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Philosoraptor Meme | How can we be expected to accept transgender people for what they are if they don't accept themselves for what they are? | image tagged in memes,philosoraptor,lgbt,transgender,questioning questionable logic | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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X, X Everywhere Meme | PEOPLE TRYING TO GET ATTENTION PEOPLE TRYING TO GET ATTENTION, EVERYWHERE | image tagged in memes,x,x everywhere,x x everywhere | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Grandma Finds The Internet Meme | TRANS--GEN-DER THEY SAY? LOOKS LIKE A F*G TO ME | image tagged in memes,grandma finds the internet | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Captain Picard Facepalm Meme | GRANDMA IS RIGHT YOU KNOW | image tagged in memes,captain picard facepalm | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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The fact that people are upvoting a meme comment that calls people f*gs is a sign of how pathetically low imgflip has sunk
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Brace Yourselves X is Coming Meme | BRACE YOURSELVES ARROGANCE HAS ENTERED THE BUILDING | image tagged in memes,brace yourselves x is coming | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Futurama Fry Meme | OR THAT THE NON INSANE ARE WINNING THE CULTURAL BATTLE AGAIN | image tagged in memes,futurama fry | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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I couldnt check the front page till i got home. Didnt want people thinking i was transphobic if they glanced at my screen and saw all these ignorant lunatics
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I took a break from imgflip, but now that I'm back, it looks a lot like the kind of trashy memes on ifunny.
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5 ups, 1 reply
So finding an offensive slur offensive makes me a "triggered liberal"? That really doesn't make a lot of sense. Would you call me a "triggered liberal" for being offended if someone called your mother a c**t?
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7 ups, 3 replies
For one thing, it is actually a clever meme, because I could see an old person who happens to be ornery saying exactly that. If you toned it down to "gay," it wouldn't be as funny precisely because part of the humor comes from the fact she's saying something more offensive than she realizes, as old people often do. It's all right, Melody. We know progressives have no sense of humor or wit beyond the boring limits they deem to be acceptable.
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I guess I got three million points on imgflip by not being very funny or having a sense of humor. Gosh darnit :/

Your explanation for that meme would make sense, in just about any other context. But coming from Natalie, as blackattack pointed out, it's only meant as vile and hateful. Like he said, that's all she's known for.
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Samantha Bee makes millions of actual dollars and is one of the least funny people I have ever seen in my life. By the amount you respond, it seems like half your points must come from comments you leave.
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:)
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Being liked or being likable isn't a prerequisite to being funny. You've thrown out a lot of generic labels I have heard lots of times, so they've lost a lot of meaning given that they have been overused and often misapplied. You may be right, you may be wrong. I'll find out for myself in due time. The meme was funny regardless.
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Go look at her memes. They're ALL political. And BORING. If not completely inappropriate.
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You're not "called." You ARE. And the evidence is a mountain of crappy memes. lol
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8 ups, 2 replies
Transgender people aren't just trying to get attention
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14 ups, 1 reply
Think about it.....
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;)
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Of course not, most of them don't want attention, but most of them have a mental disorder that needs to be addressed and pampering their delusions does nothing to address the root problem.

Instead of giving into their fantasies and in some cases, delusions, we need to help them overcome them. Plenty of psychiatric counseling is what is needed.
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9 ups, 2 replies
Why do they need counseling and psychiatric help if it doesn't negatively affect their life, but rather only bothers other people? That's like saying "I'm overweight, therefore you shouldn't eat junk food, because I don't like to watch you eat it."

By that rationale, if I don't like someone's religious beliefs, should they change them to accommodate my desires?
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Just an aside: psychiatric counseling is part of standard transgender treatment before any surgery comes into play.
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Transsexual treatment....
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6 ups, 2 replies
The idea that it doesn't affect their lives or anyone else's is the reason there are those (mostly on the left) who act like if someone doesn't accept their lifestyle it could only mean one thing...bigotry.

