Cabin the the woods

I give it maybe 6 months. Mamdani has to get settled in before he starts terrorizing the city.

And what happens if he does all the good stuff he said he would? Why would DJT send the national guard then? It’s not for crime it’s for fear

GOOD STUFF?????? Maybe you live there and have heard more about him than I have. But when he said he was going to take over the apartments and control the rent, that was enough to know his intention is to destroy. He's going to cause more damage than what happened on 9/11. I'm not saying he is going to kill anyone like what happened on 9/11 but as far as property destruction he's going to be worse.

The rich will pack up and leave and take their businesses with them because of Mamdani. When most of the jobs are gone then the government owned apartments will empty out because people need to work to survive.

NYC will become home to crack heads living in abandoned apartments.

The Jews will have to leave because Mamdani hates Jews. Muslims will move in by the droves and that's when Sharia law becomes the law of NYC, which is also why the Jews will have to leave. And after the Jews, will be the Christians. Because Muslims are commanded by Allah to kill the Jews and Christians.

He never said he hates Jews or Christians. And he couldn't make sharia law happen even if he wanted to. And again, he never said he wants to. You're making stuff up.

I saw the video where specifically spoke out against the Jews.

No, Mamdani has not "spoken out against the Jews"

Stop making stuff up.

I don't even like the guy, but that ain't an excuse to fabricate falsehoods.

Check out what Anti-Defamation League CEO Jonathan Greenblatt has to say about Mamdani and his hatred of Israel. Mamdani said that if Benjamin Netanyahu came into his city he would have him arrested.

Greenblatt is very concerned for the safety of Jews living in NYC and says he will do what ever it takes to keep them safe from Mamdani and the rise of antisemitism in NYC.

You can use any search engine you would like.

What worries me is the antisemitism that is one the rise in the left but even more so on the right. I had just assumed that most conservatives were like me and believe firmly that Israel has a right to exist as a nation. I don't hate Jews, I don't want any harm to come to them. The left is far more vocal about their antisemitism. You see them carrying anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian signs in all of their marches, rallies and riots they do on a daily basis.

The Bible gives very explicitly warnings to those who fight against the Jews.

Islam is a horrific religion that has as its basic tenant the death of all unbelievers/infidels and the Quran specifically calls out the "people of the book". "The book" is the Bible, the Quran calls for the death of all Jews and Christians. But it is much more adamant about killing Jews.

Most Muslims don't want to kill anyone and don't believe that part of Islam but enough do. The part that does is who I am concerned about. They will kill you and I without thinking twice about it. I don't want to die and I don't want you to die. Who am I going to argue with if some Muslim whack job murders you? 😱😀 I want to deny every single Islamacist every single on of their 72, 7 feet tall, transparent, virgins who turn back into virgins after sex. Because they're just too insane to believe crap like that.

▶️ "AdamSmithsInvisibleHand 22h, 3 replies

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The Jews will have to leave because Mamdani hates Jews. Muslims will move in by the droves and that's when Sharia law becomes the law of NYC, which is also why the Jews will have to leave. And after the Jews, will be the Christians. Because Muslims are commanded by Allah to kill the Jews and Christians."

▶️ " CzechyCheeseHappyHolidays 20h, 1 reply

He never said he hates Jews or Christians. And he couldn't make sharia law happen even if he wanted to. And again, he never said he wants to. You're making stuff up."

▶️ " AdamSmithsInvisibleHand 15h, 1 reply

I saw the video where specifically spoke out against the Jews."

▶️ "Modda 10h, 2 replies

No, Mamdani has not "spoken out against the Jews"

Stop making stuff up.

I don't even like the guy, but that ain't an excuse to fabricate falsehoods."

▶️ "AdamSmithsInvisibleHand 7h, 2 replies

I would post the video but you hate it when I post the video."

▶️ "Modda 7h, 1 reply

You can post the quote but you didn't because you can't because no such quote exists.

I already looked just in case. You made it up."

⬛ I did not ask for some ADL propaganda piece which has nothing to do with what we were discussing.

I asked for this quote you referred to that you saw on video that no one else on the planet has seen. I don't know if you're saving it for a an exclusive book deal or something like that in the future, but I'm curious as to what it said. I don't want to see a ADL or JDL video. I just want the quote. I want the quote of Mandami saying that he hates Jews like you said he did. I mean how long can a three-word quote be?

