Can’t have it both ways

My source is a court of law.

You know.... Law. As in... "Law and Order". Remember that little slogan? 😂

Wrong. The only police officer who was a casualty died of a heart attack as proven by an autopsy. The only homicide was an unarmed woman

The policeman youre talking about, Brian Sicknik, had a heart attack the day after getting pepper sprayed on Jan 6th.

Julian Khater, the person who pepper sprayed him, was found guilty and got sentenced to 6 years in prison.

Or to put it another way: The Capitol policeman was attacked... with a weapon.... Pepper spray. (Possibly one of the ones stolen from the police by Peter Schwartz)

You pointing out that Officer Sicknick died of a heart attack does not disprove that the police were attacked by trumpers armed with weapons.

Now not ALL of them had weapons, or attacked police, or broke into the Capitol... but some clearly did. And it has been proven in court.

My gosh.

It's amazing how quickly the right flipped on the police.

Trumpers clearly attacked them.... some using weapons... and the right is like nope! FBI! BLM! ANTIFA! Guided tour! Completely unarmed! Political PrisonersSsSs! 🙄

I guess next up will be the judges... the "BaNaNa RePuBLiC" judges sent completely "innocent" men to jail!!!

With Trump's indictments it will be the same thing, if he is found guilty.

̶i̶n̶n̶o̶c̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶u̶n̶t̶i̶l̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶v̶e̶n̶ ̶g̶u̶i̶l̶t̶y̶ ̶
innocent even if proven guilty.

Bullshit

It's been proven in a court of law.

(See my other post below for a couple sources.)

And those are just a few of the J6 criminals that they caught red handed.

Anyway I would say that they might not ALL have been armed. But some clearly were.. with various weapons.... including guns.

Nope. The majority of gun armed people were Capitol Police. Only person shot? A person engaged in a riot and trespassing. Where are all the gun charges in the 1000+ people who were arrested in some form ? There aren't but TWO gun charges... Oddly enough. You would think a group attempting insurrection would bring more than 3 total guns.

Me: Some people there were clearly armed with weapons... including guns.

You: Nope. 2 people there were caught with guns.

🙄

"You would think a group attempting insurrection would bring more than 3 total guns."

True. And I would also think that the amount of guns and other weapons caught by the vastly outnumbered police was probably not the total amount that made it to the Capitol.

That'd be like assuming the drugs they catch at the border are the total amount of drugs coming across.

Some...when there were roughly 12 to 13 hundred people is very misleading and paints a much worse picture than the actuality of it. Only 2 people were armed with 3 guns. That Is factual - according to the arrests records - which were mostly for trespassing. Mostly there is also not misleading because 1000+ of the estimated 1100 people who were arrested -- were arrested for trespassing.

We can clearly also say that most of the people involved in the trespassing and riot... Were in fact, not armed with Guns, or there would have been reports of more guns.

So when we have roughly 1400 people show up, 1100 or so arrested for trespassing, and only 2 non-police entities had guns... I think we can clearly state that the people weren't there for Insurrection. If they were involved in an insurrection, they would have been charged accordingly with the crime of insurrection and brought more guns.

Hardly any guns and they got arrested for trespassing... Means there wasn't an insurrection

OP: They were "unarmed tourists".

Me: They weren't tourists and some of them were armed with weapons... including guns.

Of these^ 2 claims I don't see how you can sit there complaining about mine being the misleading one. 🤔

These aren't accusations, or heresay, or charges.. this has been proven in a court of law. At least one of them tased a cop. There is video of them beating a cop with a flagpole. Many policemen were injured. "Seditious conspiracy" vs "Insurrection" potato potáto..

Did ALL or even MOST of them go there and beat up policemen and try to Stop the 'Steal' aka pressure / convince Mike Pence to "do what he should have done" aka not certify the electoral votes... ? Idk. Probably not. Most of em were a bunch of disorganized idiots.

But some of them were more organized... and some had caches of guns stashed around the Capitol. Prior to that people here were talking about it referencing "1776" ( the insurrection against the British).