In a comment I made here on the same meme, I talked a little about the suicide rates between non trans people and the trans community. Someone said the reason the trans community has a high suicide rate is due to the fact that they're constantly bullied. I stated that isn't very likely. In the non trans community (the overwhelming majority of people) the suicide rate is not any higher than 5%,while the trans community it's near 50%. If the reason trans people were committing suicide because of bullying, the non trans people suicide rate wouldn't be as low as 5% and would be about the same rate.
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Those numbers seem to work against your argument. LGBT people face a high amount of mistreatment and bullying, possibly (I don't know if I can prove it) higher than non-LGBT people. So the high rate of bullying would seem to go hand in hand with higher rates of suicide and suicide attempts.
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It's the rate of people being bullied to those committing suicide.

Example: if 100 non trans people are being bullied and 100 trans people are being bullied, only about 1-5 non trans people being bullied out of 100 are committing suicide, while almost 50 innthe trans community are out of 100.
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Yeah, dude, transgender people commit suicide because of people like you who give them psychiatric counseling they don't need. That's called mistreatment, which is a direct cause of depression and anxiety, which can be a direct cause of suicide. By calling them mentally ill and saying that they're delusional just for being something that's different from you, you are indirectly bullying every transgender person on the planet. They don't need psychiatric counseling because it isn't a mental illness. They don't need to address a "root problem" because there is none.
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4 ups, 2 replies
They are mentally ill. And they do need counseling. You give in to their paranoia.
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Looking forward to your citation, Doctor.
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And your scientific evidence for this is where? Thinking that transgender people need counseling and that have a mental disorder isn't an opinion, you need scientific proof and studies that suggest that they are mentally ill.
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How obviously detached from reality does a person have to be before yall are willing to say "You are wrong. You are not x"? DON'T YOU DARE SAY HE IS UNWELL! HE IS A CAT! HE IS A DOG! etc etc
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People used to say a mixed bi-racial couple who wanted to get married and have children was delusional too...
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3 ups, 1 reply
You can't compare race and sexuality. It's not even close to being relevant.
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I'm comparing the ignorance and discrimination which is exactly the same...
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2 ups, 1 reply
No, it's not.
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Dates back to 2016. Also...this might be a repost as well.
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Very good meme
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Who decides then? You can't be both, right?
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So odd rare situtions mean what in the bigger picture? There's probably some kind of medically based measure. In any case we can't just make obviously false claims about our selves and others and expect everyone to just roll over. Yo I'm a goose. No feathers no webbed feet no bill 6 ft tall be u r a wicked fundamentalist hateful bigot if u question my self identification which I'm totally free to radically change at any time. You wanna live in ever nuttier loopyland boss? Do ya?
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And if they're really enlightened, they wait and let the child tell them what gender they are. That's your medically based measure.
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How is that a medically based measure?
And if little Taylor identifies as a literal pony you do what? If s/he identifies as a 21 year old do you go with that? Age is just a number they say. Anarchy is not enlightenment.
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That's a medical condition that affects less than 1% of the population and is in most cases easily remedied. Those that need counseling because of this problem, so be it, but having two parts isn't reason to give in to the delusions of those who wish to change sexes.
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It doesn't matter how little it happens. Transgender are a small fraction of the population too. If you're going to have criteria like this for deciding someone's gender it should apply to everyone. And how is it easily remedied in most cases? Who gets to decide?
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Trangenderism is problem of the mind. Not the same thing.
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Says who? You? Trump?
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Why don't they encourage them to have and be both, the idiots? Just to confom with our totally polar society? Don't people know that they are the future solution, the ultimate balance between male and female (in every respect) and the end of gender wars? Humanity, how stupid are you???
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That's the reason that there are two genders, Humanity. To populate the Earth, keep the race going. What happens when everyone switches teams? And how about the people who have both sets of equipment? Will they be able to create life?
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So you subscribe to limitless autonomous unquestionable self-definition? Regardless of any and every contrary indicator?
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Are you as young as you look in the pic lil fella? :-p
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I could be... or I could be as old as the woman... or as old as you....
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Not limitless, no. Autonomous? Somewhat.
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https://imgflip.com/i/1sy8bs So is the driver (unwittingly portrayed by the male human widely known as the rock) male or female? :D
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2 ups, 1 reply
Male
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Males can become pregnant and give birth. Wow. Or did you misunderstand something. I want to sure if you don't mind. Cuz misinderstandings happen.
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Are they no longer female?
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Of course not but that's not germane. Men can't give birth. The driver recently gave birth. Therefor the driver's claim to be male is invalid. Agree or disagree?
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Jermaine Dupri :3
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Sorry don't get it. Let's keep it simple. Did you agree or disagree?
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I'm talking about the overall topic. So it's about whether you have a uterus or can ejaculate sperm. That's the male / female gender criteria? And again I say, what if someone is born without a uterus? Or without a p**is? I don't care about the likelihood of this happening it happens more than you might think. What criteria does one use to decide gender then?
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Defining by rare deformity is a poor argument if it's even any argument at all. What is at most a tiny bit of fuzziness trumps literally billions of ppl throughout history having not the least problem knowing whether they are male or female. Huh. And why won't you answer agree or disagree in the specific scenario presented?
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Women with normal female reproductive ability can give birth within a certain age range etc. Men cannot give birth period. Clear?
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Defining women based on what though? Not all women can or will procreate, even those with "normal" reproductive ability...
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By definition women with normal reproductive ability can give birth. Obviously circumstances play into whether or not they will. Are you male or female? Are you confident that you will always be one or the other? Nonone necessarily knows for sure they won't look at their perfectly normal genitals one day and think heyyy that's a dick alrighty but man i feel like a woman! Riiiiight? (Cue shania twain song) There are various things tjat indicate maleness or femaleness. But chuck em all as potentially irrelevant brcause...ehat?
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Chromosomes determine sex, not your delusional mindset. Maybe sometimes I feel a bit like a woman. Doesn't make me a woman. Men don't become able to bear children just because you surgically remove privates and turn them inside out. Your chromosomes still say you're a male.
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Um, actually, while most xy individuals are male and most xx individuals are female, it does not always work that way. Fetal development depend on hormones in the womb. Typically the hormone pattern follows what chromosomal information would indicate, but that is not always the case.
Interesting to note: ALL human fetuses begin as female and may deferentiate to male during development.