Of course Mamdani would arrest Netanyahu if he came to New York, it would be his civic duty to do so. He's a wanted criminal with an international warrant issued for his arrest by the International Criminal Court for war crimes and crimes against humanity.

Just kidding, he won't.

The rest of your post is JIDF fear mongering propaganda deflection that has nothing to do with Mamdani.

Mamdani is Muslim in name only. Secular at most, he's also half Hindu and basically does not practice Islam any further then shaking hands on the campaign trail. He shook a lot of other hands too, and he's not of those religions.

Mamdani's a big phony, much like a another famous New Yorker who is supposedly a devout Christian who can't get through first line of the Lord's Prayer without looking at President Obama for cues on how to move his lips.

I would post the video but you hate it when I post the video.

You can post the quote but you didn't because you can't because no such quote exists.

I already looked just in case. You made it up.

Bearing false witness and telling fabrications are both Top 10 sins.

Where did you look?

"I think that the NYPD and the IDF have had a relation for many years. A relationship that has meant tactics of oppression, crossing from one country to the other and has meant an increased surveillance and oppression of marginalized people where ever they may be" - Zohran Mamdani

"The boot of the NYPD is on your neck. It's been laced by the IDF" - Zohran Mamdani

So while he wasn't saying the Jews control everything he does believe the Jews control the NYPD.

The ADL has a very valid concern with Mamdani.

Mamdani also said this:
"The way that prisons are set up in our society, I would argue that they do not work, they do not make us safer. The instinct is to take that person, the source of that harm, the source of that issue, and then just throw them away. Put them in a cage and throw away the key."

He is opposed to sending criminals of any kind to prison.

He's going to make NYC worse than it was between 1975 and 1980 when crime rose 40%.

And to make matters worse, Mamdani calls himself a Democrat Socialist, the same label that Vladimir Lenin used to describe himself. It also means that he hasn't the slightest clue how the economy works. He hasn't the slightest clue how business works and he hates the free market, which by extension means he hates freedom.

He is still under the restrictions the U.S. Constitution puts on him so he want be able to do everything he wants to do.

He lied about his "aunt" not feeling save in NYC right after 9/11. Except she wasn't actually his aunt, she was his father's cousin. However, I'll give him a pass on that because I know enough about Mexican culture to know that if he was Mexican he would refer to his father's cousin as his aunt. I don't know if that is the same in Puerto Rican culture or not. My wife's cousin's daughter calls me tio.

However, his "aunt" wasn't even living in the United States when 9/11 happened. So I don't know why she said she didn't feel safe in NYC.

I don't care about these other quotes. They are not the quote that you're referring to that you said you saw on a video.

Of course the NYPD has contact with the IDF. They have contact with everybody. It's the NYPD. This is New York City. This is Planet Earth in a bottle.

I got 4 notifications from you now, none of them with the quote from Mamdani you claim you saw him just like the notifications I got from you earlier today.

So you can't. Got it.

You don't understand. Modda and I go way back. He's told me time and time that he never follows links that people post here. That is why I said what I did to him.

If you want to know what I am talking about look up what Jonathan Greenblatt, the CEO of the Anti Defamation League has to say about Zohran Mamdani.

Also, as a note to your name, Adam Smith was wrong. The "invisible hand" does not guide the market. That's just greed with a different name. His mistake is placing the cart before the horse. The invisible hand is only a retroactive rationalization of the market responding to a combination of greed and mutual interest that eventually gets capitalized if it indeed originates from someone pursuing self-interest. If that self-interest action or idea isn't adopted socially and empowered by the socialist concept of societal adoption, the idea fails economically anyway. Adam Smith was handedly wrong and we are watching it play out in real time with the increasing wealth gap and privatization of ideals and concepts that were once socialist ideas - like SOCIAL media being privatized.

Which is to say that Adam Smith's work is one of the most seminal works on how to enable capitalists to hijack socialist benefits and privatize them for the express purpose of getting wealthy and is trash.

What is the obsession with calling people greedy? Greed is one of a million motivations that drive the market. To say it is only greed is very myopic. But then that's Karl Marx in a nutshell. He lived in his own little world. He never worked a day in his pathetic life. He wouldn't know what motivates the market if it came right up and bit him. I guess he was too busy writing love poetry to Mephistopheles to ever examine how the business world actually works.