Try to see it from a different pov.
Imagine if BLM stood for "Burn and Loot Macy's"... because someone famous said Macy's was racist. A thousand people who supported the movement protested outside surrounding Macy's... a few hundred of the thousand people who showed up ended up going inside through windows that other people in the group broke, some of them beat up security guards, and some of them were found guilty of assault, assault with a weapon, conspiracy to commit arson, and attempted theft. Maybe 2 people were caught there with matches and gasoline. In a hotel not too far away they found a stash of more gas cans and matches. One of the supporter's truck was found nearby with molotov cocktails.

Then later they turned around and were like...... nah... nah bro.... BLM wasn't there to burn and loot Macy's. They were just there to go shopping. Only 2 people there were caught with matches and gasoline.

If these were democrats supporting Biden, illegal immigrants, ISIS, BLM, or anyone other than trump supporters, I think you and many other people here's rhetoric would be completely different.

What do you mean??? Imagine if it stood for Burn and Loot Macy's.... I don't have to marry their acronym up to a retailer. BLM DID Loot and Burn things down because of a perception of Racism. I don't have to imagine it. I watched it on the news. Just like I watched Jan 6th on the news. I literally was able to compare and contrast the entire situations. One lasted less than a day and the other lasted months on months.

I then watched as the news, the water cooler talk, memes, and celebrities all talked about how the whole thing was "mostly peaceful" -- literally calling it mostly peaceful as fires raged behind the reporter. I also remember Trump mentioning that they carry cans of soup to use as blunt instruments for destruction -- and the news/celebrities/memes mentioned how silly it was and people were just holding on to food to feed their families.... And then the video clips of people and soup surfaced and that entire narrative crumbled too.

Getting back to your point... When someone says the crowd were "unarmed tourists" - while factually inaccurate is a LOT more accurate to the situation than "mostly peaceful" was to the BLM riots. Why? Because BLM bused people in, delivered materials via Uhaul style box trucks, and did that with the INTENTION to riot and plunder their target geographical locations. It's literally what they showed up to do.

The Jan 6th crowd showed up to show civil discourse to perceived election theft. They didn't show up with the intent on taking over the government. There's no way they planned that because we can see by the arrest records that only three guns were on two people. Make shift poles, low grade tasers, and bear spray are a great way to show civil discourse -- heck, it's even a great recipe for a RIOT ... But there's not a chance in hell that they were there to take over the government.

The entire point of the OP meme is show how they weren't there for Insurrection. According to Biden you would need F16s and Nuclear Weapons. Did the crowd have those? Nope...they did not. According to Biden, with regard to how you would have to be armed to take over the government... No body was armed that way. That's the meaning of the meme.

I vaguely remember that. What made it sound absurd to me was that I think t
he said "bags of soup"...? And it might have been the same one where he said "you can't throw a brick... it's too heavy".. which I would be happy to disprove for him. Lol

You missed the point. Stop the Steal was literally named Stop the Steal. BLM was not literally named Burn and Loot anything. You can talk about what you think Stop the Steal was there for but you're kind of asking me and everyone else to ignore their stated name.

But ok you get the basic analogy beyond that. So here we go.

The majority of BLM protests were peaceful and unarmed...therefore they all were peaceful and unarmed. Saying anything different is misleading. The only violence and looting was ANTIFA and other opportunists none of which was actually part of BLM... and govt false flag operations. Anyone can hold a BLM sign. Oh and also... the people who went to jail for those violent actions are actually just innocent political prisoners arrested by corrupt cops. And sure... they were found guilty of CONSPIRACY aka INTENTION and planning.... but that was by right wing judges under Trump's banana republic. The entire point of all the BLM protests was civil discourse against perceived racism and police brutality. Any evidence showing otherwise was planted.

Some of this I actually do believe^, and some is just arguments similar to the right's because it is so easy.

Anyways.. I'm not sure what you think "seditious conspiracy" and "obstructing government proceedings" means but it rhymes with insurrection.

And that argument about Biden's F-16 quote is bogus and I think you know it.

He was clearly talking about "taking over the government" as in: taking over the entire govt on a random Tuesday and trying to declare yourself president.....which would most likely take considerable firepower.....

Clearly different than "taking over the government" as in: pressuring VP Pence at the Capitol on the day of the vote count to "do the right thing" and enable the former president who lost to be re-elected.......which could theoretically require ZERO firepower.

Nah - it couldn't. Biden clearly said you would need guns and nuclear weapons.