My personal oppinion is that gender is irrelevant except for medical reasons (i.e. testicles vs. uterus) and personal preferences regarding personal romantic relationships (for instance, I would not date a female to male trans because I like dick, and most available surgeries will not give them working dicks).
People get hung up on labels because we accept gender sterotypes: that certain fashion and behavioral traits belong to a certain gender.
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Someone who's physically male can't become pregnant.
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The driver gave birth but you said he is male. Or did you assume for some reason the girl was not stating the truth when she said he gave birth? The driver recently gave birth and emphatically identifies as male. In light of this do you judge the driver to be male or female? Please indulge me here I do honestly want clarity. :D
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The driver is male. He did not give birth. I have never seen a physical male give birth.
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In the storyline the driver recently gave birth. Why r u not getting that? Go with that as a fact then decide if the driver's claim to be male is valid. I know the rock is male but that's irrelevant. And maybe get some serious sleep and a good meal first okay? I'm honestly getting a bit concerned.
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Just google the name, and surprise yourself.
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… I am neither called Thomas, nor Beatie. ;)
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How do we define "physically male?"
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And while we're at it how do we define human? Maybe i'm literally a pony and not just having a little honest fun with mlp. Neeeeigh! Hmmmm needs work. NEEEEEEIGH!!! Better. Are you seriously as confused as you seem or just arguing to argue or what? I'm not trying to be mean or anything but if you're that detached from reality it's quite concerning. :-(
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I think you're the one detached from reality. Or maybe you were just born in a particularly backward era. There are people who have disagreed with their gender designation since a very young age, since they were old enough to talk. Maybe people like Bruce Jenner take decades to admit it. But others have known it since day one. I can't speak for everyone. It doesn't matter what gender I am. Just trying to present another viewpoint into this highly ignorant and close-minded discussion.
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I suppose someone with male genitalia. That's not true 100% of the time, though. I'm using that as a general definition. If a transwoman is transitioning to female and still has male "parts", I wouldn't say they are fully male, because they are transitioning. It's not as black-and-white and many people want it to be.
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https://imgflip.com/i/1t684f Thanks again for reminding me.
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Ahhh thank you cuz you re_reminded me of something and thankfully i still have a submission left for today. I'll get back to you probably. :D
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7 ups, 2 replies
I know just enough to not feed other people's delusions.
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Well said. Thanks. :D
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3 ups, 1 reply
I don't believe being transgender is a delusion
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It is whether you believe it or not.
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Correct. And there's no virtue in knowing that to be the case but just lying down to be walked on by the irrationalists. So good for you not doing so.
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Do you? Are you afraid to say they are sadly full of wrongness?
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I trust u don't mind me having u say thank you. :D
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Guess I can't argue with that logic :)
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I trust that we can still be in some kind of healthy mlp fellowship. My tentative fringe ponyhood needs proper nurturing. I'm trusting you guys on that. So far so good. :D
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Of course :3
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HUG :D lol comment timer!! Fine I'll make my comment longer while I'm wating. Hey is ur screen name based on mlp characters?
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So Octavia Melody = one pony or two? *sigh* Here I go learning names! lol The herd has lured me in! LOL It surely will be a journey of true self-discovery. So I'm rather blindsided by it. So I used to mock mlp way back in the day etc etc. It is what it is. I see a fun means of expression and enjoying some cuteness, a bit of cheekiness, colorfulness. So why not? Yes why not? I feel better now. :D
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Octavia Melody is her full name :3
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Thought so. Just wanted to be sure and sometimes I forget Google exists. lol Thanks. :D
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#HardFact
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Nope. That is definitely not proven statistically. It is more than likely due to the mental problems they have and are not being properly treated.

