robert byrd kkk

Weird you never see them voting for democrats though.

Spend alot of time around them, do you?

No I just see a lot of “conservatives” in my area waving confederate flags. Not so many libs.

That may be true but you are conflating the two.

Ok where is the KKK most active? Blue states or red?

You know that the confederacy existed solely to preserve slavery?

“No it was to preserves states rights!”

To which we ask- right to do what?

Them:

Main reason among many and you still you didn't answer the question.

What question?

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Looks right on track

100% true...yet prepare for liberal crickets.

Liberal crickets is fine by me... Got most of those idiots blocked on this site anyways lol

All 3 of them and their alt accounts?

Haha yeah

I prefer liberal cricket over those that try to defend the indefensible and in this case Robert Byrd.
Liberals - "But he quit the KKK!"
Me - "Doesn't mean he stopped being a racist!"

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As Morgan freeman said, The way to stop racism is to "Stop Talking About it" Who can argue with God Himself?

Well then, what was the big deal back then about?

Saying only one party or one person can be racist is pretty dumb was my main point. As is the potential subjective notion of what is and isn't racist. You're free to think Trump or Whitehouse is or isn't a racist but proving it actually a little more difficult, as is whether or not their platform is based on it.

Of course, it's rather moot in regards to Trump.

The people have spoken and removed the racist bastard.

Although, personally, I found his stupidity and need for constant attention to be the bigger problem rather than whatever his views on racism. (or him seeming to think he was the least racist person he knew... meaning he must know quite a few racists, I guess?)

Yeah, when Trump said that Obama was the first mainstream African-American that was articulate, bright and clean, that crossed the line. Oh. Wait...

And then there's my favorite Trump Racist Line - "If you don't who to vote for you then you ain't black!". . .oh, wait, that was NoIntergration Biden. . .let's see, oh yeah, the Alt-Right/Spencer, KKK endorsements!. . .no, wait, Trump rejected all of that in 2016 but Biden didn't in 2020. . .um. . .Trump supported that bogus Prison Reform that kept way too many Blacks in jail longer in jail than they should've been!. . no wait, Trump and couple of famous people worked to get rid of it. Trump didn't lift a finger to help poor black neighborhoods. . .except Economic Zones which did help poor Black neighborhoods that tried the program. . .
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Gee, how can Trump be that frickin' racist when he has done the complete opposite of what a full blown racist would do.

There are more than two races. And you can try, and fail, to appeal to black people and still be racist. Black Lives Matter comes to mind.

Nah, I think it was his general incompetency in handling a worldwide health crisis that cost him his election. If we were electing people on how much dumb shit they said whenever or wherever then Trump would've gotten a second term. I'm perfectly happy with the fact that Biden won simply because he wasn't Trump... as should any conservative or Republican.

It really sets the bar low to not elect Trump again.

And yet...

Obviously you're entitled to your opinion, he wasn't the only one in control. When he cracked down at the start, he was called xenophobic. Now it turns out, Hydroxychloroquine does have beneficial effects on people fighting Covid. So like Rahm said, never let a tragedy go to waste.

Dude, Biden says more dumb shit then Trump. Neither are book smart but Biden has lost it. Biden lied about marching in a civil rights march, he had to drop a presidential campaign over it. You think Trump was extreme but the Dems under Biden are far more extreme to the left than Trump was to the right.

(Or maybe just elect a better Republican.)

Obviously, I'm in the latter idea.

Nobody called him xenophobic over the China travel ban. He claimed people did, bit it didn't happen.

Hydroxycloriquine - no

More extreme - like what?

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/yes-biden-called-trumps-travel-restrictions-xenophobic/

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/study-shows-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-treatments-210300816.html

Gee, I wonder?

He called Trump xenophobic and says he was the worst possible person to lead during a pandemic.

I'll grant you timing is suspicious based in the dates of tweets, but the statement would have made sense even without the China travel restrictions. You have anything else?

Hydroxycloriquine - that article referred a single study that was not peer reviewed. It is also an observational study, not controlled trial. There have since been a number of controlled clinical trials that resulted in the WHO and FDA not recommending HCQ.

Except thst democrats have a looooong history of being racist, but they been getting away with it by using something called projection. It goes as this, you blame others what you are guilty of so the eyes of the people goes elsewhere.

Accusing others if being the real racists in an old tactic. Hell, they did it pre civil war. According to the antebellum South, the northerners were just virtue signaling. To paraphrase of course.

They claimed that they were actually only looking out for the slaves best interest. I guess it doesn't matter if the summer makes sense of your base wants it to be true.