"You could argue three of them were there for that, insurrectionists -- if they fired their guns... Which they did not. I may be wrong maybe they did. If so, those three yes."

I don't really need to argue anything, and no, technically they didn't need to fire a single shot. These people already have been found guilty of seditious conspiracy (aka planning to Stop the 'Steal' and carrying out actions to that aim ) in a court of law.

Me and your discussion about it makes no difference. When the history books are written it won't say anything remotely close to "guided tour" or describe them as being "completely unarmed".

It won't be as insurrectionists either.

You're free to think that Joe Biden was talking about "taking over the government" (in the specific Jan 6th type of way) in an effort to try and defend those J6 criminals if you want to.

Maybe when they ask for an appeal or whatever they can use the "B-B-Biden said F-16's!!" defense... I somehow doubt it will stick but hey.

They WONT need that defense because the majority of them were arrested for Trespassing... Which holds a small fine and or Jail Time that's minimal. What most would consider "a slap on the wrist".

How many arrests were specifically for Insurrection? I'll give you a hint... You're not going to find many.

"Only a minority of them" doesn't matter.

If 1,500 Muslims were protesting and 800 were found guilty of charges ranging from tresspassing, to assaulting police officers, to other felonies... and 3 were found guilty of conspiracy to blow up a building... nobody would say "well only 3 people were found guilty specifically of that, therefore it wasn't an attempted terrorist attack."

If we are splitting ideas on something as big as Insurrection, yes. For example Jihad terrorism, verses civil discourse over ideology and government intrusion on religious belief.

I would view there three bomby types as jihad terrorists types against their government. Declair them jihadists if they blew them up. The others would simply be a mob at a riot.

Just like Jan 6th. The group en masse wasn't there to insurrect anything. You could argue three of them were there for that, insurrectionists -- if they fired their guns... Which they did not. I may be wrong maybe they did. If so, those three yes.

This might be difficult for you to hear but they are already talking about describing Jan 6th as an "insurrection" in textbooks

I'd bet money they will also include stuff about trump's election LIES inspiring it.

I do not believe they came armed with the intent of overthrowing the government.

I do believe they had less than lethal defense items in their possession for self protection in the event they were assaulted by counter protesters.

There were instances of court testimony stating the same.

Further basis for this opinion:

Despite being beaten with batons, sprayed with chemical substances, fired on with rubber bullets, and one protester being shot to death, none of the protesters in possessions of firearms during the event threatened anyone with a firearm, displayed a firearm, brandished a firearm, or discharged a firearm.

What started as a peaceable assembly with the intention of seeking a redress of grievances prior to the certification, which would likely nullify their complaint if sought after, devolved into a non fiery, mostly peaceful protest.

You're free to believe whatever you want. They've been found guilty.

Sure... they didn't want to "overthrow the government".........
...they just wanted to Stop the 'Steal' !
😜

"none of the protesters in possessions of firearms during the event displayed a firearm"

?How can you know that?

Off duty DEA agent Ibrahim was photographed there flashing his gun and badge.. (He ended up getting fired from the agency).

Thank you for permission to believe whatever I want.

How I know that is by virtue of the fact that no one was charged with brandishing or discharging a firearm.

Your example of one federal agent "flashing" his gun and badge is not the same as brandishing, threatening with, or discharging a firearm.

Thank you again for confirming at least one federal agent was working the crowd.

I didn't read the attached propaganda piece.

I immediately discounted the article as soon as I saw "justice.gov" at the top.

Now it is my turn to be king:

I hereby decree that you are free to believe whatever you want.*

*as long as you agree with me.

Armed with what?

Bear spray and make shift poles LMAO

Flagpoles, pepper spray (some of which was actually stolen from a policeman after someone threw a chair at them), a chair 😜 , a hatchet, baseball bats, molotov cocktails, guns, a makeshift gallows and whatever else.

And to be clear im not saying ALL of them were armed... but some clearly had weapons and other items that got used as weapons... against police.

I understand one of the first officers down was a female police officer who got hit by a bike rack. Is a bike rack a weapon? Not really... until you get hit with a bike rack. 🤕

I agree that nothing is a weapon until a human being makes the decision to use it as one.​

You are neglecting my premise that the less than lethal weapons the demonstrators had with them were intended for use against counter protesters they anticipated would also be in attendance.

