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More inconvenient facts about the unqualified community organizer from the political crap hole of Chicago

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17,452 views 54 upvotes Made by ChadAllen64 4 years ago in politics
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3 ups, 4y,
3 replies
Of course you don't recall it - you don't recall anything.

Swine flu emerged in April 2009 but wasn’t declared a pandemic until June. The Obama administration declared a public health emergency in April, BEFORE it was declared a pandemic. There were 20 cases in the US.

Obama declared a national emergency in October, not a public health emergency.
6 ups, 4y
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Check your facts.
5 ups, 4y,
1 reply
False. HHS declared a health emergency in April. Obama didn't declare a NATIONAL EMERGENCY until October 29th. By early November 2009 4,000 were dead.
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2 ups, 4y,
1 reply
After the second wave of the outbreak in early October?
5 ups, 4y,
1 reply
So Obama waited for the 2nd outbreak to declare a national emergency. Leading from behind. If Trump reacted this way, you would lose your mind. Oh wait, you did that anyways.
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3 ups, 4y,
2 replies
Right, so remember this conversation in October for the second wave of Coronavirus which we will not be prepared for because we aren't even prepared for the first wave.
6 ups, 4y
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3 ups, 4y,
1 reply
So much for your fortune telling career. Trump is declaring a national emergency.
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2 ups, 4y,
1 reply
I'll leave it to you to read the thread again until you figure it out.
2 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Let me help you. Obama waited for nearly 4,000 people to die, tens of millions infected, and a 2nd wave before declaring a national emergency.

Trump is declaring a national emergency today, in the first wave, before thousands of deaths and millions of infections.
2 ups, 4y,
3 replies
Let's compare apples to orangeman shall we?

1. "Swine flu", was a, "flu". A flu is nearly impossible to stop, regardless of borders closed or not closed.
2. The flu continually mutates.
3. Mortality rate of Swine "Flu" was .02%.
4. Covid-19, a, "virus" is 3.4%
5. 3.4/.02 = 170
6. Numbers given are from a full YEAR of the Swine flu vs less than a month of Covid-19.
1 up, 4y
Well that's all a bunch of nonsense.

"Swine flu", was a, "flu". A flu is nearly impossible to stop, regardless of borders closed or not closed."

The same thing applies to Coronavirus, so thanks. Also, we are noting delayed action not common knowledge of the flu.

". The flu continually mutates."

Again so does Coronavirus, there are already two strains.

Mortality rate for Coronavirus is likely overstated. Multiple virologist are on record saying there are likely more sick people who are not reporting their sickness and are just staying home.
0 ups, 4y
Hi, I'm not critisizing anything your saying it's all mostly valid opinion and viewpoint. My only reason to write comment was for you to maybe take a look at broarder figures as you will probably get a clearer idea on where things are in those places where Corona has more developed. John Hopkins University is one source.

Also, Another method other countries have done is to put a blanket ban on reporting the progress of this Corona virus. Although i doubt this is ideal in free society it certainly has reduced the panic aspect in those countries.

Sorry I couldn't put this on end of the chain for flow.
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Hi, I know your quoting the figures you can find, but those are inacurate/suggestive figures. You need to look at stats from Taiwan ,Sth Korea, Singapore and Russia. All have statistics at a more meaningful point in time for quoting. And incidentally all of them banned travel from China once it was clear what was happening.
All countries which banned international travellers from China in time will be proven to have had a better control on the spread of this once we progress along. The situation in Italy is the clearest example of open borders causing the spread.
1 up, 4y
Trumps ban on travel from China was a good move. Did I ever say it wasn't?

Whenever he has a statement, the move to ban travel from China, the one good move he made a month ago is the only good news he's got and he restates it every time.

There are two ways we've seen countries fight this. Complete lockup of all citizens or targeted assault on the virus through rapid testing of anyone worthy of testing, follow up with those who test positive and target people who came into contact with those affected. THIS, is where Trump is blowing it.