The "Invisible hand" was a concept that was first based on a moral society. In a moral society the free market takes care of itself. Bad businesses who produce garbage and/or treat their employees with contempt are not rewarded, they usually go out of business after a while.

But we haven't lived in a free market since the end of the 19th century. Once the government got involved with regulating and accepting kickbacks from businesses we became a corporatist economy. Many of the things modern Marxists point to as the free market (or capitalism as Marx called it) is not at all related to the free market.

But before you run around calling every business owner or CEO "greedy" perhaps you should talk to them. It is real easy to make assumptions about people you've never met.

Also, and this is very important, wealth is NOT finite. There is no X amount of wealth and certain people are hoarding all of it causing hardship on the poor. Wealth is infinite. It is created with the free exchange of goods. If someone is rich beyond their wildest dreams it has absolutely no effect on your life. If you are poor it is because you choose to be. I am not rich by any imagination and I know it is because I just do not want to put in the effort and risk to try to get rich.

Marx was a blithering idiot. Stop following his ideology. His ideology is directly responsible for 100 to 150 million innocent people being murdered. If you think that is a good thing then keep ripping on Smith and keep bowing to Marx.

Okay, let's start with first things first. "The Rubin Report" started as a progressive talk show and leans significantly right - so there is a bias for us to watch out for there. It doesn't mean they are "bad" or "lying" but it means we should make sure to avoid that bias and stay impartial. Some particular statements here that carry bias is that he is scoping down the term "aunt" when many people use the term for other tangential adults to their parents to mean only specifically his sister but, for instance, my children also call my wife's close friends "auntie" ____. Ignoring this is him intentionally ignoring this. The same is true with him saying "islamophobia" is a made-up term. Well, yeah, that's true, but to claim that from this perspective is pure bias because ALL words are made up. That doesn't make them in any sense invalid, or we wouldn't be able to speak with ANY words.

Now, to validate the claims that the NYPD and IDF work together:

https://forward.com/fast-forward/781165/idf-police-trainings-explained/

https://deadlyexchange.org/participant-profiles/

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/joint-us-israel-police-and-law-enforcement-training

https://jinsa.org/

https://gilee.gsu.edu/

https://www.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/

So, while you make the claim that he is claiming that the Jewish people CONTROL the NYPD, that's also a leap. Influence and control are not the same thing. Collaboration and cooperation are also not identical to control and to make those assumptions is a leap. Now, I did look up your quote there and it turns out that the quote you gave is not quite right. That's clear in the sources I gave above but also here: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/zohran-mamdani-bashes-the-cops-and-israel-in-wild-unearthed-video-when-the-boot-of-the-nypd-is-on-your-neck-it-s-been-laced-by-the-idf/ar-AA1PlI1I?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Your statement "There was oppression when slavery was legal and when the US committed genocide on the Native Americans. But that is a part of our history, meaning it doesn't happen anymore and also meaning with the end of all of that there is no oppression in the United States" is a scope fallacy. It presumes that those are the only forms of oppression when they, in fact, are not. Oppression can take the form of: Authoritarianism, Colonialism or neo-colonialism, state surveillance and digital oppression, legal discrimination, poverty and economic inequality, labor exploitation, debt colonialism, housing insecurity, etc.

About halfway through his show he shows video of Mamdani saying everything that I typed in my comment.

Rubin didn't make Mamdani say those things.

I know who Dave Rubin is. I've watched him for a few years. He used to be a part of the Young Turks and then realized how horrible they were and became more libertarian than conservative.

Also, I made a point to address the entirety of your comment. I'm happy to have the conversation and, if I'm wrong, I will absolutely pick up the new information. However, I will not remain inclined to do so with reductive statements like justifying a bias that naturally exists. All of the sources that I gave you ALSO have a bias. If you like, I can point those ones out too. Our job isn't to defend that bias. Everyone is biased. We are ALL influenced wittingly or not by the world around us and our sources of information. Our job is to read that bias OUT of the information - not to defend it. I'm not going to remain terribly interested in this conversation if it just turns into a conversation about "well my bias is better than yours" - I don't care. I do the work to try and read out my own bias too. I'm not telling you to give up something that I do not also willingly abandon.

