The 3 R's Have Nothing To Do With “Lawn Boy, Gender Queer, or Flamer.”

Octavia, if you had a child, would you want him or her to read this book? As a parent of two & grandmother of five, I have a stake in the outcome of young lives. I want them to be exposed to education that is not an 'agenda' to transform sexuality and norms in this country.

ANYONE who has raised a child knows how vulnerable they are to suggestion and imagination. The Left exploits the vulnerabilities of children while encouraging homosexuality and transsexuality. Look at some of the teachers espousing this obvious leftist agenda. Those are the role models of today's children.

Heterosexuality got us all here in the first place. Men and women working together to provide and care for their children. Wholesome standards, marriage, family, ethics, hard work, and love of country would be worthy of teaching young children. The push today is clearly not in this direction in education (note: there are others outside of heterosexuals who exemplify good values).

One should never confuse a child by imposing an age inappropriate curriculum. It is hard enough to grow up...why add identity politics to make it even more difficult? Children FIRST....they are not to be used as pawns in the game of life.
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Gender Queer From Wikipedia:
It recounts Kobabe's journey from adolescence to adulthood and the author's exploration of gender identity and sexuality, ultimately identifying as being outside of the gender binary.

Curious how you would react if one of your grand kids ever come out as gay?

I will always love our grandkids. Being gay doesn't change one's love for a child (or an adult).

And what if I told you that reading Nazi propaganda doesn’t make you a Nazi? That reading Socialist propaganda doesn’t make you a Socialist. That reading Democrat propaganda… reading Republican propaganda… reading propaganda doesn’t turn you into a thing.

Propaganda only works when there is a funneling of information, such as burning (or banning) books. Minimizing search results through algorithmic preference.

Like it or not your children and grandchildren do not live in a non-internet age and will likely be exposed to sexual garbage. There are ways to minimize this impact. Limit time they send online, don’t give them their own phone until at least Middle-school.

When I was growing up, we started talking about sex and rather foul things as early as 6 or 8. And we went to church. Sunday school. We called wimpy kids f*gs!

And that’s the reality of the situation. What’s a kid going through that suppose to do? Ideally they’d turn to God and their family for support.

Except you’ve built a barricade around trans and gay people and any deviation from the norm is deemed, well, deviant behavior.

Do you really think your child or grandchild will expect you to love them as they are? With the way you go on about all this stuff prior to them perhaps realizing this?

If you want to solve the issue then stop turning to the government to solve your social problems.

Take the personal responsibility and deal with it yourself.

"There is no "stack of porn" in that picture"

A quick passage from the book, "Flamer:"

"We're each busting a load in this bottle. If you don't cum, you have to drink it,"

Another passage from the book:

"I learned about masturbation two years ago, kind of by accident. No one ever told me what it was," (the main character, who happens to be a child) narrates.

Don't tell me, or anyone else, that isn't porn.

Bullshit

So you don’t think it’s possible that a kid reading those passages above could be aroused?

So, unless you are the author, you do not have proof that it wasn’t written to arouse some kid, just your opinion that it wasn’t, which means it is possible that it is porn

And you still haven’t proven it’s not

Your opinion

Of course it’s possible, but only the author knows for sure his intention. Since sex sells, it’s always a good idea to create an illusion without being specific. That is what the romance novel industry is based on, soft porn is still porn

In your mind, maybe, but otherwise, no

Um, that bottle bit is a tad bit rather sexually graphic.
"masturbation" - spoken by a child character, not difficult to see why that would be considered inapprpriate, for any age, including an adult, to read.

Bullshit

No, really. The books are "All Boys Aren't Blue," "Gender Queer," "Flamer," "Lawn Boy" and "The Perks of Being a Wallflower."

Explain how those are porn.

Do you even know porn when you read it

I’ll read it…right after I finish reading every books ever written that actually appeal to me, so just hang around for a few decades

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that it’s a waste of a good tree

Also.... it looks like it was a different person but what they said about it being a "waste of a good tree" is a different argument than saying it's pornography.... They're shifting the goal posts.

I've seen porn before, and I've seen those books. It's porn.

Please provide the passages that support in detail your opinion.

You know...like you demand others do.

One must wonder why you do not...seems hypocritical to me.

I didn't include because it's a lot! Man, it's almost like you've never paid attention to your own holy text.

Incest: Genesis 4 Genesis 20:12, Exodus 6:20, 2 Samuel 13 - this one will come up again in the rape section. All of Noah's children, grand children, great grand children, etc.

So! Much! Murder!: Deuteronomy 17:12 Exodus 22:17 Leviticus 20:13 Leviticus 20:27 Exodus 21:15 (Leviticus 20:9 Leviticus 21:9 Exodus 22:19 2 Chronicles 15:12-13 2 Chronicles 15:12-13 Deuteronomy 13:13-19 Deuteronomy 22:20-21 Deuteronomy 13:7-12 Deuteronomy 17:2-5 (Leviticus 24:10-16 Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT Deuteronomy 18:20-22 Romans 1:24-32 Numbers 1:48-51, 2 Kings 2:23-24 Isaiah 14:21 Ezekiel 9:5-7 Exodus 12:29-30 Jeremiah 51:20-26 Leviticus 26:21-22 Judges 15:14-15 Acts 5:1-11

You know, for a religion that says "Thou shalt not kill" God does order a lot of killing. There's more in the mass murder and genocide sections later on.

