Trump "allegedly" grabs (without permission) ... no one has been able to prove otherwise.
Clinton's escapades have become cliche for their sheer number and the way the media covers for him.
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"Allegedly"? He admitted it on tape; that's called a confession.
For any other president, cheating on his wife, having 15 women accuse you or sexual assault, and having sex with a porn star while married to a super model would be enough for you guys. What is it about Trump that makes you so ignorant and unwilling to step back?
There CAN'T be a trial. No report was ever filed. The FBI NEVER investigates a state level "crime." Ford still can’t recall basic details of what she says was the most traumatic event in her life. Not where the “assault” took place — she’s not sure whose house it was, or even what street it was on. Nor when — she’s not even sure of the year, let alone the day and month.
Ford’s not certain how old she was or what grade she was in when she says an older student violently molested her. (But she doesn’t plead inebriation: She described having just “one beer” at the party.) Ford concedes she told no one what happened to her at the time, not even her best friend or mother. That means she can rely on no contemporaneous witness to corroborate her story. Worse (for her), the four other people she identified as attending the party, including Kavanaugh, all deny knowledge of the gathering in question, including Leland Ingham Keyser, who she calls a “lifelong friend.”
Keyser’s lawyer told the Senate Judiciary Committee: “Simply put, Ms. Keyser does not know Mr. Kavanaugh and she has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with or without Dr. Ford.”
The other two potential witnesses — Mark Judge and Patrick “P.J.” Smyth — also deny any recollection of attending such a party. The committee took their sworn statements “under penalty of perjury.”
Her own immediate family doesn’t appear to be backing her up, either. Her mother, father and two siblings are all conspicuously absent from a letter of support released by a dozen relatives, mostly on her husband’s side of the family.
The letter attests to her honesty and integrity. Why didn’t her parents and brothers sign the letter?
Ford contends that notes her therapist took in 2012 corroborate her account. But they don’t mention Kavanaugh.
They also point up inconsistencies in her story. For instance, her shrink noted that Ford told her there were “four boys” in the bedroom, not two as she now says. The notes also indicate Ford said she was in her “late teens” when she was assaulted. But Ford now says she may have been only 15.
In another inconsistency, Ford told The Washington Post she was upset when Trump won in 2016, because Kavanaugh was mentioned as a Supreme Court pick. But Kavanaugh wasn’t added to Trump’s list of possibles until November 2017, a full year later.
So you're right if they DON'T have witnesses, and you're right if the DO.
Convenient.
No evidence. Six FBI investigations. Her story has changed so many times. Never mentioned him to her therapist.
You're just hoping to delay long enough to scuttle the process in the hopes that the Dems will win a couple extra Senate seats and then never confirm anyone ever again.
This was as predictable as the whole Roy Moore incident in Alabama ... never happened. Story full of holes.
Her story grows less believable every day. The more people that examine her responses the better it is for us all, right? If she's lying, do you still support her contention?
In her July 30 letter to Sen. Feinstein, Ford said, "The assault occurred in a suburban Maryland area home at a gathering that included me and 4 others."
In her Aug. 7th polygraph letter, she said, "There were 4 boys and a couple of girls."
Even if Ford counted herself in one account and not the other, there's no way to come to the same total number of people at the party. Feinstein letter would mean 5 people total. Polygraph letter would mean 6-7 people total (depending on if she counted herself or not).
You don't read the news much, huh? It was Romney that floated Kavanaugh in 2012 ... and she started preparing her story then. Too bad it's changed so much that she has zero credibility.
Yeah. I actually have a job that requires significant overseas travel. I get to see how other countries laugh at liberals and wonder why conservatives put up with them.
You don't read comments much, huh?
Try reading what I said instead of pretending otherwise for the sake of a fake altie bot argument. There are plenty here taking her word for it, go argue with them.
There are still zero facts to support either claim. Kavanaugh's ranting meltdown, however, did not inspire many to sympathize with him, or have you not read the news of why he wasn't confirmed last week?
Romney was never President, he was in no position to float anybody. That's stupid. You remember any other names he mentioned for other positions?
Ah, as I suspected (I know what I'm talking about), you DON'T read the news or else you'd already know about her preparation to oppose Romney if he was elected since Romney floated Kavanaugh. Sheesh ... you don't read comments OR the news.
From "The Hill":
If the FBI finds no corroboration of the charges, 60 percent believe that Kavanaugh should then be confirmed, according to a weekend Harvard CAPS/Harris poll of 1,330 registered voters. Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), feeling rather directly the corrosive split within the nation, has the support of the country in insisting upon a brief and limited FBI investigation before the final vote. Sixty-six percent of Americans support that decision, and that includes 80 percent of Democrats, 69 percent of independents but only 45 percent of Republicans. GOP voters were ready for a vote now, and overwhelmingly back the confirmation without further delay.
BUT once the voters are told that the named witnesses deny any knowledge of the allegation, this shifts to 57 percent who favor confirmation — and that goes up to 60 percent, if the FBI agrees there is no corroboration. Remember, because there is no specific “where” or “when” in Ford’s allegation, Kavanaugh cannot establish an alibi — and that’s why corroboration of other facts is so critical.(hard to establish an alibi when the accuser is too stupid to remember ANYTHING except that she drank a beer).