What's interesting is that if you take straight, males and females who are not transgender who are being bullied, the suicide rate is somewhere in the range of 1-5% while the trans community is damn near 50%. You cannot tell me that there's a 40-45% difference between trans and non trans suicides from bullying.
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There's also a huge difference between being bullied because you're small or nerdy, or because you're pretty and the mean girls hate you, and being bullied for having the stigma from society at large that you're a birth defect or that you're the crazy one. If you believe in God then you believe we have a soul that can be separated from this body. Is it that big of a stretch to believe that your soul might be one gender and your physical body might be another? Or appear to be another? If we can have birth defects where someone is born with one green eye and one blue, or three nipples, why is it so hard to believe that someone can be born with the wrong parts?
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Bullying is bullying, whether it's because "you're small and nerdy" or because your sexuality isn't onnpar with the majority. It's all bullying. Trying to say it's different isn't really correct. There are levels of bullying, but it's all bullying.

God said "before you were created I knew you." God knew who we were before we were conceived and created us with our chromosomes the way He wanted us to be. Our chromosomes tell us who we are.

Some people think they're an animal but just because you think you are one doesn't make it so.
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Excellent point.
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Let's except child molesters too!
The possibilities are endless!!
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But we already except them.
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How bout the presence or absence of a dick? That seems to suffice for the vast majority. Is that not working for you?
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People are born with both parts all the time. What then? Who decides? The doctor? The parents? God certainly didn't choose. Who should be able to decide?
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Depends on if it will effect the quality of life of the baby, meaning if it can cause illness or death. The parents have the obligation to decide based on the well being of their child. If it does boil down to being a health concern for the baby, the doctor can only give their best medical advice on what could be done, but the decision is up to the parents. And who is to say that God didn't choose? Maybe he chose for the person to be born with both. Or maybe it has to do with that this condition was originally caused by sin, not that of the parents, but from the original sin. There was once a study that showed the possibility of another ozone layer surrounding the Earth that helped hold in a higher concentration of oxygen. This extra oxygen was capable of doing many things, including preventing diseases. It could be possible that if this ozone layer was destroyed and the higher percentage of oxygen in our air was lost, then it could cause genetic changes within us, causing people to be born with traits that God did not intend for us to have. I would have to get into the entire study to explain this all better, but I neither have the time nor is this the place to do it. But to say that God didn't choose just shows your complete lack of understanding the basics of what we do know about God.
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I trust you you don't mean all the time as in it's common. Cuz that would be rather counterfactual to say the least. You seem sort of eager to live in some sort of fog. Also it's easy enough to say God this or that without seriously thinking about what it means to be actual almighty God. The fundamental problem of humanity is rebellion against God and let me add that most ppl try to push God away by means of religion because most religions are false because only one is true etc But trying to deny something as fundamental as theism is generally tricky so some truth is at least superficially embraced and here we are in the world flooded with false religion including merely nominal versions of Christianity.
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If this is based on God, then what is he trying to say by giving someone both parts? It doesn't matter how often or rarely it happens. It happens! So if we base gender on the parts you're born with, which seems to be the major criteria offered in this thread, I would like to know what someone is expected to do in that situation, and who gets to decide? There have been cases where the parents decided at birth a hermaphrodite was a girl and the doctor lopped off the other appendage. Could they be said to be playing God?
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:)
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In all likelihood the child had a va**na and the appendage was nonfunctional. Arguing from what is at most a small fuzzy edge while being dismissive of well established normalcy recognized over the course of human history is not something to be respected. It smacks of rank hubris. Anf no they're not playing God. They are dealing with the rare situation in front of them. You seem committed to hyperautonomism to a somewhat breathtaking degree. God is God and has His reasons for allowing various situations. You are not even remotely God nor of course am I. I can't make you give up the anarchy to which you cling and at some point I'll probably just have to leave you to it.
