Dirty meme week...I tried.

F**ken funny man

Thanks

I agree there. However, one problem is that liberals are trying to extend this to high school and even middle school locker rooms, where being naked is normal. I read an article about a transgender high school student who was suing "her" school, because even though they allowed her to use the girls locker room, they expected her to change behind a curtain or otherwise cover up because the other girls were uncomfortable encountering an "intact male p**is". The trans girl likened it to body shaming.
I do think that genital exposure is a good criteria as to whether or not something is crossing the line on expectations of tolerance.

not "Trying to extend", the Public Face of the Bill is bathrooms, the Crux of Legislation from the Start has always been Locker Rooms

I'll give you that. My point was that if it did only apply to bathrooms with privacy stalls, I'm not sure we even be bothering with conversation as a society. Trans people have been using the bathroom of their choice for decades. But because they we're discreet and nobody had to encounter genitals from the opposite gender, nobody even noticed, much less cared.

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That's sort of the point of the meme though. In one situation, if a woman is exposed to a p**is that she doesn't want to see, we consider it a sexual assault and that she has been violated. In the other if a woman is exposed to a p**is she doesn't want to see, we are like "it's just a p**is, get over it."
But both can't be true. It is just a p**is, or is being exposed to a p**is that you don't want to see a violation. It cannot be both.
You are likely to argue intent, but I want to point out is that many crimes (including indecent exposure) do not require intent to be illegal. We must also consider why they are illegal. Because if a teenager is does not have a reasonable expectation to be protected from exposure to p**ises, why does an older, more mature, college student.

I also want to point out that even this site feels the need to protect us from even the word p**is.
Not really relevant, but amusing in the context of this discussion.

"I'm of the opinion that if an adult gets uncomfortable simply by seeing exposed genitals in a place where nudity is to be expected"
You said it: an adult. Not a high schooler or middle schooler.

Agreed , just agreed

And highschool locker rooms and showers where the same regulations are enforced?

That's exactly my point. Which is why they separate the sexes in different locker rooms

Well it does say if.

1. Let me know when there’s a rash of straight males “not transgender” men flashing little girls in the women’s restroom

Why? You looking for a date you perv? Or maybe afraid someone is moving in on your turf.

Not even a half assed red herring

Funny comment!

I think you worded that wrong. It sounds like you're okay with transgendered females flashing their p**ises at little girl. No p**ises should be flashed at little girls. The arguement here is privacy stalls prevent that.

You need a whole rash of them? One or two isn't enough?

You're still being transphobic. That's just not cool.

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What's not cool is to tell someone what they can and can't be on their own memes.

And by the way, someone who makes a meme that tries to show what our society considers the line between behavior that's tolerable and intolerable behavior, isn't necessarily "transphobic" or "phobic" of anything (if that's even a thing that matters).

If you're reading that into the meme, that's your problem, not his.

Oh. You're now defending that anti-trans douchebag? That's your problem. Not mine.

Mission accomplished.

Nowhere near as disturbing as the transphobia displayed by those who claim there are "97 genders".

I don't believe in more than two genders. I wouldn't really bash people in believing that, tho. :P

If you're aloud to believe in texts written in ancient books, then you're aloud to believe a Tumblr post. Both are texts with little or no proof.

I don't support or defend SJWs, tho. They're hypocritical and obnoxious. They tend to act fascist like, too. You know who else said he was liberal but in actuality is a blatant fascist? Adolf Hitler for f**k sake. Also Stalin. Not to mention the douchebag who rules North Korea.

Sorry. I went a bit off topic.

Anyways, transphobia of all types is equally disturbing and hateful. People are aloud to not feel comfortable in their own male or female bodies and do something about it.

Agreed.

Exactly. Their comfort should not be infringed upon, but likewise, their comfort should not infringe upon the comfort of others.

For example, from a story a couple of years ago, there was a trans-woman (ie born biologically male, and, iirc, not fully transitioned, meaning she still had a p**is) who had been abused and ended up in a woman's shelter. None of the cis women there wanted to share a room with her, for extremely obvious reasons. She set up a fuss and started calling them all transphobic, and wanted the shelter to force the women to accept sharing a room with her.

It should be noted that they weren't trying to have her ejected from the shelter, they had no real objection to her in the common areas, only that they didn't want to share a /private/ room with her for, I say again, obvious reasons. They weren't transphobic, they were /androphobic/, with valid reason. But she didn't care about their comfort, only about her own and the public attention and support she got from the SJW crowd.

The people claiming that separate sex and gender.

There are two biological sexes (for simplicity, not including intersex people and people with chromosome disorders like Klinefelter syndrome). Nobody is disputing this.

"Gender", in the sociological sense, is how you "act" male or female. This varies by culture. For example, some Native American tribes consider men enjoy "feminine" things like cooking to be a third gender.

The problem is they're conflating "gender" with "personality". In reality, they just want to feel special, because they've all been raised to believe "you're a special snowflake, unique in your own way", (which is where snowflake as a derogatory term came from) and they've suddenly gotten old enough to be hit in the face with the reality that they're no more special than anyone else, and they don't like it.

As for you mentioning intersex and Klinefelter's, those don't change the fact that there are only two genders. They're just genetic abnormalities, or disorders if one prefers, that create a mix of the two genders, they don't suddenly create a third gender.

I understand transgenderism, the ones I'm talking about, the ones who say there are more than 2 genders, are /not/ transgenders, they're "transtrenders". They claim that "gender is fluid", and "you can decide your own gender" (and that's what they're confusing with "personality), which completely goes against the transgender stance that they're born that way.

True transgenders don't just decide they were born into the wrong body, and they make every effort to transition into the opposite gender from which they were born, which implicitly means there are only two genders.

In fact, since leftists try to claim that "gender" and "sex" are different (they're not), I'm surprised they haven't moved to have the label "transgender" changed back to "transsexual". *Even though that's no longer in use, being considered a derogatory term).

And bad analogy. Combining black and white gives gray, which is a combination of the two original colors, but its function isn't changed, it still does the same thing, which is to change the color of whatever it's applied to.

Not to mention all three are technically not colors, they're all shades on the greyscale, and no matter how you mix in black or white, the resulting combination will be a mix of the two, it won't suddenly become an actual color.

Since we are sexually dimorphic as a species, the body not matching the brain makeup implies there are two settings for brains, and the fact that the body doesn't match the brain implies there's a genetic aberration, either in the brain or the body. Again, NOT a choice.

And no, purple is not entirely unique, it has visible elements of both red and blue in it, it is a combination of the two. The idea behind transtrenderism, though, is that purple can decide to identify as green if it wants.

How about looking at it in terms of mixed race children? (Tabling any argument over whether race is a "social construct".)

Children who are the product of a black parent and a white parent (which is actually the vast majority of North American black people) invariably identify as black. Why do they never identify as white? Are they not actually a new race entirely?

(We know why they rarely identify as mixed-blood, because both black and white people can be equally as bigoted when it comes to "halfbreeds".)

The brain CAN be the same way. I did say "and the fact that the body doesn't match the brain implies there's a genetic aberration, either in the brain or the body."

And fair enough, so neither of us can come up with a decent analogy.