Just curious

I'm old fashioned, I like when the man takes the lead, to me having the woman take the lead is more of an effect of feminism like they have to be assertive and dominate the relationship. I like the idea if courtship over dating. It's how my husband did it, he even asked permission from my parents before proposing and that made me love him more.

Chivalry, that's the word you're looking for :) and it won my wife over too. Too many guys out there willing to roll over in the name of shame and emasculation in my opinion.

Ah yes, that's the word. And it's a lost art for the most part due to the wonderful mysandry that exists now. But some men still have the courage to treat ladies like ladies.

It's not entirely lost darlin' :)

I just have to wonder how many women out there have lost out on the benefits of it in the name of said mysandry or militant feminism...society can be so stupid sometimes! But, they will pay the price someday.

I think secretly most if not all women would like to be valued like that, like she's a treasure worth protecting. It's not a sign of weakness to depend on a man that loves you, and it's not misogyny to want to show love that way to the woman you love. We need to bring honor back to the sexes. I agree it's not lost entirely. I'd say it's a trait you're most likely to find among conservative men like yourself. Because you're all stuck in the middle ages ;)

Ouch, right in the chivalry

:p

Needs more medieval torture instruments ;)

I'm with you, Kate.

Aww!

Run away because girls never talk to me

I don’t think I’d turn it down if a lady asked me to date her.

They’d better not call it misogyny when a man proposes to a woman. Like seriously, is that actually considered oppressive?

I agree. men should be able to take the initiative and ask a woman out, open the door, drive her places, walk on the right side of the street, without it being considered an insult to femininity. If nothing it shows respect. maybe it's cause im from the south, but I prefer well mannered men who actually play the man :)

That's how I was raised, you treat ladies with respect, open their door, offer your coat, pull out their chair, etc. And that's just how it should be :)

yes it is :) I was very impressed by my valentine date when he always opened the truck door for me, and offered me his coat. manners can get you places

Well he's got a good start then :) good to know there's others out there who see it the same way!

While dropping off my dates, I always use to reach over and open the car door with the greatest respect, then speed up and push her out onto the sidewalk. They always appreciated the gesture.

🤣 yes they do

I don't think I touched a door the whole time

yes lol, but sadly is being shipped off to basic training soon

And then that man gets called a simp by the 7 year olds

Not sure what that has to do with chivalry...or 7 year olds...other than 7 year olds probably have no understanding of what actual chivalry (or simps) are.

Yeah, but modern society frowns on that kinda behavior these days which kinda sucks. But I personally believe it doesn’t matter who proposes first or any of that crap, chivalry rocks..

Modern society is trying to tear down all things traditional...but I don't really care about modern society honestly. I was raised to respect women, and also to act in a way that attracts respect from them. Being a decent person really isn't that hard, and that's all it really boils down to. If someone around my town growing up told me not to open a door for a lady and that women's rights dictates that I deprived her of her independence, they'd have gotten shut down really fast by everyone within witness range for trying to deny someone the manners that all people should get.

Mhmhmhmh smart words my friend, smart words

I have no issue with the last two, but the first one I can't say I like 1... something about it feels wrong.

I see no harm in it. I’m more old fashioned where I prefer to be the one that shows interest first. However, I’m not going to reject a woman who asked me out first just because she asked me out first. Who knows, maybe someone I never considered before comes to my attention because they worked up the courage to ask me out.

Or how about you liked a girl, but you always had the feeling she didn't like you, until suddenly she comes up and asks you out.

All three happened to me. Yes, when I married it was because my future wife (now ex-wife, though) who proposed to me. I was also asked out by a girl before. And when it comes to showing interest first, that is a toughie as quite often you do that without realizing you do that.

To be frank I can be rather shy when it comes to these things and that #metoo stuff even made me a bit scared. When it's the girl who takes the initiative I can at least be sure I did not "overplay my hand" with her, since if she would reject me when I asked her, she would not come to me first, would she?

Since I believe in an equal world or at least that is my own ideal, her initiatives to me should be the worth as much as mine to her. And I also don't see why she can't pay for my drinks, and I don't say this because I'd like to "profit" on her, as I would also pay drinks for her, but I mean, have things a bit in an equal setup.

When it comes to a relationship, I guess somebody has to take the initiative, but should men have the "privilege" to be one for that? I don't think so.

He's rich.

Oh wait, you meant something else...right? Lol

He's smelling the bbq you're cooking

The ribs go fast son, real fast...

Nothin' wrong with that, why do you ask?

Slightly curious

I wouldn't mind

1) it's fine
2) it's fine
3) it's fine

As technically I have no gender, it wouldn't change anything considering that she would not be breaking the social norms in our relationship, however statistically it's going to fail. However I have no problems with the women taking the lead, if not actually prefer it, to the very least.

completely fine.

No issues with the ladies making a first move, for dating or flirting. But, I'm old fashioned when it comes to the big question, I think that should be the man's duty. Nothing against any women that have made the move themselves, as long as it ends in a happy marriage but I just feel like that's how it should be. If a man is supposed to be the leader of the household and spiritual leader of the family, he should be mature enough and strong enough to take that step on his own.

I'm good with it, after all, that's how I got a girlfriend.

If society was like this the world would be a better place

Yea i think thats ok
If they both love each other why would there be an issue?
I understand some people think “the man has to make the first move” but i dont see why
Like some people wanna lead and some are too shy to go for it so its kinda a dead move
But then again i can’t control the earth
The choice to propose and anything like that has to come from within

i say this as both a man and a woman (because i'm not sharing my gender) but i wouldn't mind my future gf being the alpha in the relationship.