaccine effectiveness, then the "leftist" pharmaceutical companies wouldn't have needed to cover their asses with liability protections, would they?

Did you have anything to actually say or were you just triggered?

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Wow! I wonder where they picked up the tactic of labeling political opponents Hitler? I really wonder.

You say "picked up the tactic" as if they haven't done it before.

*shrugs*

It happened to George W Bush too. The difference is that you only had reporters and journalists doing it to Trump. But nice examples of obscure civilians having an opinion. Get back to me when ANY journalist even dared criticize King Obama, ya know, cuz RACISM and all. Easiest presidency ever. Even SNL rushed to suck him off, just like they rammed their collective tongues up Hillary's crusty prolapsed anus.

My comment about it was LOL.. never claimed it was original and it happening to W Bush doesn't make it less ridiculous that it happened to Biden or Obama.

As far as it being done by "obscure civilians" and getting back to you... ok. Is now a good time? Obama/Hitler comparisons and references were parroted by:

Mike Huckabee
Glenn Beck
Rush Limbaugh
Ben Carson
Sean Hannity

And a slew of other people among right-wing media websites and programs which I could provide who were more or less backing up claims from the above people.

As far as race/ racism.... Ya that's part of what makes the Obama comparisons to Hitler particularly ridiculous.

SNL..? Hillary's prolapsed anus..? I think we're getting off topic!

Biden has been acting a lot like Hitler did, as have the left with their pushing segregation.

Polls are useful tools to get ideas on what voters and the public think about topics.

The vaccine doesn't FULLY protect against COVID. That's why Janet Warren and thousands of other fully vaccinated citizens in the US have gotten Covid. A recent hospitalization check up has shown that 10 percent of new cases to hospitals are fully vaccinated and or fully booster dosed.

The common cold and omicron are obviously not the same. The common cold kills more people yearly than omicron.

Dead people vote in every election. It's part of the reason mail-in-ballots are a terrible idea.

The White House did tell the unvaxxed they have a terrible future of death, disease, and over crowding hospitals... Even Snopes admits that one.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/white-house-unvaccinated-winter-severe-illness-death/

Only item you're pointing out that's legitimately not more trustworthy than CNN... Is someone's response on a website being used as fodder for a meme....

Based on just your responses - you should trust Politics for your news more than CNN.

Wow. That is some fascinating perspective you have there.

Making such claims that Omicron isn't deadly because of how many people it's killed now is potentially the equivalent of saying covid isn't deadly because only 1 person has died from it in the US with two months into the general public knowing about it in March 1st of 2020. In fact, that was where were then. You really want to chance that again?

In fact, Covid didn't even hit beyond cold numbers until May. A good five months in. Are you saying we should just ignore the numbers until March? All right, I guess we should only take any infection seriously until it exceeds cold numbers and not work to actively contain it at all... well beyond it's point of containment.

I'm sorry, but that just makes less sense to me.

How many people world wide have been killed by Omicron? Between the two of us we can count them on our fingers and toes.

How many people get killed by the common cold? Tons. Common cold is the most common cause of pneumonia - which kills 50,000 a year in the United States along. Being generous - let's just say half of those pneumonia cases are from colds and boom, you can see one is clearly more deadly than the other.

I'm sorry to use facts and reason against your feeling about the subject.

You're not using facts but using flawed reasoning. Fourth dimensionally speaking, my point that it is too soon to know all the facts is a more legitimate argument than simply yours which is... everything is fine now because you do not recognize any facts yet to be collected.

It's a fact we can count the global deaths of Omicron on our fingers and toes. We aren't even to a 100 mark of deaths yet globally of Omicron.

It's also a fact that in the US alone - pneumonia kills 50K a year and it's a fact that the common cold is the leading cause of pneumonia.

So it's you who aren't acknowledging the facts.

Until Omicron is killing 50K a year in the US alone, it's nowhere near as deadly as pneumonia. That's a fact - based in math, which is numbers science. Trust the science.

So, you're just going to ignore the fact that omicron is a variant of a coronavirus that has killed 600,000 people in the us alone in 2 years. The amount of people exceeding last years 10 month window.

Okay.

These are also facts that you appear to be conveniently ignoring.

