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because he was a democrat then

Pretty sure that since 1973, and on to 1989, then through 20yrs of Republican NYC Mayors Giuliani & Bloomberg, etc, WE NYCers did not like the charlatan Trump.

Oh, and prior to 2016 during his previous runs for office, neither did yous.

Think he was a dem until abt 10-12 yrs ago.

Yous?I was a democrat for 25 yrs. It took a good look at the corrupt mayor Street admin and the massive voter fraud that i saw with my own eyes in Philly and Chester pa to leave.

Check his party historieS.
And again, as awesome as he is, no one knew or gave a crap.
Go ahead, show me any publication talking about him being ok for us to like in NYC because he was Democrat or anyone mentioning, let alone celebrating it.

Of course, ALL Trumpers on this site have 2 things in common:
1. All voted Obama till, um, something - oh yeah - Socialist Communist Marxist Bernie got screwed by Hillzy.
2. None voted Trump, they just feel so bad for him after the red carpet the magic commie Negro from Kenya got.

You saw such fraud? How? Dead Mexicans at the poll booths voting Dem?
Pretty sure it would have been publicized, Philly not being quite the obscure nowhereville and being a tad significant in this US voting history thing.

The fraud I saw was people voting multiple times for ppl who were not there.
My one work associate voted 20 times. It was reported to the feds, cops local and nat news. Nobody said a damn thing.

There actually was a ton of news articles on the street admin at least locally.
He was the classic example of "pay to play" in philly. Our Union had to dish out millions to get work.
The feds did investigate, His brother was dying of cancer and took the fall. The rest was swept under the rug as usual.

My Dad same story, same bs when he was there but Under Wilson Goode. He literally
dropped a bomb on the city (No joke look it up)and burned down Ossage ave. The contracts to rebuild were "pay to play" They were smarter, they paid the right ppl. wink wink. But look up "Wilson Goode" and Bombing of Osage ave. circa early 80's ( i know u dont do links)

Come on, man, you literally SAW people do that? A work associate literally TOLD you that?
Trump's own commision on vote fraud found nothing while people in Philly are voting 20 times while no one there does anything?

I live in the Bronx, where being 'shady' gives certain people street cred, and yet even living in a slum for 21 years with anything from hoochie mamas bragging about buying their 40s with their EBT and SSD collecting Mafioso openly gambling in social clubs, and never so much as heard a story about Joey Stoonz voting multiple times.

Pay to play? Like that's not how Daddy Fred Trump worked his way up from KKK marcher to projects builder to real estate tycoon, and Donny continued the same, taking it into the high end?
The NAACP and the rest of those "Look, I know Colored celebz" photo ops, what, that all came from buds Trump made hanging out at Aunt Jama's Soul Food Joint in Harlem twice weekly for lunch?
Heck, he may very well be the first person who is famous for absolutley no reason, setting the template for Paris Hilton and the Kardashians, you think that happened because NYCers liked his ultra shiny Dem card? He BOUGHT his fame.

read between the lines

Trump has nothing to do with the street or goode admin being crooked .
I know what happened
You are more then welcome to come to Chester the next election .

I highly doubt people will openly do such in front of me, and that no one will say anything about them voting again and again.

they actually got paid, you dont work a union job do u?

Again, this makes zero sense. People voting repeatedly in front of you and no one noticed? They just got back on line 20 times? And you witnessed this while you voted just once?

What are you waiting for, my permission or from a union? Contact the authorities already then. Contact Trump.

who do you think was running it.
when i said "read between the lines" it means "think"
send me your email

btw, the state, local and feds were contacted
the local and nat news were contacted.
the clinton foundation was contacted
nothing was done
(the one I was "witness"(( think)) to was the 08 primary BHO Vs Hill)

the nat news Includes fox and cnn*

Silly rabbit! You don't become Hitler until you disagree with at least 1/1000 liberal policies

Oh he agreed with "liberal" policies, they just changed their policies when he ran for president, so that he couldn't get liberal votes.

You mentioned something like this before. What are you talking about?

Guess you missed when him and Fred got sued for not renting apartments to African Americans? Minor details.

Google?

So you don’t know either

hmmm, looks like your Google app is broken.