I had not even mentioned the agents provocateurs that I believe set things in motion.

Purportedly, no one, not even the FBI, knows where the gallows came from.

No Molotov cocktails or hatchets were used.

I believe one demonstrator allegedly had jars containing a liquid with holes in the lids in his or her car, far from the Capitol.

I have already conceded that the peaceful assembly to petition the government for a redress of grievances was escalated into a non-fiery, mostly peaceful protest.

That's been repeatedly debunked. Oh and the Leftist-controlled D.C. police FIRED into the peacefully protesting crowd . . . which was caught on film.

Debunked? It was proven in court.

I saw the footage where Babbitt got shot trying to go into the barricaded area inside the Capitol. Was that what youre talking about? If not, let's see it.

"Leftist-controlled D.C. police"
Source?

They didn't fail... They weren't trying to do anything but make a civil discourse point. Nobody there was trying to take over the government. You can't fail at something when you don't have an end goal. Nobody in the riot crowd had any plans -- except for civil discourse.

Civil discourse point? The only civil thing about this funky bunch is at the end of the month when their mothers finally gets to wash their soiled undies.

At least they have a parent to fall back on. I wonder how many Dads saw their kids for the first time in the BLM Riots videos?

True.

Trump as well.

Things could have gone far worse than they did. For trump supporters themselves and everyone else.

Luckily for as screwy as Mike Pence is , to his credit he did not choose to do what trump and his supporters wanted.

It still totally mystifies me. Like, for what?

Trump is so over-the-top phony that he doesn't even actually qualify to be a charlatan, it's just too overt. Technically you can't even exactly really call him a liar because he's pretty much openly honest about the fact that he's lying, and badly too, while he's at it.

If there was an ounce of wit about him, he would seem like a caricature, satire. But he's just a blithering buffoon who's too stupid to try to pass it off as anything else other than the uhinged rantings of a gelatinous bowl of monkey poo suffering the ill effects of the genetic distillation brought about by the multi-generation-spanning breeding of those coming from a 'shared stock.'

It's a ferkin cartoon. None of this is real.

That's your standard line.

Are you upset your tactics are being turned against you?

Because it sounds like you are upset.

You are upset.

Seems there is always a chip on your shoulder.

Why?

Which part of addressing your claim is being upset?

Have fun.

I haven't read one insult directed towards you personally or your family.

Why are you presenting yourself as a victim of something that has not happened?

^ Me trying to scroll back through my comments to try and find my ✅️ reply to insults
😂

Your comment I was replying to says it was deleted so I reply here:

I do not stalk you at all.

As for the rest; meh.

I did not call you a liar.

I did state that I had not read one personal insult directed towards you or your family in the thread in which we were/are commenting.

Why waste time on injustice collecting?

When confronted with such, one must have the ability to say to his or her self, "I do not believe that I am a butthole wart" and move on.

I would more find myself wondering what the hell my nemesis' search history must look like. 😄

Have you considered the reason you are being personally insulted so much could be from something you are doing or not doing?

Not pointing the finger at you, simply offering up the possibility as food for thought.

Maybe you dont stalk me hard enough? Lol

If you would like more examples, let me know.

People seem to not be able to stick to politics....... It happens often enough that I have a stock reply that makes it like a game:

" ✅️ receive daily insult on imgflip politics. "

This^ is also useful as a mark to scroll back through my comments in my profile and locate comments where someone was talking sh*t, just in case someone such as yourself tries to call me a liar.

Unfortunately I have noticed many of the comments I have marked that way have been deleted, so maybe the mods have caught wind... That is NOT my intention and I have not flagged any of these people.... I rarely even downvote. I painted over names and timestamps in the meme above^ to try and prevent anyone from getting into trouble with the mods.

One conversation I had someone here called me a moron and they then tried to defend it by saying "it's not actually an insult... because it's true"... 🙄

Another prominent/current user here in one of my first interactions with them sent me a picture of an actual butthole with warts. They said I'm the wart. Then they sent a bunch of pictures of gay men.

To be fair the insults seem to be less often than daily now......... but on the other hand, I'm also not on here daily anymore.

