Kirk went up against some very smart liberals but when your foundation is all lies, you cannot debate the truth

And that is just 2 out of a whole lot more of those "geniuses". The left is full of these people who cannot stand reality.

Yeah... and not one of them would ever dare to debate Kirk...

They don't debate anyone. When's the last time you saw AOC or Crockett or Omar debate someone? They never debate - they just spew out whatever talking points are put on their paper in front of them.

Their politicians. Politicians don't debate anyway

That's what I just said lol. We have found a common ground Czech Cheese. We both understand that politicians don't do a lot of debating.

You're one step closer to leaving behind Democrat/Socialist/Marxist ideals

I'm not a Marxist anyway

Good Marxists aren't cool.

Which is a sad truth. We used to ensure every level of public official would hold debates - such that voters could make informed decisions about how they will exercise their right to vote.

Now a days we don't do that quite as much - instead of a debate, we put politician up in front of a group of like minded individuals who ask questions & the like minded individual asking the question just gets their belief reaffirmed. They don't get the chance to hear views and opinions from the other side of the aisle.

So both R and D voters end up going to the ballot box believing they are absolutely correct in their thinking - never having experienced what someone from the opposite party thinks of a topic.

The end result is polarized individuals who end up seeing opposing views as the enemy, when the reality is that what they want and the other side wants often align in Desired Outcome - but have vastly different mechanisms to get to that Desired Outcome.

And any 'legit' debates end up being three ring circuses and/or one giant pissing match between major candidates.

Yep! Except when Trump is in a Primary Debate. He just mops the floor with the candidates.

"They're eating the dogs!" and "You're being very rude!" are a couple of my favorites. He don't need to go full on to expose his opponent's flaws either.

Usually they do that on their own & then act like nobody noticed. Trump noticed lmao

I'm not saying politicians cannot debate. I'm just saying that's not their main job.

Definitely not their main job - but it should be part of the hiring practices. Politicians don't get up and debate the issues the people bring up anymore prior to elections, except for Presidential & Vice Presidential candidates.

They don’t do that because the left cannot agree to disagree and the Rinos didnt want to get dirty.

I leftists politicians don’t debate. Their policies don’t work and increase suffering and they can’t even defend them in open debate.

Leftist politicians are virtually non-existent.

😂 the entire Democrat party are leftists. Their political class are most certainly leftists aas exemplified by embracing Commie ideals.

That's like saying the entire Republican party is Mitt Romney.

The real reason there isn't a Democrat version of Charlie Kirk (besides that one dude Dean) is that Democrats get dunked on by folks like me. I'm nowhere on Kirk's level, but totally Dunk in political debate on this site. All the fun politics posters do on the regular and we are just normal every day people.

If we can have a Dunk session on the regular - Democrats don't have a chance. So nobody will ever try to be Democrat Kirk.

You're absolutely right. Not only that it is very very very hard to argue when the foundation for all of your claims are based on some fantasy world. You just can't argue from a false premise.

Except for that one dude Dean. He's very Shapiro in fast talk & fact based like Kirk

I'm not familiar with him. Is Dean his first or last name? I'll look him up. I would actually like to see a leftie who can actually present their ideas as well as Shapiro.

Bill Maher used to be the Democrats hero but then the Democrats moved to far to the left for him and he never moved. Now Dems don't like as much. But Maher still suffers from trying to make an argument from a week position. That is why so much of what he says is just insult. That's the Saul Alinsky way.

I wonder if Maher will actually have to finally throw out the leftist crap when he realizes it is not viable. Joe Rogan seemed to have.

I've only seen him a few times but every time he's like some little genius goblin wizard

There are a whole bunch of liberals, leftists, Democrats, and other lefties (besides just Dean) who have been absolutely destroying on YouTube and TikTok debates... Destiny, Sam Seder, Parker, Jimmy Snow, RTP Talks, TomFooleryShow, Isaiah, and even Picklesggs have been going in on MAGA dummies all year. That has basically replaced my imgflip time. I mean memes are cool or whatever but eh..

Also as far as CK the vast majority of people Kirk ever "dunked on" were random college freshmen... so I hate to break it to you but idk how much interest there is in anyone on the left trying to be "a Democrat version of Charlie Kirk".... Unless you still consider yourself a Democrat. Maybe just you. Lol

Kirk's whole thing was reaching youth, so that makes sense. The folks coming to him are coming with what they've learned in mostly public schooling & university -- so dunking on a lot of folks with similar opinions that are a product of their educational systems is pretty impressive, because he was breaking the mold of mindless socialist ideal driven drones.

Not saying it doesn't make sense for him politically to try and convert the youth.

I'm saying dunking on random students walking around about culture war issues (which idk if schools actually teach about?) when they probably have little to no debate experience just doesn't seem that impressive to me.

Also I tend to assume the pool of his dunk clips is most likely biased in his favor. Because if any of those college kids did dunk on him, it would not make sense for him to post the clip. Maybe he posted long form videos of the entire events though.. not sure.

They'd be destroyed by their own side for daring to go against the narrative.

You nailed that one. Absolutely truth.

You beat me to it. Completely true.

Sooo ironic that anyone on the right would dare say that considering life long Republicans are cast aside for not being lockstep with trump. 😂

but that's why i like ya tone, you a good egg.

Two things conservatives hate

Lmao nope. Reasoning & objective facts belong to the Conservatives these days.

Example: XX XY chromosomes. Conservatives will tell you factually these mean Male and Female. Democrats will argue that gender is a state of mind.

1,000 years from now - when archaeologists are digging up civilization from 2025 & they find Transgender Skeletons, the DNA analysis will prove that the Transgender Individuals are either XX or XY. Male or Female. Not the genders the Transgender individuals expressed for themselves.

That's called an objective fact. Something Democrats have a hard time accepting.

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