He's so worried about the numbers growing he wants to keep us all in the dark and ignorant to who is infected. If this doesn't change soon we'll have two choices, forced quarantine of all citizens in their homes or, we'll be known as the country that kept this thing alive and part of the human condition forever as it runs rampant through our population.
5 ups, 4y,
1 reply
You're wrong in your statistics. Deal with it.
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2 ups, 4y,
2 replies
They're not statistics. Do you even know what that word means? I gave you the correct timeline. Your meme is wrong.
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4 ups, 4y
No, you did not give the correct timeline. Quit arguing like an idiot just because you hate Trump. Trump is dealing with this virus much better than Obama dealt with H1N1 and you're just pissy about it, giving incorrect information about it. Then you double down and pretend you know what you're talking about and tell others that they're wrong. Damn dude, you failed and now you can't handle it.
2 ups, 4y
Nope.

https://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/estimates_2009_h1n1.htm?fbclid=IwAR3ohc0DLYGTZxhdBL1G21em9qUU0Css_q8gnWjLw3simBcPbCQYSEYneRg
1 up, 4y
Obama can thank his media disciples for covering his lack of leadership. Meanwhile, they are desperately trying to manufacture a perceived lack of leadership of Trump . . . And failing
3 ups, 4y,
3 replies
People did in fact lose their collective minds over swine flu, to an degree: but nothing like this. Same thing with SARS.

It’s true more died of swine flu. We’re comparing apples and oranges though. Covid-19 hasn’t yet run its course, and we don’t know yet exactly how deadly coronavirus is going to be when it’s all said and done. I hope it won’t be — and especially with these drastic shutdowns across society it probably won’t — but you never know.

Why is it different this time? Social media? A breakdown in social trust? Or maybe, just maybe: because no one trusts the current buffoon in the White House to deal with this?

I fail to see how any of these possible explanations are inconvenient for anyone but Trump supporters.





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6 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Nice bait-and-switch argument there.

This "buffoon" in office handling the situation much better than Obama did of the H1N1 "crisis." And trust me, there are far more people who trust him than trusted Obama. Toward the end of Obama's presidency I don't think his own mother trusted him.
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4 ups, 4y,
4 replies
The electoral college is our constitutional republic system of voting and it works well. We aren't a democratic system, we're a constitutional republic. And I wasn't talking about Hillary Clinton. Stay on topic.
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Y’all are hilarious

Anywho the Electoral College does not in fact “work well” and it will only continue to get worse

—Gore won the popular vote by 500,000
—Clinton by 3 million

Is there any popular vote deficit at which you’d be comfortable saying that the Electoral College is no longer reflecting the will of the people?

6 million? 7 million? 30 million?

You can even draw some unlikely, but theoretically possible, Electoral College victory maps that rely on as little as 23% of the vote

https://www.npr.org/2016/11/02/500112248/how-to-win-the-presidency-with-27-percent-of-the-popular-vote

We’re the only country in the world that has a system like this

The Founders had some great ideas but this was not one of them
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2 ups, 4y,
1 reply
The OP is about Obama. I was talking about Obama. Someone brought up Hillary. I told them to stay on topic. How is that hard to understand?

And I'm not going to go into detail about the electoral college due to the fact I've explained all of this before, but those with low IQs and a political agenda never seem to grasp it.

If this country were indeed a Democratic system, mob rule would be a thing and we wouldn't need 95% of its citizens to even vote. And you do realize that the electoral college is set up and moved around by the people, right? They're called districts and every state has them. We vote the representatives into office and they represent the districts. In turn the electoral college is set up with representatives at the local level. So if you don't like the way it's set up, vote for the guy you want to represent your district. Don't try to change something that isn't broke.
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
The OP meme is ostensibly about Obama and implicitly about Trump, but it's whatever.

