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Hackers can get to the energy grid but elections?

Hackers can get to the energy grid but elections? | so let me get this straight; 
hackers just shut down a 
quarter of Americas fuel 
supply, without a hitch, but the idea that an election 
could be hacked, is pure crazy? | image tagged in politics | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
1,588 views 80 upvotes Made by chedmacq 4 years ago in politics
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5 ups, 4y
Party On - - Upvote for you!
6 ups, 4y
IT DOES SEEM SILLY IT'S NOT LIKE WE DIDN'T WITNESS IT HAPPEN DURING THE DNC PRIMARIES | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
3 ups, 4y
Mike drop | SUCK IT, BITCH | image tagged in mike drop | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
That is a hard core smackdown awesome point. Kudos, dude!
3 ups, 4y,
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It is 100% possible, but that doesn't mean it happened. Ballot machines are kept offline for this very reason - its why the counts aren't instant. Additionally we keep paper ballots for the purposes of audits and hand recounts. It could be totally electronic, but we (and most other nations) have resisted that for this exact reason.

To my knowledge, every location where it has been requested has hand recounted. So, while I don't think there was fraud, there was time before the states certified to look into that. AZ is going through an additional audit now.

Industrial Control Systems (ICS) are also normally kept on isolated networks or totally offline in order to prevent these sorts of things from happening. I, for one, am chomping at the bit to find out who dropped the ball on this one. My bet is they connected it to allow real-time analytics and adjustments without having people onsite. I bet there is a PowerPoint slide somewhere where someone talked about all the money they were going to save by not having to have people go to each location.
3 ups, 4y,
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Dominion Voting Systems | THE VOTE COUNT PROBLEMS ONLY CAME FROM STATES USING DOMINION SYSTEMS | image tagged in dominion voting systems | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
it's a very good reason that the voting ballots should NOT be electronic, because all of the key states where there were many affidavits of voting fraud all used Dominion voting systems. Those electronic voting systems have been shown just how easily ballots can be changed and accessed by someone with admin access.
1 up, 4y,
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First, I want to make sure I'm clear: it is possible that there was election fraud. However, all the evidence that has been presented so far has been disproven to my satisfaction (and the judges on individual cases and AG Barr). If there is evidence, I want to know. Because if the Democratic party is everything you claim, then they won't be getting my votes anymore. Thus far, all I've seen is suspicion and easily disproven theories.

It is on the accuser to provide evidence that there was fraud, not the other way around. All states have certified their results at this point.

Ballots aren't electronic. Even when the ballot is created by a touchscreen, the ballot is printed and turned in by the voter who is supposed to verify accuracy. <- I can't speak for every state, but the ones I've looked into, this is the case.

Minnesota - Aitkin, Crow Wing, Dakota, Mahnomen, Scott and Sherburne counties use Dominion equipment. All but one of those counties — Dakota — went for Trump in the 2020 election.

While signing an affidavit is evidence, it is just someone saying that something happened for the record. It doesn't mean its true.

Georgia - they did a full hand recount, so I'm not sure how the dominion machines even play into it at this point.
2 ups, 4y,
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I live in GA and they did not do a "full" hand count. They only recounted the votes from the Dominion system and hand-counted less than 2% of mail-in ballots. In GA, the Dominion voting booth does print out a hard-copy piece of paper, but the compliant by election officials is that the electronically recorded vote can still be edited after the ballot was submitted. In GA, after doing the 1st recount, they found over 12,000 voters never counted by the Dominion system and over 10,000 ineligible out-out-state mail-in ballots, which were remained counted with the main vote count. Also, there were 2 particular counties that accepted mail-in ballots after the deadline, which that alone is an election law violation. GA had a large number of poll volunteers that reported many discrepancies that were not investigated and largely ignored. There was also evidence of county elections shredding mail-in ballots, which is also against GA state election laws. In GA, mail-in ballots have to be archived. I watched the AZ and PA state courts where election officials presented very compelling evidence of election fraud, but in all cases (I think throughout the U.S. as well), the cases were dismissed as in never went to trial. Not due to a lack of evidence, because 1000s of affidavits were submitted, but because the judges were pressured and did not want to be in the middle of a very contentious election.
0 ups, 4y
According to this: https://sos.ga.gov/admin/uploads/11.19_.20_Risk_Limiting_Audit_Report_Memo_1.pdf

"Georgia’s original machine count resulted in a margin of 0.3% between candidates Joe Biden and Donald Trump, requiring a full manual count of just over 5 million ballots to complete an efficient risk-limiting audit" - If they used a sampling or anything, I'm not seeing it mentioned.

There were votes were found in the recount that hadn't been added - I show 5900 in that category. It was because of the counting machines had put totals on memory cards and one wasn't uploaded. That showed up when they did the manual recount. This is human error.

Georgia officials did a fantastic job of addressing most of the rumors. If you want to provide me with specific links to where these were found, I'll take the time to look.
0 ups, 4y
You can not use logic and reason with a Trumplican. They simply will not allow themselves to be presented with ANY fact that destroys their obsession with Trump
2 ups, 4y,
2 replies
Still no evidence, Qtards. AT ALL.
3 ups, 4y,
1 reply
1 up, 4y
Yes it does
2 ups, 4y,
1 reply
"Still no evidence" that you know about
"Qtards"; Trumphatertard
0 ups, 4y
That anyone knows about
0 ups, 4y
the 2020 election was... hacked? Lol
Keep 'em coming.
0 ups, 4y,
2 replies
Well considering the pipeline controllers were on the internet, and ballet machines are not, explains how it is possible. Your ignorance of IOT is showing.
2 ups, 4y,
1 reply
0 ups, 4y,
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Hello, the size of the air gap the ballot machines and the internet had, is precisely the size of the air gap in between your ears. Not connected means, not connected. None, nada.

I have an idea, go and volunteer at your supervisor of elections next round. Educate your self about the process...
2 ups, 4y,
1 reply
They showed that thermostats were used to hack the machines.
0 ups, 4y
Source?
2 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Not mine; some random African kid
0 ups, 4y
Roger that. I stand corrected. 🤣👍
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so let me get this straight; hackers just shut down a quarter of Americas fuel supply, without a hitch, but the idea that an election could be hacked, is pure crazy?