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Creepy Condescending Wonka Meme | SO, I'M SUPPOSED TO ALWAYS "BELIEVE WOMEN" WHEN THEY CLAIM THEY'VE BEEN SEXUALLY ASSAULTED BECAUSE THERE ARE A COUPLE OF FORMER DUKE LACROSS | image tagged in memes,creepy condescending wonka | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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SEXUAL ASSAULT ACCUSATIONS 2010-2018 VOLUME 1 | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Brace Yourselves X is Coming Meme | BRACE YOURSELVES ANOTHER ACCUSATION IS COMING | image tagged in memes,brace yourselves x is coming | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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I made it better ;)
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Prove you weren't in a general vicinity a few years ago with a few people who dispute your claim. You can't. That's why you can't PROVE innocence. That's why we have "innocent until proven guilty" in our justice system. Prove you weren't the one who murdered my dog 8 years ago and that he died of natural causes. That's why the burden of proof is on the plaintiff/accuser
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10 ups, 2 replies
Thank you. It is infuriating how many people don't get this.
I understand it's frustrating to know some rapist will slip through the cracks (but for the record, so do many thieves and murderers). Our system requires proof to prevent any person with a beef with you from ruining your life through a single unsubstantiated accusation. FYI, in the Salem witch trials, a single unsubstantiated accusation could get you sentenced to death, so it's not as though there's no record of such a thing happening on a large scale. To worry about abuse or mistakes in a "guilty until proven innocent" system is not a paranoid or unfounded fear.
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Dublin has a seeing Iustitia, aware of facts - but perhaps impressionable?

For a case in point, re-watch the Kavanaugh hearing.
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5 ups, 2 replies
Your cavalier tone is what's unsettling. I doubt you would have this attitude if someone close to you was r*ped and the perp walked free. We're not talking about murder and theft, although r*pe and murder often intersect. R*pe has very acute repercussions for the victim. The way the justice system is set up does more to ensure r*pists slip through the cracks than it does to protect women. Where are all the big strong republican men who can't fathom a trannie in the restroom around our poor defenseless daughters? But the thought of a 17 year old rich boy trying to r*pe a 15 yr old girl doesn't compute at all?
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And what of the thought that it's a lie? What if someone close to you (a brother, father, son) was FALSELY accused of a despicable crime like **pe? This is why we have laws, this is why we have innocent until proven guilty. This is why we have due process. If you want to believe everyone then just go to Salem and start burning witches at the stake
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Um, actually, I was molested by my uncle (full intercourse, I don't use the term **pe because it wasn't violent, but technically it was **pe). I understand the psychological effects rather well. I am suicidal most of the time and just try to push it to back of my brain. He was never charged, even though most of my family found out about it (years after the fact).
By that time, there was no physical evidence, and it was well known that I disliked him (although no one had known why). So there was no evidence and I had motive to lie. (In fact I still think much of my extended family don't believe me). It would have been impossible to convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt. So I did my best to move on.
I also had another friend falsely accused of **pe. I saw my friend (who had a drinking problem) hit on him and be sexually aggressive (I'd seen her behave this way many times, and didn't think much of it). But this time, after she sobered up she had a problem with the fact he was black.

I don't know if Kavanaugh tried to **pe her. She had motive to lie, and there was zero evidence (there were other reasons to not confirm Kavanaugh, but the **pe accusation was not it).

Also stop trying to connect issues that aren't. If you look at other threads, you'll see that I regularly say that as long as there are privacy stalls, I have no issue with people using the restroom of there choice (it does become a more complicated issue when we talk about locker rooms where genitals might be exposed. But even then my concern is not about possible **pe, but standards of modesty and whether or not girls have a reasonable expectation of being shielded from exposure to a point where ntact male p**is).
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This is going to sound stupid and lame but it's disturbed me since reading it last night. I didn't even read the rest of this thread. Words are inadequate and I'm not going to even try to pretend to use the right ones because there aren't any. I figure you already have, but so many that I've known haven't, so are you with any support groups or therapy? I know nothing can take your pain away, but I don't want you to want to die.
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Thank you. While I doubt I will ever not be depressed, I'm unlikely to make an attempt. I've actually researched methods, and know I'm more likely to damage myself permanantly (give myself a disability) than succeed in killing myself. I also know how much it would hurt my kids (as although if anything ever happens to them, all bets are off). It is also the reason that while I am strongly pro 2nd amendment, I have no intention of having a gun in my home. But I think I've wandered off topic into personal therapy.
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Sorry for taking this in that direction. I didn't mean to prod.