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You do realize that Priests wrote the bible based on what they thought 'god' was?
A lot of bible stories are just plain wacky because Priests and such didn't know any better. Religion is just explaining natural phenomena. Science just happens to explain it better than religion.
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The thing is: science can't prove whether something is right or wrong from a moral point of view, so is it any wonder people turn to religion for moral guidance?
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I realize that i am tired and need a break and that it is dirt common for ppl to talk about the Bible while having no clue. *sigh* Science is awesome and a huuuge blessing. Misdefining science for philisophical purposes is not cool and happens a lot. Please consider (and this is not the fault of science itself) how often the theories about various things have changed. It wasn't very long ago that neurostasis gave way to its opposite neuroplasticity when it came to brain theory. We need to properly define science and remember that scientists are no less flawed human beings than the rest of us. Then can sniff grant money and cobble things together fraudulently to get it and eventually get caught etc etc If at some point we talk religion I will likely insist on beginning at the beginning. Maybe I'll track something down so I can provide a link to the dicussion i had but i'm just spent at the moment sorry.
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At one time it was well established normalcy to deny African-Americans many of the same rights transgenders are fighting for today....
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It used to be illegal for a biracial couple to get married and procreate. I'm betting a lot of these same arguments were tossed around back then too. Societal rules come and go. The ignorant either die off or become enlightened....
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In my book, they are heroes
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I give you an upvote for meme and I'm not a troll I believe black and white are equal but a born man/woman is a man/woman
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I never suspected you were a troll :3
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But you most likely would not have said this 50 years ago....
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+1
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Thanks guy.
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Lol
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rofl +1
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i.imgflip.com/1pmkta.gif (click to show)
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I...don't think you understand what transgender means.
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On July 27 2017 :D
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I actually read this entire thing. (I know, I know...too much time on my hands) It isn't complicated. You are what you're born as. Octavia's brain argument falls apart because male and female brains ARE different. Chemically. And then you can't solve the menstruation puzzle, O_M. You also can't deny that lesbian couples mimic male and female roles, as do gay male couples. They adopt masculine and feminine roles. WHY? Because you can't escape NATURAL. No matter how much you try. No matter how long you argue. No matter how loud you scream. And excuse me: BRUCE Jenner was an Olympic super athlete in the 70s and 80s. I'm pretty sure he wasn't thinking about dresses and pantyhose when he was winning gold medals. That was, and IS a man. Now he's just a weird, troubled man who admitted last year he might have made a mistake "transitioning" into a woman.
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I agree, Bruce is not a woman. He is a Eunuch.
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Bruce Jenner actually was thinking about being a woman back then....Did you see his hair?
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Hail Shitler.
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Yuri - the great - accurately predicted this shit 40 years ago.
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:)
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Great point
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Apache attack helicopters?
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Bro, by that logic a transgender would be considered a mistake, just like that can was...
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the onlly reason i' heard against is rha it's an aabomanarionto god. i GOd kkeeeps makein ghem
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Accept everything and logic be damned.
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I can't wait until a funny meme hits the front page.
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True that
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If a doctor removes your brain from your body, is it a male brain?

