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That would be an oxymoron. That is not negative it actually exists. It means simply one cancels the other in laymens terms.

Maybe because being LGBT is not a religion. There aren't Buddhist clubs or Islam clubs just like Christian clubs.

It's still a violation of First Amendment rights. Guess the ACLU is biased.

I wouldn't say that. It is just a separation between religion and state. When those get intertwined things tend to get messy all around. People can still support and form groups for whatever religion they want but keeping it out of public schools is just the best for everyone.

Citation needed so we can answer important questions:

--What was the justification for the ban?
--Did the Christian group run afoul of anti-discrimination laws, or otherwise violate student conduct policies?
--Did the ban have anything to do with the fact that all schools need to abide by the First Amendment provision prohibiting the "establishment" of religion by government?

https://www.toddstarnes.com/campus/school-says-lgbt-clubs-are-permissible-but-christians-clubs-are-banned/

Thanks for linking the article.

It appears that the school takes the position that all religious clubs, not just Christian clubs, are not permissible unless they are open to students of all faiths. This hearkens back to my point above: "Did the Christian group run afoul of anti-discrimination laws, or otherwise violate student conduct policies?"

There's a lot of debate about how exclusive religious clubs are allowed to be. This can run into tricky territory. For example: If a student says that he is Christian and wants to be part of the club, but the student group itself disagrees he is Christian, then what is the school to do? How do we "know" which one is right? This is a good reason for a school to take the stance that religious clubs should be open to students of all faiths.

Sounds like this is definitely going to be litigated, and I don't know what the courts are going to do.

It's not persuasive evidence that this school hates Christianity.

If they were a true Christian group, they wouldn't have any problems allowing anyone to join their group.

The bull crap narrative that they don't allow anyone of any faith to start a religious group due to exclusions of some students, is a lie. They don't get included because there truly is a bigoted bias against Christian's and their faith.

The Constitution DOES NOT say anything about separation of church and state that doesn't allow religious group from forming on government property. This is bias and is against their Constitutional right to peacefully assemble.

I don't get the first sentence anyway, since if it's a CHRISTIAN group you'd think it would be comprised of.. CHRISTIANS.

It makes no sense to have a "Christian" club and then have muslims, atheists, hindus, etcs, as full fledged, regular members.

That isn't what I meant. I meant, they would allow anyone of any race join if they truly wanted to witness to them. Unless this "Christian" group was just created to make them feel good about themselves.

No, but the interpretation of First Amendment has been warped from protecting States' Rights in terms of choosing a state religion(s) (if they should so choose) from Federal Goverment interference to one where the slightest endorsment of any religion by any goverment at any level is prohibited.

Discriminating against all religions is fine, because they discriminate, and discrimination is always wrong.

That would include a few Lefties too.
(Skimming quickly through, I've spotted only 3 additional memers here that I know to
be definitely from the USA. Others I might not know well enough to have determined origin.)

Anyways,

The school is Roy C. Ketcham High School.

The School District is the Wappingers Central School District.

The Wappingers Central School District is - as the designation indicates - part of the Board of Education.

(Roy C. Ketcham High School is named after Roy C. Ketcham, who was once President of the local Board of Ed)

That would make Roy C. Ketcham High School a public school.

Mystery solved.

Allowing for willing participants to engage in a Christian based club at a school would not even come close to violating separation of church and state. They're NOT compelling anyone to do anything, it's called freedom. The attacks by the left on Christianity today are purely based on their desire to erode away our culture. They hate freedom and the American culture and they attack it by driving the wedge of identity politics between groups under the false pretenses then accuse the traditional side of being "intolerant". They're not good people and they love to vilify religion.

You still have to comply with the Constitution.

E.g. Was the Christian student group receiving taxpayer funds from the school in any way? That would be an Establishment Clause violation. If that was happening and then stopped, and the group then had to shut down afterward for lack of funds, then that chain of events might cause a poorly-phrased and politically-motivated headline writer to say the club was "banned."