I know you spoke more but I had to take care of stuff around the house so I didn't get to finish my comment.

So the full comment is:
“We have to make them hyper-local. We have to make clear that when the boot of the NYPD is on your neck, it’s been laced by the IDF. We have to make — not specifically that example all the time — just to say that for working class people who have very little time, who have so many stresses, who are under so many pressures, there isn’t much time for symbolism. We have to make it materially connected to their life.”

And then Mamdani tried to excuse it all by talking how the NYPD and IDF trained together. But NONE of that excuses the "the boot of the NYPD is on your neck, laced with the IDF. It is specifically the "boot on your neck" reference. That has nothing to do with training between the NYPD and IDF. That is a reference to authoritarian power over people.

The next article talked about "a secret program monitoring Muslim communities". Well, yeah. If the NYPD was learning counterterrorism tactics from the IDF then it would have to include keeping an eye on Muslims. In the Quran Allah commands Muslims to kill the unbeliever. In one passage it says to kill them even if you don't want to kill them. The Quran is specific about the "people of the book", Jews and Christians. Muslims are given the option to either kill the Jew or Christian or tax the crap out of them. Then in other places and in some of the hadiths they are commanded to exterminate every Jew on the planet.

Not all Muslims believe or even know about that. More than half don't believe that. But about 25% of all of Islam wants to fulfil that commandment from Allah and another 25% agree that the unbeliever must be killed. So half want us dead and the other half does not. So if you do not keep an eye on Muslims then your just an idiot. We don't know which ones want us dead and which ones would make great neighbors.

Well, that's enough for now. I'm getting tired.

Go ahead and drop them links. I'll go read.

I just posted these 2 quotes by Mamdani to Modda

"I think that the NYPD and the IDF have had a relation for many years. A relationship that has meant tactics of oppression, crossing from one country to the other and has meant an increased surveillance and oppression of marginalized people where ever they may be" - Zohran Mamdani

"The boot of the NYPD is on your neck. It's been laced by the IDF" - Zohran Mamdani

https://rumble.com/v70y32s-zohran-mamdani-forced-to-explain-why-he-lied-as-media-turns-on-him.html?e9s=src_v1_s%2Csrc_v1_s_o&sci=eb99842d-be56-4b82-bb56-e56256683507

He isn't saying the Jews control everything but he is saying the Jews control the NYPD. Which is just as absurd. Plus he laced his comment with the Marxists buzzword, "oppression". There is no oppression in the United States of America. There was oppression when slavery was legal and when the US committed genocide on the Native Americans. But that is a part of our history, meaning it doesn't happen anymore and also meaning with the end of all of that there is no oppression in the United States.

It also means the Jews are not oppressing anyone, with or without the NYPD.

I will say though, I learned about Adam Smith at the age of, I think, about 14? A band named Five Iron Frenzy included content about him in their song "Giants" and I was raised in a very conservative home so I was only allowed to listen to christian music and this qualified.

There is a part of the song where a little girl reads: This house is haunted by the ghost of Adam Smith, the wealth of nations, and the further death of innocence. To rule the world, the desire of evil men. The earth is shaking. There are giants in the land.

I didn't know what this meant then, so I looked into Adam Smith and realized that these lyrics were a critique of the outcomes of his line of thought because the idea that self interest is beneficial to society is only a carrot and boon for evil men who seek to intentionally manipulate this dynamic. I happen to agree but it seems some of us haven't progressed past the realizations of a 14 year old kid...

Mamdani never ever said anything about taking over apartments, ever. Nor could he.

He said about freezing the rent on rent stabilized apartments, which is around 1 million units, half of all apartments for rent.

Crackheads? Is that still a thing? Here? What century is this?

Jews are not going to leave New York. Good grief, and go where? To what? To be used for target practice in Red States in this political climate?

Stop making stuff up.

Half the apartments won't be able to adjust rent for inflation once the owner is losing money, they'll try to sell but will have to take a hefty loss. They'll leave the state for sure.

They'll be subsized, of course, if it actually was to happen, like landlords are for SCRIE and DRIE now.

