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The final nails in the coffin of the middle class

The final nails in the coffin of the middle class |  ME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE; DURING A PANDEMIC WHEN SMALL BUSINESSES ARE HURTING THE WORSE , IS A GOOD IDEA. | image tagged in stupid liberals,liberal hypocrisy,2021,joe biden,so true,memes | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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1,406 views 83 upvotes Made by KingToady 4 months ago in politics
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10 ups, 4m,
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I'm in the middle of automating one of my entire stores and if it goes well I'll automate the other two.
Even if I take a hit in sales I'll probably still be better off.

$15 X 24 hours X 7 days X 52 weeks = $131,000 for a single staff member in the store at any moment.
That's about $230,000 in sales to cover that
+ Taxes + property taxes + maintenance + rent + bills
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2 ups, 4m
Don't forget unemployment insurance. Just about doubles their pay.
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3 ups, 4m,
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You need more than 1 staff member to run the store
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6 ups, 4m
We just have 1 person on the counter typically.
We used to have 2 + me but there wasn't much point because we keep all the stock on double-wide shelves and we have quiet hours periodically, so we just always ended up with everyone just standing around
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2 ups, 4m,
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Don't most people work 8hr days and only 5 days a week?
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8 ups, 4m,
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Yeah but the stores open 24/7. I need(ed) someone in at all times
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10 ups, 4m,
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Nobody's talking to you, liberal. Stop being desperate for attention.
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11 ups, 4m,
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Imagine being so dull and socially awkward and rejected that receiving negative attention on here 9 hours a day is better than zero attention anywhere else.
As I said, nobody is talking to you, go get ignored somewhere else
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7 ups, 4m,
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Ok since you are so absolutely desperate for attention from absolutely anyone, here you are..

This is my 8th comment in 3 weeks.
Goodbye
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1 up, 4m
lol he hasn't responded since
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2 ups, 4m,
1 reply
That is your 8th comment in ONE DAY.

Have fun with your robot at your 24/7 7-11.
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4 ups, 4m,
2 replies
Have fun seeking absolutely any form of employment at some point
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2 ups, 4m,
1 reply
As a robot in your 7-11?
Golly, let me sign up as your android and see how little you pay that's cheaper than your 1 employee for your booming 7-11 store off Exit 8.
4 ups, 4m
You don't have the skills to work at one of my stores.
Hell, I'd probably hire security to follow you because there's a 100% chance youd steal something because that disability check doesn't cover much.
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1 up, 4m,
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What DO you sell at this way fab store that you operate 3 of with 1 hire and can't afford a 2nd at "$15 X 24 hours X 7 days X 52 weeks = $131,000 for a single staff member" who never eats, toilet breaks, or sleeps yet you can afford to fully automate, platinum plated Slushies and gold hot dogs broiling for 2 days straight?
1 up, 4m
He's referring to the cost to the store to maintain at least one staff member at a time. That would be at least 3 different staff members in 8 hour shifts. Of course you'd have to take into account lunches, breaks, overlap, ext. And I'd assume the have a couple of days off.
He's simplifying it to the cost to maintain staff in the store. The cost per worker can vary, base on whether they're full time, part time, ECT. Whether they receive health care through work, the additional costs (workman's comp, taxes that the employer pays, etc.)
He is trying to provide an easy to calculate cost to demonstrate how expensive the wage, on its own, is to a business. That's the lowest cost a 24/7 business with only one staff member at a time could expect to pay, assuming we ignore the complications of scheduling breaks and other overlap.
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2 ups, 4m
Seal of Approval - 4z05qo.jpg (click to show) Upvoted!
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2 ups, 4m,
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Even if one supports raising the minimum wage, it does not belong in the covid relief package. That is supposed to be one time/short term for immediate relief in a national disaster. In theory if raising minimum wage was part of covid relief, it should go back down once the pandemic is over.
Democrats want it as part of the relief package because they think they can push through something that they would otherwise have trouble passing. However, forcing it into the covid relief bill almost ensures the entire bill won't pass. If the minimum wage is raised, it needs to be a stand alone issue.
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1 up, 4m
"He's referring to the cost to the store to maintain at least one staff member at a time."

I know, I was just lampooning it because his story seemed full of holes.
To have to go automated for what he says are small operations would be more expensive than it would be worth.

And I agree with what you said in the post here and also with your meme the other day about Krogers, which I was going to come back to and say something, but got lost with other things on the way.

With all the businesses going under on account of gov'ts ordering them to shut down, wage raise is the last thing that should be on the agenda. What they should be doing is figuring how to keep these businesses afloat and make up for the losses incurred by that which was of no fault of their own.

Quite frankly I'm disgusted, any official orchestrating this shutdown without donating their own excessive salary to help mitigate the toll of this disaster should be ashamed of themselves - and that's putting it lightly.
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3 ups, 4m
Driving the stake to the heart! It is the big coorporations who pay for presidrntial campaigns that win. Manufacturing consent.
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2 ups, 4m
Worst*
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1 up, 4m
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0 ups, 4m
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0 ups, 3m,
1 reply
Well, let’s see...
oh yeah. People work at these places send and are having trouble paying for their rent. You know, this wouldn’t be a problem if there was a universal basic income...
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0 ups, 3m,
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So you think that if the government just prints money and sends everyone all 340 million of us 1200 bucks a month or more monthly, our country would be better, huh? So, you don't like industry , or production, or fabrication, or learned skills like welding or carpentry , we all should just get high and let the government take care of us all... cool . F**k this being productive garbage conservatives are always talking about , let's all be drug addicted , brain dead zombies, that live and die by the whims of the government.
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0 ups, 3m
If people worked to get extra stuff, not necessities then the industry would be better. Homelessness: not a thing. Economy: booming.
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1 up, 4m,
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Better living wage?
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2 ups, 4m,
1 reply
starting salary for a tradesman - like welder or electrician is about 15 an hour, to be fair someone flipping burgers should not be making the same amount as someone that went to school and learned a trade, if you are going to raise minimum wages you have to raise every other wage incrementally , and all that would do if make money worthless. MInimum wage jobs were never meant to be lived on.
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3 ups, 4m,
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2 ups, 4m
turns the middle class into the working poor.
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