Sexual Assault: Genesis 16 Judges 21:10-24 Numbers 31:7-18 2 Samuel 13 Deuteronomy 20:10-14 Deuteronomy 22:28-29 Deuteronomy 22:23-24 2 Samuel 12:11-14 Deuteronomy 21:10-14 Judges 5:30 Judges 5:30 (this is in the mass murder section too)

Genocide: Judges 20:48 Numbers 25:1-9 Jeremiah 50:21-22 NLT

Condoning slavery: Leviticus 25:44-46 Exodus 21:2-6 Exodus 21:7-11 (this is also in the women as property) Exodus 21:20-21 Ephesians 6:5 1 Timothy 6:1-2 Luke 12:47-48

Women as Property: take all the slavery ones, and add these: Genesis 16 Deuteronomy 22:20-21 Deuteronomy 22:28-29 Judges 5:30

Mass Murder (more murder than 1 or 2 but less than a genocide): Exodus 12:29-30 (passover, it's a classic for a reason!) Jeremiah 48:10 Joshua 19:47 Jeremiah 15:1-4 Ezekiel 35:7-9 Joshua 8:1-29 (this is where God told Joshua to go kill everyone living in the land he'd just promised them). Then Jericho. You know, when they level the town and kill everyone in it: Joshua 6:20-21. Joshua 7:19-26 Did you know God had a wife? Yeah, he did. Her name was Asherah. Here he orders everyone to kill her priests and followers. 1 Kings 14:9-16.

That is not you explaining in detail how this book is pornographic.

If you are unable to do so, okay.

Simply refrain from disparaging others and holding others to a greater standard than that which is acceptable for yourself.

Do you wish to try again to support your argument or have you spent yourself googling your list of key words and typing all those citations for the passages, chapter and verse(s)?

You could have just as easily googled the pornographic sexual content of the books you are defending, even demanding, being made available to children.

I think you already know the sexually graphic depictions and descriptions the books contain.

The reason I prefer hearing someone's own words of explanation is to first determine if you actually have independent thought or are you just regurgitating leftist talking points.

Secondly, if I read something on my own I know my interpretation of what I read but I still don't know your interpretation.

Finally, a single typed out example is sufficient to further the debate.

That shouldn't be too much effort considering all the keystrokes required for your inclusion of several snide remarks.

Start with anything that is a sexually explicit description.

Again, just a chapter and verse number.

Type it out for all to see.

You haven't established my "very okay[ness]" with children reading the bible.

I simply asked you to provide "evidence" from your "source" that demonstrates explicit sexual description.

As yet, you have not.

What's the matter? You don't like direct citation? You need the quote too?

Genesis 19:30-36

Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave. 31 One day the older daughter said to the younger, “Our father is old, and there is no man around here to give us children—as is the custom all over the earth. 32 Let’s get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family line through our father.”

33 That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.

34 The next day the older daughter said to the younger, “Last night I slept with my father. Let’s get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father.” 35 So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.

36 So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father. After getting him drunk and raping him. With incest.

Did I not make that clear the three times I said "type it out"?

Four (4) things:

1) You purposely waited until I could not respond directly to your reply before typing it out in order to confuse the flow of the discussion.

2) That is not an explicit description of a sexual act.

3) You constructed your reply to make it appear that the last two lines of verse 36 are part of the passage, which they are not.

4) Bibles have been removed from the same school libraries as the homoerotic genre books that DO contain explicit descriptions and depictions of sexual acts.

1) I don't know your schedule, nor do I care.

2) Not graphic enough for you? That's weird, but okay. Let's try: Genesis 38:8-10.

Then Judah said to Onan, “Sleep with your brother’s wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to raise up offspring for your brother.” 9 But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother. 10 What he did was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so the Lord put him to death also.

What do we have here? We've got treating women like property. The sexual assault is unknown... so maybe? But God kills him for pulling out.

Kinda rough catching a death sentence for not getting a woman pregnant.

If you think that's not graphic enough, I got another one for you.

3) yeah. I should have hit enter. But that still doesn't change the incest or the sexual assault.

4) And? Roll back up to the beginning. I never said anything about the bible containing graphic sex. I asked if vbachman supported people using the bible, whih contained murder, rape, genocide, etc. YOU asked for sexual content.

Define explicit.

"Oh, wait, do you mean like these?"

Oh wow, yeah, I've come across some (much?) of this stuff here and there over the years, but Asherah is news to me. Thanks for the info.

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Better from the source:

https://youtu.be/5jx5EHXr6Hg?si=DKZqfR1s3wVPlRYI

Thanks, lots of good stuff.

You bet! Dan straight wrecks fools. It's great.

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And an entire city is destroyed in righteous retribution.

The moral of the story is that rape is bad.

I think any of these books should not be a part of education, whether religious, LGBTQ, or anything else. Education should not be political