The context here, since it went over your head and you clearly missed it, is while Trump was president the media, liberals, and democrats alike constantly were accusing Trump of being racist. The one president who actually helped thousands of black people! But the liberal/democrat media will not expose the many leaders, including the current president, of the racism they have from within. They are being hypocrits and you are trying REALLY hard to come out with excuses for their bad behavior. That is all.

Yeah, that 'context' went right over my head since the meme actually says 'the real racists are the democrats', implying that there are no racists in the Republican party.

The news covered and discussed when Biden asked the reporter if he would take a drug test and when he said Black kids were just as smart as white kids. Are you counting opinion shows like the View as the media, or just the actual news? Because if you are counting opinon pieces, I'll point you over to Fox and Friends and say 'good day'.

Trump reminded people day in and day out where he stood. He wanted to show his base that he wasn't putting up with the 'black agenda' or whatever, and he did. Well, you can't not believe that racism still affects POC today and be an ally to those same people when they are telling you it does. Its like saying you don't believe the numbers on sexual assault and then complaining that women are calling you sexist when you didn't actually do anything.

As far as why Trump is seen that way... Going back to birtherism, telling 4 congresswomen of color to go back to where they came from (3 of whom were born here), putting a stop to DoD diversity training, when the looting starts the shooting starts, him trying to get the Central Park 5 executed (that ones way back there), not just insisting on existing statutes be enforced but adding new crimes to protect confederate monuments, etc. You can say those things weren't racially motivated, but in almost every situation where he could have gone left or right on an issue, he went right.

I saw a piece the other day saying that in private he was actually quite a bit more sympathetic to George Floyd because he'd heard stories about how rough the cops could be growing up...but he didn't say any of that in public because he was playing to his base.

The political challenges of supporting your base while still showing basic support to those who didn't vote for you and probably never will is tough, but that's the job.

And yes, Biden going to Tulsa on the anniversary of the Tulsa Race Massacre, Juneteenth, etc. are symbolic and don't mean much in real terms, but its something.

My meme? Better go check again who created it. I did said that democrats have a long history of racism. Can you argue that?

My mistake as far as who created the meme.

Racism is a people issue, not a party issue. However, I do think the prevailing attitude on the conservative side that you should just ignore accusations of racism because you know you aren't racist is like ignoring signs of termites because you just know you don't have termites.

I don't think you have that same prohibition on the left. I've seen us accused of being 'too woke' and turning on our own, but that's what it takes. You have to be willing to be your own worst critic. But it is also natural to give more allowance to people on 'your side' than on the other, so I'm sure there are racist views where we say 'oh they didn't mean it that way' when we wouldn't give that same allowance on the other side. That goes both ways though.

I told an uncle of mine once that being open to accusations of racism is key to personal growth. Look at what you meant to say and what they heard you say. If they are misreading the intention, then reword and apologize. If on the other hand you really believe what you are saying, they are hearing it correctly, and you don't think it is racist, then have the courage of your convictions and debate it.

Not talking about race, pretending to be color blind, etc. is how we end up in this mess of not believing people who have been saying for years that they are being treated unfairly. Not all accusations are going to be real, but developing a policy of assuming that all accusations are fake is bogus.

No balls to admit there is a crisis, that his elected president aint doing shiat. No balls to give a straight answer. No balls.

Dude let it go, you still can't admit Biden is doing nothing about the crisis. You are going in circles in your own head. ROFL, no balls.

So again I am not a Republican or Democrat. But i sit watching the hypocrisy. You originally came defending your party. There is nothing to defend. Racism is bad no matter where is done. This meme is exposing 2 racist, yes linked to the democratic party, one who the left media is protecting, because they are hypocrite. The very same media that accused Trump constantly of being a racist, AND helped put a racist president (Biden) in position. Why are you even arguing with me?

Most of what you call accusations of racism was political commentary (opinion) and in right leaning media it is just as bad against Biden. I could argue that that sort of commentary against Hillary is why Trump won in 2016. Don't hate the playa - hate the game.

Yes it was all opinion but people bught it. Oh you bet I do hate the game. I hate also how easily people are braiwashed and manipulated.

yes, because Biden is destroying this country...and socialism... Cry me a river. Go look at some of the right wing predictions of what would happen if Obama won a second term. It was some hilarious Mad Max stuff. Don't pretend one side is clean in all this.

And really, aren't we the do nothing Democrats and Biden didn't do anything for 40+ years...but now he's an extremist? Tell me more about being brainwashed and lead around by the media.

Is this you?