The EC is in fact broken, esp. evident in 2016, and should be fixed. Honestly don't need to abolish it if we just did away with the "winner take all" aspect which would make the outcomes effectively much closer to the popular vote.

Popular vote doesn't equal "mob rule" in dozens of democracies around the world and it wouldn't here either.
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Democrats want to get rid of the electoral college because they think they would win more elections. What they fail to consider is that Republicans would alter their campaign strategies to go after the popular vote and, thus, win just as often if not more.
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
The GOP would have to in order to stay competitive in the major population centers that the GOP totally ignores currently (NYC, LA, SF, Chicago, etc.) because the Electoral College lets them

3 million voters nationwide aren’t going to change their minds that easily
1 up, 4y,
1 reply
“to stay competitive in the major population centers that the GOP totally ignores currently (NYC, LA, SF, Chicago, etc.)”

Kinda like the Dems who totally ignore the rest of the country. You just validated the need for the electoral college BTW.

Plus, the GOP wouldn’t need to change the minds of 3 million voters to win the popular vote. Trump didn’t waste any time campaigning in CA because he knew he wouldn’t get their EC votes. If he were going after the popular vote, he would have spent a lot of time in those cities and at least countered some of the anti-Trump garbage spewed by the Clinton campaign. If you think 70% of Californians would have voted for Hillary no matter what, you’re dumber than you look.
0 ups, 4y
Democrats would alter their campaign strategies too, and more heavily prioritize the states they currently take for granted.

The EC doesn’t help small states gain attention honestly. It only helps medium-to-large size battleground states like Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, etc. They are pretty large to begin with and don’t really deserve all this extra attention.
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Really? show me the electoral college in The Constitution. I'll wait
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1 up, 4y
It doesn't have to be in the Constitution you ignorant fool. The founding Fathers set it up because they were sick of mob rule and dictatorship leaders and realized the majority rules is a horrible system.

It's like having five wolves and one sheep vote on their next dinner. Dumbass.
0 ups, 4y
And when you post it remember that you only support the constitution when you like it
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
And stay on topic? Why? Trump supporters cant handle the facts of any topic.

I can post memes in this Right Winger safe place all day long and the only thing you cult fanatics do is lie, deflect, and ignore so I don't really 2 shits about your feelings
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1 up, 4y
You want to talk about deflection? You're doing it with your ignorant comment about safe spaces and right wingers bullshit. If you don't like it here, there's a political stream that would fit you better. It's called politicsTOO. A bunch of ignorant left wingers over there giving each other circle jerks over who can call Trump a racist and homophobe better. Check it out, moron.
2 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Ha ha, the popular vote is the participation trophy. You know, what you give losers so they don’t feel bad.
0 ups, 4y,
2 replies
Every time you morons open your mouths you expose your willful hatred of America
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2 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Yeah, keep telling yourself that while you jack off to your wokeness.
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Trump supporters call anyone who won't kiss his ass, believe his pathological lying, and all around life long parade of total bullshit things like Liberal, A lefty,

They claim they didn't vote for Trump because he's a good man. They voted for him because he gets shit done.

What does Trump get done? Other than cheating on all his wives, defrauding people out of their money, violating the constitution, betraying America to Russia, and falling in love with dictators.

Trump does not do shit. Scribbling crap on paper does not get anything done. People who do the actual work get it done you dumb mother """"""



I recall when my old party would have never stood or accepted any of the Anti American and immoral crap.

But here you are ignoring it, denying it, and blatantly lying about Trump on Trumps behalf

There is no way to avoid it. You are able to support Trump because you are void of any genuine morals or integrity.

The idea that a man who has serially betrayed his own family could ever be trusted by a stranger is mind boggling to me. It exposes what type of person you and every other Trump cult member is.