Dead people do not vote. People who have voted have died immediately after or people with the same name have voted, been erroneously miscounted as dead, wives who still have their husband's full names (because that was once a thing - and still is kinda) have voted and been mistaken for their dead husband, and lastly - people have illegally voted using the ID of a dead person. That last case is only reserved for individual cases and cannot be exploited so broadly - nor so easily without evidence to support.

It's called padding the ballot box and there have been records of dead people voting - and it happens on both sides of the fence.

You're wrong on this one.

I just explained to you how you're wrong.

Again, dead people cannot vote.

There are simply circumstances in which people have voted early and then died, been erroneously reported as dead, erroneously voted, or purposely voted with dead people's identification.

It's actually called ballot stuffing which is when a greater number of ballots are cast than the number of people who legitimately voted. The term refers generally to the act of casting illegal votes or submitting more than one ballot per voter when only one ballot per voter is permitted. Which there is evidence that happened in the previous election and other elections - and those votes were ultimately not counted or simply were too few to affect the overall election results.

And I provided information conflicting your statement because your statement is false. Ballot padding via dead voters has happened in elections for years. It's usually local elections where the numbers of voters to win is much much less than say a Presidential vote.

If you don't think dead people vote - you've got your head buried in the sand to ignore the problems around you.

The information you've provided does not conflict with my statements but rather overly simplifies and ignores the facts I've stated.

Nah.

Biden is Hitler, Trump was Hitler, Obama was Hitler, every president is Hitler. It's stupid and somewhat dangerous in that eventually a boy who cried wolf type scenario could arise.

Polls are "real" when you want them to be and fake news when you don't. It's like an on/off switch... Similar to unemployment numbers, covid deaths, etc..

Correct. They're not 100% fully effective at protecting you from catching it and dying. However that is not what the meme said. It said the vaccine "does not protect you" which implies that it does not protect you at all. That is clearly misleading and the status quo for this website.

Ok so to be clear you are comparing ANNUAL cold deaths..... to a covid variant which has been here for....... 1 month..
?

"Dead people" vote every year about as many times as Omicron has killed so far.

You do understand the difference between a PREDICTION and WISHING something happens, right? If President Joe Biden wishes the death of unvaccinated people, then idk wtf he went out and bought 10 million of the new covid pills for. Like hey bro f*ck you I hope you get shot in the chest...here...have a bulletproof vest.

Ya that was only 1 example from within the past few days and these are only the current front page memes right now. Other notable ridiculous claims I have seen made here: The George Floyd /police brutality riots in 2020 were due to Hillary's loss, covid does not exist it is literally the flu, everyone who takes the vaccine will die, Biden was caught "driving" a truck with 2 steering wheels, liberal protesters were caught burning a cross, St. Jude Children's hospital is regularly murdering children, nobody at the capitol on Jan 6th was armed, and on and on and on...... I mean I am actually not sure if I have ever even seen a front page meme here about covid or the vaccines that was not false if not misleading.

Anonymous memes have no lawsuits, no accountability, no real motivation to retract anything, and I'm not saying everyone here is a foreign bot/troll but I wouldn't be surprised if some of em are.

I'm also confused, why should he trust Politics over CNN for his responses? Because you disagree with him? Because they do not adhere to your confirmation bias? These are evidence that Politics is not as trustworthy as had been claimed.

Not that anyone should get their news from a singular and definitive source.

Which, in and of itself is nonsense.

Spoken just like a CNN CEO.

Thank you for thinking I'm CEO material.

But I believe I said "Not that anyone should get their news from a singular and definitive source."

So I think that puts me out of the running for any news source. Let alone CNN.

Considering CNN, NBC, CBS, and ABC all get their talking points from the same up the stream source (look up the compilation of news personalities locally all telling the same story of how misinformation is dangerous to our democracy)... It's obvious they don't want just one media source telling their story.

and yet still manages to be on israel's good side

Depends who on Imgflip is giving the information...I've found many who are just as one sided as CNN here, on both sides. It's hard to find any source that isnt biased anymore.

eh, close tie

What stream are you talking about-it matters a lot. If you're talking about the politics stream....
PAH

Well imgflip is more biased

*than
Pay attention to your middle-school English teacher instead of posting garbage on imgflip.

I would agree with you before the 2020 election. But now many of the "conservatives" on here are just as corrupt as CNN.