But we don't know, since OP hasn't linked the article.

And: LGBTQ clubs, and indeed sailing, archery, Spanish, cross-country, gymnastics, football, or any other student organizations, however? They can be funded by taxpayer dollars. Because they're non-religious.

The Left - taxpayer funded abortions, GOOOOOD! Christian club at a school for those who wish to participate, BAAAAAD.

It's not what the Left says, it's what our Constitution says: even when interpreted by a 5-justice conservative SCOTUS majority.

Ummm, nope. You're a bit confused on the subject. Look up the Hyde Amendment. Planned Parenthood breaks federal law daily. They shift taxpayer money around through different back channels in order to skirt the law and fund millions of abortions every year. Here's a sad fact for you too...the majority of abortions are minority children. The Dems love slaughtering minorities don't they!

Abortion can be debated forever, personally I think in many, many cases it's used as a solution for irresponsible people to 'fix a problem'. If a person wishes to make the decision to kill the fetus growing inside them, that's between them and their higher power, which I doubt they even have. They should have to pay for it themselves or through their private insurance, not with the pool of taxpayer money.

I'd like to point out that when a pregnant woman is murdered, the criminal is charged with a double homicide in our courts. Yet, the frothy mouthed, pink pussy hat wearing abortion zealots argue a fetus isn't a person. It's just a lump of mutating cells or whatever. We, as a country, need to decide officially when a fetus becomes a 'person'. There's a big debate that needs to happen here but my current belief is at conception, until someone can convince me otherwise.

What's not up for debate is the use of the US taxpayer money to perform abortions. Planned Parenthood and the organ harvesting Lefties break these laws daily under the guise of 'healthcare'.

My mistake...PP only performs hundreds of thousands of abortions annually, not millions. Last year, 329,800.

Millions over the entirety of their existence.

It's not? You'd be surprised.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ShoutYourAbortion

sure it is!

It's like how science is a religion for some.

Exhibit A

Here, just this once, I'll do your homework for you. Whether or not this is the exact story the meme is referencing is irrelevant. The fact remains that the lefties aim to erode religion from our culture and replace it with something else, like their notion of "science" perhaps?

Educators at Ward Melville High School are either woefully ignorant of the U.S. Constitution or they really don’t like Christian teenagers.

For the second year in a row, the Long Island, New York high school has denied students the right to form a Christian club.

“I feel like they have something against me and my faith,” 17-year-old John Raney told me. “I feel marginalized.”

John is the founder of Students United in Faith, a service-oriented Christian club. Nearly 20 young people wanted to join the club – but the school said no.

“I wanted to start the club because I thought it would provide a safe space for Christians to meet and talk about their faith,” he said.

As John noted, there aren’t many places like that in Long Island -- especially at Ward Melville High School.

So here’s the back story:

Last year, the school pulled the same stunt. They banned John’s club because of its religious nature. Attorneys with Liberty Institute, a law firm specializing in religious liberty cases, stepped in and threatened to sue.

After a school district investigation, Superintendent Cheryl Pedisich reversed the ban and apologized to John.

The left wing version of "science"? It's called scientific research, peer review and then proven facts. Religion?

It's true because this ancient book with no verifiable and proven evidence says so.

Rational and logical people will stick with science and facts. Christians and Muslims will use imaginary stories to justify their hate, bigotry and intolerance

Like the left-wing science that says there is no biological difference between girls and boys?

"It's called scientific research, peer review and then proven facts."

Except /those/ things are called tools of the white male patriarchy, and it has even been ridiculously claimed that "Academic rigor enforces 'white male heterosexual privilege and should be replaced with 'alternative conceptualizations for evaluating knowledge'."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/engineering-professor-academic-rigor-enforces-white-male-heterosexual-privilege

Careful about research. It's really little more than documentation of opinion.

Faith is belief without verifiable and proven evidence.