So in closing and I mean this from the bottom of my heart. F**K YOU

You are only American by birth now.
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1 up, 4y,
1 reply
"Trump does not do shit. Scribbling crap on paper does not get anything done. People who do the actual work get it done you dumb mother """"""

Oooo, you're getting triggered now. This is fun. Will you be twice as triggered when Trump wins re-elaction?
0 ups, 4y,
4 replies
Refer to my F**K YOU
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2 ups, 4y
"Refer to my last F**K YOU"
2 ups, 4y,
1 reply
“you are void of any genuine morals or integrity”

Oh the irony. Please, get some help before it’s too late.
0 ups, 4y
Nothing you will post will prove me wrong. If you had genuine morals and integrity you would could never support a pile of garbage like Trump. He's always been garbage and now he's a traitor. And so are you for defending and supporting it
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2 ups, 4y,
1 reply
"Nothing you will post will prove me wrong. If you had genuine morals and integrity you would could never support a pile of garbage like Trump. He's always been garbage and now he's a traitor. And so are you for defending and supporting it"

That's right snowflake, keep crying.
0 ups, 4y
Refer to my last F**K YOU
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1 up, 4y
This will really ruin your day:
1 up, 4y,
1 reply
You even admit you hate Trump - you know, the President of America...
Better get treated for your severe case of TDS. Check yourself into a mental health institution or something.

But seriously, please do get help. Your over the top hatred of Trump and anyone who doesn’t agree with you could eventually lead you to do something worse than spewing hate speech on websites.
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
Yep I hate American traitors. And Trump is a Traitor. And so are you for ignoring the facts that prove he is.

Democrat or republican does not matter to me treason is treason.

Think I'm a threat? Report me. Nothing I have ever said is in any way a threat to anyone. And I never will.

After they attempt to arrest and put me on trial I can sue the shit out of them for violating my speech privileges, false arrest and imprisonment.

You apparently are just to stupid to know the difference between what constitutes an actual threat of harm

Hating someone and posting facts about them is not a threat dumb ass. But then again your are dumb enough to support a huge pile of shit. And that says more about you than me
1 up, 4y,
1 reply
You’ve only posted hate speech. No facts.
0 ups, 4y,
1 reply
I'll play along just this once.

FACT: Trump lies so much I can set my watch by it.

FACT: You will respond with some dumb ass lie, denial, or deflection about it.

Something along the lines of what did he lie about? Or Democrats lie 2 as though that makes it ok for Trump to do it.

And that's all Trump supporters have. Lies, hypocrisy and double standards.

Bring up the Democrats all you like. Does change facts about Trump
1 up, 4y
“Trump lies so much I can set my watch by it.“ - that’s your opinion, not a fact

“You will respond with some dumb ass lie, denial, or deflection about it.” - You don’t even know what a fact is, and that’s a fact.

”Something along the lines of what did he lie about? Or Democrats lie 2 as though that makes it ok for Trump to do it.” - because you can’t even site a single lie he made. It should be easy to do so, or are you waiting for your watch? 🤣

”And that's all Trump supporters have. Lies, hypocrisy and double standards.” - More accusations without even a hint of an actual lie, hypocrisy or double standard.

”Bring up the Democrats all you like. Does change facts about Trump” - Didn’t have to, you already did so in your 3rd remark. 😂🤣😁
2 ups, 4y,
1 reply
"People did in fact lose their collective minds over swine flu, to an degree: but nothing like this. Same thing with SARS. "

You're a magician with words KF! You start off leading the reader down one path, then switch it up with the 'to a degree' hard turn and the soft landing of"nothing like this." Most impressive!
1 up, 4y,
1 reply
Lol

How do you remember it?
1 up, 4y,
1 reply
“no one trusts the current buffoon in the White House to deal with this“

Your TDS infection has become so severe, it’s causing you to have hallucinations. Get some help!
0 ups, 4y
2 ups, 4y
I like your point but add this. I believe there is no trust in anyone that holds a seat in DC. Yeah you have the die hard left and right but at some point the hand will need meet, with hand sanitizer at that. 😁
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