This was a typical Democrat hit job. They do this all the time while they excuse themselves from REAL incidents that had evidence.
"Yeah. I actually have a job that requires significant overseas travel. I get to see how other countries laugh at liberals and wonder why conservatives put up with them."
Course you do, chipmunk.
You get to see how other countries laugh at liberals and wonder why conservatives put up with them? Really? I spent three years arguing with foreign SJWs. Their conservos make our libos look like something out of the 19th Century. I'm presently in contact with more folks from overseas (most are Brits) than Americans (site had more of them). Nice try, tho.
- Oh, wait, you're talking about the Middle East, yes?
"Ah, as I suspected (I know what I'm talking about), you DON'T read the news or else you'd already know about her preparation to oppose Romney if he was elected since Romney floated Kavanaugh. Sheesh ... you don't read comments OR the news.
From "The Hill":
If the FBI finds no corroboration of the charges, 60 percent believe that Kavanaugh should then be confirmed, according to a weekend Harvard CAPS/Harris poll of 1,330 registered voters. Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), feeling rather directly the corrosive split within the nation, has the support of the country in insisting upon a brief and limited FBI investigation before the final vote. Sixty-six percent of Americans support that decision, and that includes 80 percent of Democrats, 69 percent of independents but only 45 percent of Republicans. GOP voters were ready for a vote now, and overwhelmingly back the confirmation without further delay.
BUT once the voters are told that the named witnesses deny any knowledge of the allegation, this shifts to 57 percent who favor confirmation — and that goes up to 60 percent, if the FBI agrees there is no corroboration. Remember, because there is no specific “where” or “when” in Ford’s allegation, Kavanaugh cannot establish an alibi — and that’s why corroboration of other facts is so critical.(hard to establish an alibi when the accuser is too stupid to remember ANYTHING except that she drank a beer).
This was a typical Democrat hit job. They do this all the time while they excuse themselves from REAL incidents that had evidence."
Of course I didn't read that. Did you read yesterday's NYTimes 40 pager on Trump? Did you read the Science Section too?
USA Today?
The Lubbington Township Gazzette?
I didn't even read your copypaste deflection now.
No need to "suspect" what I already told you.
You didn't fill me in on the rest of Romney's appointees, so enough of your party hack gaslighting. It's still stupid.
This aimless tripe bores me. I got other things to waste my time on.
Well, at least Democrats and women do not want an alleged sex offender on the SCOTUS. Some republicans too.
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They don't want a conservative on the bench. They've shown for decades now that they don't care what their own people do. No one wants a sexual predator on the bench. And there is nothing coming out that proves there is or is gonna be. It's just the Democratic party fulfilling it's promise to try everything possible to block this nomination.
Most people do not want him on the bench, re: FOX News and their poll.
"They've shown for decades now that they don't care what their own people do."
Wrong party, see meme, ask Donald Trump's fingers.
"No one wants a sexual predator on the bench."
Except Republicans like you and the rest here, as evidenced by their defense of him.
"And there is nothing coming out that proves there is or is gonna be. It's just the Democratic party fulfilling it's promise to try everything possible to block this nomination."
From John Boehner's "Our sole purpose is to make Obama a one term President" to six years of a do-nothing obstructionist Congress to the Mitch McConell Rule, did you really think the precendents laid by the illustrious GOP wouldn't be honored? The Democrats have kissed Republican ass for decades, and they are now showing it proper respect.
Deal with it.
During his incumbency for his second term? I am reading of allegations of an extra-marital affair by Gennifer Flowers with Arkansas Governor Clinton. Other allegations appear to come after his presidency started. The term "sex offender" does not seem to fit while infidelity seems to be accurate. If you remember something that will help me find indication of allegation against Candidate Bill Clinton, I'll look.
actually at this point I would love for there to be an investigation & trial, so if she's lying she can go to prison for falsely accusing someone. people need to learn there are consequences for this sort of thing. Goes for him too, if he's actually guilty. I doubt it, though.
depends on whether or not they could nail her with perjury, among other things. The problem with defamation lawsuits is honestly here in the states they're pretty ineffective. In say, many countries in Europe, slander is a pretty serious offense and they aggressively prosecute slanderers. That isn't even close to the case here in the States.
Avenatti receives anonymous tip:
"Avenatti replied: Mr. Davis, Thank you for your email. We are aware of significant evidence of multiple house parties in the Washington, D.C. area during the early 1980s during which Brett Kavanaugh, Mark Judge and others would participate in the targeting of women with alcohol/drugs in order to allow a “train” of men to subsequently gang **pe them. There are multiple witnesses that will corroborate these facts and each of them must be called to testify publicly."
Avenatti got trolled:
"A poster at 4chan made an unconfirmed claim Tuesday morning that he and his girlfriend punked porn star attorney and Trump antagonist Michael Avenatti. The two said they were behind Avenatti going public with an outrageously false story accusing Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh and his prep school classmate Mark Judge of plying women at school era parties with drugs and alcohol so they could be gang **ped by a “train” of men."