Regardless of what you or I may think about it, the practice of religion is a Constitutionally protected right. You can't force anyone to practice your faith, but cannot prevent anyone else from practicing theirs, either.

Usually faith does involve evidence. It's simply not available to a closed mind.

He's talking about empirical, measurable evidence, which is the same whether one has a closed mind or not.

You're talking about subjective evidence, which is open to individual interpretation, if perceived at all, and is not measurable.

I'll have to find the meme I saved where something like 1/3 of scientific experiments can't be duplicated.

It was actually 2/3rds. I try to be conservative when I can't remember exactly. Ironic, huh?

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Lmao Grandma got run over by a reindeer walking home form your house Christmas eve.....you might think there's no such thing as Santa.......but as for me and Grandpa we believe. That is faith right there! ROFL.

My memory use to be super sharp, but the last few months... I'd be really obnoxious if I remembered all the crap I saw over the last 3 years lol

Modern scientists can't duplicate old results using the same methods. Alot of science is bullshit done for grants. I can't remember the % but it was surprising. I'll go through and try to find it. It was an article screenshot.

I remember hearing about this.

Sheeeeeeit. google came through.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-39054778

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/08/27/642218377/in-psychology-and-other-social-sciences-many-studies-fail-the-reproducibility-te

To be clear, I'm not shitting on all science. Jet travel is safer than driving on the highway.

Do you know that the technology used during the moon landings can't be recreated?

It's not that it can't be recreated, it's that it never existed, cus we never went.

Not sure. Either they destroyed the blue prints or they can't make that technology because it'd be too expensive to recreate those conditions. It's weird.

Simple explanation, Ward Melville High School is a public school.
Public schools are prohibited from endorsing and promoting religion.

Science, on the other hand - since the www is NOT magic or works on prayers - is a tad handier to know.

No worries, Americans make for demonstrably far worse students in that field and any other compared to much of the rest of the world (pretty sure Somalia and the deepest reaches of the Congo rank lower atm).
This is why actual scientists in the USA are dependent on foreigners to fill their ranks nowadays.

What they did, and are continuing to try to do, is ban the formation of a voluntary religious club without cause. The Equal Access Laws governing this type of thing protect the religious club's right to assemble in the public school. There is no 'endorsement' or 'promotion' going on. Only hate and intolerance of religion by left-wing hacks. No one is being compelled to do anything, just refused their rights, that's all.

Your 'simple explanation' is, simply put, false. If it were that simple, the religion hating assholes that initiated the ban wouldn't have reversed themselves and apologized.

Either they intentionally disregarded the laws and thought no one would call them out, or, they're actually as ignorant and intolerant as we thought. The official(s) involved in putting the children through this ordeal should be either demoted or fired. I'm leaning towards thinking they're just plain ignorant and intolerant since they banned it, reversed themselves, then tried to ban it again the very next year. Pathetic.

The LEFT....What they do not want to BAN, they want to make MANDATORY.

Do look into it? Public schools are not allowed to promote religion, and that would include any clubs which might be charged with doing so.

Where do you live, btw, that you are totally oblivious to this?

Okay. But I don't see a link and I'm not sure if what you copy-pasted is the full story. It seems like it's either missing details or you added your own gloss.

OP linked the article he was referencing and I responded below.

Perhaps.

If the school sponsors it, that's a violation of Church and State. But allowing and sposoring it are not the same thing.

Allowing a Christian Club while denying a Muslim Club is discriminatory and a violation of the First Amendment, in essence establishing a religion.

At the same time, refusing to allow a student sponsored Christian Club to gather and do Christiany things is a promotion of, and one may argue a state sponsored establishment of, atheism and agnosticism, which by some standards violates the First Amendment, and may also violate the Fourth.

In the end, it will depend upon which district hears the appeal.

Establishment Clause violation would be via Congress at the Federal level.

The First Amendment protects States from such interference. As originally intended, individual States are allowed to have their own state religion and requirements and practices pertaining to such if they so choose which in fact a couple did.