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let's just get the facts out there | JAN 6 WASN'T AN INSURRECTION; 3 AM NOVEMBER 4 WAS | image tagged in jan 6th | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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6 ups, 11mo
Third World Skeptical Kid Meme | SO YOU EXPECT ME TO BELIEVE BIDEN GAINED 250K VOTES IN A HOUR AND TRUMP DID NOT GO UP AT ALL? | image tagged in memes,third world skeptical kid | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
4 ups, 11mo
They can't handle the FACTS...

"Michael Waller, a senior analyst for strategy at the Center for Security Policy specializing in propaganda, political warfare, psychological warfare, and subversion, said he was at the Capitol on January 6 and witnessed:

-- Plainclothes militants. Militant, aggressive men in Donald Trump and MAGA gear at a front police line at the base of the temporary presidential inaugural platform;
-- Agents-provocateurs. Scattered groups of men exhorting the marchers to gather closely and tightly toward the center of the outside of the Capitol building and prevent them from leaving;
-- Fake Trump protesters. A few young men wearing Trump or MAGA hats backward and who did not fit in with the rest of the crowd in terms of their actions and demeanor, whom I presumed to be Antifa or other leftist agitators; and
-- Disciplined, uniformed column of attackers. A column of organized, disciplined men, wearing similar but not identical camouflage uniforms and black gear, some with helmets and GoPro cameras or wearing subdued Punisher skull patches.

Antifa terrorists also infiltrated the Capitol protest.

Trump supporters were blamed for all of the violence and chaos at the Capitol on January 6, but according to a former FBI agent, Antifa terrorists infiltrated the Trump rally.

Via investigative reporter Paul Sperry: Former FBI agent on the ground at the U.S. Capitol just texted me and confirmed that at least 1 “busload” of Antifa thugs infiltrated peaceful Trump demonstrators as part of a false Trump flag ops"
3 ups, 11mo
This Morgan Freeman | THIS IS A GREAT POINT | image tagged in this morgan freeman | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
2 ups, 11mo
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Funny to know Trump's margin was larger.
3 ups, 11mo,
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It's amazing how they ignore the Bureau of Census stating a record turnout... roughly 64% voted...

Why is that amazing? Well the vote count, the media said Biden got 81 Million and Trump 75 Million votes... or about 156 Million votes total... and the total number of registered voters is 168 Million...

so the math doesn't add up...

OOPS
2 ups, 11mo
Not only did the CIA overdo their additional numbers for Biden, no one on the Left, or even Right, for that matter, has yet to explain how after 24 hrs / 7 days a week for 4 years, the media had a constant onslaught of hatred against Trump and how did Trump GAIN 5 million voters?!?!
2 ups, 11mo,
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All registered voters are citizens 18 years and older.... but not all citizens 18 years and older are registered voters. Both would have different percentages.

I'm pretty sure I've already explained this^ to you so it kinda seems like you're either incredibly forgetful or you're just being intentionally deceptive.
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I know. The real question is like... why....?

Why would anyone repeatedly attempt to make a case that the election was "stolen" based on specific "evidence" that someone has already pointed out was faulty?
2 ups, 11mo,
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That's what intentionally spreading disinformation is.
1 up, 11mo
Ok but like... what is the motivation?

Pure BDS?
1 up, 11mo,
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Yes... I see percentages are hard to calculate....
0 ups, 11mo
Nah... Percentages are relatively simple math.

Figuring out what words and percentages mean is slightly more difficult.

Even more tricky is figuring out the motivation behind them.
3 ups, 11mo
Yup... they needed to stop everything so they could figure out the amount of fraudulent ballots to roll out for Biden...
1 up, 11mo,
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I’m so f**king angry
0 ups, 11mo
NoOoOoOo!!
😂
4 ups, 11mo,
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Bullshit.
4 ups, 11mo,
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If this "coincidence" had put Trump over the top you lefties would have torched the country.
2 ups, 11mo,
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And how does that make us better than lefties if we do what they would supposedly do?
4 ups, 11mo,
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Did I miss the Trump supporters 120 days of rioting?
3 ups, 11mo,
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So the January 6th riot only counts if it lasts for more than a day, I see.