I do not stalk you at all.

As for the rest; meh.

I did not call you a liar.

I did state that I had not read one personal insult directed towards you or your family in the thread in which we were/are commenting.

Why waste time on injustice collecting?

When confronted with such, one must have the ability to say to his or her self, "I do not believe that I am a butthole wart" and move on.

I would more find myself wondering what the hell my nemesis' search history must look like. 😄

Have you considered the reason you are being personally insulted so much could be from something you are doing or not doing?

Not pointing the finger at you, simply offering up the possibility as food for thought.

The "not stalking me hard enough" comment was just a joke based on you claiming to have "not read one insult directed at me".

(I didn't know that you meant solely within this thread of comments.)

"Why are you presenting yourself as a victim of something that has not happened?" ..."I did not call you a liar."

Again.. I didn't know you were talking specifically about this comment thread.

As far as marking ✅️ or as you put it "injustice collecting"..... I just find it interesting. Some of these people claim to be Christians! 😬 Lol

"Have you considered the reason you are being personally insulted so much could be from something you are doing or not doing?"

1. By "insulting me personally" I mean they're saying something bad.. about me...... Not that I'm taking it personally. I guess "insulting me" already means it is directed at me, so saying it like that is a bit redundant and unnecessarily wordy. Or to put it another way its literally redundant. 😜

2. Absolutely. These arent happening in a vaccuum. They're literally responses TO me.

And I can't say for sure (because I'm not the other person) but I think it is possible that me challenging ideas that some people hold as akin to "rock solid truths"... that their identity might be at least partially based on..... might be offensive to them? Idk.

Or maybe they just flat out hate democrats...?

Or are paid to "hate democrats" online ...?

Or any combination of those... ?

Or something in their own lives?

I always try to not resort to name calling though so if you were thinking its a "you started it" kind of thing idk about that.

Speaking of which, someone else here (in this thread) claimed I have "personally insulted" people (somewhere?)... I'm still waiting on examples. If they are serious, I would like to see context and try to do better.

Here's some more stuff^ people here have said about me.

And idk if "dorko" or sometimes "Dork-O" counts..? It's a pretty weak insult but there's been various iterations of that.

Also "libtard"... (I think we all know what that references... ) I've been called that however many times.

None of this demonstrates the fact that no insult was directed at you in this thread at the time I posted my comment.

Delete that stuff instead of hoarding it and dwelling on it.

That's how you victimize yourself.

Why would you want to do that?

"....in this thread at the time I posted my comment"

I said it was a classic response. I didn't say that literally every comment to me includes an insult directed at me.

You seem to think I am hurt by it..?
I'm not..this is the internet. For all I know the "people" here are bots..... And no I won't be deleting it. Isn't the right supposed to be the ones into NOT deleting "offensive history".....?
😂

The GDP...meh.

If the vast majority was not more prosperous prior to Biden's term in office, they sure thought they were.

Democrats, Independents, and Republicans alike.

As for baby murder, the majority of states have not outlawed the practice and permit the murders specifically in the first few months.

So what is any murder advocate going on about?

Abortion murder is not illegal.

Human nature leads to conflict, yes.

Do you spend more time conversing with people that agree with you or those that do not and why?

I believe I know your answer...it is the same answer for everyone. The only difference is the individual's motive.

Oh yeah...almost forgot, in what way(s) would no guns laws be madness?

You have piqued my curiosity.

"If the vast majority was not more prosperous prior to Biden's term in office, they sure thought they were."

Well... I guess perception is a powerful thing. And trump does seem to be pretty good at selling a lie. I would bet $ there are people to this day who still believe Obama is not a citizen based on the 8 years of "birtherism" bs.

You can talk about "states rights" and the first few months being permitted but when you refer to it as "baby murder" it is pretty clear the end goal is a nationwide ban. I recently heard something about them even going after the pill now.

Survival can breed savagery. Rogan has a somewhat interesting idea that we may have been like... reset...(possibly multiple times) (morally and technologically) by natural disasters throughout history.

As far as political conversations... the vast majority of my political conversing I do is here... so I guess most of it is with people I disagree with. If I wanted to add to add extra echo to an echo chamber I'd be in P2.