Again, can't find the words, all sounds like the usual platitudes... pat on the shoulder... then back to whining about how much my Starbuck's Venti costs.

Nothing like that, but I've had my issues to deal with, and considered it also. Same thing, I'd mess up and disable myself or hurt someone else by accident.
One time I came close, as in the next train that arrives at the platform, and while waiting, it hit me, why? To make the lives of those who screwed over me better? (This was after a bad session where the therapist didn't care when I told him I was thinking about it because we were out of time to discuss it! That's why I favor support groups over some bored cold jerk with better things to do.)

Anyway, don't want to make it about me now, just saying I hope you have people you can discuss it with and know you are not alone and that you matter to even annoying dingbats like myself.
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It is indeed difficult to find good words.

Here is an attempt, the lyrics of "The Answer Lies Within", as written by John Petrucci, et.al., in Dream Theater:

Look around
Where do you belong
Don't be afraid
You're not the only one

Don't let the day go by
Don't let it end
Don't let a day go by, in doubt
The Answer Lies Within

Life is short
So learn from your mistakes
And stand behind
The choices that you make

Face each day
With both eyes open wide
And try to give
Don't keep it all inside

Don't let the day go by
Don't let it end
Don't let a day go by, in doubt
The Answer Lies Within

You've got the future on your side
You gonna be fine now
I know whatever you decide
You're gonna shine

Don't let the day go by
Don't let it end
Don't let a day go by, in doubt
You're ready to begin

Don't let a day go by, in doubt
The Answer Lies Within
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No one's laughing about **pe. I challenge you to find someone who is "pro **pe", and I will say they would be castrated or killed. To say that someone won't lie about it for personal or political gain (or just being unstable) is just ignorant. No one is laughing about it. Grow up
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7 ups, 1 reply
It's also ignorant to say someone who's guilty of it won't lie to stay out of trouble or keep from losing that job, his reputation, his marriage, his livelihood, his friends, possibly his daughters... Why on earth would someone lie about their guilt?
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6 ups, 1 reply
I'm not saying someone wouldn't. That's why we have courts. And laws. And due process. And innocent until proven guilty. You molested my dog a few years ago. I don't remember what year or where. Prove your innocence. People lie.
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Yes, **pe is often difficult to prove. Also believing a woman, for the purpose of psychological support, is different from allowing her accusation to be used to ruin the life of a man who may be innocent.
I can also believe you were **ped and/or someone attempted to **pe you and believe it's possible for you to have misidentified the perpertrator.
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He's not just any man. He's a Supreme Court justice, whose vote will help decide the most important cases in our country. He should be impeccable. If he's guilty, we now have a serial rapist who's above the law, who has no respect for women or for Congress, and will be deciding on legislation that affects every male and female in the country. Not being on the Supreme Court at this point wouldn't ruin his life by any means. But having a rapist as SCOTUS could definitely ruin a lot of other people's.
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NO one will be impeccable if we believe everyone. Everyone trying to be appointed to any position will have someone try to fall on a political sword to obstruct. Even if this was a case of mistaken identity, Dianne Feinstein waited until the last minute, then used it for political gain. Even the impeccable are not immune to lies and smears.
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Incorrect. It's 8% of **pe accusation that are /provably/ false. 4% of **pe claims are provably true. There's no proof one way or the other on the other 88%, so they could just as easily all be false as they could all be true.

Additionally, the narrative feminists try to push is that all the perpetrators are men. What they don't want you to know is that many of those women were **ped by /other women/.
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And don’t forget Obama. The vomit inducing hypocrisy of the right and left is genuinely insulting
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0 ups, 2 replies
there's some priests that would love to meet them
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Idk about blaming the entire priesthood but.. did the molesters even get kicked out? I heard at least some of em simply got moved around.
Also it seems relevant that their response was regarding the OP, which is literally based on 1 incident.. (vs idk how many priests)
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Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/09/28/pope-francis-defrocks-chilean-priest-center-global-sex-abuse/ .
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FLDS puts the FUN back in Fundamentalist Latter Day Saints :P ... (TV show = "Sister" Wives).. dudes married to 4 women
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i'm confused by your comment: Why would some priests want to meet these former Lacrosse Players, who now are in their early to mid 30's?
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Maybe they will "convert" ..
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the priests were born in the 1930s
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In any case, Mr. Avenatti seems to believe Ms. Clifford/ Stormy.
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1. I expect a little thing called evidence, or at least one witness beyond the accuser. It's called the rule of law
2. Where the effort are these supossed statistics. I would bet money you are making that number up, which gives you no crediblity.
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1. Sworn testimony IS evidence. It is, of course, not enough to convict someone, but it is evidence nonetheless. And lying under oath is a crime, so people who falsely accuse are endangering themselves, which is why it doesn't happen very often.
2. No idea where they got the 99.99% stat, but here're some completely un-fun facts - https://www.nsvrc.org/statistics