I'll not waste our time for what you will dutifully call "fake news!" even if God himself carved it in stone for your perusal, but there's one thing we can agree on - that asshole Nixon's Justice Dept filed suit.

Nixon.

Yes, Nixon.

It's also well known that back then, and even to this day I think, black people moving into a neighborhood causes property values to drop.

It's not fair, but it's a fact, and any property developer of the time who was purely interested in profit would try to keep black families out of their new developments for purely financial reasons, even if they weren't remotely racist in their personal beliefs.

In other words, at best, those practices prove him a greedy businessman, they don't prove he's actually a racist, despite the framing the justice department used to sue him.

while that is a defence against the claim of being racist, I was just countering the meme that claimed no-one called him a racist while he was a real-estate guy, when in fact plenty of people did.
Here's another example, in 1980 he was sued by a former employee of Trump Castle - Kip Brown. He claimed that when Trump and Ivana visited the casino, black people were ordered off the floor!

Trump received an NAACP award for helping black people and is pictured here with Rosa Parks and Muhammed Ali, who also received an award

" I was just countering the meme that claimed no-one called him a racist while he was a real-estate guy, when in fact plenty of people did."

That's true. Although the meme is also true about the other things he's been called since running for pres.

As for the Kip Brown thing, you'll have to clarify for me. You said he claimed black people were ordered off the floor, but did he specifically claim Donald wanted them off the floor? Could it have been Ivana who gave the order? I haven't exactly heard good things about her. (What little I /have/ heard, that is.)

Rental rates don't go down because of race.

Nobody said rental rates. Property values =/= rental rates. Although when property values drop, that does force rental rates down, since people aren't willing to pay as much in rent.

I said it.
But I didn't say it to you.

No, that's not how it works.
I live in NYC for REAL real, where supply & demand is a thing.

No, it's still racist to try to prevent property values from dropping because of racist reasons.

Rrrrright. Then it's equally racist that the majority of players on most major league sports teams (barring hockey) are black.

Apples and oranges.

No, analogy.

Sure!

If you can pay, then you should be able to rent.

If you can play, then you should make the team.

It’s not hard.

But black athletes are generally physically superior to white athletes, and perform better, so they bring in more money for the teams and the league. Does that make the team owners and league members racist for going after the money?

"Aaaand you’re still wrong. On both counts."

I guess we'll just each have to leave it at agreeing that the other is wrong.

The difference is skill versus financial ability. The team owners don’t take race into consideration. Trump and anyone who refuses to rent or sell to African Americans are.

Well, it's plain to see that you just refuse to accept that it could possibly be /only/ about the money. Because yeah, big business oligarchs are SO well known for their philanthropy.

Let us leave the ad hominems at home and actually argue the argument, shall we? I'm perfectly capable of accepting the possibility that it's about the money, but using it as an excuse for racial discrimination is still racism.

There is a considerable difference between hiring someone based on their skin color and hiring someone based on their skill. As you know, there are still some white athletes (besides hockey players), but if a specific team only hired black players based on their skin color, you would definitely have an argument for racial discrimination. But you would have a harder time proving that team owners and league members exclusively hire athletes based on race than you would proving that property owners discriminated against African Americans by refusing to sell or rent to them because it requires zero skill to buy or rent property.

Okay, thinking more about it, I can admit the analogy isn't 1 to 1 perfect, but I was trying to illustrate that race can be a purely business consideration even when it's not an individual's own beliefs.

My point being the racism is, in both situations, an actual example of /institutional/ racism, not personal racism.

Aaaand you’re still wrong. On both counts.

It’s not institutional racism but personal racism to willingly deny renting or selling property directly to people of color. Property values going down, if they even do, would be an example of institutional racism.

Mangers and owners willingly hiring players by skin color and not skill is still personal racism. African Americans being statistically better at sports is the result of institutional racism.

Institutional racism is the collective failure of an organization to provide an appropriate and professional service to people because of their colour, culture, or ethnic origin. It can be seen or detected in processes, attitudes and behaviour which amount to discrimination through unwitting prejudice, ignorance, thoughtlessness and racist stereotyping which disadvantage minority ethnic people.

It’s indirect.

When you intentionally deny a group of people a service, product, or whatever based solely on their skin color, that is personal racism.