A gun is a device that makes killing incredibly easy for just about anyone to kill anyone. An 8 year old child could somewhat easily kill a grown man. Should a kid be allowed to legally walk to the corner and sell another kid a gun and ammo? I don't think so.

You don't appreciate paying less taxes?

I do.

You are anti-life aka pro baby murder?

I am not.

You advocate removing statues?

I fail to see the purpose.

You love them freebie programs?

I am not against them, to an extent.

You believe the virus just spontaneously existed?

I do not.

You believe the "vax" is safe and effective?

I know that it is not. Not think or believe - know.

You scoff at replacement theory and advocate CRT and unfettered immigration?

I am not convinced of replacement as theorized, CRT is nonsense, unfettered immigration is dangerous in many ways.

You are pro a-z?

I have no issue with the LGB, just the rest of the alphabet hijackers.

You believe MO has a va**na?

I do not think about his/her genitals.

You do not believe the border is wide open?

I do not believe the border is properly controlled/secured/defended.

You do not want less gun laws?

I do not want any gun laws.

You desire undefined regulation?

I wish to be as unregulated (free) as can be. Unless you are speaking about regulations on industry dumping toxins in the waterways/water supply.

You believe Biden/democrats are great?

I do not agree.

You believe the vision of politics that I see is your vision's greatest enemy?

I believe we will eventually agree on more than you can imagine.

Time will tell the tale.

Am I hardcore conservative or just a regular feller with a mind of his own?

(I already know the answer to that question.)

Seems like you checked almost every box. I basically check every one on the opposite.

Looking at the most recent example of tax cuts primarily for the rich / trickle down economics....... a large chunk of trump's tax cuts didn't trickle down, they got reinvested into corporate stock buybacks. And they didn't increase GDP anywhere near what was advertised.

The vast majority of abortions happen within a few months.. as a man I don't think it's right to just tell a woman shes having a baby like it or not. I also think outlawing it would cause societal problems.

Outside public confederate statues yes. They lost the war... put em in a museum. That flag is the same.

Some people need the "freebie programs". Maybe their bootstraps busted off.

It could've been made in that lab.... Idk about China or us purposely releasing it to enable us to control people or whatever.

Biden has been jabbed at least 5 times with and he's still alive. As far as effectiveness, last vaxx data I've seen the unvaccinated are still disproportionately dying from covid. I don't think that's a coincidence.

It makes sense people who are afraid of being replaced wouldn't want more immigrants or CRT.

As far as LGBTQ idk how they expect to enforce bathrooms. And if the drag queens are just reading and aren't molesting the kids I mean.. who cares. The only questable thing I'd say is sports... boxing for example.

I think Michelle Obama is a biological woman, yes. First they said Barack "wasn't a citizen" and now this. 🙄

I wonder how much the "wide open border" rhetoric is contributing to the perception and reality of the border issues. Physically the wall itself is the same when trump left... if not slightly longer.

No gun laws would be madness.

I dont want the govt literally controlling businesses but some corporate regulation I think is good.

I believe there is a lot of fake news about both Biden and the democrats. And I think the way I view biden and the way much of the right views trump are pretty different.

I believe we might eventually agree on some stuff but humans always find something to fight about.

Perception? Nah.

You can't lie to people about what is in their pockets.

I've called it baby murder for much longer than you imagine.

I have never attended a march or protest.

Never stood outside of a clinic shouting at doctors, nurses, or those seeking murder for hire.

Why can't the advocates of the practice just acknowledge that it is murder?

Does that make them feel bad to say?

Call it what it is.

The population of black americans has always been stagnant at about 15%, except for a brief period here and there of +/- a few %.

Baby murder played no small role in that.

Isaac Asimov wrote a trilogy on that very thing...humans must move to a new planet and reestablish by making habitable a "dead" planet in a manner similar to primitive and biblical creation stories.

Correct - entering the echo chamber is dull and boring.

P2? I thought it was PU? 🤔

An eight year old selling guns and ammo is far fetched but I reckon it could happen.

That would fall within the realm of parental responsibility.

An eight year old should have known how to handle and care for a gun for at least a couple few years already.

And yes, a gun makes all men equal.

The real problem is that people can't take an ass whoopin anymore. Or being teased, made fun of, bullied.