1) I did not asked if you were a proud democrat, my question was in regards to border crisis, the answer i yes, there is a border crisis
2) my question was very specific to the Biden administration, which the answer here is also yes, they are doing nothing about it. Why will they? (Retorichal question)
3) yes it is costing americans billions of dollars a year killing the middle class. Can't you do your own research? You can Google right?

All answers are yes. You are not retarded, you are clever, you knew answering "yes" will prove I had a point with my meme (and. You a dick for attacking it). You lacked the guts to give me a straight answer to those questions that made you unconfortable. I am just judging your character. You are a coward.

Checkmate. Game over.

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1. Ok, call it a crisis. It's not Bidens fault there are refugees fleeing and looking to come to America. You can't be the city on the hill and complain about that.

2. If the policies and resources in place are adequate, then so be it. Nothing needed. If they aren't, then action needs to be taken. So I again ask, what should he be doing that isn't already happening? **In this point I'm very serious - I don't like blind spots. Where is he specifically dropping the ball?

3. I've read multiple studies. Numbers are all over the place because there are assumptions that must be made. Blame foreigners is fun and all, but what about prison slave labor? Call centers and fish farms room by prisoners making well below minimum wage? The decline of the middle class is a complicated issue and it sure isn't caused illegal immigration.

Checkmate? ♟
This isn't that sort of game.

Simple yes and no answers you really went out the long way to come up with a hard to understand questionable answers. 1) I assume you meant yes, just hurt your pride a bit to agree to it. 2) you went out on your own tantrum talking about Obama and Trump, you did not answer my question. Again simple yes and no. 3) you are not bringing any actual facts. Yes, illegal imigration will benefit slavers with shady businesses paying the illegal under the table while destroying the middle class whom as a punishment has to pay billion in taxes a year, your crappy answer tries to deflect that truth. In all and all, why should I care what you have to say when you are not capable of giving simple yes and no answers. You are either a retard or you are a coward incapable of giving simple answers. Which one is it? (Note the answer is either retard or coward)

I'm sorry, I thought I was clear enough. I'll be sure to keep things simple for you. I just don't like leading questions so I have a detailed answer.

1. Doesn't hurt my pride at all to agree. I'm not a proud Democrat, I'm a progressive. If there have offends, cut it off.

2. Ignoring the border. I disagree. Just because he isn't tweeting about it doesn't mean it isn't being addressed. We have existing border policies and border protection for a reason. Unless you can point out to me what he should be doing that he isn't?

3. I don't know what the cost is and I don't know that anyone really does. Upwards of 50% of undocumented people are estimated to file taxes. Apparently there are always rumors that if amnesty is offered or they apply for citizenship they can show their tax records to bolster their case. The irs is funny. We don't care about your status: where's our money? Even those paid under the table pay sales tax, pay rent, etc. Many people under a certain income don't pay income tax, and plenty of Americans doing the same sorts of jobs are paid under the table too... There are also people who use stolen SS numbers and end up paying into SS, Medicaid, etc. with no expectation of being able to file for those when/if needed.

Destroying the middle class - that's a leap. The number of people here illegally dropped between 2007 and 2016. I've seen no solid numbers but that probably continued under Trump. It's something like 10 million or around 3% of the population.

4. Retard or coward - not for me to judge

Do you deny that
1) there is a border crisis
2) the Biden administration has been ignoring it
3) illegal immigration cost billion of tax payer dollars a year?

1. We have a large number of people seeking asylum and illegal crossing crossing attempts. These things fluctuate. Crisis...If you want to call it that, sure it probably qualifies.

2. What should he be doing that he isn't? The Obama administration deported not people than Trump. I don't worry that the border will stay secure.

3. Undocumented - estimates vary. Some studies have shown a net gain for the economy and some the opposite. There are definitely some billion dollar estimates.

Wait wait wait, you are typing too much. I hear a lot of "I think" and "I do not think". Nobody cares about what you think if you do not bring facts to the argument. You ignored my question trying to derail it. I asked can you argue that democrats have a long history of being racist? Been waiting for your answer to drop some fact bombs if you denied that. Also, can you deny that during Trump's precidency the left media was bombarding him with racist accusations and the very same media is now silent about racist democrat politicians? Two easy questions. Go.

And i responded that racism is a people issue - I'm not going to argue that any group doesn't have a history of being racist. So, yes I'm derailing that question because you are trying to make it one sided.

If you insist though, I acknowledge that Democrats have a history of racism. If you go back far enough, you can definitely make the case that it was Democrats who were worse. But I wasn't alive back then. I don't consider myself a Democrat, though I am registered as one so I can vote in primaries. I'd jump ship in a hot second if there were a better option.