We heard the same thing for my landlords 20 years ago when they suddenly started jacking up everybody's rent, that they weren't making money. Around this time they bought a mansion up in Westchester for $2.3 million. $2.3 million. And they were crying broke.

They've also built other buildings in the neighborhood, and the last time I passed through, which was last year, I saw an old building that they had bought also, their sign being on it.

Landlords can't make the same profits they make here by leaving to other states. They're not moving. This is not the 1960s when between White flight to the suburbs and poor folks moving into NYCHA housing left owners a ton of money-losing vacancies while economy took a downturn

So basically more taxpayer money that will raise taxes causing the rich to leave. Maybe he'll make it illegal for rich people to move out?

Your words don't match the facts. Rent control + inflation = no profit at some point. Unless they calculate a profit margin into the control (which they don't). Keep in mind inflation is 2% to 20% per month depending on circumstances. We're talking 1 to 2 years before the owners are upside down. Subsidies will force raising taxes. Mamdani already said he's going to tax the rich. They'll leave (like Elon movingto Texas). He'll be forced to tax everyone. We've seen Taxifornia.

I only post facts. You don't even know what SCRIE and DREI are, nor Rent Control and Rent Stabilized Apartments. Save your argument for someone who supports him.

But no, nobody is ditching the most expensive real estate in America. Probably the world.
That's like somebody's throwing out their gold because the rate of inflation hasn't gone down under Tump like he promised.

There's still time to get out before it's too late.

No there isn't.
I not only do not have a car, I do not have a driver's license. Since I can't afford rents here, I am going to become homeless. Which is basically a death sentence for me because I wouldn't last.

Take a bus, train, airplane, bicycle, walk. Anything. Do not become homeless. Fight with whatever you have to not become homeless. You do not have to live in the Bronx. There are lots of affordable places to live in this country. You might not like those places.... oh wait.. you live in NYC. You'll love all of those places. Don't come to Utah. We used to be one of the most affordable states to live in but that has changed.

I'm moving to Alabama when I retire because property is far less expensive than most of the other states and a whole lot less expensive than Utah. I was an idiot and never saved up for retirement. I will have to live on social security so that is why we're moving to 'Bama when I retire.

I can't just hop on a Greyhound, head to Tennessee, and then walk around looking for an apartment. Even if I went looking through apartment classifieds, good chance they're bogus, and no matter what, it would be a one way trip for me to go with no money for hotel rooms and whatnot which means I am not going anywhere because I can't afford to even take a trip to check the place out.

Wait for it...

The right will look for things that went wrong and blame mamdani. The left will spin everything they can and praise mamdani, the 14% of the registered voters will never admit to making a mistake and the vast majority of the nonvoters will blame everything on the small percentage that did vote.

Considering Trump literally threatened to withdraw federal funding from the entire state of New York if Mamdani won, that’s actually a very reasonable conclusion to have.

What’s funny is that the CNN and the mainstream media as a whole will likely use this exact spin if that ever happens.

Trump isn't doing that to punish NYC, he's doing that to spare us, the ones who would have to foot Mamdani's bill.

I don't want to see U.S. tax dollars thrown down the black hole that NYC voters just created for themselves. I worked hard for that money.

It's not Trump's fault that NYC voters are all morons. Of course that is not how the left is going to spin it. It's always gotta be Trump's fault. If the milk in your refrigerator goes off, it's Trump's fault. If it rains on your son's little league baseball game, it's Trump's fault. If you trip and fall, it's because Trump pushed you.

I suppose you think that the stalemate in the Senate is Trump's fault also. Just because the Democrats in the Senate are all pricks who value illegal immigrants over US citizens they caused a government shut down.

Now that shut down has lasted long enough to adversely affect the economy. If we have an economic melt down because the Democrats won't do what is right for this country (for once) then the media will spin it as Trump's fault. And Democrats will just believe that. It won't ever occur to them that this shutdown is happening 100% in the Senate. There is absolutely nothing that Trump can do because the executive branch has no power over the legislative branch and vice versa.

If Trump was a king he could've ended the shutdown before it even happened. But Trump's not a king.

There are no US tax dollars thrown at New York City. New York City not only gives far far more than we get back, we fund the etc states of the United States of America, and just so happen to be the economic engine that not just keeps the US going, but the entire planet.

Gerald Ford. Duck Duck Goosgle.