If being called, oh...something like a butt wart makes you feel humiliated to the point of plotting murder, you have issues greater than the availability of guns.

I ain't got no fear of everyone having guns.

I would be worried if I did not.

Is every one on a level field if no one has a gun?

*OR*

Is everyone on a level field if everyone has a gun?

My answers would be no and then yes.

No guns creates an environment in which the stronger men can take or do whatever they wish, treat you however they like.

"You can't lie to people about what is in their pockets".

If ≈80% of America was living paycheck to paycheck under trump, and under Biden there were 20% less people living that way, but MORE people felt "less prosperous".. apparently you CAN.

Wouldn't make me feel bad to call it murder. I just don't see it as murder. Sure it is technically "life" but they're not exactly human. They haven't been born, depending on stage of development they might be a clump of cells, consciousness is debatable, and so on. Generally I put people above animals but I tend to think it's more wrong morally to put down unwanted otherwise healthy animals in the pound than to abort a 6 week old fetus. You probably disagree but idk.

And if true about your statistics in the black american community, it's unfortunate that living situations or employment make it harder to choose to give birth more often.

"That would fall within the realm of parental responsibility."

Maybe I'm just not an optimist but I will never count on or expect other random people in society to be or to become responsible parents... regarding guns or anything else. This ties back into my stance on abortion.

As far as leveling the playing field, no one is ever equal. Muscles, brains, guns, body armor, etc. Whoever has the most money would theoretically have the best guns and protection.

And as far as a society of guns vs no guns.. put that concept in schools. Which schools would have more deaths? Kids are just not responsible..just like some parents.
No gun laws, why have any laws?

I do not know what the "right" is into.

I know what I am into.

I am into confronting nonsense.

Name calling, butthole warts, etc, hinders debate.

I am sure receiving gay porn did not give you cause to suddenly start seeing things your opponents way.

I am reminded of a quote from Wm Blake that can be paraphrased to suit your topic:

"The Vision of Christ that thou dost see

Is my Vision’s Greatest Enemy"

I could easily argue either side of any issue on which I have an opinion.

How so?

Because I have debated the issue internally in order to form my opinion.

This why I am difficult to sway.

Very few issues have a side that totally lacks merit.

Even your side 😄

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You don't know what the right is into??
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come on brooo.... It's like you're in the ocean and don't know what water is. Look around.

Generally speaking off the top of my head...

• tax cuts (usually for the rich)
aka "trickle down economics"

• anti-choice aka pro-life

• not removing confederate statues
aka not "erasing our histr'y"

• cutting foodstamps, welfare, obamacare, social security, etc..

• "plandemic" type stuff

• vaxx skepticism

• great replacement theory
(ties into anti-CRT and immigration)

• anti LGBTQ
(drag story hour, books, bathrooms, maybe marriage not so much anymore... although there were those on the left who were against it as well)

• jokes (are they still jokes?) about Michelle Obama allegedly having a p*nis

• describing the border as "wide open"

• less gun laws

• less regulation

• BidenManBad / democrats= bad

And basically vice versa for the left... possibly except the border (idk if the left describes the border as the opposite .. "shut down".) But immigration policy could be better.

Ya idk where the imgflipper was going with the gay stuff.. I remember joking about him having quite a collection.
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Nice quote. Idk if i would say I debate issues internally but I do try and fact check myself... maybe potato/ potáto.

Cancel culturitis!

Only a few people have done any personal insulting. You are one of them.

Really?

I do try to not resort to just flat out sh*t talking / name calling with people (even if it is initiated by the other person).... but it IS a struggle...

Anyway feel free to point out any examples of me personally insulting you or anyone else so I can try and do better.

Where? When? Why?

Correct. Those trailer park rejects tried, and like everything else in their lives, failed.

Sorry about the delay, but I do have a job and a life outside of memes

only civil thing about this funky bunch is at the end of the month when their mothers finally gets to wash their soiled undies.

Major insulting there, Leftie

and get a timer for...... something unknown.

Sad that some people fervently believe in free speech as long as it is agreeable, follows a certain narrative, and is not spoken, written, or otherwise expressed by someone else.

That is awl two calmin'. Lol

Roger that

48 for insulting a listed group of named convicted child raping pederasts! wOw

Have fun out there!