These conversations make me lose my faith in humanity.
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Source: https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/09/29/christine-blasey-ford-hearing-sexual-assault-hotline-calls-skyrocket/1471409002/
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I don't know if you've noticed from her other comments, but LadyDeerHeart is the epitome of a misandrist radfem, the same kind as Big Red or Julie Bindel. There's no point engaging with her, she doesn't just drink the kool-aid, she /makes/ the kool-aid.
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Oh, dear . . . hate, like unfounded optimism around Kool-Aid, almost always means bad news.

Better make the best of it!

Source:
https://www.quora.com/What-do-the-phrases-Valar-Dohaeris-and-Valar-Morghulis-signify-in-Game-of-Thrones-Why-are-they-gaining-such-popularity
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https://www.quora.com/What-does-%E2%80%9Cdrinking-the-Kool-Aid%E2%80%9D-mean
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The reference to Jim Jones, et.al., was well taken and understood. Now, to inspect the useful information you provided (quote):

"The readiness of so may to follow Jone’s orders to drink the poisoned Kool Aid gave birth to the term “Drinking the Kool Aid”.
Today “Drinking the Kool Aid” means the unquestioning acceptance of something (usually involving politics)." (end quote)

What drove Jones' followers to drink the Kool-Aid voluntarily? It must have been some sort of mass suggestion, of the kind that Hitler exerted. Typical of this mass suggestion, is that those exposed to it may come to downplay risks that those not under the influence might be more aware of.

Or, to put it in more political terms: those under the influence, may display signs of unfounded optimism - the false belief that one's actions and involvement are most likely to have no serious repercussions.

Drinking the Kool-Aid obviously did have serious repercussions.

Spreading hate might also have serious repercussions.
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Do you even understand how our Justice system works? Yes, some rapists will slip through the cracks. Guess what, so do thieves and murderers. It is better than guilty until proven innocent. And if you think if you think that a guilty until proven innocent system wouldn't be prone to error or abuse, I'd like to refer you to the Salem witch trials. Just because an accusation is more plausable than witchcraft, does no make the accusation automatically true.
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Do you know how our justice system works? Lying under oath happens so much they should have everyone hooked up to a polygraph machine at all times, and that goes for witnesses, defense lawyers, prosecutors and judges, too. (And yes I know polygraphs aren't admissible but detectives still use and abuse them).
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At least you admit you don't think innocent until proven guilty should be a thing. You should move to Italy. They like to jail you then force you to prove that you didn't commit the crime afterwards. Same with the chinese.
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I have. And yes, I'm suicidal. But because I use my brain and logic, I know I need to be around for my kids. If I relied solely on my emotion, I would have killed myself s long time ago.
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Continued: there is no point in using statistics if you are you unwilling to try and comprehend what they actually mean. And I am not a bad person for not getting swept up in emotional hysteria. I differ to facts, not blind emotion.
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What exactly are you saying here?
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You don't know this user, or what they've been through. I understand that this is an emotive issue, and passions are high on both sides, but do you really want to do this - accuse this user of what you're accusing her of here, because of a difference of views? I think your comments here are way out of line.
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99.99% of men lie is NOT a verified statistic, from anywhere. Yes, the statistics involving **pe are depressing (but there can be arguements about what they mean. For instance, the 1 in 5 women has been "raped" statistic is an intentional misrepresentation. They counted any unwanted sexual attention such as verbal harassment and groping as **pe. Those things are inappropriate, but they are not **pe).
Also the attempt to imply I'm a rapist is pathetic. If you had even bothered to read the thread, you would no I am a female, and a victim of molestation.
However, I do not let my emotion on the issue override logic. The rule of law still applies, innocent until proven guilty, ect.
I think with my brain, not my frmale parts.
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