Left media - you could make the case but their are varying quality levels among the media. If you go to left leaning sensationalist rags, yes of course. But what about the right leaning media? OAN, Newsmax, Foxnews, etc. They didn't call Trump racist and are now calling Biden racist.

As far as opinion shows - yes, the people who thought Trump was racist gave their opinion that they thought he was racist. The same as Fox news personalities made opinion based claims about Obama and now Biden. I would prefer that the media be fully equal in their treatment of everyone, but they are people with biases. That's why I have to go to multiple news sites to try and get a full picture of what's happening.

Some, yes. All? No. Anyone who says someone is a racist by association is a moron.

Hey I already knew you had TDS no need to flash it around.

Saying a long time registered Republican has TDS sure is a weird way of admitting you're a partisan hack. Hey, guess what, I don't always vote for someone with an R by their name. You should try it sometime. And no, you only voting with people with a D when you were a kid doesn't count.

I vote no president. I actually have to write that in rather than hitting a button. I am libertarian. Clearly, repuican or not, you dislike Trump, and sir that qualifies you for TDS. Better go have that checked out. I did not voted for Trump, but damn i do not go full retard beleiving all the stupid lies media puts on him trying to demonize him. I mean, some of them are really stupid, yet people believe them... hmmmm.

Sure, having a different opinion means I have a disease. And sure, you refusing to participate in the voting system means your perspective is far superior to mine. Or, maybe you don't know what you're talking about and are otherwise frustrated as a result and just refuse to participate in a longstanding American tradition. You know, I myself haven't participated in every election because I didn't like either choice, and that is okay. But at least I'm honest with myself and others. I suspect you aren't.

I have yet to demonstrate that I believe every single thing said about him in the media. I'm sure that about 80% of it is true. My opinion is primary based on his actions and his own words. I honestly think if Trump did not use Twitter, didn't have any rallies (except maybe ever other year to get other people elect besides himself, which even that seemed like such a chore for him) then maybe he might have been elected again.

Not by me, of course. But then again, maybe without those two vehicles, he might've understood his job a bit better and done a better job! But, you're right. I'm just an automaton that quotes the media and just hates Trump because I was told to hate him.

Or I legitimately just think he was a selfish, frustrated troll. And while I'm sure he was your hero in how he trolled doesn't mean I never considered him a potentially good President but rather a completely wasted opportunity to bring some outside perspective. Unfortunately, with his policies, he was more of the same. A puppet of the elite. The elite that Trump Supporters claim to hate. Sure, he talked a good game about draining the swamp or whatever nonsense that was, but as far as I'm concerned, he basically showed the swamp how to package, sell, and merchandise their own bullshit better. That is not what makes America great.

Nothing wrong with commercialism. I just don't think the way they did it did anything more than put more money in the pockets of the elite. It certainly worked out for them during the Pandemic under Trump's watch.

Do I blame Trump for that? Nah, he didn't know what he was doing.

Glad he is gone.

So is anyone who knew what an idiot he was.

"Sure, having a different opinion means I have a disease" well, let me ask you. Why do YOU think because I have a different opinion than you it means I have a disease?

I don't think you have a disease. You think I do. My statement was sarcastic of your opinion. Sheesh.

All I've said about you is: "Or, maybe you don't know what you're talking about and are otherwise frustrated as a result and just refuse to participate in a longstanding American tradition." and claimed you aren't "honest with [yourself] and others." but I inferred that I understood your frustration because I said " haven't participated in every election because I didn't like either choice, and that is okay."

The rest of my comment, if you didn't read it, actually claims that I think Trump could've done a good job, which kinda goes against your whole premise that I just hate Trump for no reason other than I was told to. But, I make this claim solely by the worst, and arguably the most shallow, facets of his Presidency. I just think he, too, was frustrated. I buy that! Frustration is often born of ignorance. And his ignorance in that position puts the burden of responsibility onto him. When a person can't do the job, for one reason or another, because they're frustrated then understandably they probably aren't going to do a good job. So I don't hold that against Trump.

Especially since I couldn't have been alone in that perspective since SOME conservatives and Republican voters, like myself, did not vote for him. Even some libertarians, if you are to be believed.

So 1+1=3 cause truth is subjective. . .

Your comprehension of grammar and math is suspect.

First off, one plus one is two.

Secondly, I said what is true can be subjective which is a far cry from the generalized statement that truth is subjective as you misread me saying. If you're dealing with a person's perspective and the limited knowledge of facts then a person can still speak the truth and yet be quite wrong.

Just like you were now.

Thank you for essentially proving my point with your erroneous statement.