If you say no: okay, then a brain is gender neutral. You could put that brain in a female body and it would be a woman's brain, or put it in a male body and it's a male's brain. So gender has nothing to do with your brain, only your physical body. So if someone changes their body from male to female, it's all the same mentally.

If you say yes: okay, so a brain can be "wired" as a male brain or a female brain. So it would be possible, then, for someone with a physically male body to have a "female wired" brain, right? Now you're starting to get it.

If gender is only about genitals, then getting a sex change would change the person's gender. If it's about more than genitals, then your argument falls apart as well, because the mental and emotional factors have to be taken into consideration as well.

Got it? Awesome

Class dismissed.
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What's next… homework assignments? lol

Besides, if a doctor removes your brain — you die.
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First of all, my brain is not in my body, it is in my head. And since it came out of a head that is attached to a male body, it would be considered a male brain.
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Ah, the age-old concept of "context". Rather than viewing people in the context of their bodies, we are now told to view them not in light of what their body says they are, but in what they say they want to be.
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And if a body has to require extensive surgery to 'Change' into another sex, then it is not natural. And feeding their delusions isn't helping them.
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I think most transpeople accept themselves for what they are. They just don't make much of a show out of it.
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Actually, if people need to have expensive and extensive surgery to create the outward appearance that they are something that they are not, I would say that it is them who are not accepting.
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Are you against all plastic surgery? or just gender reassignment?
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First of all gender dysphoria is a real genuine diagnosis that surgery and hormone therapy helps to elevate. Second of all, some trans people even go through with either of those two procedures. Having a p**is or a va**na has no baring on one's sense of self and what they decide to do about it is none of your f**king business.
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If that's the case then we should all be forced to keep the parts we're born with. So in that respect, Kylie Jenner is just a big of an abomination as her father....
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What kind of paradox is it to claim it's "natural" to try and behave in a way "nature" clearly did not intend?
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... and that's a fact, Jack.
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Random crude and probably "offensive" rant because everyone is talking about transgender issues:
Unless you are going to f**k someone, their gender is irrelevant. (Depending on you personal tastes, it may still be irrelevant).
People can dress (fashion) and behave (personality) however they want regardless of they're "gender identification"
We are only even having this discussion because we are hung up on labels.
I don't see how being transgender should/could affect millitary service, since everyone is supposed to dress and behave exactly the same regardless of gender. Biological gender may be relevant because females have different needs than males (such as bleeding out their va**na every month and needing tampons, which could be problematic in a combat situation).
Since restrooms have privacy stalls, i don't care which restrooms people use.
The "bathroom **pe" arguement is stupid. A sign saying "no men" will be as effective against a rapist as a sign saying "no guns" would be against someone intent on commiting a mass shooting.
I think gender neutral pronouns are stupid. Anyone who gets truely offended at being accidentally mis-gendered for a second probably isn't confident with who they are anyhow.
Unless someone is trying to get you to f**k them, you should respect thier preferences as to what gender they identify as, even if you disagree, because truth be told, it doesnt affect you if a guy chooses to wear a dress and go by a feminine name.
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lol Can't you just be nice to people so they don't want to kill you and make an explosive show of how they feel about themselves? Medically it must be classified as a disorder. The thing is they aren't all disfuncional so they aren't a problem. If the brain is structured for one gender and the body is the structure of the opposite then you may as well let the person make their choice. I'm sure they are aware that their condition isn't "normal" so I can't say they are dillusional. A lot of sh*t in this comments section is a bit upsetting to read. While reading various parts I had more articulate responses to some things that did not make it into this comment.
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DOWNVOTED AND FLAGGED
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You, sir, may have given me a reason to dump atheism! :-)
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