Still wondering when was the last time liberals stormed the capital in the last two “stolen” elections.
4 ups, 11mo,
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Dec. 19, 2023, pro-Palestinian protestors occupied the Capitol Rotunda.

You won't hear about all the other times protestors have forced their way into the capitol, because it's not anti-Trump. You see, the left controlled media doesn't care what laws are broken or what riots take place for issues they're in favor of, because to them, the ends justify the means.

That's your lying media for you. A lie of omission is a lie nonetheless.

And I guess state buildings don't count (because it's not anti-Trump) as violence and destruction as much as federal buildings do, because BLM and AntiF(irst)A(mendment) protestors rioted and looted and destroyed those buildings.
2 ups, 11mo
I meant prior to Trump’s stop the steal. It seems that January 6th has set the precedent. So, if you believe January 6th was fair play, which is ludicrous, then you can’t quite say any demonstrations similar to it are just as bad or worse without admitting January 6th was wrong on at least some level.

Media lying is one thing. Don’t trust it.

When a group of people backed and protected by political figures, no matter which side, is far more insidious.

People lead by representatives, representatives should not lead the people.

That’s the whole point of a representative government, or what is known as a republic.
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1 up, 11mo
Ashli Babbit was murdered by a cowardly cop. End of Story...

No shooting investigation... it was a whitewash by the corrupt Biden DOJ.
2 ups, 11mo,
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2 ups, 11mo
Yeah, I was making a comment once and superimposed his image, then figured it was worth keeping blank to use again, so made it a temp first.
3 ups, 11mo,
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Groups of lefties have stormed the capitol several times in the last year. They even disrupted votes, yet it seems lefties just are protesting while righties insurrect.
1 up, 11mo,
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And prior to January 6th, 2021?

If you think there was nothing wrong with what maga did on January 6th, how can you condemn lefties for doing much of the same?

It just doesn’t add up. Prior to January 6th, I would’ve been much more supportive of at least some of the Maga movement. Until they became so radicalized by easily disprovable lies told within their own echo chambers.

Maga has been right about a few things. Covid being used as a political tool to influence the election? Very true!

It isolated groups of people and further compartmentalized people into both good and bad data. Bad data that was quick to come up, and extinguished by fact; but largely ignored by those who refused to do the further reading on both sides. The difference came from which group who had the better data or hung on to the bad data.

So when some Republicans representatives began fighting so heavily against any voting alternatives it divided whom was how these groups would vote. And while there is at least some concern or issues with opening up mail-in voting to the public, it would’ve gone better if our politicians actually worked together to safeguard our votes no matter the format. Instead, we drew lines in the sand and format was chosen almost by party line and gave Republicans representatives some benefit of the doubt among their constituents instead of actually trying to figure out who won, the game plan was always to delay as they had been slowly losing the numbers and influence overall by federal and state governments.

Covid gave Republicans that out to further distrust voting methods. And what little voting safeguards they’ve introduced since then will do very little to change that, unfortunately because even they don’t want to dismiss the possibility that, yes, their voting security may backfire and cost them more votes. Which is why registering and confirming voters only takes a name and address on an official document. It’s a softball for their constituents but gives them something to at least possibly backpedal on this idea of widespread voter fraud.

But to my point, which remains, if we do the same thing that lefties do, then we lose our chance to condemn them. Even it is to downplay January 6th.

And while it can be said that lefties rioting also loses their ability to condemn us, both groups are setting dangerous precedents if the only defense to rioting is… “well, at least we didn’t kill any body.”
1 up, 11mo,
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Yes, it happened many times before Jan 6.
2 ups, 11mo
Name one.
0 ups, 11mo,
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I would be surprised if you could point to a single plank in the MAGA platform with which you disagree.

A relative handful of extremists are not in the least representative of any movement. Is Antifa representative of Democrats?
1 up, 11mo
Bingo!

As I said before, Maga wouldn’t even be as big an issue if Jan 6th hadn’t ended the way it did.

My primary issue before was Donald Trump himself. Whose platform unfortunately is mostly, “elect me, I can do it better. I would do something different. No body else can do it but me.”

Then turns around and let’s the very elitist and evangelical Republicans do their worst. Screw over veterans, screw over decades of work on immigration and women’s health for cheap political points.

As I said before, sometimes Maga gets it right. Astonishingly! But I can maybe count on one hand the times they did. And not use all five fingers.

The problem with the movement is it

1. Attracts far more extremists than Democrats which loses Republicans the moderates. Extremists that Trump helped elected and solicited political advice.

2. It’s endgame to plow through all the goals to dismantle the ACA and RvW without putting anything in place leaves us open to a federal mandate and allowed a Democrat President to restore some of what made the ACA a piece of shit. Instead of just neutralizing the ACA completely and making sure all states fell in line that there must be medical exceptions to some abortion. If there aren’t, the majority will turn against pro-lifers and vote Democrat. It was dumb to leave that opening. Now a federal mandate is coming.

3. This over reliance on Donald Trump. Trump, like every President before him, and after, cares zero about you and me. Zero. Falling for his political bullshit is exactly the same criticisms we had for people who liked Obama unquestioningly. That doesn’t make us right to do the same. That just makes us stupid. And while I would’ve understood support for Trump in 2016, because at least then my only criticism was, “well, we don’t know what he’ll be like.” Was far better than the option in 2020 and 2024. We know what he’ll be like. We know he is ineffective, yet still entertaining, and that he makes the majority nervous but that’s about it.

His economy? Tanked first sign of a crisis. His platform? Too ambiguous. His results? Leave much to be desired and crumbled too swiftly under Biden.

We need a longer lasting option that isn’t too divisive that the opposition will simply reverse in four years time, or eight years time.

We need to stop fighting each other and work together. Stop hating each other and listening to one another. Only then can we make the right choice.
0 ups, 11mo,
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It was a mostly peaceful protest, evidence of which, the government has been hiding since they participated
1 up, 11mo,
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Most riots start as peaceful protests. Not all peaceful protests end up as riots.

Both are the result of a gathering of people and as much as we would like to have a genuinely good time, no matter the reason, there are always some mothertruckers trying to ruin it for everyone.

Even if they agree with us politically.

Everyone knows there were peaceful protestors caught in the crossfire on Jan 6.

That happened a lot in 2020.

The media pointing to the individuals who messed it up may do more good for your cause, than detract.

Unless you want more peaceful protests to end up as riots.
0 ups, 11mo,
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"Most riots start as peaceful protests."

I disagree

I would agree that most rioting by the right starts out peaceful (jan 6)

Most rioting by the left starts out as deliberate destruction of public resources (BLM riots, tearing down statues, defunding police etc). The near to far left and the far left have little to no respect for the law or the rights and property of anyone who disagrees with them, so far.
1 up, 11mo,
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There were plenty of BLM peaceful protests that were sabotaged by delinquents. Both for and against them.

You would think the disaster that was January 6th would at least make you reconsider that perhaps not all the rioting was intentional.

But you seem to believe the opposition to be more violent. It’s integral to your entire argument. Tell me. If they’re so violent as you believe them to be, where does that lead?

Surely the right won’t remain peaceful.

And when the right begins doing all the same things the left is, what will be the difference?

I’ll tell you.

Nothing.
0 ups, 11mo
Grow up?
What a childish thing to say.
0 ups, 11mo,
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There were plenty of BLM peaceful protests that were sabotaged by delinquents

The J6 protest was sabotaged by the deep state and the FBI
1 up, 11mo
You’re going to be very unhappy for the next four years.

And I pray that it gets no worse for you then that.

Grow up.
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